Talking Down Darth Jadus - Rare Outcome (SWTOR)

[@Finalhellmaster]

A blind, deaf comatose lobotomy patient would feel those negotiation skills!

[@Straswa]

Haha Darth Baras!

[@darthmeta6445]

I can feel your ang- oh, too late.

[@LeroyJ12]

lmao

[@TemplarBlonic]

The amount of effort BioWare put into the Imperial Agent story never ceases to amaze me. I didn’t even know this was a thing!

[@generalerica4123]

Yeah, funnily enough its the only story that I genuinely like.
Ive spent years playing nothing but force users, and it took me until last October to touch the Imperial Agent in Pursuit of becoming a Legendary Player, and it turns out its absolutely incredible.

[@benjaminbierley2074]

@@generalerica4123 Even years later people are still discovering new facets of the imperial agent story, including hidden little story moments in the later expansion that no other class gets, and only accessible by making certain choices...IE even a small degree making your choices in the main story mean something. Agent story also plays incredibly well with the story direction of the more recent expansions.

[@genericdolphin9242]

Imperial agent story is like almost on the level of kotor 1 which honestly shocked me when I played got to this section and actually thought of my choices instead of spamming 1 for good character and 3 for bad characters.

[@jonathonpolk3592]

Yeah I never knew this was an option either. I like it.
As for the overall storyline, I thought it was good up until the end. The whole secret cabal plotline was a great concept that kinda fell flat at the end. Great idea with poor execution.

[@thegoat2959]

@@jonathonpolk3592 Finally i feel the same way as you. The Belsavis, Voss and Corellia arent really great imo. But Chapters 1 and 2 are perfection in my opinion.

[@Hironidin]

Jadus: I’m gonna kill you!
Voice in ear: Stop it man he’s really gonna ducking kill you!!
Cipher: Go ahead and kill me then.
Jadus: Ok man sorry, here’s my car keys and all my stuff. I’m just gonna leave…. Don’t chase me ok.
I’ve never seen such a hard 180

[@kadesjunkdrawer2233]

He was bluffing about killing him

[@historytank5673]

Also think about it, if you were a paranoid sith and some “weakling” had the balls to dear you to kill him, you’d suspect they’d have the power to challenge you.

[@BaronVonHoovy]

Jadus himself already admitted to underestimating the Agent, and was in a disadvantageous position because the best outcome he could hope for if he didn't get the codes still ultimately spelled failure for his plan. So he was bluffing to try to intimidate the Agent into standing down and giving him the codes. When the Agent calls his bluff, he abandons the pretense, as it's pointless to continue posturing and blustering because he's lost and he knows it.

[@wheelyjon]

How does that even work as a persuasive technique he literally did just go oh well I give up there wasn't even the smallest team to recalculation or frustration it was a bit lately illusive man right at the end of Mass Effect 3

[@historytank5673]

@@wheelyjon becouse he even (subtly) admits that he’s plan fails if you don’t hand codes over. Notice how he questions your willingness to sacrifice your self

[@Fishpasta4]

Hopefully there won't be any more Rouge Dark Council Members
Meanwhile
Baras: "Hehehe Voice of the Emperor go burrrr"

[@AA-jp9cj]

But that part although cool made no sense. Emperor's Voice literally speaks with the Emperor's voice. Voice tone, power etc. No one apart from Vowrawn noticed that?

[@olafgurke4699]

Hopefully there won't be any more Rouge Dark Council Members
Meanwhile
Thanaton: Aaargh! Former Slave now Lord goes brrr!

[@MarcLombart]

What do you have against rouge? I think it's a nice colour.

[@rivenoak]

is there a canon timeline about what happens when ?

[@swiftstrike4044]

@@AA-jp9cj Baras went unquestioned because he had blackmail on several of his enemies on the council, some of them were his allies/believed him, or were apathetic to his manipulations and were doing their own thing regardless.

[@Boringspy]

Unfortunately for you jadus, my ally caselock has come online

[@strangegaming88]

LMAO

[@blingwraith6951]

Caselock coming in clutch

[@The_M4ze]

Cipher Nine: *Literally crapping his cybernetic pants* Then kill me
Jadus: Whoa, ok I can see you're serious I'm just gonna leave now
Later
Watcher Two: You talked down a member of the dark council!
Cipher Nine: I never want to do that again!

[@The_M4ze]

@Joe A bit yes

[@MultiLimpet]

That whole thing took brass agent.
Well 90% of my body is metal.

