On the Wrist, from off the Cuff: Sinn - H-Link bracelet vs. Fine Link bracelet

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  • On this episode we compare and contrast Sinn's two top-notch bracelet choices. Which do you prefer and why? Let me know what you think in the comments below, thanks.
    Full 556A Review: • On the Wrist, from off...
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  • @bwcastillo
    @bwcastillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    For me, these 2 watches would make the perfect 2 piece collection.

  • @Remy84
    @Remy84 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello, for anyone watching in 2022, as of late (I believe late 2020 or 2021) the Sinn fine link bracelet has changed. They have now made the fine link bracelet slightly thicker and fitted it with the hex screws. I prefer the hex screws so it’s a nice update

    • @fark69
      @fark69 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the fine link is thicker then the watch wearing lighter gets a bit negated. With lack of micro adjustment, this pushes me towards getting the H Link bracelet. Thanks!

  • @1000lightyrs
    @1000lightyrs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bracelets, what bracelets? My eyes were glued to that mesmerising blue dial. I'm gonna buy one of these! I think it puts the blue dial Tudor BB to shame, esp. considering the price!

  • @PANICiii
    @PANICiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your reviews are some of the best, man. Loving it and thanks

  • @shipmate3577
    @shipmate3577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Would love to see the Sinn 556a vs the Sinn 104i

  • @gsgleason
    @gsgleason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just got the 556i, and I'm not thrilled with the H link bracelet. The clasp is large and has an extension. That I don't get. It's not a dive watch, and I'd rather they had put extra micro adjustment holes on the clasp, or had used a tool less adjustment system. As such, I'm between sizes. It's just a tad too snug on the tightest micro adjustment, but if I take out a link (-10mm) and move two spaces to the largest micro adjustment (+6mm), it's a 4mm difference, and it's just a bit too loose. An extra micro adjustment hole would have been perfect for me. Honestly, if a manufacturer is going to have 10mm links and 3mm micro adjustments, they should have at least 4 micro adjustment positions. Half links would be an easy solution as well.
    I'm going to make a cultural stereotype here, but I feel like Germans make things just a little differently and unnecessarily complex, just because. The bracelet uses hex screws that go in on each side, one with female threads and one with male threads. This requires two hex keys to remove links, and it's a little cumbersome. It reminds me of all the oddities I encountered helping work on my friend's Audi and VW cars.

  • @NickShabazz
    @NickShabazz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Sinn needs to get on the adjustable clasp train, but their bracelets are very nice.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nick Shabazz thanks for watching Nick!

    • @paulx7620
      @paulx7620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey I thought I told you "do not get into watches!" 😁

  • @simonwood5587
    @simonwood5587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got the blue dial on the fine link bracelet. Bracelet is really nice but lack of micro adjustment makes it a gamble to get a perfect fit. Mine wears slightly to tight which won over being sloppily loose. They need to improve the design with either half links or micro adjustment option ....

  • @carlobighouse5434
    @carlobighouse5434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very needed comparison - thanks bro. Love your vids

  • @simonleonp
    @simonleonp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the Breitling style is just gorgeous. good review, keep it up!

  • @MrBacchus18
    @MrBacchus18 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Leaning toward the 556a the 3-6-9-12 numerals are iconic to watch nerds. I do love the inky black of the 556i too though. As far as the bracelets H Link all the way, I don't really like butterfly bracelets, can't go too far wrong with either imo. Thanks for the comparison video it sure is nice to see them next to each other.

  • @goaztecs7549
    @goaztecs7549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just checked the 556IB on eBay. Looks like I'll be brown bagging it to work for while. Thanks for another great review!

  • @boncesca2590
    @boncesca2590 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there, I enjoyed the video, but there was one element that you didn't cover; micro-adjustments. The H-link has (3 I think) micro-adjustments on the clasp, what about the 5-link? Does it use half links?
    I ask as I like a snug, not too tight and not too loose fit on the wrist. Thanks!

  • @michaels.9764
    @michaels.9764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you know the weight of both the fine link and the H-Link? I'd like a 556A on the fine link but worry about the weight compared to a strap.

  • @GROADAPPLE
    @GROADAPPLE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see a state of the collection review.

  • @shawn1928
    @shawn1928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly the review I was looking for!

  • @FatSamEIE
    @FatSamEIE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Marinemaster and a speedy pro so think I prefer the IB on fine link as it would add more to what I have (two tool watches) at a decent price. I love blue dials and the option to have a Japanese, Swiss and German watch is cool too
    You just sold me on the Sinn!

  • @brucecameron7172
    @brucecameron7172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man, great presentation

  • @desmondoreilly1210
    @desmondoreilly1210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a really useful review. I want to get one of these 556's, but keep changing my mind on the variant. Presently I'm favouring the blue dial with H link bracelet. I think the blue dial is really striking, as are the hands and applied indices. I think the two black dials appear flatter because of the painted indices and numerals. I want something with a minimalist design language, utilitarian but also eye catching. Can you confirm that the H link articulation is good?

