How to make a hennin stay on your head
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- CORRECTION: I think "frontlet" actually refers to the floppy rectangular guy on the front of transitional hennin and with early tudor bonnets, and that is what is referenced in those wills.
A little medieval headwear experimentation for you all!
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The velvet band itself may be the anchor. Velvet bands are still used to anchor silk scarves…the pile on velvet has some directionality. If the pile is in the correct direction, a longitudinally folded strip will grab both the hair and the veil or a hennin itself and prevent slippage because the piles sort of mesh together - like a bazillion teensy fingers clasping. However if the velvet pile is not oriented correctly, the band enhances slippage - you just reverse the strip. I would not be surprised if there is also a narrow velvet liner in the hennin itself. Perhaps the loop allows for more control of the whole rig…
FANCY VELCRO! I was thinking i'll just pin it onto the band, but it didn't occur to me how much the velvet will help. it totally will!
A forehead-sweat-covered wire was my only inheritance :(
Bootstraps were my only inheritance, kid. quit yer complaining.
Thanks for expounding upon the hennin. I love learning new things. I wish you the best on your TH-cam journey.
I'm an observant Jew and cover my hair with scarves and use a variety of things to add some volume and "pouf" to my styles. All of them feature velvet both inside against my hair and outside against the scarf. I'd suggest replacing the silk you had inside the band with velvet. You just have to watch that you have the pile going the right way.
Thanks so much! It's super helpful to get suggestions from someone with experience!
Nicole Rudolph made this style of hat when she made her maleficent costume earlier this year. She talks pretty extensively about how she solves the problems you are describing and walks through how she does it. It has a lot to do with the velvet headband grabbing the hat and your hair at the same time.
Yes! I love her. I've seen that and I liked her ideas. Thank you! I might have to ask her how she actually fixed the band to her head.
Thank you! Literally yesterday I posted there hennin I am struggling with. I look forward to seeing more!
Awesome! Happy to share my notes!
Something like this is so simple and so smart! Great video!
Glad you liked it!
Anyone know a Dervish? Their hats are the closest thing I can think of in the modern world that would be similar to a Hennin. Part of the answer you're looking for already exists in other cultures in the here and now. Which narrows it down to find the right person and you get to ask the how-to construction questions.
For example, my husband brought home a Fez from The Village.
It was actually produced in the town of Fez (who I believe took their name from a berry that's used to achieve that particular shade of red).
The interior of the Fez is woven (I think by basket weave, but it could be a kind of twill - the pattern is a series of diamonds) The weave is the structure the fabric (wool?) is pulled over
The fabric appears to be a single piece, which means (I think) that it was steamed into shape.
There are three grommeted holes in a triangle formation at the top-centre of the hat.
The band is leather' stitched to the inside edge of the hat.
The Fez and the head-covering worn by a Dervish while dancing/praying may have absolutely nothing to do with each other. But something is giving those portrait hennin some fantastic structure. There was interplay between the regions - to the point that the wimple was inspired by hijabs. Maybe for a hennin it's fabric over a basket that was woven to fit your head dimensions?
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown
Would some sort of interfacing work to give the band a little more structure / slash / heft? What you've got is awfully close.
The velvet. May have just swooned a little.
Yeah, there's a world of headwear out there, and its a good place to look for practical solutions to make it work. It feels like too much of a stretch for me to speculate on what they actually did then based on what's around now.... or at least I'd want to do a lot more research into those cultural practices for historical reasons (in europe, so much "folk" costume is invented folk revival stuff from the 1800s) as well as sensitivity. I don't want to draw too many connections between contemporary cultures that aren't mine and the middle ages, especially while people use the word "medieval" as a pejorative to describe cultural practices they don't like. That said, I think plaited or woven straw as a structure makes a lot of sense. I was going to do that actually!...but instead I ended up just using plastic as you will soon see haha.
Yes, I think very stiff buckram would've been better for the band.
@@making.history Yeah, agreed - it's always a delicate balance when dealing with someone else's culture and history. And it's hard to walk around the minefield of stereotypical tourist depictions (amazing just how much spread the Victorian influence has).
That being said, we're talking about some very old technology (I have a whole argument that sewing and fire were invented around the same time... anywho). There must be some sort of default solution for keeping a cone-shaped thing on your head. The design just keeps popping up and our craniums remain the same.
There's got to a simple solution that we just don't know because we live in a corner of a planet that only wears wool hats in winter. _The Bay_ no longer has a hat section. Sadly.
For the band - I'm wondering if the wire needs to hook to the back of the band. To give it an anchor point to adjust the headgear. Maybe attached by wire hooked through grommets?
I wonder, is the little U shaped thing not a ribbon that they have used to bind their hair underneath and maybe a fashion trend was to have a loop of your ribbon poking out? Many other medieval hair shows how ribbons were used to secure the hair.
There are many paintings showing the loop attached to a black band that was firmly attached to the head. This is a wired loop , not just a ribbon. It is a structural part of the wearing of a hennin.
Interesting
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I hope you have spoons for many more
Thank you! The spoons are few right now, so I appreciate the sentiment
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Its very similar to levantine tantour
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantour