Doom 3 vs 2005 Retro PCs: Athlon X2 3800+/6800GT + Pentium 4 3.6GHz/6800 Go!
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- Alex Battaglia pits his recently assembled Retro PC from the 2004/2005 era against one of the gaming colossi of the era: id software's Doom 3. Witness how the game really ran on the hardware of the time, and prepare for performance nightmares courtesy of Windows Vista.
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Yeah, XP would have been more accurate. Vista didn't come until late 2006.
@@d34dbolt20 Once SP1 came out Vista was amazing 😜
@@d34dbolt20 Vista was fine if you didn't have a potato PC.
Adrian Wujtowicz they're using SP2 here though and it's not exactly perfect. I had Vista though and it was fine. It was a must for object motion blur in Crysis.
Except it's not completely inaccurate either, it's not unusual for people to wait 2 years plus to get into a game waiting for prices to drop.
Vista didn't come until 2007. Still have vivid memories of the long going farce of that whole thing. It was useable after SP1, but not really decent until SP2, but by that time, in late May 2009, 7 had already been a release candidate for almost a month and everyone were waiting for that. Vista eventually even got DX11 support. The big problem was that it fundamentally changed so many things but MS didn't prepare anyone for that, so drivers were broken. It was inefficient and way too resource demanding 2 GB RAM was a must for a decent experience, rendering the 32-bit version pretty much superfluous. MS should have axed 32-bit for consumers.
i love the whole "two friends play an online co-op game and enjoy their time" vibe of this video
nonono its two colleagues not friends.
@@funkycosmonaut lol alright buddy
@@funkycosmonaut Friend AND colleague :))))
I had a blast playing this with my girlfriend with the campaign Coop Mod. I made a script to force the walking / running / jumping to slower, more realistic speeds to match the game animations, and we play the game as a two man cover and support, tactical shooter just like we played Rainbow Six Vegas 2. The "its just the two of us" survival horror elements of the game was a big hit with her.
@@fredsas12 girlfriend and colleague
Rip and screen tear, until it is done
lmfao, so true !
maybe "rip N screen tear, until it is undone !
Had a hardy laugh reading that!
@@jokersdisciple8771 hearty*
There was no reason to run Vista. Doom 3 came out 3 years before it existed and was designed to run on XP.
yeah I got confused for a second when he started talking about Vista. I don't think I new anyone back then when the game was relevant that ran Vista, no one liked it.
Hell it runs 10x better on Win10 with compatability patches at 144hz. Infinitely smoother and fun to play imo. I always played games a few years after release at much higher framerates anyway lol
Really odd, especially for DF I think.
Vista is gorgeous to look at, but a pain to work with. Win7 solves most if not all of Vista's issues whilist keeping its aesthetics.
@@reptilez13 Just before the release of Eternal I re visited all the older games. I ended up playing Doom3 and RoE in dhewm3 (avoided BFG because of odd changes). without mods the game still looked really good. ofc in 144 and 3840x1080
I love the atmosphere in this game. It's different than all the other Doom games. A unique experience from the mid 2000's, and I still love to replay it. :D
Totally. I'm replaying it right now! I just discovered the RBDoom3 port with the Hi-Def mod. It looks awesome!
Doom 1 on PS1 was very similar in terms of mood and atmosphere, with enhanced sound effects and entirely remade soundtrack by Aubrey Hodges. It was probably the direct inspiration for Doom 3's more horror-focused style. I've always liked Doom 3 because I'm one of those people who hands-down prefers Doom PS1 over the original.
That laptop was such a BEAST for the time, what the hell?? I never heard of it until now. What an absolute weapon of a laptop.
For real, that’s impressive now lol.
"prepare for performance nightmares courtesy of Windows Vista."
Gee it's almost like you should be running XP on a rig like this.
MIND = BLOWN :D
If you look at the first video, he stated using Windows Vista to be able to test games from more modern era.
