One trick I've learned thats actually pretty cool involves Goku black's 2S. His 2S can not go into an airdash but it does have the same animation as jS. So sometimes I'll condition someone using 2s and then I'll do 5LL into jS and hit them with a jL, jM, or jH. It doesn't always work and they'd have to block low but it definitely catches people when they're not really expecting it, it also helps if you put an assist behind it. But it's also useful because if you notice they're able to react to the 2S, you can bait them with the jS and if you manage to do that, then you can use 2S and it's sort of a mind game. Not the best ever but just something I've picked up to have a little fun
@@daniloka42 Yeah I've done it once or twice but depending on how you space it, it's really hard to get a crossup. Since you can't jS out of anything other than 5L, you have to make sure that you're close enough to actually do the crossup and GB's 5L reaches pretty far. But it's definitely a good way to get into your opponents head, lmk if you find a better way to cross up out of the jS!
"I teach people how to stop mashing". You certainly managed just that, friend. Thanks to your amazing guides, I can say I have become a better player who enjoys the game a lot more. AND I finally got into frame data as well. Thank you so much for all your work dude. It is greatly appreciated. 👍
Thanks so much for doing these guides. you're the most in depth and visually easy guide creator to watch. Looking forward to all of your character guides so I can get my mains
That block string flow chart is so helpful, I wish someone made that but for the entire characters move set to help build combos. Oh well a man can dream
i know picking up this game 5 years later is a death sentence outside of playing with the homies, but this is such a helpful video nonetheless. Goku Black is one of my favorite DB characters ever and i feel like this video is really helping me connect with the game in general. I'm just hoping to become competent in time for the rollback update and next possible iteration of DBFZ. Thank you TinyTorgue
For me my issue is playing with him sucking at mix and his moves being meh for so long that my brain is wired to just not use certain moves or combo routes without realizing that most of the moves I tried not to use are now super good. My Muscle memory actively fights me as I play Rose but due to playing Baseku and his weaker version for such a long time I actually have a really good Neutral game now.
Training combos are quite good, and help you get a grasp of how a character can link certain moves into others. I’d recommend anyone new to this character to just do combo challenge, and see what is possible. None of the combos require assists, either.
I think it’s safe to say that it only makes sense for Tinytorgue to cover the “other half” of the equation. 😏 This day marks the beginning of a new chapter of the universe! The name of the one to author that chapter is Zamasu, the bringer of eternal order!
Goku Black with Wesker's theme fits perfectly, I mean both of them have a lot of similarities, to begin with they're both dark entities (or to make it simple they're edgelords)
@@josukehigashikata860 Synergy is how the characters cooperate in a team, for example:Tohan and baseku have good synergy since Tohan can combo his level one into spirit bomb
I found a TOD using the assist combo 2 example. 2 bar starter, does need spark. I did it pre sparked, don't know how you would spark mid combo so fyi. And the only thing you need to do is 2S>5L5H5S>236S>SD. That is the only addition. After the 214s just level 1, level 1, level 3
Could you possibly make a SSJ Vegeta guide? Even though he’s standard, there’s not that many videos of him. It would be very helpful for newer players 🙏🙏
7:39 Wanna ask, frametraps can beat mashing right? But in general, what examples of loophole in a blockstring can blocking players look for where they can counter through mashing? I.e what are the scenarios in FighterZ where players are incentivized to mash/normal attack?
Mashing includes mashing any button, jumping constantly and trying to counter. Theres scenarios where mashing is the right answer, like to not get grabbed or to take your turn back when they try to reset pressure or in just in general to punish sloppy/loose mix
@@TinyTorgue i think mashing reflect is better to punish a loose mix. what if they leave like 1 frame gap and you mash there? i see loose mixes like stagger pressure, you really dont wanna mash on them.
12:14 whenever I try to do 5L whiff into 214L I just get 5LL, and if I try to manually delay it I get 2H'd. Any tips or tricks for getting that to work?
You have to wait for 5L to fully recover and immediately 214L, buffering or mashing wont do the trick. You have to time it properly. Its a little tricky initially
@@aacid5580 2L is slower than 5L, the point of whiffing 5L is that as long as you buffer your inputs right it'll hit frame 1. 2L won't guarantee you a meaty
Immediately after the jump cancel you gotta hold back. It's a bit tricky to get used to, if you like you can also do regular jump cancel into Light and only then start holding back for the second Light. Same thing
I did not know the divekicks gave another jump and SD, super useful to know! Thanks for the guide, now I can play better and justify my Grand Preist rank with Black Zamasu and Tien
The 5L is only there to framekill and auto-time the setup, if you do it too fast though you will get 4LL. As long as you set the dummy to Vanish or 2H on recovery and you counterhit them out of it you've done it correctly.
