Nanolongrange V2 - single 18650 FPV drone with GPS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2024
- Here is the improved version of my Nanolongrange FPV drone frame. The .stl file for 3d printing the frame can be downloaded for free on Thingiverse: www.thingiverse.com/thing:481... I'm very happy with the results. Next upgrades will focus on the FPV system (different antennas and new RX module). Update: for more range set the VTX to higher power levels (as far as your local regulations allow +25mW). I will also test 21700 batteries and the Insta360 Go 2 on this frame.
0:00-0:16 3d printing the frame
0:17-0:58 design evolution
0:59-1:09 GNB27 connector
1:10-1:40 Immersion RC Ghost Zepto
1:41-1:59 connecting Rx and GPS to FC
2:00-2:19 installing FC
2:20-2:30 installing Rx T-antenna
2:31-3:18 installing motors
3:19-3:35 installing FPV camera
3:36-3:49 installing GPS
3:50-4:08 overview
4:09-4:24 Betaflight setup
4:25-4:40 mounting 18650 battery
4:41-4:51 AUW weight
4:52-5:13 final check/indoor flight
5:14-5:54 first outdoor test
5:55-6:35 fighting strong winds
6:36-8:21 full battery test
8:22-8:37 landing
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Update: all FPV footage shown in the video was recorded with the VTX at low power (25mW). VTX power level was set to 3 (not existing) instead of 2 (max level with 200mW).
Of all the things in your video I could have commented on I decided that I really like your Livingroom rug :D Oh and the video was great thanks.
But how does one switch vtx power? i tried using "set vtx_power=2" > "save" but it seems not to affect anything, also added "pit mode" in ranges, switch does not make any difference either
You need to enable smart audio on the corresponding UART ( I think it was UART 2) then you can switch
@@Unboxingexperience7 now i did that and vtx changed channel and hopefully power, but gps totally stopped working, i think i failed gps module with some data, because i did not disconnect it :( (surely i changed port settings back to gps)
when you switch the gps in the ports tab off, you ll loose the configuration. After enabling the gps in the ports tab, go to the configuration tab and ensure that the GPS is enabled with the correct parameters.
I love everything about this project. Nice innovative design, shared files and well edited video!
Everything about this remind me of when we first started building micros but we could only dream of getting this kind of flight time, printing our own frames and having gps onboard. There’s still allot to learn if you are just getting started but it’s greatly simplified with the simplicity of this kind of setup. I’d recommend going this route for anyone wanting to get started in FPV over spending thousands of dollars on one drone only to crash it once and be done, love it.
Best things about this are the flight time and the speed at which you can change the battery. The small quads with like a 4 minute flight time are a pain. And they often allow the battery to re-positioned each time you insert one, which can mean re-calibrating the balance again, by which time your 4 minutes are up. Great work on this!
Great job mate, I have built 100s of drones for people and my self, I have never designed and built a drone from scratch, top 3d printing, that wind looked choppy and still kept flying stable thumbs up to you to show this is a great build, remember the rules props off or fingers off when in Betaflight setup😀 I took 3 injuries to learn the hard way, no fingers no flying or build, great job very impressed 👏
Impressive. 20mins flight time. 💪🏼
I'm definitely following this project! I'd love to build a long range FPV quad of my own
Very well idea. The drone is compact and well designed. Congratulations and thank you for sharing the stl file.
Love this project man! Really stoked on what can be done with that DiamondF4 board!
Great job! This hobby is so amazing. It lets us be kids while using all the skills we've collected along the way or are still learning. Electronics, physics, creativity, and the thought process itself. It's not hard to see where the Chinese companies get the ideas from if you pay enough attention to youtube. I'll expect to see something like this with an 18650 on Banggood.
And a lot of country's say fk you with laws against fun.
Will be nice to see 3-copter powerd with single 18650 cell!
Are there small servo motors like that?
