Add an Outlet to an Existing Circuit
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- In this video, I install two new outlets in a laundry room by tapping into an existing circuit.
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When testing power to find the correct breaker, always test top and bottom receptacle. If you test a circuit and it’s not showing power, it may be controlled by a wall switch in the room that is turned off, but one of the receptacles can still be dedicated hot.
Trust me just test top and bottom, before proceeding.
Good tip! Thanks.
You can’t do it that way… you need a junction box… when the older outlet up is being used that will complete the circuit and not reach to the new one… which means the circuit closure at the old outlet will not let the electricity make a piggy back circuit on the new one… and the reason of that is because the circuit is already closed at the old outlet…
Please for the love of god do more electrical research before touching any circuit . Because what you just said is completely false and obvious you have little to no electrical experience with outlets
I was thinking the same thing while watching the video. I'm just thinking with common sense.
@mrorganic13 no that's also how they did kitchens in north America before 20amp. As in 2 15 amp breakers going into 1 outlet which I guess reduces the amperage big time. Something like that anyway, I'm not an electrician just a guy who got stumped a few weeks ago 😂
The 99 dislikes must be from local electricians that just lost easy money bc of this great vid. Thanks for the video, simple and thorough!
I see I see, you sure it wasn't the fact he called a White Claw a Beer?
@@suburbancasualty i was just about to say this lmfao.. was gonna say those dis-likes were probably from him drinking white claw hahaha.
Maybe for some electricians but not all.
I think it’s great that people post DIY’s, but it must be code compliant and most importantly it must be safe for the homeowner to do it, less he burns down his house and possibly kills someone.
So I think it’s important to point out failures so that they can redo the video or delete it.
Just be safe is all I ask. ✌️
It’s not about losing money, electricians are licensed for a reason! People need to understand that the simplest mistakes can make the house burn down. This guy said he’s at a friends house doing this work, if the house burns down because of it, this guy is liable.
@@suburbancasualty damnit I was gonna say that lol
Beer after completion is code in most states.
Yes!!
Judging by the work found around here, also before and during the job.
@@handydadtv so if I do a middle of the run like this, say I am add a top receptacle for a mounted tv, and I wanted to run a middle receptacle behind a soundbar, is it necessary to connect both top and bottom outlets on the middle receptacle?
@JannaOk. So how would I do it?
@Joe - You connect the soundbar outlet to the existing outlet, then connect the TV outlet to the soundbar outlet.
That metal box is missing a connector, the wire is rubbing against the sharp edge.
@@wojtek-33
Unless you live in an earthquake zone. I think his point is that it's not up to code. Easily fixed with a plastic fitting. The box should have a ground wire attached to it as well. And a kitchen normally has 20 amp circuits to receptacles.
Thank you so much for the video, I'm a female senior and my first time in adding an extension to an outlet and this was just want I was looking for. Perfect!!!!
You got this!
I love the fact that you mention connecting wires to the screws as opposed to making the 'push in' connection because "that's the way my dad taught me". Few things are more important than the lessons of a father. Cheers!
Thanks 😊
You do realize he kept the backstabbed wires in the outlet right?
No, it's his pronunciation of the word "cabinet". It's like saying the "H" in "Cool Whip"
I think I would have pig-tailed the wires. But, other than that, great video!
@@juliangarza6274 can you put both sets of wires on the screws? I'm genuinely asking before I attempt this.
Thank you, The explanation of the circuit breaker to the wire gauge was very helpful.
I agree 👍
Appreciate that you slowed down to explain your thought process. Thanks, very informative
Thanks 😊
I'm a new follower just because he did that. Thanks
This is a project I need to do and while I knew in theory what all needed to be done, I'm glad I saw this video. Not only did it give me piece of mind, but it also informed me of those little twist thingies for the ground. Thanks alot, HandyDad!
My pleasure! Good luck!
