Why I’m going with the Suzuki is because of how easy it is to change the exhaust, no modes, no ride by wire. The 07 and 09 are great bikes but not so much to the point of me buying one. Thanks! Good Vid.
i don't think you would choose the FZ-09 if you test rode it. The GSX-S750 has far better suspension, corners and handles WAY better. The FX-09 in comparison feels like a bouncy castle in the twisties which is very unnerving. Yes it does have slightly less power but its otherwise a better bike in every regard imo. It might not look as cool (which is subjective) but the suzuki engine is also tried and tested and is pretty much bulllet proof. You definitely made the best choice imo.
@5:56 Off course not because you should know that the GSX-S750 is unrestricted and reaches 230 kph and the MT-09 is restricted to 210 kph. @6:06 Torque is not horsepower. :) @7:44 If you start from this perspective, The Triumph Street Triple is the better option. It is lighter, more nimble and has the same amount of horses all across the rev range. :)
Stop making sense you :) This is all true. The GSXS is definitely old technology. I sat on an FZ09 at the dealer the other day and it was shocking how much lighter it was. Kinda makes me miss my super light Ninja 250. Until I hit the throttle then I don't care :P
my dream sportsbike gsx s750, i want a bike below 1000cc middle wieght class that is nimble to drive and i can squeeze all the power out of it anytime i want matching my driving style
Better bike = not all about HP or torque , how about comfort , service, looks, dealership ,economy etc . all the bikes in this class are going to be way more power than you really need ,i think you got a great bike and whatever bike you get there will always be a “ better ” bike round the corner . I think a fz09 might be a bit quicker off the line & R1 even quicker H2 even quicker and so on , sorry i am starting to ramble now . great video .
Hey no problem! I love to hear others perspectives. After reading so many reviews but then actually getting on the bike and riding it makes me wonder why it is so greatly overshadowed by the FZ's. But the writers of these magazines have their own perspective which is completely different from someone like me that's upgrading from a beginner bike. Thanks for stopping by and sharing!
Rob Duncan I kind of wanted a street triple, but where I am they are really expensive and really hard to service. Anyway, I been looking at this bike since many people always described it as the poor man's street triple. They have a few good deals on this bike that I might be able to get if I sell my commuter in time. I like chasing the revs, and always liked the gsxr 750 motor. I know this is retuned, but I hope I really like it if can get one. I am pretty sure that I will and frankly it is such a good deal I couldn't really get any else close except maybe a hold over z800
Jonathan Bauer - my advice for what it is worth is get the bike you really really want if that means saving up to get the money then save & get the bike you want, then enjoy that bike ! But if you like to change bikes a lot, like all the time then my advice is no use to you , hope that helps . Good luck
GSX750 is a nice bike, loving mine. I gotta try the FZ09, hopefully this weekend, and also compare to the FZ07 just to see how that feels again. Heck, wonder if they have any cruiser styles to demo lol
As long as you like it that's what matters. However I'll keep my full fairing sport bike, even though I like the word naked as well. Stay safe out there buddy.
+KillinInSecret Thanks :) I'd love a sport bike as well but just don't like the riding position. Maybe when I have a garage one day I can have one of each!
sp3ak I'll agree the seating position is crap. I'd love to get a FZ myself for going to work and what not. But for now I'll just pretend I'm comfortable for the sake of bike life. lol
The jerkiness can be fixed, it is throttle snatch due to fuel injection, and it can be fixed in several ways,such getting it flashed or tuned, but the cheapest way is mechanical. Gizmag talks about trying to fix it in the first gsx-s 1000 review with links I believe
Nice, I'll have to look that up. My buddy just got the throttle sync tool as well so I might give that a shot and look into a flash at some point down the road. Thanks for the info!
sp3ak I was gonna try to get a new 2018 gsx-s 750, but I came across a super good deal on a hold over, and I am trying to quickly sell mine so I can go back to a big bike. Originally I thought about the fz09, but I actually like chasing the revs. I really have liked supersports, but want something more comfy and more affordable to run and insure. Guess my priorities are different than when I was young. If I miss out on the good deal I found I will try to find some other hold over of a bike like this. Just seems like u get so much better if a deal that way and I have had bad luck with used
+Jonathan Bauer Cool! The left over bikes are great if you are patient and potentially willing to travel a bit to get it. My deal happened so fast and it was purely based on opportunity. I don't think you'll be sad with this bike at all.