Incredible, the print sticks perfectly to the bed
Good level, and bed surface prep. Personally I've never had issues with PLA sticking to the bed even with the stock Ender material. With ABS I use abs dissolved in acetone. You can also try the salt water method for PLA. With hard stick, spray IPA on it and wait and it will delaminate itself without damage to the bed.
Awesome Video! Really Good Stuff!
Great work brotha very impressive build !!
Frame looks pretty good - love how that AIO fits perfectly. How'd the GPS do on sats/lock time? You could add a GPS mount above the battery that moves it from camera/fc noise and secure the battery at the same time...keep at it, you've got me inspired to try your version of the build. Well done!
warm start is 20-30sec. cold start in a new area around 2.5-3min!!!
I'm 10 seconds in and I already love the video...
Hey. thanks for sharing this. You inspired me to give making my own a shot.
Outstanding job
Wow it looks pretty cool Dude well made. 👍
Thanks! 👍
Excellent work!!
You clever man. Great video. Thank you.
Nice!!!
every good, rafael.
Awesome! Great work!
This is sick!
I like how you've used a standard battery plug, no power throttling issues like Dave_C's battery cradle. Impressive flight time too!
Gnb27 is perfect for 1s builds. you can use xt30 too but it s around 1g heavier. just dont use ph2. i dont like the cradle because i want to fly with lipo batteries too.
wait what does the batt connector have to do with throttline issues. Daves used a pcb mount one, which would probably have had greater series resistance that would have only really mattered at high amps beyond what 18650's are capable of anyway....the power throttling is for other reasons.
Nice build, always keep trying!
This is so sick!!! I would try 2s though...
Great job!
Awesome !!! I could use these in education projects i do for k12 stem schools (part of my grad school summer gig, i already am the "drone person" and also the person who hoards 18650s lol) :)
Thanks
What do you think about a 2s variant? Would solve some of the issues perhaps? Even just having 2 in parallel might work because of the nature of the "18650 voltage sag" I'm just worried adding a second cell in parallel might be too much weight for 1s
try 18350
haha love how you casually wear the submariner near a soldering iron
GREAT JOB AND VIDEO💯🚀🚀🚀
Thanks! 😃
First half song: Unicorn Heads - My Train's A Comin'
btw, it's copyright free
Pretty neat!
1:54 your soldering scars me :P but if it flies its a thumps up from me
I'm really bad at soldering, it even scars me... and the pads are so small
Men aren’t suppose to fear anything but God himself.
@@PacificNorthwest360 use fluz RMA-223, also if you are brushing your solder on your are ever set it to low or your solder is not good, i tent to keep my tip clean and hot, spending very little time on a joint, also find Duratool Rosin Core Solder Wire 0.6mm is very nice and flows nice, hope this help you not be as scary :P and nice video mate
@@Unboxingexperience7 Just get yourself a tip cleaner and it'll be much easier! Brass shavings work best in my experience. Nice video btw!
@@Unboxingexperience7 Solder flux (no clean paste) makes it so much easier. Trust me I've been there, you really wan't to use it. Nice clean and shiny solder joints.
Video quality of drone camera is not bad, it's ✨vintage ✨
GREAT VIDEO THANK U . LIKE IT .
Nice watch
Impressive!
Subscribed to ur great channel
Great build question GPS any good set up when use mine it goes so high in the air any chance also keeping throttle low be great to here from you
Your music choice is devine.
It's amazingggg
Do you happen to know it's name?
@@enalv6438 Unicorn Heads - My Train's A Comin'
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Is it your regular job to design frame and build drones? It's very impressive, very well documented, I can see the load of work behind this video. Great amazing job!
Thanks! No, I m just tinkering since years. Got better, but still far away from being a professional
An engineer would design the frame using finite element analysis to model the force at each motor mount and determine frame deflection to build the lightest frame geometry for a desired frame flex. For optimum flight u dont necessarily want stiffness at all points. If u want minimum flex then you can't beat FEA to design it right first time every time.