  • @jimscopa8685
    @jimscopa8685 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like both of these, but can’t imagine my 556i B on anything but the 5 link. So get why you got both. I see a 556a with H link in my future!

  • @Masterpiece4590
    @Masterpiece4590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am strongly considering buying the 556i B on the finelink bracelet.

  • @TaswcmT
    @TaswcmT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great demonstration of the differences - I wasn't aware the Fine Link bracelet was thinner/lighter. A Sinn 556 I is on my To-Do list (a bit further down the road).

  • @situation_zero
    @situation_zero 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review. I just experienced my first H-link bracelet when I was able to buy one of the latest batch of Armida's A12 "62 MAS" homage. Great vintage style piece. You should seek one out. Cheers.

  • @spolandeer
    @spolandeer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it true that the blue dial looks purple in certain lights?

  • @brentl.vaneaton6901
    @brentl.vaneaton6901 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having both is really nice. I love blue dials but the 556a hands are a bit sharper especially the second hand...enjoy!

  • @osiris5315
    @osiris5315 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the video I was looking for! Want to buy one but I like both bracelets and do not know which one to choose….

  • @denniskwok7613
    @denniskwok7613 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The older style original H-link bracelet had links which were the same thickness as the current Fine Link model, as they used single slotted screws (like the current Fine Link model) and were a pain in the arse, as you could mash up the heads really easily if you didn't use good technique and decent screwdrivers.
    When Sinn made the switch to hex screws on the H-link bracelet, they made the links much thicker to accommodate them. Giving it a more substantial feel and look in the process.
    My Sinn 356 came with the older, thinner H-Link bracelet and I also use it on my 556i. I find it gives a tool watch vibe, but retains a sense of refinement that the newer, thicker H-Link bracelet lacks, as it highlights the slim case of the 556.

    • @tobacco118
      @tobacco118 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The older style H-link isn't satin finished, like the current one with hex screw. Right?

    • @alastairwright7942
      @alastairwright7942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tobacco118 no, they just end up like that after years of use.

  • @lamaludwig1470
    @lamaludwig1470 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the 556i with the H-Link bracelet and love it. Can only recommend it!

  • @marczekowski753
    @marczekowski753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the excellent video. I think that watch bands and bracelets sometimes take a unnecessary back seat to the watch.

  • @boristhebladej8055
    @boristhebladej8055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there!
    Did five links fit on model 656?

  • @Masterpiece4590
    @Masterpiece4590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your review

  • @Smeaky
    @Smeaky ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if the HLINK 104 works on the 556?

  • @TheTimLara
    @TheTimLara 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can definitely understand how you ended up with both. Really hard to choose. I still lean toward the classic A version, though. I feel like the legibility is unbeatable and since I'm a t-shirt and jeans kinda guy, I prefer the less refined aesthetic. On my short list once I get the PayPal funds built up.

  • @johnholkham2420
    @johnholkham2420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can you confirm the fine link bracelet have different size // length removable links to add sizing , it looks to be the case in pictures. Also very subjective how blue is the dial, ie navy or royal blue in daylight. Hoping to buy

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      All of the links are the same size on the fine link, there aren't any half links

  • @ScottNotAvailable
    @ScottNotAvailable ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your wrist size please? Also mannnnnn wish you threw one of these on some sailcloth and a rubber strap too!

  • @consumerthis3169
    @consumerthis3169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    iF the numbers and imbs were applied and the safety clasp was easier to unbuckle, would be a perf watch

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how they changed out the hands on the 556IB to be silver rather than black

  • @theenugyt
    @theenugyt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had my eye on the 556i for around 2 years and finally decided to get it for my birthday. But then I debated for weeks between the 556i and 556i-b as I’m a sucker for blue and no date window. But in the end, the draw of the H link with that gloss black dial and super white indices & hands won me over. I absolutely love my 556i as I think it’s the more iconic Sinn. I would love to handle the 556i-b one day to see it up close and personal. It looks to be a very lovely piece but I think I really wanted a tool watch.
    I’m very tempted by the 856i-b as it’s a 40 mm matte navy blue dial which is my favorite color. But I don’t like the date window at the 4 and it doesn’t say Automatik. If they made an 856i-b with those changes, then it would be the perfect Sinn watch ever for me.

  • @user-vx7dk4ug5f
    @user-vx7dk4ug5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is your wrist size?

  • @dakar1977
    @dakar1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful watches, but 556i H-link is perfect for me!!

  • @shawn1928
    @shawn1928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now...how to decide between the 556 and 104. Decisions, decisions

  • @bnick25352535
    @bnick25352535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My worry is sending my watch for servicing to Germany any thoughts.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you purchase through WatchBuys you can have serviced under warranty via RGM here in the US.