Literally got a red 06 ninja 250 a few months ago and am looking for something bigger that I won’t want to upgrade from for “normal” use. Been looking at the s750 for a bit now, they look like a blast and sound great with an exhaust
I just learned on a 2015 cbr300 last summer and am likely about to buy a new s750 this season. It’s between that or the cb650. So I appreciate your review 👍🏻
Suzuki barely survived the economy tanking. That's why so many of their bikes (it actually applies to their whole product line) are just carry overs year after year without investments in new R&D.
the FZ 09 this, the FZ 09 that...Well maybe the FZ 09 is a bit faster and less weight, but the number one influence on me has always been looks. The Yamaha doesn't even come close to how sexy looking that Suzuki is. Every reviewer has said it's really smooth and handles well, add to that great looks, what else does one need for a great bike?
+Kelly Mahon I agree, and for me the price was a big influence. Looks are subjective so it's about you enjoying it and being happy with your purchase, and I very much am. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, and I'm not hating on Yamaha, it's ok, but I like the Suzuki a lot more. And as you point out, if you can find new left overs, they come at a great price. There is a few dealerships that have a 2015 (new) left in stock. I have enough money so I am thinking about buying one. I was also considering the SV650, have you tried that one out? Thanks for any help.
+Kelly Mahon I did ride the new SV, it's in my video list from a couple months ago. It's good, easy to ride, torquey. Would be a fun bike. Depending on what you are coming from or riding style you may be wanting for more power
@4:17 It is a budget bloody beginner bike. Complex matters should not be truncated by a simpleton approach to a beginner bike. It makes more sense to consider at least powerband, handling, the mad skillz of the rider and how long he wants to keep the bike.
sp3ak just ordered mine today cuz I got it for 4999 (minus the fees and all; got a great deal but not exactly 5 grand out the door) and otherwise I can't probably afford a new bike but have had alot of trouble with some used bikes in the past. I always wanted a gsxr 750, but am ready to have a naked bike as it probably does fit my needs better. It is getting shipped to me cuz if I bought it in Minnesota it actually costs me more than having it shipped to my family's place in North Dakota cuz of taxes, so that is kind of crazy. But I am pretty excited for it as I miss having a bigger bike. I probably won't do too much to mine, but I will probably put some lower links on it cuz it is just ever so slightly tall for me, a throttle tamer or whatever it is called possibly, a fender eliminator for sure, and maybe a slip on just cuz it sounds so nice. Oh and frame sliders possibly, but I just want to do that to protect it probably
+Jonathan Bauer that's awesome! That's basically the same deal my buddy got on his 2016. I'm sure you will enjoy it. You should check out the gsx-s750.com forums as they are very helpful in finding mods and information. One of my other videos is a mod overview if you want to check it out for any inspiration. There isn't a massive aftermarket for these bikes but there is plenty of stuff out there to make it your own. Congrats!
Ride both back to back. FZ09 looks better on paper. Suspension, and seating position is terrible. Its all motor. I'd take your bike over it any day even at the same price. Go test one..
I'm going to try to make a Yamaha Demo Day this season and try one out. Also know few folks with them so maybe they'd be up for a bike swap. But it will certainly be interesting!
I had one for a summer, a 2015 that I took on trade for another bike I was selling. I really did not like it. Suspension is very soft, bike wollows back and forth alot.. I am an experienced rider and I never felt super confident with it leaned over. Its a very nervous bike. You sit too close the bars... Your literally straight up and down with your arms barely stretched forward at all.. and riding a speed is annoying, tiring and uncomfortable. The faster you are going the worse it is... Throttle is twitchy, front wheel comes up easily.. In this type of bike if you really want a triple pay the extra cash and get a street triple. Im 6'1" 190lbs.
Who cares about bike size engine's etc, It's all about the rider I have a 750 and will smoke alot of bigger bikes down the canyon. I guess it might matter in the straights where skill dosen't come into play as much.Just my opinion.
But the gsxs1000 obliterates the fz09. In the real world money and performance between Yamaha and Suzuki goes fz07, sv650, gsxs750, fz09, gsxs1000. The cool think is you can get them all under $10,000. Pick your level of insanity.
I only rode the gsxs1k one time for a demo ride so I can't recall. I believe it's going to be a bit less twitchy as it doesn't have as much torque. The 1k also had ride modes and mine does not. I also can't remember if they've moved to a full ride by wire setup.
Having ridden both the GSR 750 and the new GSX-S750 the biggest difference are the brakes. They're much much better on the new version. Oh and the airbox roar is nice. Otherwise it's still pretty much the same nice allrounder bike.
+Jack Smack Well I'm only able to share my perspective after owning a Ninja 250. I've still not had a chance to do the FZ yet but with all their low end torque and ride modes I'm sure I'm in for a surprise.