@blitzcaster Yeah that's a wash because most games up till about 2012-2013 still officially supported XP. And you're not seriously gonna be running many games later than 2009 on this hardware anyway
@@UltimateAlgorithm that makes no sense. Most gamers went from XP to 7 because Vista was such a disaster. It's unrealistic to use Vista for game testing
@@Kougeru he said it due to DirectX support. Windows XP only have 9.0c while Vista have DirectX 10 support. IIRC he said that the hardware only have drivers up to Windows Vista. If 7 is possible it would be better, since most modern games relies on DX11.
People keep saying "This System" should be running XP and not Vista.
NO SYSTEM EVER should be running Vista.
same for windon't 10
@@MedicMain9 Ur dad should have used protection!
@@ximrade4287 tf did u say??
I remember as a fourth grader, when I saw Vista I was like “wow look at this new system runs so slow, it must have really advanced features”. That was all the memory I had with Xp because a couple of days later my parents reinstalled Xp.
Highlights of Doom 3 NPC shenanigans
12:42 Pinky Demon spazzes out and kills both John and Alex.
15:42 Imp T-Poses in sheer dominance as it spawns in a pentagram.
18:11 Another Imp T-Poses right in front of John.
25:31 Alex gets overwhelmed by a group of Imps.
27:21 Imp gets convulsions and blows to smitherines.
28:55 John gets ambushed by a Machinegunner.
38:34 Another Imp T-Posing.
41:18 Maggot gracefully falls down with a ping of 300.
49:23 Yet another T-Posing Imp.
"What operating system is it running on?"
"Vista"
"WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!"
Id love to see some
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow (Broken shadows past the ATi X850 cards)
Unreal tournament 2k4
Battlefield 2 & 2142
Swat 4
Hitman: Contracts
In case you didn't know dgVoodoo can fix the shadows in earlier Splinter Cell titles and the multi-player modes of PT and CT
rain bow six 3 ravenshield better than swat4 and hitman 1 better than contacts. these two game pc exlusive never rleased on consoles. sprinell cell first game also ı think best one.
Chaos theory was so damn good
Good one. Honestly I'm sick of Doom 3. It's not even a 2005 game, it's from 2004. There were so many other games in 2005 that could melt your PC.
I would also add:
LOTR: Battle for the Middle Earth,
F. E. A. R.,
HOMM V,
hell yes swat 4 and chaos theory are great coop games. would love to see Witchard in there doing a swat raid with them
This video brought me back to the summer of 2004, when I upgraded my GPU to a fantastic 6600GT in order to play this game, Half-Life 2 and of course Vampire: Bloodlines!
That magnificent GPU supported me also for the next two year with titles like Quake 4, Prey and F.E.A.R., played all night long during the week-ends, during my university years! Good, old times...I miss them.
I got a 6600 gt for free few years ago still have it!
the desktop 6600gt was probably more powerful than the 6800go on this laptop. pretty competent.
My condolences.
I assume that was on a CRT?
Nothing better than Doom on a Sunday morning
This is going to be a top comment.
And we didn't even have to turn on the news!
Every God fearing Christian plays Doom on Sundays after church
I remember the part where you go outside and was amazed by the Rock graphics, played it with a 8600gt. I couldnt stop staring at those rocks at the time.
Between that and for me it was The creepy shadows. Things scurrying around and you see their shadows.
laser scan for me
I love seeing Doom 3 on this channel. Please do a DF Retro on this game and its ports!
I remember a comment from Carmack regarding Doom 3 BFG on 360/PS3 that was something like "Doom 3 was originally designed to run at 640x480 at 30 FPS" this was on PCs of 2004. The 360 and PS3 came out in 2005 & 2006, yet the BFG Edition runs at 60 FPS 720p on both! Truly fantastic was can be done with clever optimisation.
Maybe on 2002 PC's
I had Windows Vista. It's not something I'm ready to talk about.
