I actually have 4 clubs with a 21 degree loft. I have a 7 wood, 4 hybrid, a conventional 3-iron, and a driving iron. Of these, two are in the bag, my 7-wood and my 3-iron. I love the 7 wood for high shots, and long shots to the green. I keep the 3-iron around for situations where I need low shots out from trees. The driving iron hits the ball higher than the 3 iron, and when I hit it well, it goes nearly as far as the 7-wood, but i mishit the ball far, far more often. The hybrid I will never carry. I have never hit even one good shot with it. I think it's because it is so much heavier than my other clubs.
Great comparison, guys! And I do appreciate Thomas seriously ratcheting down his speed for our benefit. I actually carry both a 7-wood and a 4-iron at 21º. The 7-wood gets a ton of use simply because it goes farther and it's stupid easy to hit. But it's also incredibly versatile for a golfer with average speed. I can hit it high and low and cut and draw it - all by making very small adjustments in my set-up. It's a real Swiss Army knife anywhere from 160-200 yards for me. The 4-iron gets used more in Nebraska because the wind is often insane, and the flight is lower and it'll roll out. I also hit it on some longer par-3s, and for those lovely low punch escapes under trees! I don't seem to get along with hybrids well.
Really cool comparison , I play a 25 degree hybrid with a 38.5 in shaft and a 7 wood with a 41.5 in shaft . I can always choke down a bit if I want but that extra length gapped me better swing speed 90 -95 on the two. The 7 wood is harder to hit out of the rough but that hybrid choked down is pretty good.
I love these videos like these because there are clear advantages to each club, but in the end it really is player preference. My swing personal benefits from a hybrid, just a great in-between. I dont really care to hit so high but I still want a nice penetrating ball flight with a bit more forgiveness.
I hit my seven wood out of the rough all the time. Honestly, I don’t even use my four hybrid anymore. It will stop on a dime when it hits the green. The spinach generates insane.
I agrée with the slower swing speeds. There are too many TH-camrs just showing off their unrealistic swing speed, honed on launch monitors. 95% of golfers will never achieve these and the data is irrelevant when testing clubs etc. We need data that fits the majority, not scratch/ pro golfers
I play a 2 hybrid which is actually the Nickent 3d f/w 17° which has the same specs as that Callaway UW that came out last year. Then up to 4 hybrid, then 5 iron. That gaps me quite well.
Great theme for this video 👍😀 Interesting how the landing angle of the 7W and (almost) also the 4H is exactly the same🧐. Of course the delivery is different, and Thomas managed to get a lot more spin into the balls with those two woods, which I believe would be a major contributor to achieving higher flight and steeper landing angle, matching Ian's faster speed flight. Would you say, that a lower (normal 😅) swing speed players could benefit from delivering the clubhead differently if the flight from higher lofted woods are too shallow - and if yes, what would be a way to acheive that?
I’m one of those guys Garry! :) Are u still gaming ur 5H? I’m doing another giveaway on my channel btw! Not to highjack Thomas’ channel. Just checking out this video and saw ur comment :) Cheers!
I have a 17 degree 2 hybrid and 5 iron. To fill that gap I’m thinking of getting the stealth dhy 3 iron at 19 degrees. Is there any way that a hybrid and a driving iron can both fit in a bag as I’d like to have both
my question is a high handicapper is more likely than a lower handicapper to hit the rough. Given that, which club would be better for the lower speed, higher handicapper to get the ball out of the rough?
@@swinglabperformancegolf i think my clubs are messed up. I play 20-25 year old clubs, all 'hand me downs'. my driver is heavier than your 7 wood test. D 336.3 3w 355.9 4w 377.9 2i 418.2 3i 425.8g (some lead tape on 3i) I do use the white standard golf pride tour wrap which is 55.5g. Iron shafts are r300 (cut 120 ish). Seems like weight of head and shaft might have a significant contribution to distance over the past 2 decades... Can u do a video about club weight and progression throughout the bag?
I am looking for a good 5 or 7 wood but not sure which brand to go with i am unable to go try them out I am 59 years old 7 handicap ss of 90-94 mph i am looking for distance / forgiveness / and good value what are your thoughts can you give me your top 3 suggestions i would really appreciate it all opinions welcomed thx cheers from Canada
Simple answer to your question.. with the iron you're coming down on the ball.. with the 7 wood you're coming from behind. This will certainly affect the spin and height.
Really liking the dual swing speed format. So much more useable info for someone like me. Thanks for putting these videos out there.
I actually have 4 clubs with a 21 degree loft. I have a 7 wood, 4 hybrid, a conventional 3-iron, and a driving iron. Of these, two are in the bag, my 7-wood and my 3-iron. I love the 7 wood for high shots, and long shots to the green. I keep the 3-iron around for situations where I need low shots out from trees. The driving iron hits the ball higher than the 3 iron, and when I hit it well, it goes nearly as far as the 7-wood, but i mishit the ball far, far more often. The hybrid I will never carry. I have never hit even one good shot with it. I think it's because it is so much heavier than my other clubs.
Watched a bunch of your videos by now and I must say you deliver really adequate content with rational explanations. This is very good. Top job!