Can anyone help I’m trying to do the IT mix and for some reason no matter how hard I try I keep getting 2Hd I’m using 21(A). I found that it works on taller character (while their crouching) but for some reason normal height just isn’t working. Any tips?
So im trying to do the 214X float. I cant get it to float to the other side like you do in the video, is there a reason why??? And for the 5L whiff oki. I get reflected every time I do the 214X into jh
Once you use his ex teleport hold up. Literally as he’s teleporting hold up then while holding up hold left or right depending on what side you want him.
Make sure the enemy is crouching to be able to float over them. Reflect is an option they can use against the 214L oki, in that case you will have to bait it instead. Go for a dragon rush or the spark bait 214M into j214M might also work as a reflect bait
I swear for the corner bnb 2 no matter how low I land with the delayed JS I can't get the 2M to hit before he recovers. Is there something I'm missing?
I'm new to FighterZ and the team I want to go with is Black(A)Point/DBS Broly(B)Mid/SSJ Vegeta(A)Anchor. Although, I am kind of undecided on SS Vegeta and Bluegeta. How does it sound? Any feedback appreciated
@Volt nono I mean ssj vegeta would be better at the begining lower ranks bc no one knows how to deal with a DP at first I wasnt talking of him been on point sorry for my bad english 😅
@@gard8053 in general i think blue Vegeta it's better bc of the level 5, grabs and the way he can use his level 1 as a form to extend his combos rather than just use it as a normal lvl 1 and has better mix than ssj Vegeta
“Nobody mains this character”
Axeice: “Am I a joke to you?”
i forgor 💀
@@TinyTorgue just for this comment ain't getting a like
Didn’t axe drop this game
@@naitsirc481 obviously you don’t pay attention, he doesn’t stream that much
@@naitsirc481 nope he’s streaming rn
One trick I've learned thats actually pretty cool involves Goku black's 2S. His 2S can not go into an airdash but it does have the same animation as jS. So sometimes I'll condition someone using 2s and then I'll do 5LL into jS and hit them with a jL, jM, or jH. It doesn't always work and they'd have to block low but it definitely catches people when they're not really expecting it, it also helps if you put an assist behind it. But it's also useful because if you notice they're able to react to the 2S, you can bait them with the jS and if you manage to do that, then you can use 2S and it's sort of a mind game. Not the best ever but just something I've picked up to have a little fun
Maybe crossup with j.S and Air Dash?
@@daniloka42 Yeah I've done it once or twice but depending on how you space it, it's really hard to get a crossup. Since you can't jS out of anything other than 5L, you have to make sure that you're close enough to actually do the crossup and GB's 5L reaches pretty far. But it's definitely a good way to get into your opponents head, lmk if you find a better way to cross up out of the jS!
Sensei Torgue making every character look smooth with these guides, let's go
Now I can rest in peace.
And i comment to slow now
@@bardockvegetable6377 but you grow at least
Wow the editing, humour, and just overall quality of these videos is insane. Major respect for you and the effort you put into your videos!
I was not expecting the Isaac OST at the end, but damn does it fit well with Black's TOD
"I teach people how to stop mashing".
You certainly managed just that, friend. Thanks to your amazing guides, I can say I have become a better player who enjoys the game a lot more. AND I finally got into frame data as well. Thank you so much for all your work dude. It is greatly appreciated. 👍
Thanks so much for doing these guides. you're the most in depth and visually easy guide creator to watch. Looking forward to all of your character guides so I can get my mains
That transition between the future and the present was smooth
That block string flow chart is so helpful, I wish someone made that but for the entire characters move set to help build combos. Oh well a man can dream
You just can't make those for combos, there is no way it would make any sense
@@TinyTorgue I guess maybe like only specifically special moves like telling u what moves can confirm into a super dash, vanish, etc
i know picking up this game 5 years later is a death sentence outside of playing with the homies, but this is such a helpful video nonetheless. Goku Black is one of my favorite DB characters ever and i feel like this video is really helping me connect with the game in general. I'm just hoping to become competent in time for the rollback update and next possible iteration of DBFZ. Thank you TinyTorgue
Been waiting for this! I’ve had mr dark Goku on my team for a while now but I’ve been struggling to open up people on block
For me my issue is playing with him sucking at mix and his moves being meh for so long that my brain is wired to just not use certain moves or combo routes without realizing that most of the moves I tried not to use are now super good. My Muscle memory actively fights me as I play Rose but due to playing Baseku and his weaker version for such a long time I actually have a really good Neutral game now.
Training combos are quite good, and help you get a grasp of how a character can link certain moves into others. I’d recommend anyone new to this character to just do combo challenge, and see what is possible. None of the combos require assists, either.
Amazing video! The Rosé clan is definitely on the rise. Thank you so much for the S/O🤩
You deserve more credit bro you're the best channel to really get good at the game.