I liked the Aero theme, and I prefer the pre-tiles windows interface. The performance hits I wasn't a fan of though.
ROFL
Something worst than Window vista, Window vista started edition (you can only use three programs)
I had it too. With service packs it had the same performance and stability as 7. So my upgrade path was XP > Vista SP2 > 7 > 8 > 8.1 > 10. All of them work just fine on adequate hardware, besides some questionable design decisions.
So like, what about Xbox tho? That's the most interesting part. Please do a DF Retro on it!
@Naoto Yah
Oh god I remember getting Doom 3 and trying to play it. So many weird things happened that week. Out the blue a prestigious university wanted me to do a specific course there - I never submitted an application to them so that was weird. On the walk back from town, game in hand, having been sold it for half it’s price and weeks early in Curry’s, we had a major thunderstorm just appear out the blue. Had to run home with lightning coming down all around. I OC’d my graphics card and made it go POP, afterwards running games fine but without any texturing at all (it recovered in time wtf). A neighbour found a famous antique coin in their garden. A relatives pub burnt down. (The following weekend because lottery stuff) My gf’s mum won £500k on a lottery card she got as a birthday gift cuz it was her birthday. All on the same day. I didn’t get to play doom 3 that day cuz that graphics card had popped. The day it came to Switch my nephew was born.
Oh and I kinda liked the game. Got a new computer not long after. Played it on medium settings. Was the moment I learnt I actually like the look of low res but with high settings. It’s how I played all following PC games before jumping ship to consoles :)
Yeah, man. Tell me about it. Don't you hate it when that stuff happens?
If you like creepy coincidences... my grandpa passed away on the day before Doom 3's release in 2004. Twelve years later, my grandma passed away on the day before Doom (2016)'s release.
I remember being blown away with the air distortion when using the rocket launcher in Doom 3
2004 was the year I saw the light, I played Unreal Tournament 2K4 and Painkiller at 60+fps and I was hooked, built my first gaming rig within a month
This needs a retest on era appropriate vanilla DOOM and Windows XP SP2. And updates to that point in time and GPU driver version.
That will tell the best story.
I remember building a pc for my friend for this game with an AMD 4200+ and an Nvidia 7800gtx. We were about 15 and blown away when we could actually look at the smoke effect without stuttering!
Has held up well for a fifteen year old game.
I'm playing it on Switch and it's great :)
Just finished it on PS4, it's so good, even after 15 years. Love the atmosphere, pacing, everything!
No it hasn’t
I remember running this on a super powerful gaming rig of the time which had an Athlon 64 3400+, Geforce 6800 GT, and 1GB of DDR ram. It ran pretty well on high settings especially since I was used to not gaming at 60fps. In fact most people were fine with 30fps in this era. Now something as low end as an Intel UHD 615 with a 5th gen core i3 would run circles around that machine.
Now we can easily run Doom 3 at 4K120 on max settings and 8xMSAA, lmao.
Just started playing this on XBSX and to see it in 4k 60fps is mesmerizing! Graphically it's obviously dated but something about the lighting engine and normal/bump mapped textures is still captivating. I also keep getting Dead Space flashbacks as I've started playing the remaster, too. Dead Space was heavily influenced by this game! There were even some curvy hallways in Dead Space where I expected a flaming skull to come flying out.
The benchmark for this game is so Iconic, I've ran it for every card since.. including my 2080 Ti. Funnily enough, you can actually crank the resolution and details so high you get sub 60fps on that mammoth card.
The game is designed around DX8, you can't expect a game that runs DX12 to be amazing at an older API as the drivers won't be optimised for it. The BFG version runs in DX9 so maybe that fairs better?
@@Loundsify I rather suspect it's because I cranked it all the way to 5k with 16x MSAA.
I remember when I first tried playing this game in 2005 (I was a little late to getting a pc at the time), I was running Pentium 4 3.6 GHZ, 2 gigs of ram, and a 256mb ATI saphire card. I remember it running this game highest settings at 1280x1024 remarkably well.