@@Unboxingexperience7 your project from A to Z is amazing. I'll probably print one for myself.
I'm a builder and printer too so I gotta ask, have you already attempted adding cavities to the print in arms/frame for inserting 3mm carbon sq tubing yet to increase stiffness? I realize there's a weight cost, but at that size it should be so small it should only cost a few grams?
Thanks
Hey so can you direct me to more resources on this technique? It sounds really interesting.
@@danielkoenen859 There's quite a bit of info on it a rcgroups in the 3d printed plane forum.
Очень круто!!! Very cool!
very nice...
now with a digital system:)
I need to buy a 3D printer. That looks like a fun build!
Ender 3 printer is a great first printer
Yes! Make sure you get good CAD software as well. Solidworks is the best, it's very expensive though. I believe a lifetime license is $4K. If you're a student tho, you may be able to get it for $100 a year or even free.
@@lucasceleste4743 FYI fusion 360 is free for hobbyists. Didn’t pay a dime, save that money for printer upgrades and filament 🤙🏻
@@bobbyb7708 I'm liking Fusion360 as well. Been printing for a while, just started getting into design a few months ago. Steep learning curve but definite progress made daily. Can't complain!
@@RYVENANT follow the fusion 360 channel on TH-cam, they offer tutorials!
Great video and editing, everything is on point and easy to follow. But, I missed one thing, is the FC / RX / VTX / camera / GPS capable of working off 2.5V power?
The FC has a 5V power out which works at least until 2.8V as shown in the video. The cutoff voltage on the crazybeeX is 2.25V - I guess it is the same on this board.
@@Unboxingexperience7 Thanks!
Is there a way to embed the bare copper into the frame?
May save some weight from the insulation. And eliminate some rubberbands.
This is AMAZING btw.
amazing
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Excellent content by the way !
What are you talking about bitcoins?? I dont get the joke I'am afraid. Because of the rolex watch?
😯 wow! Subbed
How did you solve camera cuttigout due to low voltage? The fc 5v voltage regulator normally has hard time under 3v.
step up regulator
@@pc-easy its a very simple comment, but they aren't wrong lol, there's also 1s boards that are built to be able to go down to 2 volts, and with some esc's you can mod them to work to lower voltages.
@@xymaryai8283 yeah, but does the fpv circuit work with that low voltage? I dont think so...let me know
www.pololu.com/product/2562 powering the camera and VTX , that will let you fly some more minutes, FC will shut down before the VTX with the 5V step up
Buena onda man, me llega 👍
If your nanolongrange acts weirdly, ESC restart and make tones again after arming consider solderin electrolytic capacitor to Batt connector. Mine was not working without his AT ALL.
Bad ass great job , , I would mind a stiffer frame & 15 -18 min fights instead .
This is bad ass!
looking forward to 21700 results
This will be interesting. Not sure if flight time increases. 21700 is 20g heavier with only 30% more capacity.
@@Unboxingexperience7 what is the flight time now ???
@@ridwanurrahman8945 20 min
@@Unboxingexperience7 Not sure exactly what batterys use are useing but AWT makes some very good 18650/12700, they have alot of kinds, but thier is a 3000 mah 60a 18650 thats amazing, and i similar 21700, the 18650 is better ratio tho, so i will be very suprised about flight times.
Very cool! I’m curious to know what your tune is for the nanolongrange v2 - if you’d be willing to share.. thx.
standard Betaflight 4.2 settings
Would recommend to try more narrow but thicker arms to reduce jello, also would be nice if the camera mount would be printed apart, that way it can also be lower and you could change it if when it brokes in crash ;)
Thanks, I m testing PETG to reduce jello but it s 2g heavier... I crashed a few times, the camera mount does not break.
Wonder how it be if i had cncmadness so it in 1.5mm CF bottom plate/arms.. Running 21700 sounded great. drone still will only be like 110g.. full throttle will be on that edge of 20a but battery sag should keep it under that
Great build! Very impressive battery life.👍
How much did all the parts collectively cost?