In 10 years ill be explaining this to my boy and I'll be like "You could use the pressing connectors and stick the wires in the back, ill use the screws on the side because some guy on youtube taught me and... thats what I do!"
Lol. I would be honored.
better reason is that the back connections are known to degrade over time. Believe it or not wires actually vibrate from power going through it.
3:20 Legend has it that the piece of sheet rock is still inside in between the walls
🤣
Really , your worried about a piece of drywall between the walls.?
You're supposed to write a message on that. A riddle, a joke, a fake treasure map... something for the next guy
You just have me a whole lotta hope that when I get ready to add 2 outlets myself, it’ll be cake. It’s not even close to the top of my list, but I’m certainly going to get it done and this video seriously just made it seem doable, even to an extreme novice such as myself. Thanks HandyDad
It is doable, but I definitely recommend having a mentor watch you do your first outlet. My dad was my mentor.
One thing I would have explained for those not very familiar with wiring is the correct way to wrap the wire around the screw.
Good video👍
Good point. An idea for a new video! I make an L or J to wrap over the screw in the direction it tightens.
@@handydadtv You should close the loop of the wire once around the electrical screw, use a pair of needle nose pliers..
I agree, the connection looked pretty loose.
I have never heard of running wire over a stud between the stud and the sheet rock. That sounds like a good way to run a nail through a wire.
Well, the correct way to do it would be to notch the stud and then put a nail stop plate over top of the wire sitting in the notch before patching over. This protects it from some poor sap who later tries to drill/nail in that location.
Notching a stud is also a bad idea. You drill a small hole through the stud to run the wire. Notching it would resemble too much of the stud.
@@VampireOnline No, notching is perfectly allowed, as long as you don't notch too deep. For a load bearing wall, you're only allowed to notch 25% of the width of the stud. For a 2x4 wall that gives you a notch of 7/8 of an inch, which is way more than you actually need. A 1/2 inch deep notch should be more than enough to run a flat 14/2 NM cable under the plate.
Drilling a hole in the center of the stud is also okay, assuming the hole is small enough, but it requires removing way more drywall to get a drill or flexible bit in the right spot to get a straight hole in the center of the stud.
I just wrote the same thing. Thanks for telling everybody how to electrocute the next homeowner. No Common sense is a killer.
Actually I thought that was pretty ingenious. Great video
I’m a handy man and a videographer. This video is superb. Straight to the point, and the shots show the actual process step by step. Thank you good sir!
Thanks so much
I used your video to add an outlet in my house and things went wrong almost immediately! Couldn't saw the hole in my drywall and my studfinder was freaking out. Turned out the wall was original to the house and full of layers of wood and masonry! Once I cut the hole and got it thin enough for the flanges on the old work box, it was smooth sailing! Thanks for a great tutorial.
Thank you! Gonna do this myself this weekend, put a new outlet for a vacuum base in the closet above the basement workshop outlet. This will be my first solo electrical job and I’m looking forward to. Might have a white claw mango too to celebrate
You got this!
Thank you very much for this video. I followed your extremely thorough instructions and was able to tap into an existing socket on one side of a wall to add another socket on the opposite side of the wall. It went flawlessly. Thank goodness for TH-cam videos like this.
Glad it went well! Thanks for the comment!
Check the load on the circuit you’re coming off of before adding more outlets.
How many are you allowed to run
Dallas I was thinking about that no telling what tht lil fridge will do
Cheap Seats 12 outlets per circuit.
How do you check that? I’m planning on mounting a TV and need a outlet moved.
Great video. You even talked about the correct wire gage to use for 15 or 20 amp circuit breakers. Very helpful!
Thanks. Glad it was helpful.
Any suggestions if the outlet you're running off of is in the middle of the run, and so both connections on the side of the receptacle are already being used? Or is it a no-no to add a line to the middle of the run?