[@alexreznov45]

I haven't watched speech skills so powerful since a courier visited Hoover Dam.

[@Mister_BIack]

Kaliyo: "Glad I could help."
Me: "You tried to attack him, got subdued by one handmovement and just froze there but thanks for the assist."

[@bestintheworld568]

Jadus: “I will rule the galaxy!”
Agent: “No you won’t.”
Jadus: “Okay sorry have a nice day.”

[@Aura_baby]

I remember stumbling on this ending by sheer luck and a commitment to playing a character that would rather bluff and deceive his way through an opponent than fight them.
Great campaign hands down.

[@lordhelmchen3154]

This is my favourite conversation in the whole base game, out of all the 8 campaigns. Also my "canon" choice of how I like my agent (a smart talker who is patriotic to the Empire but still wants some change, basically the average Admiral Thrawn-clone :D).
Also the scene directly after this was always so badass and nice to me, Cipher 9 and Watcher 2 standing on the bridge of the huge battleship with full control of it after a inredibly clean victory, having earned a short rest from all the troubles of the rest of the Empire. Especially with the ironic partly hopeful, partly pessimistic "I don't suppose we can keep this ship for ourselves, can we?" (or something like this).

[@JabamiLain]

That was my idea for the imperial agent too.

[@kurokitsune5743]

100% yes
I've just got this outcome with my spying-for-Accendancy chiss agent! :D
She's basically female Thrawn
I didn't even know that this outcome exists

[@twistednwarped314]

Man's can teleport. Ppl really underestimate him

[@olafgurke4699]

Phase Jumping goes brrrt.

[@loleo123]

Darth jadus looks LITERALLY just like my Sith Inquisitor... So when I saw him in the story, I was like "Bruh, It's treason then!"

[@kreigguardsman3355]

This shows what happens when BIoWare is given time to make a decent storyline

[@vlads3283]

3:23 That was the moment I knew that Jadus was well aware of Baras and his schemes in dealing with the Emperor.

[@garywhite5641]

Who wrote this masterpiece? This is the best battle of wits I've seen since The Princess Bride!

[@Anetron1]

Alexander Freed is the writer of the Agent story. He left Bioware years ago but came back briefly to write the Kaliyo chapter in KOTFE.

[@CondemnedInformer]

Honestly, I wish all the classes were as fleshed out as the agent's. I didn't even know you could do that. That is true narrative replay-ability.

[@fableshearth2457]

*One lone man charges the cybernetics highly trained Imperial Agent*
The NPCs: Look out!

[@lasonris8934]

That’s at least 4 (ish) Sith who wanted to reshape the Empire
Am I the only one who wanted to support all but 1 of them
Support: Jadus, Revan, Malgus
Kill: Emperor Vitiate

[@Anetron1]

I mean, Revan literally wanted to kill everyone with traces of Sith DNA, that's not exactly "reshaping". And you can support Jadus, it just doesn't really change anything going forward, which highlights the difficulty of integrating such a major choice into future narrative. Pretty sure that's exactly the reason you can't join Revan or Malgus - it creates too much variability in the story that you have to account for.

[@nicolasrenson4861]

@@Anetron1 revan knew how corrupt both the republic and the empire were, so, he did what he had to do

[@kreigguardsman3355]

Honestly I wish I could join those three if also support Mar. If SWTOR wasn’t an MMORPG an more like KOTOR or a modern RPG it would of been possible and so much better

[@ultrademigod]

You forgot Malgus.

[@lasonris8934]

@@ultrademigod check again

[@dr.kinderman5290]

I joined Jadus the idea of working without sith horshittery ruining everything was just too good to pass up

[@Swordyplayrebel]

I don't know, to me Jadus seems to be a weak sith, i mean i don't see any other sith lord taking the agent's shet, they would blast him/her off right away. Agent outsmarting a sith is just too damn convenient, it is Jango Fett winning to Komari Vosa level of bullshet, blasters would never win to a lightsaber let alone force powers it just doesn't work like that.

[@sd.kfz.2224]

Darth Imperius is already working on that.

[@sd.kfz.2224]

@@Swordyplayrebel >Jango Fett winning to Komari Vosa level of bullshet
beskar

[@imperialhero3889]

Jadus is more powerful than any member of the Dark Council at this point in time. Most Sith are retarded man children who would ruin any chance of rebuilding by killing the agent in a tantrum, it’s true. But Jadus was smart. He saw that his plot was beaten, and did the smart thing and retreated in order to rebuild rather than be exposed.