(Just the drone)
around 130$
Come the day when we're flying longer on 1s 2s, i've got 18650 e cig batteries , will these do the same job?
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This is some military grade $HIT
I'm a little worried about the rigidity and potentially problems with dust and just general dirt. But this looks so mass producable and cheap that they could be great for FOs.
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Nice build, can you post all the parts list and where you have bought them please..I would love to see how it will perform with 26650 & 21700 type cells
Hi, I put everything on www.thingiverse.com/thing:4818009
What is your board orientation settings in betaflight? (sadly you only displayed few cuts of screenshots of your configuration) My drone tends to flip when i try to arm it :( I soldered motors to nearest solder points on FC, also placed FC just as on video.
Another problem is, when i arm it motors spin up, but after a second or two they stop and replay init melody, they dont work until i disarm and arm them again.. what could be wrong?
My FC gave away magic smoke :( i'm so disappointed
hmmm.. can i use PH 2.0 connector for battery power? or i have to use that GNB27?
ph 2.0 lacks efficiency and amp rating. better to use xt30 which is a bit of overkill. optimum balance between weight, efficiency and amp resistance on 1s is Gnb27.
Cool! =8)
Do I need to mount the battery tray on the drone if I want to use a battery tray?
Hola ! Cuantos amperios consumen los 4 motores a velocidad maxima ? No es mucha descarga para VTC6 ??? Estaria bien hacer test de eficientia y probar mas motores con 1s , por ejemplo 1104 4000kw con helice 5030 da 7g/w unos 45g , yo he bobinado unos 1402 y con helice 5030 da mas de 70g empuje , pero tengo curiosidad saver la eficientia de los motores 1303 5000kw con helice 5030, creo que para mayor eficientia es mejor un bajo kw y helice grande pero hai que probar
ngl, so used to big stuff that I may have needed new pants after betaflight with props on XD
Lol :-)
Btw, 3inch on 1s is pretty safe and the battery was not connected.
@@Unboxingexperience7 yeah, just ptsd lol
at desarming after landing, MAX curent is 40 A (8'33'').
I'm realy surprised The Diamond F4 AIO ESC , rated for 5A (burst 6A) is not frying.
Are you specially lucky with that one or did you allready try this on few of those Diamond F4 ?
When upgrading to heavier 21700 LiIon, the current drawn will be higher.
Are you not afraid of burning the ESC of the Diamond ?
Thanks you for the good job and sharing your experiments.
the current sensor is way off. ampere drawn were also around 7000mAh. no, I m not worried about the amp draw. it s way worse on a babytooth. 21000 test will follow soon.
@@Unboxingexperience7 Ok I understand, thanks for the answer
I'm looking your next video
Yes rubber bands will keep everything together
I have absolutely no idea what you did, or how you did it... or even how you KNOW how to do sh*t like this! I have no expertise in electronics (but I CAN wire a plug! lol) and I'm blown away by the fact that someone can do sh*t like this in their garage (gimme a break, I'm 65yo ffs!)... BUT despite all that I couldn't stop watching! 😂 Great vid young man... why aren't you working in some aeronautical r&d facility? Maybe you are... I don't know, but my engineering background leaves me in awe at what you did... bloody brilliant!
Fyi... I'm a 65yo English guy living on a small tropical island in the Gulf of Thailand, so yeah... your vid travels well! 😉😁👍
i have to solder gps gnd to the same pad as the receiver gnd?
I'm actually quite surprise the "Happymodel DiamondF4 AIO" is still working under 3v... Should we assume that all receivers will follow at this low voltage if we plan to do this build ?
Or some of us might be disappointed if they doesn't pay attention to this...