You can’t always find the end of the run. I happened to get lucky. The process is the same but you’ll either pigtail all the wires and connect to the existing outlet, or connect your new wire to an empty set of screws or use the press-in connectors on the back of the existing outlet.
I do this daily but can't say I've seen a receptacle actually inside a panel like that o.O
Talk about best case scenario right there. Lol
You can run 12 gauge wire on a 15 amp circuit but you can't use 14 gauge wire on a 20 amp circuit
Yes, bigger is always okay. Good point.
Unless of course you were the dipshit that wired my house. You should see the shit I got into when I bought this place. Every outlet in the place was on a 20A breaker every wire in the house has been 14/2. I found after moving the dryer location that the ground had been completely removed from the wire. The list goes on....
No permit needed? You can do any electrical work or plumbing in your OWNER OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY HOME in NJ. Permits and inspections are required for any NEW work and some replacement work like water heaters,A/C units. Check with the town if you are unsure of what needs a permit.
Depending on where you live codes dictate that everything must be run in 12 AWG. This regardless of a 15 amp breaker or 20 amp breaker.
Where is this at that you have to run 12 AWG for 15 amp circuit.
I was taught this too. 12 AWG for residential electrical outlet circuits and 14AWG for most lighting. The reasoning behind it being that someone down the road may put a 20 amp breaker on that circuit. Also I was taught never to use the device for continuity so the power should come into the box and then have a pigtail for the outlet. The wire going to the next box is connected to the incoming wire at the same point where the pigtail is connected. That way if the device fails you don't lose power to everything downstream.
What happened to the grommet in the metal box? 😝😂
If you had to go past the stud on the right, you need to notch the drywall AND the stud. Then put a nail plate over the notch, to protect the Romex from nails and screws in the future. This is also a NEC code requirement.
Perhaps, but I’ve never seen anyone do it that way in a retrofit situation.
You could also get one of those cylindrical things with that spiral pattern on the side, you attach it to some kinda tool, then it spins around and it makes a circular opening in the stud, don't know what all those things are called.
Michael M a drill bit? Auger bit?
I’ll let the White claw pass because this video was so helpful. Nice work Handy Dad.
Looks like you don't have a wire clamp installed on the hole where wires go through the metal electrical box.
There wasn't one installed before, but he should have installed a pop-in bushing
Also the metal box needs to be grounded.
Matthew Savage that ground screw next to the receptacle is a way to bond (ground) the electronics in the cabinet.
At end of his video he stated that if he want to put outlet on other side of stud, he would JUST. Cut drywall out and run Rome’s over stud and then patch drywall. WRONG! If he were to do that and then for some reason some put a small nail or tack or something to hang something in that location and hits that romex they could electrocute themselves. A hole should be drill to get wire thru the stud
They sell a steel plate to cover the wire at the notch. This is a totally acceptable solution as long as you install the plate.
Awesome video! I just needed to run 1 outlet in the same cavity as one existed (but on the other side of the wall), so basically exactly this video, and knew it couldn't be too hard. You made the job so easy for me and saved an electrician bill! Thanks a bunch- That beer is on me!
Thanks 😊
White claw mango?!?! That's not a beer! 😂 Nice job with the wiring. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah 🤷🏻♂️
Great video. Speaks clearly, to the point, tells you exactly what you need to know, actually covers everything you really need to know for adding a plug to an existing one.
Glad it was helpful!
“And it’s just the way my Dad taught me, so that’s what I do!” I hope my sons grow up with that sort of confidence. Thanks for the video!
Thanks so much 😊
Just added another socket, thanks! I even purchased the wire strippers & everything from your links
Thanks!
Do you mind pointing me to those links ? I want to buy them too but dont seem to find the links now
They are in the video description.
FYI the black wire is the hot one and the white one is the neutral wire which you can check with a meter. Sometimes you can't see the colors and you then have to figure out which is which or you may get a real jolt out of it and not a funny one at that.