@@wildrussiansnake8978 ong
Ayyyyy novazayn getting some recognition! You love to see it
It's everything I ever wanted. Excellent work👌
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Editing leveled up🔥🔥🔥
I think it’s safe to say that it only makes sense for Tinytorgue to cover the “other half” of the equation. 😏
This day marks the beginning of a new chapter of the universe! The name of the one to author that chapter is Zamasu, the bringer of eternal order!
Been waiting for this one😎
Finally, I can be semi-good at the game, thank you
Welp, time to get back on fighterz and use team “pink/purple is manly” using black, baby and janemba
That use of Janemba portal was creative asf not gonna lie
I think about starting off with this character and this definitely would help me understand his style so thanks for that.
nice guide as always and i really love your music decision.its really good.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THE DAY HAS COME
If only I could remeber all of this while I was playing
Amazing video !
Lets go, finna sharpen my main :)
Really good stuff my dude
hot damn it feels like these are coming out crazy fast atm
Goku Black with Wesker's theme fits perfectly, I mean both of them have a lot of similarities, to begin with they're both dark entities (or to make it simple they're edgelords)
Amazing vid I’m picking him up again ... I was doubting him because all the other powerhouse characters but I just like him too much
great guide. massive thanks 👍
Best guides on yt for sure 🔥🔥. Piccolo guide needa come out tho 😂🤝
You should do a synergy section just sayin
what is synergy? sorry im new
@@josukehigashikata860 Synergy is how the characters cooperate in a team, for example:Tohan and baseku have good synergy since Tohan can combo his level one into spirit bomb
@@gatosurfista4947 ohhhh ok thanks!
Cooler guide
Finally!
The wesker theme is so fitting
J.5S after 214H is so saucy
bro this gotta be the best tutorial to ever exist
Magnificent guide.
this video better be godly
He did it boys!
Hey bro love the guide,
Quick question, does the vanish extension in 15:10 only work on large characters ??
Nope, that should be universal
@@TinyTorgue ok sweet bro ❤️👍🏻, I think I have to fit the j before my 214L
I found a TOD using the assist combo 2 example. 2 bar starter, does need spark. I did it pre sparked, don't know how you would spark mid combo so fyi. And the only thing you need to do is 2S>5L5H5S>236S>SD. That is the only addition. After the 214s just level 1, level 1, level 3
LETS GOO!!!
1:04 jutsu bola de fuego
yo that message at 5:58 😂😂 im dead
Idk if Goku black has enough stuff in the latest patch to warrant another guide but I think I’d like to see some uses for 214 M
Thank u :D
Could you possibly make a SSJ Vegeta guide? Even though he’s standard, there’s not that many videos of him. It would be very helpful for newer players 🙏🙏
5:59 I can appreciate that
i require a nappa guide
hyped
i was literally just looking for this last night what. same thing happened with the broly video LOOL
“nobody mains this character”
i too grow closer and closer to not maining him anymore.. great guide tho!
Nice
*cough* Still waiting on that Piccolo guide. *cough* *cough
As a piccolo main, same
Yo dose this dude stream ?
Am I the only one expecting a Monty Python reference at Holy Light Grenade section?
Yo what happened to your adult gohan video, I really liked that one😔🥔
Copyright claimed and unavailable almost everywhere, dont worry though ive got something coming
@@TinyTorgue I'll be waiting, yessir 😈🥔
@@samoansilverback411 Me too, I was just searching for that video
7:39 Wanna ask, frametraps can beat mashing right? But in general, what examples of loophole in a blockstring can blocking players look for where they can counter through mashing? I.e what are the scenarios in FighterZ where players are incentivized to mash/normal attack?
Mashing includes mashing any button, jumping constantly and trying to counter. Theres scenarios where mashing is the right answer, like to not get grabbed or to take your turn back when they try to reset pressure or in just in general to punish sloppy/loose mix
@@TinyTorgue Ooh got it thanks! 🙏
@@TinyTorgue i think mashing reflect is better to punish a loose mix. what if they leave like 1 frame gap and you mash there? i see loose mixes like stagger pressure, you really dont wanna mash on them.
thanks for Yakuza music again, Chaps
Now I’m waiting on Android 18 combos
Where can I find this instrumental for the beginning. Epic
Subarashii!
I'mma need that ginyu guide cuh
Now we need zamasu
0:22 did trunks say we will die Got it
Frieza next PLEASE 😭
6:30 Can the community please decide on a common name for this technique? I've seen like 3 different names for it.
That's literally it, god slicer dance
God Slicer is also the special move, both share the first part but the super has also dance in it.
12:14 whenever I try to do 5L whiff into 214L I just get 5LL, and if I try to manually delay it I get 2H'd. Any tips or tricks for getting that to work?