Others builds usually use a step-up buck, but You managed to gets ride off, congratulation !
there is a step up integrated in the aio, it puts 5v out. the cut off voltage of the crazybeex is at 2.25v. i guess its the same at the diamond f4
quick question, how do you tell when the drone is low battery and needs to come back? i understand that the voltage is constantly fluctuating depending on how heavy you are on the throttle.
on nanolongrange drones you give rather constant throttle, so the voltage isn' t fluctuating much. at the start there is a big voltage sack, e.g to 3.6V. after that voltage goes down constantly.
@@Unboxingexperience7 ah ok, thanks for clarifying that, enjoy the rest of your day my friend
Wow, wonderfull job!!!
20 minutes flight time with such a small drone is really awesome!
I'm surprised that the 18650 cell can handle the amps.
Can you tell us what kind of 18650 cell you have used here (brand, type, C value)?
I would like to see this with DJI video system.
I have subscribed. I want to see more of this :-) Thank a lot!
Sony vct6 3000mAh 15A/30A burst
Did you find a way to add a separate vtx to this board? It doesn't seem to have a pad for camera out.
no, there aint one
Hola ! Saves si existe electronica para aviones 1S long range ?
Se colocar o circuito (talvez somente a câmera)numa gaiola da Faraday, acho que a interferência para.
Hi, what is the GPS for? Rescue mode?
super cool cocnept and design! how does the gps work in fpv? distance indicator?
Distance, Speed, Rescue mode, Home direction/distance and more
Looking good - are you sure the AIO can keep up with that on the long run? 5A seems pretty low for something that was designed to be used in the Moblite7 ^^ And I would really love to see this with naked Gopro or Go 2
I m using 5A AIOs on Babytooth builds. there the amp draw is definitely higher. still working on improving the vtx though. with a new antenna the results were promising. Now I need to find a place with enough space to test its limits. Go2 is coming as well as 21700 testing.
@@Unboxingexperience7 Oh, I have found something interesting today: BetaFPV produces their own plugs as well: BT2.0 - their weight according to BetaFPV: Male Connector- 0.34g / Female Connector - 0.24g. The GNB27 you are using weigh according to the BG listing: 0.46g / 0.36g. Joshua Bardwell tested them succesfully to 20A on 1S. It only gets you 0.24g but maybe an improvement, if it does influence flight time
I ll stick to gnb27 cause I use it on toothpicks too. They allow for higher amp draw and are almost the same weight.
@@Unboxingexperience7 They are both 1mm banaplug types and both rated for 9A continuous and 15A peak (according to BetaFPV's homepage and the GNB27 Amazon listing). From what I can see the BetaFPV ones don't have a concave solder joint shape but just flat, which I don't particularly like. So yeah, probably just a matter of preference ^^
Looking forward to your journey on this project. It's super-interesting! Makes me want to buy the parts too xD But I am still waiting for my micro long range parts :/ One question: Are you happy with the motors for this project? Or would you go for something different next version? Because maybe I will order just the motors and AIO (or a different AIO + extra VTX) via your link so I can build something like that in the future without having to wait ages ^^
you need dedicated 1s motors with around 11000kv and a rather big stator size of 12/13mm. Otherwise you will lack efficiency . The AIO is not that important. I'm using the lightest.
I'd appreciate a little bit of help with my build. I am running good batteries, but cannot seem to run the quad any lower than 3.2V before it falls out of the sky. From your video I can see that going below 3V without a problem. This way I cannot get any more than about 10 mins of flight time. Any suggestions would be appreciated :)
sounds to me like a protected cell which automatically cuts off at 3.2v to protect itself. use sony vtc6.
Is there a more in depth build video anywhere?
Excelent! I also want to mount a micro drone with GPS. Please, could you tell me which controller you used and which GPS module, please. Does he have a return to home?
The Diamond F4 is running Betaflight. I'm using a Beitian BN-180 GPS module. It has GPS rescue which brings the drone back to the homepoint.