    • @bnick25352535
      @bnick25352535 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Average Bros thnx for reply love your videos

    • @denniskwok7613
      @denniskwok7613 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sinn use off the shelf ETA and Sellita movements in the majority of their watches. So they can be serviced by most decent watchmakers.

    • @FatSamEIE
      @FatSamEIE 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any watch maker or services should be able to work on an eta2824- it’s probably the most common movement in use today

  • @dylanmichael3985
    @dylanmichael3985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he say "Bret-ling"... Smh. Im very glad this video exists though, thank you.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't do accented pronunciations, lol

  • @MrMarr4347
    @MrMarr4347 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've just bought the 556ib on the H-link, and I'm really glad that I did so. I think that the fine link dresses it up too much and makes it look a bit big for a 38.5

  • @Billeh556
    @Billeh556 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh...no links in description lol

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice catch! Links added, thanks.

  • @ihategoogle5910
    @ihategoogle5910 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    are those brushed?

  • @drichardbailey
    @drichardbailey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't realize the hands were so much different on the "i" models.

    • @jakob8304
      @jakob8304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the ib model. The regular i has the same hands as the a model

  • @panorama4526
    @panorama4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you have the 104 with either oh these bracelets, the brushed surface collides with the polished case of the watch.
    Sinn doesn‘t seem to care, but it‘s a deal breaker for me. Sinn have to work on their bracelets real quick.

    • @nokerti
      @nokerti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this h-link is entirely satinized and the one in the 104 have polished middle links.

  • @wannabetechnician7451
    @wannabetechnician7451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you should have swapped the bracelets just to show it

  • @hendryongkowidjojo3523
    @hendryongkowidjojo3523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Request: please compare sinn 556i with spb143. Thx before

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dive watch vs. Pilot watch? Not sure how much sense it would make to compare two watches that aren't intuitively being cross shopped against each other, sorry

  • @shipmate3577
    @shipmate3577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the Sinn H-Link bracelet... but hate / HATE the cheap arse clasp (feels like cheap tin) and is somewhat difficult to open without fingernails.

  • @grantgre
    @grantgre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So I like your videos except when you get to the part where you put them on your wrist.
    most people wear a watch above the protuberant bones in the wrist and not right up on top of their hand. It looks so weird to me ...no offense. But can you wear the watch like everyone else does almost looks like you’re hiding your wrists for some reason. I mean, I don’t know why am reacting to this but it just looks very awkward the way you wear your watch .

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam ปีที่แล้ว

    What is so great about a stamped clasp with only 3 micro-adjust positions on a $1,500 watch? Yes, part of the clasp is milled, but not where it counts. Sinn took the cheap way out. There's nothing "fine" about it. They should have made the clasp milled instead of stamped and offered a more elegant way of fine-tuning the adjustment. Sinn should be embarrassed for offering something that can be found on $100 rip-off watches. Sinn used common "parts bin" components on the H-Link bracelet. At least they put some effort into the clasp on the Fine-Link bracelet. To suggest that the H-Link clasp is superior to the butterfly clasp of the Fine Link bracelet is mystifying to me. It's beyond me to understand how you could come to that conclusion. Look at the difference in price for what WatchBuys charges for the Fine-Link over the H-link. Look at the fold-over clasp of a Doxa Sub 300-T. Yes, the Doxa is $300 more, but that clasp is also available on Miltat & Strap Code. It doesn't cost that much yet is far superior to the cheap clasp used on Sinn's H-Link bracelet.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It flows with the links and doesn't overpower the bracelet or watch head. It has manual micro adjustments, which mean you can dial in the fitment over the butterfly deployant, which make it better functionally. I like milled clasps with toolless micro adjustments as the next guy but just being milled doesn't necessarily make it better. The sea of milled v-buckle clasps aren't great and usually jut out adding gaps and thickness that don't flow well aesthetically or ergonomically. Is there a more expensive solution that would be nicer, I'm sure there is but saying that because some cheap ripoff watches can have glide locks is a horrible argument as to why this clasp is so bad. No, it isn't great but it works fine and wears well. Not sure it's worth all of the outrage you're feeling. You do realize this isn't the most expensive watch without that feature, right? Some don't even come with metal bracelets and can cost hundreds of times more with a standard tang buckle, lol

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As for the comparison to the ratcheting clasp from Doxa that is readily available to other brands and aftermarket bracelets, its not great and the extension is only really usable as a divers extension, in practice I wouldn't want to elongate the clasp on a hot day to secure good fit. Honestly Citizen has best executed that type of ratcheting clasp by using stamped components to reduce the bulkiness. So yeah, milled isn't always better there either.

    • @jimwatchyyc
      @jimwatchyyc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AverageBros Glad to see you monitor the comments well after your videos!

  • @osman01003
    @osman01003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugly gold rotor.