You have to wait for 5L to fully recover and immediately 214L, buffering or mashing wont do the trick. You have to time it properly. Its a little tricky initially
I found that its easier to 2L then 214L if that helps at all?
@@aacid5580 2L is slower than 5L, the point of whiffing 5L is that as long as you buffer your inputs right it'll hit frame 1. 2L won't guarantee you a meaty
@@TinyTorgue oh ok, thanks for the advice
Bubble gum flavoured kamehameha ☠️
Yo, on everything, I'd sign up on patreon if you drop a Super Baby guide next
Super Baby has gone almost entirely unchanged, the Season 3 guide is still very up to date. that said ill still update it with the stats sheer and all
These combos still work today?
Does anyone know how to do the jc4LLM2H of the last TOD? It seems different than just jump cancelling to the left.
Immediately after the jump cancel you gotta hold back. It's a bit tricky to get used to, if you like you can also do regular jump cancel into Light and only then start holding back for the second Light. Same thing
@@TinyTorgue Ooh, all right! Thanks for the quick reply, means a lot!
I did not know the divekicks gave another jump and SD, super useful to know! Thanks for the guide, now I can play better and justify my Grand Preist rank with Black Zamasu and Tien
Whenever i do the oki, 2LL always comes out instead of the teleport, unless i delay it but the enemy is already teched at that point
The 5L is only there to framekill and auto-time the setup, if you do it too fast though you will get 4LL. As long as you set the dummy to Vanish or 2H on recovery and you counterhit them out of it you've done it correctly.
Can anyone help I’m trying to do the IT mix and for some reason no matter how hard I try I keep getting 2Hd I’m using 21(A). I found that it works on taller character (while their crouching) but for some reason normal height just isn’t working. Any tips?
its pretty tight with 21 A, its got about 30f of blockstun so you will have to call it really late
I know we shit on Tien for being about as plain as white rice but Goku Black is equally as sleep in my eyes- still a great review as always
He’s one of the coolest characters and has some of the sauciest and most badass looking moves, combos and supers etc you’re tripping
Please A-18 guide
Will u do gogeta and teen gohan?
So im trying to do the 214X float. I cant get it to float to the other side like you do in the video, is there a reason why??? And for the 5L whiff oki. I get reflected every time I do the 214X into jh
Once you use his ex teleport hold up. Literally as he’s teleporting hold up then while holding up hold left or right depending on what side you want him.
Make sure the enemy is crouching to be able to float over them. Reflect is an option they can use against the 214L oki, in that case you will have to bait it instead. Go for a dragon rush or the spark bait 214M into j214M might also work as a reflect bait
Whos next? I hope is ssj goku or cell
I swear for the corner bnb 2 no matter how low I land with the delayed JS I can't get the 2M to hit before he recovers. Is there something I'm missing?
Because it is not js, it is 2s
@@elbananitolokito No, it's JS. You can't do 2S while you're in the air.
Is the jab necessary for the meaty? Or can you just set it up with good timing?
You can manually time it too, the 5L is there to kill the perfect amount of time
@@TinyTorgue Thank you, good to know cuz I'm having trouble getting the input to register.
How do I link the 5m(after the jMS) on the limit break tod?
try delaying the jS a bunch
@@TinyTorgue ok I Will try, thanks!
Can u do Frieza or Base Vegeta soon
i wanna get into this game but it looks difficult is it worth it?
Its the easiest fighting game to get into of all time, absolutely go for it
@@TinyTorgue deffinatly not the easiest but it's deffinatly on the easier side.
get us them zamasu guide
Why are you running??? Just for that ima sub 😭😭
What about Cell remaster?
“No one mains this character” I BEG YOUR PARDON HE HAS BEEN MY MAIN SINCE THIS GAME’S RELEASE
I think people are talking about pros when they say that stuff
19:02
I'm new to FighterZ and the team I want to go with is Black(A)Point/DBS Broly(B)Mid/SSJ Vegeta(A)Anchor. Although, I am kind of undecided on SS Vegeta and Bluegeta.
How does it sound? Any feedback appreciated
I think ss Vegeta would be better at the begining bc of his DP and better assist
@Volt nono I mean ssj vegeta would be better at the begining lower ranks bc no one knows how to deal with a DP at first
I wasnt talking of him been on point sorry for my bad english 😅
@@Fabio-vo2er What about in general?
@@gard8053 in general i think blue Vegeta it's better bc of the level 5, grabs and the way he can use his level 1 as a form to extend his combos rather than just use it as a normal lvl 1 and has better mix than ssj Vegeta
@Volt what do you think of my team?
Kefla B Assist
Goku Black A Assist
Janemba A assist.
please zamasu guide bro! TuT
Can you do cooler season 4?
8:26