Great comparison, guys! And I do appreciate Thomas seriously ratcheting down his speed for our benefit. I actually carry both a 7-wood and a 4-iron at 21º. The 7-wood gets a ton of use simply because it goes farther and it's stupid easy to hit. But it's also incredibly versatile for a golfer with average speed. I can hit it high and low and cut and draw it - all by making very small adjustments in my set-up. It's a real Swiss Army knife anywhere from 160-200 yards for me. The 4-iron gets used more in Nebraska because the wind is often insane, and the flight is lower and it'll roll out. I also hit it on some longer par-3s, and for those lovely low punch escapes under trees! I don't seem to get along with hybrids well.
fantastic stuff, thanks, keep up the good work. Considering a 7w 🙂 for my fast swing speed.
Really cool comparison , I play a 25 degree hybrid with a 38.5 in shaft and a 7 wood with a 41.5 in shaft . I can always choke down a bit if I want but that extra length gapped me better swing speed 90 -95 on the two. The 7 wood is harder to hit out of the rough but that hybrid choked down is pretty good.
I love these videos like these because there are clear advantages to each club, but in the end it really is player preference. My swing personal benefits from a hybrid, just a great in-between. I dont really care to hit so high but I still want a nice penetrating ball flight with a bit more forgiveness.
how is the 7wood out of the rough? I would love to replace my hybrid with a 7wood but the hybrid is pretty good out of the rough.
I hit my seven wood out of the rough all the time. Honestly, I don’t even use my four hybrid anymore. It will stop on a dime when it hits the green. The spinach generates insane.
Fascinating video, great comparison with clubs & swing speeds. Thanks.
I agrée with the slower swing speeds. There are too many TH-camrs just showing off their unrealistic swing speed, honed on launch monitors. 95% of golfers will never achieve these and the data is irrelevant when testing clubs etc. We need data that fits the majority, not scratch/ pro golfers
I play a 2 hybrid which is actually the Nickent 3d f/w 17° which has the same specs as that Callaway UW that came out last year. Then up to 4 hybrid, then 5 iron. That gaps me quite well.
I asked this question on Reddit today. And here we are!
Great theme for this video 👍😀
Interesting how the landing angle of the 7W and (almost) also the 4H is exactly the same🧐. Of course the delivery is different, and Thomas managed to get a lot more spin into the balls with those two woods, which I believe would be a major contributor to achieving higher flight and steeper landing angle, matching Ian's faster speed flight.
Would you say, that a lower (normal 😅) swing speed players could benefit from delivering the clubhead differently if the flight from higher lofted woods are too shallow - and if yes, what would be a way to acheive that?
Thomas great that your showing slower swing speeds to suit us inferior TH-cam golfers 😜
I’m one of those guys Garry! :)
Are u still gaming ur 5H?
I’m doing another giveaway on my channel btw! Not to highjack Thomas’ channel. Just checking out this video and saw ur comment :)
Cheers!
I have a 17 degree 2 hybrid and 5 iron. To fill that gap I’m thinking of getting the stealth dhy 3 iron at 19 degrees. Is there any way that a hybrid and a driving iron can both fit in a bag as I’d like to have both
my question is a high handicapper is more likely than a lower handicapper to hit the rough. Given that, which club would be better for the lower speed, higher handicapper to get the ball out of the rough?
From what I’ve been told the hybrid would be best.
I’m high handicapper and I like hybrid out rough
Does Ian de-loft a lot at impact? Seen 7 woods go at least 50 feet higher at his speed.
could you tell me what the total weight of each club was with the 7w, 4h, 3i?
3i: 410.6g, 4Hy: 373.6g, 7w: 335.1g. It was hard to dial back the speed especially with the 7wood due to it being so much lighter. - Thomas
@@swinglabperformancegolf i think my clubs are messed up. I play 20-25 year old clubs, all 'hand me downs'. my driver is heavier than your 7 wood test. D 336.3 3w 355.9 4w 377.9 2i 418.2 3i 425.8g (some lead tape on 3i) I do use the white standard golf pride tour wrap which is 55.5g. Iron shafts are r300 (cut 120 ish). Seems like weight of head and shaft might have a significant contribution to distance over the past 2 decades... Can u do a video about club weight and progression throughout the bag?
I am looking for a good 5 or 7 wood but not sure which brand to go with i am unable to go try them out I am 59 years old 7 handicap ss of 90-94 mph i am looking for distance / forgiveness / and good value what are your thoughts can you give me your top 3 suggestions i would really appreciate it all opinions welcomed thx cheers from Canada
If you have a place that will let you try and return a club or a simulator you should do that. Ping is my pick for easy to hit and forgiving
The difference in height with the fast 3 iron and the slow 3 iron is not just swing speed!!! Look at the attack angle! That makes a massive difference
3 iron is good for a driving iron with the run out and the wood for a par 3 with the height and spin
Simple answer to your question.. with the iron you're coming down on the ball.. with the 7 wood you're coming from behind. This will certainly affect the spin and height.
spin on the hybrid wasnt too bad
Uh, did you guys plan on saying something at some point?
Technically great, thank you, but could be made easier to view by following the 180° rule
Too bad you didn’t test at a slower speed… Mid HCP, Seniors, and Ladies…
ian has giant hands
fairway woods have a longer shaft than hybrid.