Murderous Minors: Nature Or Nurture? | Law & Order SVU
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- The question of nature or nurture has long been debated. What happens when Detective Benson and Detective Stabler encounter cases that reveal minors as the attackers and not the victims...
00:00 Home S05 E16
07:32 Conscience S06 E06
14:20 Manic E05 E02
Season 5, Episode 16 'Home': Detectives interview an overprotective mother to find out why her son is scavenging for food.
Season 6, Episode 6 'Conscience': The detectives and the district attorney get played first by the teenage murderer of a young boy, and then by the victim's father, who uses his professional expertise to escape punishment for avenging his son's death.
Season 5, Episode 2 'Manic': While investigating a school shooting that claimed the lives of two students, the squad realizes that the surviving victim is actually the shooter and the side effects of a medication may have caused his actions.
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if i found a little boy eating garbage out of a can and this kid goes "please dont tell my mom i was eating" im not returning that little boy to the family, not in a MILLION years! that little boy would have never and i repeat NEVER return that little boy to his parents
Unfortunately if you just kept him, his mother would have the law on your side.
Call CPS anonymously, as many times as it takes to get people to notice… maybe sneak him some food too
wow you're such a badass. You going to shoot a bunch of other people to keep that from happening? Loser.
What was that woman's problem?! She's clearly psychotic!
This show needs to be off the air every time I see it I personally don't think that everyone should be watching crime shows because it's not kid friendly and kids should not be allowed to watch something that will make them inappropriate and kids should not be allowed to be watching it with their parents even parents are not allowed 🚫 to be watching crime shows that is making their kids scared
@@CS-vf1zn if you don’t like a show, don’t watch it. If you don’t want kids watching it, don’t let them watch it.
You cannot censor the world according to your personal views.
Honestly they found alot of REALLY good child actors for this show.
hes a caulkin
It’s not nature or nurture, it’s nature *and* nurture.
Exactly.
Except the sociopath
@@Ooileitrue.
@@Ooilei No, that too.
@@ActuallyHoudininot Jake. I guess.
13:33 That face gave my actual literal nightmares. Not a SPECK of remorse.
The boy actor is the kid from home alones little brother. Hes such a good litte actor😊
I thought he looked like him and was confused because the ages were all wrong.
23:05 intrusive thoughts are more complex than what people give them credit for. I still remember when I planned mine. Fortunately, I never had the motivation to actually pursue them, but I understand where Joe's coming from. The planning only means will, not commitment.
Poor Joe...Trapped in his own mind and body...I know how it feels to be limited by the body, but not trapped by it. I always loved the fact I was born with Asperger, I find myself among the unique thanks to it.
Also, I know what Joe did was wrong, but if even knowing of mental diseases will not wake up empathy in the bullies, what will ?
Great question.
I was born Asperger's too, diagnosed at 19, lived about 11 school years until 3rd grade middle school with the same bully, I usually tried to avoid or ignore him, only in the last few years I asked for help and the teacher tried to stop him, but only in the last class dinner before summer, as the bully tormented me again, there I shouted out all the frustration I accumulated, scaring him for good.
After that we went to different high school and university/workplace and I became a software developer, while he worked in a pizza restaurant.
A few months ago I had a dinner with the old class and I saw him again: for all the evening he always avoided talking or even making eye contact with me, after all those years it was such a satisfying moment to feel some defeat in him.
@@stef96ify I'm glad you found peace.
Yes!! Our brains can make us doing terrible things!! Mental illness is real! I’ve had terrible reactions to medication. Not this bad obviously but I know how it feels to an extent!
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To people who might think this stuff doesn’t happen in real life there are plenty of instances where stuff like this happens irl for example the waukesha stabbing where 2 12 year old girls stabbed their friend almost to death in the name of slender man it’s a real story look it up
Glasgow man was the SVU version.