Very close to my rig from 2005! AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with XFX 6800 GT. This was an era of rapid improvement in PC gaming, so it only took 2 years for this rig to feel completely outdated. Looking at you, Crysis.
to me that rig felt outdated as soon as the xbox360 came out. the 6800gt ran xbox360 games like garbage. i remember trying to play test drive unlimited on my pc and it sucked so much.
I had the AMD Athlon 64 FX57, 3GB Ram and a XFX GTX 6800 Ultra 512 MB, Windows XP. I really enjoyed this game back in the day, happy memories.
I never played a PC game more graphically intensive than Doom 3 on my XP machines, so I never noticed.
I had a Pentium 4 at that time with an AGP Radeon X 1600 Pro 512MB and Doom 3 looked and ran pretty well at 1024x768.
I’m here for more DOOM³ content from you guys any day of the week
Folks who aint old like me have no idea how nuts the system specs recommend were when you read the box....it was like HOLLLLLY SHIT...
You needed an absolute beast to max that game back in the day
I remember getting a 6600 GT around the time Doom 3 came out and it playing very well on my Windows XP PC while looking absolutely amazing.
This was amazing brought back so many memories as I had that exact PC but with windows XP. Thanks guys
Alex invites John over for dinner
Alex: Oh good I'm hear with my digital foundry colleague and friend John
John: Yeah it's good to be here Alex
I love how I yelled "wow" when he mentioned 3GB of RAM in that laptop, as if that's even wow-worthy today, but for a 2004/2005 laptop that's genuinely absurd.
Right. I had a brand new gaming pc at the time an I think I had 2x 512 mb ram installed.
Tbf that's like having 64GB of RAM in a pc now lol
@@Loundsify I think 128 GB. 6800 GT was a 2003-2004 era GPU. We had 256-512 MB on PC back then. If you were rich, you had 1 GB. Nobody had 2 GB on PC until 2007, lmao. The fact this 2005 era laptop has 3 GB of RAM ... lmao.
I really appreciate Alex and John just playing a game and gushing about its graphical fidelity.
7:20 - Ahh seeing the Windows Vista/XP title bars and buttons just fills me with warmth and makes me so nostalgic.
Omg I was wondering if you guys were gonna make a Doom 3 video...thanks for this!
Alex, it might be that the co-op mod requires extra processing power from the hosts side.
I played this game on the first xbox, it was incredible, like riddick and hl2, doom3 showed how powerful this console was...
In the vidéo, the background music around 32mins, is it a cover from pantera (this love) ?
24:40 I think the original Painkiller also used the character models as the collision boxes too. It sounds good on paper, but in practice it could make hitting enemies frustrating; Painkiller featured some enemies with thin limbs or rib-caged chests that player projectiles could pass right through!
In Doom 3 this was less of a problem, being a slower-paced game overall, and most of the enemies were pretty chunky.
I commented on the last video saying that nobody used Vista on this era of machines for gaming because the OS was a mess at release. It was either XP 32bit ot XP 64bit.
I was running Doom 3 at 1024x768 on a Athlon 2500+ (OC'd so it was running as if it was a 3200+) on a 9800pro. The frame rate IIRC was around 40-60FPS but I was running at medium detail.
>windows vista
It should have been Windows XP.
Thanks for making these kinds of videos.
To think that this game now runs perfectly in the nintendo switch... what a time to be alive!