Thanks! this is what I want to accomplish with my project 👍
Glad it was helpful
cool video buddy thanks
Thanks
AIN’T NO LAWS WHEN YOU’RE DRINKING CLAWS
No laws or codes when you ignore them either I guess.
you did wrong on the first outlet connection .you should use the pigtail
Nope, he didn't do anything wrong. He did it exactly right. And that, is why us electricians are and forever will be in business.
I ain't a pro, but 'gouging the sheetrock' to navigate a stud is absolutely wrong. And how about a wire clamp on hole in the metal box?
I was looking for this comment. He'd have to at least put a metal plate over the "gouge"...
Yes of course
I had not added a receptacle for a while and was looking for a "refresher course." This 100% filled the bill. Thank you for the clear video and to-the-point narration. 5/5
Thanks so much 👍🏻
nicely done learn something new. Pass it on.
You had me until the white claw.
Outstanding instructional video! Well done. This gives me confidence to try this on my own
Thanks 😊
Great video man. Very much appreciate the information.
Instead of gouging the Sheetrock, could you drill a hole in the stud?
Yes, if you can get to it.
Howell, NJ! Not too far from me in brick!
Great video. You had me all the way until White Claw. 🤣
Haha that choice definitely polarizes the audience. ;)
Did you not put a connector on the Romex, when it entered into the metal box? Not even a plastic push-in bushing? Not NEC code compliant at all !! I know there wasn't one there before, but come on, show how to do it right ....
Guilty
Good video. Thanks for the information on what gauge wire to use with 15 or 20 amp breaker. Big help. Also appreciate the help on the special ground plastic screw to join 2 ground wires into one. Great video. 👍👊
Thanks so much
@@handydadtv your welcome
Exactly my next project for my basement, thanks for the good info!
Super helpful!!! Thank you! I am doing this same process so thanks again for making it so straight forward. I do have one question tho… This my be because this building is old but the outlet that I am chaining from has no ground wire coming to it, what should I do with the ground wire in the 12/2 I bought?
I’d recommend you start rewiring that house starting with the circuit where you want to add the outlet. Otherwise, I don’t recommend any modifications to wiring that old.
@@handydadtv Copy that! Thanks again!
Update!!! I talked to an electrician friend and he said the plug was grounded but just in a different way, so I just attached the ground to the green screw on both outlets! AND IT WORKED! Like a charm! I wish you could see it. My wife thinks I’m Superman! We can finally charge our vacuum in our closet! Thanks man!!!
Thanks for letting me know! Congrats!
I’m just stating what an electrical inspector would fail me for if was to do that
Which part?
Definitely not a beer sir. JK, thank you for the videos!
Don’t judge 😉
As an extra safety precaution, especially when you're working with a metal box/bare ground wire, just wrap some electrical tape around the plug when you're done wiring. There's bits of copper showing on your hot and neutral connection points, as well as the screws themselves. If any metal touches them you'll be getting at the very least a short. Just take the extra 10 seconds and wrap some tape around the plug.
Overkill
I did this for most of the new light switches and plugs I installed recently per the advice of Jeff from Home Renovation DIY. I forgot to do it on some of them 😂.
why use wire nuts ? don't you have wago clamps in america ? wtf
We have both.
why is the ground cable exposed like that ? O_x holy shit
Are you in another country? Grounds are always bare copper in North America.
Great video! others i've watched didn't mention the wire type differences based on the breaker amps, great bit of info!
Thanks
Can I add an outlet like this, but to an existing outlet that is half hot? The existing outlet, half is controlled by a switch and the other half is always on/hot. I want to add a new outlet to connect to the hot half of the existing outlet. Can I do this?
Yes you just need to splice it with the always-on black wire.
Good Video
@ 4.30 when you Steel the Power from the Telecomunications Outlet - Instead of Tapping Directly to the Receptical can you use a wire nut ( or Push in Tie ) , I seen some guts tie all the Blacks, Whites and Gnds together and use a Short Wire to the Receptical ?