[@knightmare5097]

@@Swordyplayrebel The reason Jadus doesn’t blast the Agent into oblivion is because he, unlike most other Sith, thinks before acting. His power is second only to the Emperor yes, but he doesn’t just use it willy-nilly. He’s smart, tactical, and well-spoken. Unlike the buffoons that plague the Sith Empire

[@brentashworth]

"Few have survives earning my hate ... and my respect... JADUS OUT!"

[@christinebouzas3090]

Did Kaliyo really just try to finger gun Darth Jadus? Wouldn’t be surprised if she was making “pew pew” noises as well

[@RAAM855]

You may have the power of the Dark Side. But I have Nerves of Steel.
Literally

[@dannybeane2069]

0:32
The problem with having a draw time faster then light is that your gun won't render in time when you pull the trigger.

[@dasdeke]

I remember getting this one! One thing I love about the Imp Agent, so many choices and storylines!

[@HolyknightVader999]

''Know that few creatures survive earning my hatred and my respect.''
You know that man respected few beings in his life, and when you became one of them, you reached a new level.

[@AMysticLegend]

Darth Jadus: It was just a prank Bro.
Agent: Ok cool Mah boi.

[@bloodysimile4893]

Darth Jabus is closets we got to the "true Sith" that Kriea from KOTOR 2 warn you about and likely face in KOTOR 3. How the True Sith would be working, teaching the galaxy to embrace the way of the sith.

[@insignificantgnat9334]

Xanatos Speed Chess staring the Agent.

[@kirashep]

Nice! I've played the agent several times and never got this outcome. Darth Jadus-best voice in game imo

[@strangegaming88]

He's definitely up there for me too

[@sethmiles9436]

Love his voice and his armor

[@strangegaming88]

He's very cool

[@PrincessTS01]

my female chiss sniper joined jadus and became partners in destruction

[@ltb1345]

How does that actually work? Does that just mean you're locked out of the other endings later on?

[@kreia187]

@@ltb1345 it's a little weird. The quest line with jadus' daughter or apprentice or whatever she was changes quite a bit and there are a few dialog changes aswell as special letters sent to you, but it's not like the entire class story just disappears or goes into a completely different direction.

[@Arcian]

Reminds me of talking down Legate Lanius in Fallout: New Vegas

[@pip_SMM]

this agent is more robot than darth skotia

[@chriskirkland6976]

Give him time!

[@kenny187ful]

The IA storyline was always one of the best of SWTOR

[@gloupconnor8803]

0:29
Darth Jadus: This is the world as I have remade it
Kalyio: So you have chosen death!

[@PallorMortis]

I remember being high when and I stumbled across those choices. I just wanted to piss him off and I was laughing at every choice I picked an amazing moment.

[@delucadude1]

Playing this game stoned is honestly amazing LOL

[@IsRickIV]

What happened to your character! Looks like he got in a fight with a eight armed Sith Lord haha. Cool pack.

[@Faryn11]

It’s an armor, a cybernetic armor set

[@IsRickIV]

@@Faryn11 I saw it down in the comments, was just trying to be funny haha. Appreciate the info though.

[@kauyanDJ]

It's a subtle nod to Kane Starkiller, original incarnation of Anakin/Vader. He's a cyborg with only his head and right hand being flesh.

[@PrepareToDie0]

He didn't have the high ground ..

[@GunnerM60]

So now that Vitiate/Valkorian/Tenebrae is well & truly dead, I hope another DLC comes out that brings back Darth Jadus!

[@The_M4ze]

Well, let's see what Legacy of the Sith gives us... Ya know other than putting one of the strongest Sith in the middle of the Imperial/Republic Fleet like a numpty

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

This guy talking with Marr would be like the Star Wars equivalent of all "Lord Tywin and Lord Baelish" scenes in Game of Thrones

[@Vikorlv]

At first I read in the tittle "Talking Down Darth Jesus" lmao

[@life4trinity]

I really enjoyed this mission or the class story in general.

[@seb6226]

What are the other outcomes? I think agent has the most unique and different class choices and outcomes.
I believe there are 4-5 different variations of the ending.

[@strangegaming88]

Of this scene there's this outcome
Fighting Jadus and refusing to input the code
Inputting the code and sacrificing people
and joining Jadus.