Yeah it was all because the parents weren’t monitoring their social media usage. It’s where they got the idea, they got it from the internet
@@JamesTheNonbinaryKing2 here’s the thing I truly believe that people like those girls are born mentally defective and that all this stuff about slender man was a trigger for them to carry out that atrocity so it’s not exactly the parents fault and I’m pretty sure the parents thought them right from wrong but they were so obsessed with slender man and they thought he was real that they did this
There are so many cases of children killing other kids not just in the US,but in every country none of these are isolated cases.
@@mysticloverfairy1 well yeah of course
Poor Adam, his mom lied to him and forced to kill his little brother. The 9th circle of hell is too good for her.
In "Star Wars: TCW", there was this quote that said "Evil isn't born, it's taught.". Even if a child is born with unfiltered urges, without the proper nurture, that's when they'll turn evil.
I wonder what's the definition of "evil" by people. By the older brother's standards, it seems "evil" correlated to the entire world. By Jake, it seems "evil" is merely the norm.
Neglect, spoiling, despair...There are so many ways for a parent to break a child. But it'll be up to the latter to choose the reaction according to the beliefs engraved in their brains.
Nature and nurture. Not nature vs nurture.
I’d suggest hatred and racism are almost always taught.
Evil, when defined by a lack of morals, or empathy, is more often a sign of psychopathy, especially when it’s exhibited in young people.
@@Sniperboy5551indeed.
@@catmaxwell6691makes sense. Thanks for the insight.
There's an alternative version of "X-Men" in which Professor X is obessessed in researching sociopathy, believing it to be our next evolutionary step. I wonder what did he base his theories upon (the comic's set on the 30's, in case this is important).
We humans are truly fascinating creatures. I wonder if any other animal has the potential to develop psycho/sociopathy. What do you think ?
@@JabamiLain there’s been research done on psychopathy in cats.
(And any theories “professor x” had were likely based on the imagination of the comic book’s author, or published articles on sociopathy available at the time it was written.)
Agent Cooper wanted to go easy on the kid because he knew Bob made him do it.
I knew that one kid who was the school shooter looked familiar, like I’ve seen him in a movie, found out that’s Rory Culkin. Macaulay Culkin (AKA Kevin McCallister from home alone) is his brother
He played Ghostface in Scream IV.
Even before the reveal, something in the way Jake talked felt...wrong.
I'm curious about something. How can a psycho/sociopath have so little regard for his own body ? I thought their lack of emotional stimuli would lead them to be extra careful about those, since they're extra narcisistic. Are they that empty inside ? What's all the narcisism for if they won't even care for themselves ?
What felt wrong to you is that the emotion was performative. The way he expressed emotions from the start--- he *looked* like he was acting. Similar to what you see in old cheesy sitcoms. This is actually pretty legit (source; I'm a therapist XD) in terms of antisocial personality disorder; the people who struggle with this often do not understand emotions or how to display them sincerely. So they practice and copy what they see in media/from other people. If they're good at that, they can become VERY persuasive, charismatic and appear very genuine. If they're not so good at it, they come off like Jake does here; with a level of 'performance' that is offputting to others.
As for him hurting himself, it's not about having little regard, and it's not about narcissism. It's about manipulation to get what he needs/wants. Jake is likely extremely aware of the fact that he doesn't really 'pass' well when it comes to expression of normal day to day emotions, so he needs a backup plan. Notice how much more believable his emotional display was when he was able to just lean into the Big Drama of it? That's his Get Out of Jail Free card, literally. But he has to have the story to back that up. So he hurts himself, concocts a story to justify the emotional breakdown, and uses both to manipulate the adults around him into meeting his needs/desires. This is also pretty textbook accurate--albeit on the SEVERE end lol. Being extremely manipulative in pretty much all areas of social contact is a diagnostic criteria for antisocial personality disorder.
@@saralovelace7219 thanks for the explanations.
I also have difficulty expressing some day to day emotions. I hope I don't come off too performing either. It's not that I don't feel them, my face and voice just don't express them as easily as other people do, which is ironic, because I've always been complimented whenever I perform in theatre.
I get he needs a way to backup his story. But to hurt himself kinda casually ?