And it's about 8 bucks on Aliexpress.. You need to do a little config on betaflight and it's not flawless but it works (the gps)
@Toxic Masculinity That's is not perfect and it's got its quirks. It's by far a DJI Return To Home, and it doesn’t get all the satalites all the time. The first time you use it it takes 10 minutes sometimes, then after that it goes faster but not all the time. Thats what I mean by not flawless. The DJI GPS is flawless, this one isn't, but it works most of the times if it connects... Does that answer your question?
With such long flight times I would rather look into autonomous flight. I would be bored after 5 minus without flippyflops. But for surveilling or other tasks such a small quad would be perfect. I might look into this for modding my DJI Tello drone.
well, it's about exploring. but I need to work on my fpv setup until I m confident enough to go longer range. by the way, you can do soft freestyle too. rolls and loops are possible even after a few minutes of flight
@@Unboxingexperience7 Cool! Very interesting project. What's the current draw when on medium/full throttle. Could you include that in the OSD? Now I only see mA drawn which is quite a lot! :D
where people getting the m2
titanium screws from
@W A i searched all over today.. hope its real. ill weigh it and do a video about it on my future LR 5" video that got delay.. Corona Quarantine .. I also ordered m2 countersunk for frame too.. from hobbyking .. hobby has titanium m2x6 and m2x8 and others
Have you tried using express lrs? The 2.4 ghz receiver is only .5 g, and can go many kilometers!
I even built my own elrs tx but at the time of the video rx were not available. Ghost uses the same Lora platform but is plug n play. the Zepto RX is 0.35g without antenna! Therefore I went for Ghost.
Mine seems a lot more stable, but I have no more than 100m range on video. 12 - 15 min flight time. what FPV great are you using? also I'm 45grams more than yours. That light!! really light. well done!
110g AUW should be your limit on 3018 props. For the VTX it s necessary that the copper wire faces straight down the frame. 300m without major break ups on Eachine pro58, a pagoda and a patch. Currently I m working on improving the FPV feed. I m switching to TBS Fusion with a MenaceRC pico patch antenna on the receiver side. On the vtx I tested successfully an omni antenna. But its placement caused GPS issues... Now I m trying a whip antenna. I want to get 1.2km/0,9mi video range. I also have a fallback solution by using a tramp nano vtx. But I really want to avoid it.
Keep us updated with any design changes! Thanks for sharing, estimated total cost assuming I have nothing?
drone is around $130; FPV goggles and RC system are more expensive
What pins did wire the receiver to?
AWESOME BUILD!
What's the music called btw?
The one at 2:30
"around the field"
Where did you get those Flywoo 1202.5 motors please? It seems like they are out of stock everywhere ☹️
banggood but I had them already. good alternatives are rcinpower 1202.5, happymodel 1202.5 and aeolus 1202.5
@@Unboxingexperience7 do you think there will be much difference in performance between those 4 brands? I can get the Aeolus and happymodel quite cheaply, so was thinking of getting them...
then i would go for the aeolus - dave_c is using them too
@@Unboxingexperience7 Any idea who has them in stock? All Happymodel, HGLRC or Flywoo 1202.5 11600kv are everywhere out of stock since weeks
banggood has happymodel in stock and claims that flywoo and aeolus are restocked mid april.
What about soldering a better antenna? Would increase the weight by about 1 and a half gram but I think it's worth it
yes, this works. I already tested with an omnidirectional antenna. but I mounted it to the gps cage. it interfered and I couldnt gat a gps fix. now I m trying a simple whip antenna.
awesome! I am getting those 4 blinking stars in betaflight too, do you know what that means? smth related to gps I guess, but why does not it say it
I think it's a warning
@@Unboxingexperience7 I think so too, but would be nice to know which kind to get rid of it
It's a visualization of the beeper, if one is connected then it would beep too. Indicating a warning. probably the battery voltage isn't configured correctly in betaflight and it think's its about to die or something.
@@Maxloader oh, thanks!
Cool!!!!