So fascinating how you can see the influence DOOM had within the Halo series, then, when DOOM finally went true 3D, you can almost immediately tell what a significant influence Halo had on DOOM 3. For the amount of criticism this game got at the time, it never failed to simultaneously blow my mind and absolutely frighten my poor innocent bowels out from inside of me. I have always loved how "alive" this game felt. And how, with it's little environmental stuff, they were never afraid to trap you in interesting ways, or let you take damage and waste time if you weren't being careful enough. For how linear the levels had to be, they felt dynamic and like you were a part of a much larger place and not purely running through a series of playable areas. Like you could enter through any inaccessible door and find the rest of the base to explore just the same. Obviously you couldn't, but it always felt that way to me. The level design was nearly abstract and prioritized being a genuinely fun and engaging and wonder-filled environment over being hyper-logical and unnecessarily realistic. it truly felt like the creators tried their hardest to mash together classic DOOM level design principles with the modern era. Your comments on the perfectly unified visuals were spot on. So many games nowadays are so abundantly obvious in how they were contracted out and piecemeal-ed, cobbled together by hundreds of artists who were only on the same level in the sense that they knew what they were being paid to work on a massive puzzle, but not necessarily how the pieces fit together. Like bad or phoned in voice-work with lackluster or just plain nonexistent direction.
Also, whoever was responsible for the idea of filming this video in the Co-Op mod, such a great idea. So many games, especially around this time. would have massively benefited from proper co-op implementations, even if it made no sense in relation to the overall plot of being the singular "SAVE THE WORLD" guy. If only we weren't constantly prioritizing visual vanity and performance over hardlining pure fun. No shade intended toward gorgeous games, obviously. You know who you are, and you're only that beautiful because you have no friends and you never go outside. To be clear, that comment was about single player games without co-op modes that can afford to look fantastic in part because they don't have to expend resources to render twice to four times the erm... "stuff and things." That's why I've always appreciated Halo anyhow. Co-Op may have occasionally dropped down to half the framerate, and distant pop-in was usually abundant, with anti-aliasing nowhere to be found, but those games were endless fun and highly replayable for the sacrifices they chose to make. All in the name of light beer and LAN; And accidentally tripping and falling while trying to maneuver 4 150lb screens down a flight of stairs for a weekend of trash talk. I was never rich enough to have been that unfortunate, but I imagine it happened at least once, and that is a beautiful tragedy that I wish more people had gotten to experience with their favorite games. On the side of performance, you know, from afar, who really cares about a little roughness aside from executives who think they need shiny visuals in order to sell well? People aren't playing co-op for the visuals. I understand the Q/A undertaking that would have been, and all the variables that would have had to have been considered, but I wish it would have been different, before the industry, in some dark decrepit hole somewhere, unanimously voted never to make another co-op video game ever again.
No idea where this is going or where it would have gone, but before TH-cam auto-filters this comment for having too much to say, I'll cut myself off with that healthy enough body of text. You guys really are enamoring to listen to. I appreciate that this channel exists. Makes me feel a little less insane and alone in appreciating the impossibly arduous and highly experimental work these development teams have historically created. "Wizards," if ever there were a more appropriate title. I only wish they had the foresight to have filmed, documented and made available more of their daily working lives and teams' personalities in the earlier days. I cannot get enough of those tragically condensed "making of" documentaries; What little has been made available to the public. Man does it hold me. Humble wizards that move and suffer largely in silence for the sake of art beyond the comprehension of many, occasionally even themselves. "Thinking rocks and so on" or whatever. It would blow my mind if I could even begin to get it through my skull in the first place. Alright alright, enough sap before I have to draft a dust cover and take this on tour. Sheesh.
This game and F.E.A.R and others were some of the best, sharpest and most glorious shadows for the day. I remember overclocking my Radeon X800 just to run Doom 3 and Half-life 2 and thinking this was a major game changer. If only I could tell my younger self about ray tracing. :)
40:28 Killzone used ladder animations back in 2004, really great stuff too
After some nightmares, i had this playing by my side as i slept, and had a pleasent dream about building a computer, so thanks for the inception
Painkiller guys! Such a great, forgotten FPS gem from 2004!
You guys should do some more Let's Play type videos doing co-op games. Its both fun and interesting and you guys have a good dynamic
DooM 3 is one of my favourite games ! 1st played it on og Xbox (co-op was blast) then bfg on PS3/360 and now on Ps4 ..but the best is in portable version on switch !