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An aspd person will ofren cut and hurt themselves. They bruise themselves and say others did it. Common tactic. They dont care about themselves alot commit suicide as they do know deep down they are bad and have to manipulate. I had an aspd partner who often bruised his face and lied and said whoever he was mad at did it. He did it so often police even caught on. He wpuld every few months break dowm and say he wanted to be someome different; but this is jist for pity. They even attempt suicide to get out of court cases etc but its always well timed; when they need emotional support.sometimes i guess it is they feel bad about their actions but when they aint caught they dont break down they only seem to break down when they realise their actions have consequences they cant escape. Arguably the boy in video is a psychopath cuz a sociopath gets more emotional and would be very upset when sentenced however short as they feel they dont deserve it. A psychopath know he deserves more and can keeo themselves regulated with thoights like that. They are very manipulative people , incredibly. The beat way to deal with a sociopath or psychopath is get as far away as possible and never look back. Trying to out them will backfire.
Emotional abuse shouldn’t be hard to prove if you see somebody is manipulating someone you see someone’s constantly trying to put them down or do anything that is seen as emotionally manipulative I just can’t list all the things without making this a huge novel but it shouldn’t be hard to prove I was emotionally, abused as a kid, and I can tell you that the signs are pretty visible as an adults talking to people who knew me when I was a kid. Some of my friends are even saying now as adults you know, now that we’re adults we’re kind of seeing the behaviour you displayed was showing that someone could’ve been emotionally abusing you obviously, that was my best friend who brought that up and that was because I had brought it up first but what I’m saying is now as adults me and my friends can look back on my behavior As a kid and clearly see that I was being emotionally abused and these are friends who sometimes didn’t even come over to my house. These were Friend’s that I hung out with at school and stayed friends with and then only started hanging out with outside of school when school ended meaning when we graduated they had never been over to my house and seen what happened there so I don’t think it’s that hard to prove if you clearly see like for example, in this situation, the mother is using food to control him and he is clearly not wanted her to know that she’s eaten. He’s nervous about her. He scared about her. They should immediately be seen as abuse. The two detectives were absolutely right while I agree at this point in time they can’t exactly prove what kind of abuse it is it’s definitely either physical or emotional
The "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me" is absolute bullshit. People seem to think that scars you can't see are okay.
Hypothetical scenario, if during 4 years, a kid refused to leave their house, and school, or any other institution didn't help, and in a desperate move, the mother decided to take advantage of the fact they were moving outta town to cut the kid's access to some basic needs in order to force him out of the house (the company contracted for the change would cut the electricity, so while there would be food, it would go bad after a while), would that be abuse ?
Edit: Thank you for all the answers. Btw, for those who didn't recognize scenario, I based it after "OMORI".
If a kid hasn't left the house in 4 years by refusal the school board should have come in and gotten some psychiatrical help because that kid should have been at school if they're still a kid.
@@jamiemartin1434in this scenario, they didn't, so we're left with the mother's solution. What's your take on it ?
See when I think basic needs I think food water and shelter. So if any of those are being threatened then yes it’s abuse, to me at least. But if it’s a matter of the child or the environment then I’d have to simply question the motives, but if the child is still cared for then no not abuse.
@@janaelewis1016oh ! I meant food and electricity. Or rather, there is food, but without electricity, won't last long.
And she did it, because it's been 4 years, she made no progress getting him out of the house, she received no help, they were about to move, and she was certain if he didn't to at least say goodbye, he'd regret it forever.
The plan was that he'd get out, get food for himself, and hopefully, regain contact with the outside world. If it didn't work, they'd move, and the plan was to forget completely.
@@janaelewis1016ok, edited the comment. Also, how punishable would it be ?
This episode always makes me sad and how this is showed
These little sociopaths to me are born that way.
They're born with the urges, like everyone is. The nurturing only enhances them. Except for Jake. That one was a true bad seed.
Good thing you're not the one deciding on this stuff, then.
Some are. Some aren’t
Man Charlie Walker was messed up even back then. No wonder he grew up to be a Ghostface.