[@Boringspy]

The one where you input the codes is the one where you stall for time and the dark council arrives to arrest jadus

[@kauyanDJ]

1. Talking down Jadus and all is well (LS)
2. Destroy the Eradicater and allow Jadus escape (LS)
3. Unleash the Eradicater on Empire to stall & capture Jadus (DS)
4. Joining Jadus by betray W2 and kill Zhorrid
All 4 endings won't change the main storyline of act 2 and 3

[@SmellyUnfortunate007]

6:23
Agent and Jadus has an intense conversation.
Caselock: Hello there!

[@ltb1345]

Damn, I didn't know you could actually do this.

[@TerribleWarden]

Did she expect him to just stand there and take it?
He's a sith.

[@QoQabai658]

He can 'teleport'?! Maaaannn! Jadus is no f***** joke.

[@killskill9391]

I feel fully like this is a VERY powerful Jedi mind trick.

[@TheAubergineMan]

It's a damn good thing you had cybernetic legs, I don't think you'd have managed it without steel balls.

[@liams6585]

* glows red with rage *
Y’know what? Never mind

[@pogggaming4470]

6:40
And that’s checkmate

[@awslade74]

I can't hear the Agent's voice without hearing Simon Cowell

[@turinmormegil7715]

The amount of Balls the agent has in this one is of galactic proportions

[@michaelcristel3060]

"Your overconfidence is your weakness."

[@sandrayagami3812]

I read the title ''Talking Down Darth Jesus''.

[@strangegaming88]

Also accurate.

[@aboundingvampirekiller2048]

Jadus Christ 🤣🤣🤣

[@pandamochiyum8854]

Darth Jadus, literally seething in anger and dark side energy: “ARE YOU SO WILLING TO DIE BEFORE YOU GIVE UP THE CODES?! SO CONFIDENT OF VICTORY IN DEATH?!! SHALL WE TEST IT?!!”
Agent: Yes
Jadus: Okay then.
*proceeds to leave*

[@inyalgaico1563]

Darth Jadus was actually pretty cool, Cool mask. Teleportation, Cool goals, cool deamener almost darth marr ish

[@Straswa]

Awesome vid, I really wish I had taken this option. Would have saved me from a long arduous battle with Jadus.

[@bunth786]

Jadus didn’t expect the hardness of the Agent balls.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

Agent talks down an uber-powerful Sith Lord.
Weaselly flunky: "I'm going to kill you! WITH MY GUN! LEEEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS!"

[@georgigs]

Great Video SG !

[@strangegaming88]

Appreciate it! It's funny seeing you in my comments now, since I've been seeing your videos pop up in my recommended a crap ton for a while lmao. Also great videos btw.

[@georgigs]

@@strangegaming88 i see yours now as well 😂
"Apes together strong"

[@strangegaming88]

@@georgigs We'll conquer the site in no time.

[@championastartes]

I can't decide if I like Malgus, Jadus or Marr more... oh right... all of the above lol

[@dartharaneus67]

0:32 -> that Force speed was most impressive!

[@ajjessen5236]

Jadus was WASTED as a cameo in the order of Zildrog expansion. Bioware kept wanting an evil emperor they should've used him.

[@strangegaming88]

Was Jadus in the Zildrog expansion? I don't remember ever seeing him. I thought he had yet to return.

[@ajjessen5236]

If I remember right he was one of the orders sacrifices that sent that big beast droid at you. It all depends on the choices in your OG character story.

[@strangegaming88]

@@ajjessen5236 Well I looked it up on TH-cam and I couldn't find anything. Are you sure you're not thinking of Darth Baras?

[@ajjessen5236]

@@strangegaming88 Huh, maybe, but I could've sworn I saw one with him... Oh well. That just means he's still being ignored and therefore wasted.

[@strangegaming88]

@@ajjessen5236 We're in agreement there.

[@spartan-s013]

This was just ridiculous. He was at verge of killing you and all of sudden: " oh, i will go home now"😂😂😂

[@CS_Mango]

I never have seen a man go from 0 to 100 back to 0 so fast.
Edit:I botched that sentence real hard.

[@realfallengang]

That profile pic brings back memories for sure

[@itsatrap1017]

Jadus: I have already won.
Caselock has entered the chat
Jadus: I am already dead.

[@hk-4799]

DAMNIT i thought this was a different outcome for when you meet him after nal hutta and now the endings spoiled to me, oh well lol

[@strangegaming88]

Sorry bud-

[@JustiXNL]

OW WOW. I never even knew this outcome existed I never even read about it on reddit or the swtor forums. Crazy!

[@leagueplays2100]

i loved jadus, what a badass

[@asabovesobellow1676]

That. Was. INSANE!