Yeah riding modes are cool and all but I did not enjoy fz-09 on the twisties. Maybe the new ones are better but the first couple years it came out the bike was hard to control. Hope Yamaha fixed the issues.
Jack Smack the 2017 MT 09 is so much better than the original models. They are for the streets though at the end of the day so if you like dressing up like a power ranger while trying to out ride Valentino Rossi it might not be the bike for you.
I'm sorry mate I don't live in Europe so I don't know what you guys have there. I'm assuming you have never ridden Fz-09 before so I will ignore your comment.
@@RyaNewGame it s not a gsx-s is a gsr, i own a gsx-s and have a different display a different hand bar, different tank form and size , the place you put the key in is different in a gsx-s there is a grey big ''button'' on the left hande to change tc in gsx-s and this one dosent have it and the front headlight is different, the front wheel cover is rounder on a gsx-s this is more squared ,so is a gsr
@@MrAntonietor he even states at 0:43 "my GSX-S 2015", talking about the bike in the video, his bike, and that's when the first GSX-S 750 came out, in 2015, the first model, which had that dash and general looks, that were changed already in 2017 if I'm not mistaken, but that's how the 2015 GSX-S 750 looks. In the US someone said it kept the GSR name until 2017, after which they changed it to the GSX-S there too, so that's why you migth say it's a GSR.
@@RyaNewGame i m italian and trhat bike until 2016 was called gsr the gsx s came on 2017 whit a different body shape, i found out that you have reason about that model , duno why they put different names
Bought a tricked out 2015 for 4500$ today and I’m in love with it
Cad or usd?
Why I’m going with the Suzuki is because of how easy it is to change the exhaust, no modes, no ride by wire. The 07 and 09 are great bikes but not so much to the point of me buying one. Thanks! Good Vid.
i don't think you would choose the FZ-09 if you test rode it. The GSX-S750 has far better suspension, corners and handles WAY better. The FX-09 in comparison feels like a bouncy castle in the twisties which is very unnerving. Yes it does have slightly less power but its otherwise a better bike in every regard imo. It might not look as cool (which is subjective) but the suzuki engine is also tried and tested and is pretty much bulllet proof. You definitely made the best choice imo.
I really enjoyed my time with it
Gsxs has better suspension, better dash, and looks better. IMO
I've been very pleased with it so far.
@5:56 Off course not because you should know that the GSX-S750 is unrestricted and reaches 230 kph and the MT-09 is restricted to 210 kph.
@6:06 Torque is not horsepower. :)
@7:44 If you start from this perspective, The Triumph Street Triple is the better option. It is lighter, more nimble and has the same amount of horses all across the rev range. :)
Triumph is more expensive and poorer quality w/ few places to service it.
it's heavy because frame and sub-frame are steel. FZ09 has aluminium frames. Engine is slightly lighter because it's triple.
Stop making sense you :)
This is all true. The GSXS is definitely old technology. I sat on an FZ09 at the dealer the other day and it was shocking how much lighter it was. Kinda makes me miss my super light Ninja 250. Until I hit the throttle then I don't care :P
my dream sportsbike gsx s750, i want a bike below 1000cc middle wieght class that is nimble to drive and i can squeeze all the power out of it anytime i want matching my driving style
Better bike = not all about HP or torque , how about comfort , service, looks, dealership ,economy etc . all the bikes in this class are going to be way more power than you really need ,i think you got a great bike and whatever bike you get there will always be a “ better ” bike round the corner . I think a fz09 might be a bit quicker off the line & R1 even quicker H2 even quicker and so on , sorry i am starting to ramble now . great video .
Hey no problem! I love to hear others perspectives. After reading so many reviews but then actually getting on the bike and riding it makes me wonder why it is so greatly overshadowed by the FZ's. But the writers of these magazines have their own perspective which is completely different from someone like me that's upgrading from a beginner bike. Thanks for stopping by and sharing!
Tks for reply hope you enjoy your GSXS 750 ( It gets rave reviews over this side of the pond )
Thank you, I love it! No regrets here which is why my list of things I don't like about it are short and trivial.
Rob Duncan I kind of wanted a street triple, but where I am they are really expensive and really hard to service. Anyway, I been looking at this bike since many people always described it as the poor man's street triple. They have a few good deals on this bike that I might be able to get if I sell my commuter in time. I like chasing the revs, and always liked the gsxr 750 motor. I know this is retuned, but I hope I really like it if can get one. I am pretty sure that I will and frankly it is such a good deal I couldn't really get any else close except maybe a hold over z800
Jonathan Bauer - my advice for what it is worth is get the bike you really really want if that means saving up to get the money then save & get the bike you want, then enjoy that bike ! But if you like to change bikes a lot, like all the time then my advice is no use to you , hope that helps . Good luck
GSX750 is a nice bike, loving mine. I gotta try the FZ09, hopefully this weekend, and also compare to the FZ07 just to see how that feels again. Heck, wonder if they have any cruiser styles to demo lol
Yes it would be nice to ride an FZ. I assume they will have the Bolt there if you want a cruiser.