That would be called a pig tail.
I'm unclear on how you secured the blue outlet box. I saw the screws but what did you screw into to hold the box firmly in the wall?
It’s called an old work box and it has ears that flip out to grip the drywall. Watch this th-cam.com/video/klL8XhKMNT8/w-d-xo.html
I think this was a god idea. The bedroom, you never know what demand it may need down the road. Also. With the fridge would it be a good idea to use an afci dedicated breaker?
Thanks for the comment.
Excellent video! Thank you. But, lose the White Claw LOL.
I’m not a beer drinker. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you so much for sharing, you did a great job explaining everything!!
Thank you 😊
Good video! All except the running the wire over the stud and under the sheetrock part ... enjoyed the burp. Thanks!
Lol I didn’t notice a burp! So unprofessional.
Perfection.. And I've been calling them Gang or Handy Boxes.
A handy box, to me, is a metal junction box.
I'm not sure if someone asked this, but on the receptacle that is feeding the power (about 4:00 in) in, is it installed with the backstab method? What if it was side wired - could you still get power from it? Or would you set up the pigtail system instead? I think you have another video with the pigtail setup so I'm wondering which one to follow. Thank you - your videos are great! I'm learning a lot. :-)
I generally don’t use backstab connections. This video shows how to side-wire or pigtail:
th-cam.com/video/-WufbstcvRw/w-d-xo.html
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Very good video with exception of the gouge out the drywall and tape over it. That would be unsafe and a code violation unless you went to middle of stud. Also a suggestion. Get yourself a small box and some painters tape. Put a half lap of tape on one side of the box. Now stick the box under the location you are going to cut the drywall. No cleanup on the floor or counter required!
Learned something today! Win-Win
Mission accomplished
Thanks for the vid. Wire gauge explanation was a ➕ !
Thanks for your video
You're awesome, much respect from Livingston
Thanks 😊
Livingston, Montana?
He just does his technique wrong. Uses knife down the whole sheathing which could damage the insulated wires , also the holes in the back of the receptacle shouldn’t be used for the conductors although they say it’s ok it is unsafe especially with exposed copper.
I do what I was taught and it’s been fine all my life.
Use a licensed electrician people! Cute that he learned that from dad and not from a master electrician. Gouging the Sheetrock is NEVER acceptable and 14 gauge wire for receptacles is a code violation regardless of the breaker size.
What code are you speaking of? Wasn't taught that in my electrical classes. I can check the NEC when I'm cleared to go back to the office after this quarantine is over.
Zach Harmon How is #14 on a 15 ampere breaker a code violation? It may be illegal by a local rule as the town near me is. But not NEC illegal.
Zach Harmon yea, not true sport.
Says the licensed electrician...
Absolutely excellent presentation, clean, concise and a little funny. Thank you good job!
My pleasure. Thanks for the comment.
@@handydadtv where did you get the ground wire connector cap from?
You can get them locally or online. Just look for “ground wire nut”.
@@handydadtv Thanks man
You lucky bastard I wish I can have a beer! Your excused
I found this video so helpful however i was wondering if you could make a special video of a project that a friend and i want to make using a thick extension cord installed into a junction boxed with a wall outlet on it and then next to it a little bit of thick extension cord into another junction box to install a circuit breaker into the junction box and then will put a switch plate that is fully covered up with 2 screws that you have to unscrew to reset the circuit breaker if ever tripped. I wanted to know how to wire that so we can install a 15 amp circuit breaker to a 15 amp wall outlet receptacle. Could you please make a video on that?
No, just buy an extension cord with a built in circuit breaker.
Good video 👍👍
Thanks
2 No-Nos here. First of all, never use a dedicated circuit such as the one intended for communications, especially when you have a motor load such as a compressor. Though it's a small fridge, in still has a reasonable level of in-rush current. A motor circuit should always be dedicated. Code fail! There was no cable connector in tha box and he didn't ad one. Kudos to using the screw terminals. Push-ins make a very poor connection.