[@celticfox]

When I first played through this story and found out Jadus was actually not dead, but also in fact the one pulling the strings and setting the groundwork for his ultimate plan.. What a great twist, what a great story. The female VA for the agent was my experience, so this was a nice treat.

[@TheGIJew.]

There are so many ways this quest can go
You can talk Jadus down like in this video.
You can stop any of his weapons from firing, although he'll get away.
You can pretend to go along with him and let the weapons start to fire, but secretly sabotage the ship. 10,000 Imperial lives are lost, but Jadus gets arrested by the Dark Council.
Or you can just side with Jadus and let him win. You kill his daughter for him and become one of his agents.

[@Hex72]

I totally didn't realise this was possible, I was so close to this outcome in my playthrough too now I think about! Dang!

[@astrius22]

Understandable. Have a great day.

[@TrojanR6]

ah yes, taking out darth jadus is a rare outcome....
I too, have been victim of this rarity.

[@strangegaming88]

Might want to reread the title or actually watch the video.

[@TrojanR6]

@@strangegaming88 It was a sarcastic joke. I completely understand the title and the video

[@dannybeane2069]

(gameplay programmers) "well congrats writers, you wrote your way out of fighting the big bad. Now who are we gonna make the boss?"
(writers) *points **8:51* "Eh, he'll do"

[@williamkerfoot8039]

Looks like a turian with that helmet on! 😂

[@Fenix1o]

This kind of spoiled me since I’ve only gotten to complete the sith warrior line but I don’t even care. That was cool. Did you just skip a boss battle by talking or what?

[@strangegaming88]

Pretty much. There are two other routes that skip the boss battle, but they're dark choices, so this is the best route for a smart light agent. I won't go into detail tho, I wanna protect you from spoilers as best I can :P

[@butteredpooper7750]

Shit dude, I literally just did this quest yesterday, if I knew I could talk him down I would

[@OwnageMancer]

Speech 100

[@yoann5573]

"I hate you so much that I actually respect you."
Well that was something 😂

[@hinkadarkin5012]

fuck I should play this game a little more

[@victoriagubrud2373]

Am I the only one wondering why the agent looks like a droid?

[@strangegaming88]

This character of mine is highly cybernetic, my backstory for them involves being seriously injured and rebuilt to serve the Empire.

[@floricel_112]

@@strangegaming88 imp-o-cop!

[@JoshTheHoffman]

@@floricel_112 Roboimp or RoboCypher hmm RoboAgent? bah idk

[@optimistprime3192]

@@JoshTheHoffman
RoboCypher has a sort of ring to it.

[@JoshTheHoffman]

@@optimistprime3192 Agreed the best out of the three.

[@shadowstrike211]

I need that guys armor

[@IsaTehGothicMando]

WHOA HOW THE FUCK , I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD DO THAT.

[@wolfpack95805]

I'm so happy I managed to get this outcome my first time with no walkthrough help. It's not very well hidden but it could be considered hidden :D

[@Metawraith]

That was fuckin' sick.

[@adamdoran1398]

i went and joined him. fucking a i wanna be the hand of papa jadus

[@diegodelacruzanaya537]

Imperial agent is the best story line so far

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

That Cyborg glamour is freaky

[@MrTussbon]

Impressive, kinda sad I didnt make these choices.

[@TalkativeHour]

I did a complete dark side character but after stumbling upon this I just had to make this decision. When would you ever get the chance to say you talked down a dark council member

[@Murphy2043]

I haven't played an Agent, but if I were an Agent, I would find an excuse to hand him a datapad to see if he can read it.

[@Oppetsismiimsitsitc]

He was really scared of Caselock.

[@RecklessFables]

0:31 Did she try to shoot him with fingerguns?

[@sickbozo8152]

disney should take lesson from the writers of this game... oh and fire darth kennedy

[@trask9100]

The fact that he subtly admits you already fucked his plan up, only for you to call him on his bluff when he threatens to kill you then conceding you're actually totally right is fucking hilarious. As an agent, you literally out maneuver the guy that even the Sith Emperor himself admits is the most intelligent and powerful sith in the empire second only to him, simply because he made the mistake of underestimating you, in fucking Chapter 1. In terms of impact on the empire, imperial agent is definitely at the top.
Fun fact, Lana Beniko later states during the War on Iokath that she has plenty of evidence to suggest that for some reason or another, it was started by Jadus pulling strings behind the scenes but she isn't certain what his motive is. So if broadsword puts out story content, hopefully we will see a Jadus return.