Great Video! I just replayed all the Doom games on Switch so this is was interesting to compare and contrast. I have a challenge for DF. Try playing Anarchy Online on older and newer hardware. Keep up the great work! :)
Every 30 seconds:
John and Alex: Ah, this games looks so good 🤤
Please get off of Windows Vista now. I can tell you from owning 3 6800GT's, Vista kills the performance of those GPU's. Please test under Windows XP as that was the OS out when those GPU's came out.
He would go on to do just that
I would like to see someone import RT support to doom 3, it already had great lighting, RT would push it over the edge
Tbf I would love someone to update or use AI upscaling for the textures, they're so low quality close up and the game is a very narrow design forcing you close to the walls that are such low quality assets by today's standards.
Vista???? WHY???!!!! I'm not even a PC gamer.... WHY??? For any reason, why?? XP or 7, there is no Vista
I enjoyed vista in its latter half
This brings me way way back man. My first PC build was 2002 with hand me down parts from my dad and older brothers at 10 years old. Black and White, SimCity, NFSU BF1942 and the first CoD eventually were the order of the day - got an AGP 6600GT with the doom 3 heatsink art back in the day as my first upgrade. I didn't have as good a CPU as this build but it was still an Athlon, last time AMD was on top except for a year or two ago. What a trip!
Nice! I've been playing a bit of the OG Xbox port of Doom 3 lately. Given that the Xbox is a Pentium III with Geforce 3 and 64 MB RAM, it's one of the cheaper ways to approximate the retro early 2000 PC experience these days...
I love these retro features. Would like to see more in the future.
2004/2005: Some of the best years of my life. Met my wife in 2003, married in 2005.
As a 42yrs. gamer.... damn... I remember having an FX 5900 bios edited to over ultra speeds and trying to game on Far Cry, Half Life 2, Doom 3. Nice to be able to mod and run games better speeds on OpenGL since the FX series was neutered for DX9. Then came my 6800GT O/C to Ultra speeds... I could finally really enjoy these games.
Was playin this in potato mode on a AthlonXP 2400+ and a Radeon 8500LE back in the days. Upgrading to a 6600GT felt like a jump to lightspeed
Love this guys, thank you!
I had to look back to the receipt as wasn't 100%, but I bought a machine with an Athlon 3800 x2 and a X800XT in Early July 2004 in anticipation of Doom 3, Half Life 2 and finally be able to play Far Cry...
Cost the thick end of £2k (God I was mental sinking that).
And then by Xmas 2005 it was already chugging when playing COD2.
CPU and GPU tech developed very quickly. Nowadays tech from 2012 will still run decent in 2021.
36:20 Nope. Not that guy. That's Elliot Swann's bodyguard (I don't remember his name). You guys were thinking of Sergeant Kelly/Sabaoth.
I remember my mind being blown when it was said this game supported a 512MB graphics card.
I think all the games mentioned would be great to look at. Chronicles of Riddick for sure and F.E.A.R. are the top two on my list. Actually played Riddick on the Xbox. Still play F.E.A.R. from time to time on PC. Looks fantastic and the gameplay and AI put most any modern FPS to shame. Plus a sweet benchmark test.
This is a great video, and definitely a blast from the past. In 2004 I was using an overclocked Athlon XP 2800+ and onboard geforce 4mx graphics. Crazy to think that nvidia was a partner of AMD for a bit there. I upgraded by adding discrete graphics cards for a few years and had to replace the motherboard twice and the power supply once (hooray for the capacitor plague =\) before finally moving on to a new system around 2009. Thanks for covering this type of older hardware, it's always fun to look back and see what we had then and how well it does or doesn't hold up.
I still remember when AMD was still ATI, and helped Nintendo on creating the GameCube graphics hardware... Nowadays they're partnered with NVidia for the Switch's gfx
@@thestripedmenace AMD was never ATI. They bought ATI.