I’ll give you that I didn’t fix the missing grommet, but I disagree that every device with a motor load requires a dedicated circuit or it’s a code violation.
Ok now I don’t mean to come across as a knob, but genuine question from a UK based Electrician; why don’t you sleeve your earth (ground) wires in the US?
I don’t know the history.
Outstanding video....However, I bet all the dislikes are for the White Claw alone....lol
True. Beer drinkers are so judgmental.
"that's just the way my dad taught me" *light chuckle followed by uncontrolled sobbing*
But really, great video
We are all victims of our upbringing.
Was the white claw warm or you had the fridge plugged in somewhere else while working? :D... Great video. Thanks for the refresher.
There was time in between.
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Hi sir i would like to learn from you sir
This is exactly what I need to do! But, I missed it in the video. How did you wire the 2nd outlet? Did you get that from the other side of the wall, or are they all connected? I didn’t see extra romex in the network cable box. Thanks!
This updated video may be clearer. But adding two outlets is the same as adding one outlet twice. You just repeat the process.
th-cam.com/video/-WufbstcvRw/w-d-xo.html
Hi! I have not done electrical work before. Watching this video, I thought you were adding the counter outlet first, but as the video progressed it showed the fridge outlet was completed then you plated the counter. I’m confused, however, I think you ran new wire from the OnQ to the counter, then more wire from the counter down to the fridge… or?
Secondly, I need to add an outlet for a kitchen refrigerator, can that outlet be on the same series as the counter outlets?
It’s always best to put the fridge on its own circuit. In fact, it’s code these days. But older homes rarely have dedicated circuits for anything.
Sorry it wasn’t clear, but adding two outlets is just like adding one outlet twice.
This video explains better:
th-cam.com/video/-WufbstcvRw/w-d-xo.html
I used the connectors to jump wire to other outlet on back side. I used new plug in outlets. I have power on one side and nothing on the other. It should have been simple but I don't know.
Please call an electrician or handyman.
Question for you... is there a problem with having too much energy being pulled from one circuit? You've got a 15 amp circuit, added 2 new outlets to it. What's to keep the circuit from constantly tripping?
Outlet don’t use any energy. It all depends on how much is plugged into them.
Right, I meant how would you calculate how many outlets can be “spliced” off one circuit but I did look it up elsewhere... I liked the video. Thanks
I found the answer. Technically, you can have as many outlets as you want on one breaker. However, generally you should limit it to 8 outlets per 15 amp breaker or about 1 outlet per 1.5 amps.
Thanks for the follow-up!
Great video! Just put in a couple of outlets in my garage! However, White Claw Mango?? 😂
Don’t judge
You don't have to run it in conduit?
Not in New Jersey
Love it
Ummm... if there is going to be a refrigerator on this circuit, you should have taken out the wires on that communication box receptacle in the quick connect and refastened them to a screw. A good idea would be to wrap the connectors with vinyl tape.
Thanks for the feedback
Good job I enjoyed watching it
Thanks
If an outlet is wired for 15 volts(with the 14 wire), then can you still just switch out the breaker from 15 to 20 and have it still work with no issues?
You mean 15 amps, not volts.
14 gauge wire is only rated for 15 amp circuits. You can’t just increase the size of the breaker without rewiring the circuit. The wire will get too hot and start a fire.
Thanks for the info
I hook up a radio and up the volume when I look for the breaker or fuse in my house. When the radio goes silent I know I have found the circuit. A lamp also does the same thing. I put it by the clothes shoot to the basement where the fuses and breakers are and when the light goes out I know I found it. I figure there is only so many gizmos that I guy really needs to purchase when I can accomplish the same thing without buying a specialty device. A good long extension cord for the lamp and radio is used also.
Smart man 👍🏻