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART. Iykyk
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@pettybee3860 in the second case. When the dad finds out the kid killed his son, he grabbed the police officers gun and shot the little kid. The first time I saw that I lost my mind.
I dated a boy lile that sociopath. He would say he could put on tears in court. His mhm makes exvuse after excuse for him. He has aspd and has been violent, and hurt animals and strangled me so much. They get away with it. Its the grossest misjustice..they have lifelong records and short sentences cuz courts feel bad for them
The older brother reminds me of Riku from "Kingdom Hearts" to an extent. So suicidal, he mutates it into murder. Stories like "Kingdom Hearts" are the "OMORI" HeadSpace of shows like this.
aww they left out the part where the doctor shoots the kid
When did he shoot the kid? Does the kid die?
@@NH-tb2sm more or less right after the kid gives the fake sorry and yes the child dies
@@galaxy-eb9sp did the doctor go prison?
@@NH-tb2sm No, he got away with it
@@NH-tb2sm yeah that's pretty insane they only go after one crime
Please someone tell me that the every episode has different story or are they interlinked??
Different episodes
@@PastryChick thankyou 🥰
they're all completely different episodes, think about it as new cases. although a few of the episodes are 2-parts
About that last episode who did the mom get it from?Was it anyone with the legal and professional expertise to describe that medication?Because I have Asperger's and one difficulties and I know how messed up taking incorrect type medication can do to a person and a kid should not be able to stay up for three days straight with out being under the influence of something serious that affects the mentally. I can't even take drink alcohol because of my medication .
A pharmaceutical company had a business partnership with a bunch of psychologists, and they just sent out a free trial of their medication to a bunch their patients without mentioning the negative side effects or that the meds hadn't been properly tested.
The company saw that the mother had previously been prescribed antidepressants so they sent a sample of their medication to her. She read the leaflet and their glamorised description and thought it would help her son, which is why she tried it on him.
They proved the Pharma company was being negligent and tried to have the CEO charged with facilitating a murder but instead he was charged with criminal diversion of prescriptions and reckless endangerment and was imprisoned
@@MikaIsDead Sounds like the mother was more negligent than the company considering they didn't even intend for the medication to go to the kid and see gave it to a clearly Gave someone who had clear problems to begin with strong medication that wasn't even intended for them. I mean when I talk to my mom I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to give unintended type medication to juveniles like painkillers without having going through your doctor or another professional.
There's a reason why most psychotropic drugs are scheduled so only a MD can prescribe them.
00:53 Adam is cold. Like an Iceman.
There are so many women's power in SVU
Except they're likable and realistic.
Not nature or nurture. More like sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissists.
But how do they become like that is it nature or nurture?
@@mysticloverfairy1 Beats me!
That kid Macauley Culkin?
His younger brother.
Working in criminal justice...almost 70 percent of crimes are now documented and provided as evidence to the DA by the defendant ❤
Everything begins with choice.
These episodes are pretty dark.
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What is the name of this episode.
It's a bunch of different episodes.
I find certain "rights" we, as citizens, have, to be disturbing. I know "Security over freedom" is the pathway to dictadorship, but if "Star Wars EU" teaches something, is that the reason people even consider it, is because the freedom we praise so much is often mistaken by anarchy.
Sometimes, spaces have to be violated. You must be sure it'll be for the right reasons though.
Which rights do you find disturbing in particular? I’d love to know.
@@Sniperboy5551having the right not to answer questions during an interrogation, for instance. And having a lawyer during said interrogations.
@@JabamiLainAlso having the right not to let police officers inside the household
@@stef96ify I considered that one, but after some reflection, I figured that one is actually kind of necessary evil, because there is always that cop who might take things too far during an investigation.
lol shrimp, this kid would drive an oversized truck and wear a red hat in future
3:44 living alone in a house with no man ? What your 2 kids both boys, don't count ?
Depends on how old the boys were when she got the gun. Say both are under the age of 15, I wouldn't count them as men.
U guys just rinse and repeat the same clips
The dad is so cold seeing sson dead body 😅
Tradução ok
when is your video with blue hat and blonde boy
Is that rory culkin?