I got this game on my Birthday in 05, but it was also on the same day that family decided to surprise me with an LCD that replaced the trinitron my family threw out, because they thought the new monitor was "better." Was a bitterswneet experience
Sir, do you have a minute to listen about the superior Windows 2000?
There is one thing that I think 2000 has above all other OSes, and that is its absolute rock solid stability, plus it ran a little leaner than XP (somehow). It didn't exactly look pretty and it was the first version to completely drop DOS support, but holy balls did it keep on trucking no matter what you threw at it.
My school was still running Windows 2000 when I left school in 2006.
I ran this for the first time on a Geforce 4 MX! :)
Ran like shit, probably bellow 30 FPS at 1024*768, but I still loved every minute of the game. Later on I updated to a ATI Radeon x300, and immediately replayed Doom 3 and Far Cry.
Also, everyone back in 2004 was running Windows XP, 64bit OS's werent even a thing yet, since windows xp 64 only came out in 2005.
And I don't necessarily like that you ran this on a 6800GT, only the rich people would have access to it, it's like buying a 2080ti right now, so... yeah, no wonder Doom 3 is running at 60fps here. Running it on a 5 series would probably be a bit more realistic if you really wanted to emulate the experience that most people had in 2004.
My first PC build was back in 2007-2008, I believe. It was a Core 2 Duo E7200 (crazy value for the money then!), 2GB DDR2-800 RAM, 250GB hard drive, and ATI HD 3870 2GB. Ran everything like a champ, from WoW to UT2004 and emulators. I sold it to one of my good friends when I left for college so he could play WoW on it. Would have killed for an SSD at the time, but you were looking at several hundred dollars for a paltry 60-120GB.
I would love to see a full on DF Retro on DOOM 3! Make it happen. Thank you guys! great video
Love this game. What I would give to have the ease of use of the BFG edition without them messing with the shadows and flashlight.
Install the Doom 3 Redux mod and it's around as easy to use.
Fan mods gave me playing it at 1080p144hz without bfg. On Windows 10. Its the way to go, especially since I was always into playing games a couple years older at higher framerates on a CRT anyway.
This particular video is too underrated.
If i rembemer correctly, I used Win 2k SP4 because it was even lighter than XP.
Alex, time to install XP or else you'd still testing games in handicapped mode.
I had that Sager back in the day, I bought it from PCTorque in I believe 2004. I don't think that company is around anymore. They didn't refer to it as a notebook or laptop, but rather, a "desktop replacement" or DTR. I guess due to the fact it only lasted 30-40 minutes on a full battery charge and was too heavy to be truly portable. It was a super problematic machine, at least for me. It used to break about once a year, and I had to ship it back to get the motherboard replaced. Even with all those fans, the heat generated by the Pentium 4 used to eventually cause components to fail.
You mention that it can be upgraded from a 6800 Go to a 7800 Go. While true, at least for the model I had, due to some kind of power limitations with respect to the motherboard, you couldn't upgrade without a motherboard swap. I learned this the hard way. I ended up getting the upgrade to prolong the machine, and I spent way more than I wanted to due to added cost of a new motherboard (again). Including the upgraded motherboard and the few failures, I'd probably had 3 motherboards in that thing. The last time it failed, around 2008 I believe, I abandoned it. It was just too costly to fix, and it was hurting my workflow to not have a computer for 3 weeks while it was being serviced every time the motherboard failed. I ended up building a cheap desktop PC to replace it. Despite the massive amounts of grief and money that unit cost me, I will still always remember it fondly. Probably because it was the first computer I ever bought with my own money-- I think I dropped a few years worth of savings on it.
I had just built a new PC with 2 6800 ultra’s in sli and this came free with the cards. This game made an amazing tech demo for the cards
Doom 3 contains great awsome moments never seen in any other game
2 games from 2004-5 I remember fondly are Prey, and Republic Commando. RP is probably one of my all time favourite shooters. Another one, Dark Messiah from 2006, it was made with the source engine. GTA San Andreas...Need For Speed Underground 2...those games were so amazing!
Was running D3 on a A64 3500+, 1GB RAM, 256MB 6800GT. Way above its required spec and ran like a dream - a while before the first S939 dual-core consumer CPU's! Great game, still stands up today.
PS: On XP, you would be hitting 60 frames easy on that desktop build.
Brilliant video! Can't wait for Chronicles Of Riddick, one of my favourite game + franchise & well ahead of its time.
Perhaps you guys could cover Tribes: Vengeance, Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake 4, Prey - same engines, different/ further enhancements/ utilisation of engines. Oh & perhaps Warhammer 40,000 Dawn Of War?
2004.... Rome Total War, Halo 2, Half-Life 2, Doom 3, Far Cry, Chronicles of Riddick, GTA San Andreas, Need For Speed: Underground 2, Painkiller, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War, The Sims 2...
Killzone
This game was so ahead of its time in graphics. It looks better than even a lot of games from like 2009/2010.
I really do miss that feeling of getting a brand new over the top PC back in 2009, and was able to run Doom 3 on Ultra. All my other friends were on older machines kinda like the one in this video, and they could barely hold 60fps on High. The only thing that ever came close was building another over the top PC for VR gaming this year, and it completely trampled RDR2 on Vanilla max settings (no advanced settings).
When I bought my first gaming pc back then, I opted for a Athlon X2 which made me save enough to buy a 8600GT gpu with 512 MB Vram. Quake 4, FEAR, Gears of War and Doom 3 ran great at 1024x768 while Crysis did the most pounding forcing me to run it at 20-30 fps at 800x600.
What a sick video, really cool research
I love Doom 3. Yes, it's different than the others, and yes, it has some issues, but it it accomplishes what it was setting out to do perfectly for me. and ... THAT SOUND DESIGN!!
I remember buying a 6800 Ultra 512MB just to switch doom up to ultra settings. Thanks for the vid!
My gaming rig in 2005 contained a geforce 6600gt, I remember getting a game called Hard Boiled, Quite a good Far Cry clone. But the best was Battlefield 2, Man I loved the multiplayer on that one.
Love the game and it crushed my PC when it first came out. Now I can play it on my work laptop with a i5 and Intel HD lol.
I'd love to watch a full DF Retro episode about Doom 3! Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 were two landmark games of that time...they were truly ahead of their time visually. At least comparing them to what consoles were doing. Only the Xbox had a version...and it was a noticeable downgrade compared to the PC version.
Mine and my parents' PCs were both socket 462 back then - one day when I knew they'd be out all day, I swapped my Duron 1200 with my dad's Athlon XP 1800+, I saw a noticeable Doom 3 FPS increase with my Geforce 4 Ti
Very nice video. I know it is unlikely that the df guys still read the comments above such old videos but case i am lucky I have a question. I missed Doom 3 back because my PC was not up to the task. Which version would you consider the best to play Doom 3 the first time on PC. The original 2004 release or the BFG Version?
Great video! I hope one day you'll do a full coverage of the original Far Cry, that was indeed one heck of a game when it came out!
Great video. If you tweak the Doom 3 config file you can get a lot of fps and less drops
I loved this. I cant believe how I missed this co-op.
I remember Windows Vista getting lambasted when it came out but I didn't quite understand why. This is such a damning glimpse into a few of that OS's shortcomings!
During that era I was playing Doom 3 using an Athlon 64 3200+ socket 754, 2 gigs of ram, & a vanilla Geforce 6800. Good times.
My current rig is a modest 6700k @ 4.6ghz, 32Gb ram, & GTX 1080 Ti.
You could do with a new PC shortly that 6700k will hold you back on that card.
Pentium 4 + 6800 GO (laptop) on XP beats Athlon X2 + 6800GT on Vista X64