We should just say "Thanks Suzuki for another great bike"
Yamaha can keep their clunky gears and whiny motors
+2clinks True
And attitude that spits the Suzuki out.
As long as you like it that's what matters. However I'll keep my full fairing sport bike, even though I like the word naked as well. Stay safe out there buddy.
+KillinInSecret Thanks :) I'd love a sport bike as well but just don't like the riding position. Maybe when I have a garage one day I can have one of each!
sp3ak I'll agree the seating position is crap. I'd love to get a FZ myself for going to work and what not. But for now I'll just pretend I'm comfortable for the sake of bike life. lol
The jerkiness can be fixed, it is throttle snatch due to fuel injection, and it can be fixed in several ways,such getting it flashed or tuned, but the cheapest way is mechanical. Gizmag talks about trying to fix it in the first gsx-s 1000 review with links I believe
Nice, I'll have to look that up. My buddy just got the throttle sync tool as well so I might give that a shot and look into a flash at some point down the road. Thanks for the info!
sp3ak I was gonna try to get a new 2018 gsx-s 750, but I came across a super good deal on a hold over, and I am trying to quickly sell mine so I can go back to a big bike. Originally I thought about the fz09, but I actually like chasing the revs. I really have liked supersports, but want something more comfy and more affordable to run and insure. Guess my priorities are different than when I was young. If I miss out on the good deal I found I will try to find some other hold over of a bike like this. Just seems like u get so much better if a deal that way and I have had bad luck with used
+Jonathan Bauer Cool! The left over bikes are great if you are patient and potentially willing to travel a bit to get it. My deal happened so fast and it was purely based on opportunity. I don't think you'll be sad with this bike at all.
Literally got a red 06 ninja 250 a few months ago and am looking for something bigger that I won’t want to upgrade from for “normal” use. Been looking at the s750 for a bit now, they look like a blast and sound great with an exhaust
I just learned on a 2015 cbr300 last summer and am likely about to buy a new s750 this season. It’s between that or the cb650. So I appreciate your review 👍🏻
I’m real late to the show but What about the z900? Compared to this bike?
Suzuki barely survived the economy tanking. That's why so many of their bikes (it actually applies to their whole product line) are just carry overs year after year without investments in new R&D.
+brussell639 Makes sense. Their car line in the US didn't survive at all either.
Exactly that. In the US. Look at the rest of the world.
I own the same bike. And yes it is jerky and has some flat spots
Nice long video thanks 🙏 I’m buying one and this really helped dude
the FZ 09 this, the FZ 09 that...Well maybe the FZ 09 is a bit faster and less weight, but the number one influence on me has always been looks. The Yamaha doesn't even come close to how sexy looking that Suzuki is. Every reviewer has said it's really smooth and handles well, add to that great looks, what else does one need for a great bike?
+Kelly Mahon I agree, and for me the price was a big influence. Looks are subjective so it's about you enjoying it and being happy with your purchase, and I very much am. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, and I'm not hating on Yamaha, it's ok, but I like the Suzuki a lot more. And as you point out, if you can find new left overs, they come at a great price. There is a few dealerships that have a 2015 (new) left in stock. I have enough money so I am thinking about buying one. I was also considering the SV650, have you tried that one out? Thanks for any help.
+Kelly Mahon I did ride the new SV, it's in my video list from a couple months ago. It's good, easy to ride, torquey. Would be a fun bike. Depending on what you are coming from or riding style you may be wanting for more power
@4:17 It is a budget bloody beginner bike. Complex matters should not be truncated by a simpleton approach to a beginner bike. It makes more sense to consider at least powerband, handling, the mad skillz of the rider and how long he wants to keep the bike.
What’s up speak do u still got the gsxs ?
I neeeeeeed a bike
Do it!
Get the Givi screen for it, makes it look better. Or just sell it if your ready and get the new MT10😀
I ended up with the OEM windscreen. And I recently road the mt10, it's amazing.
A heavy bike is my ST1300......almost 800lbs
Yep pretty much exactly how I feel about mine.
Except you can add "Stock Exhaust" to your list of Con's, lol :)
sp3ak true....but I can add $5000 OTD to my list of pros! :P
+Austin Sullivan Yessir! It's on my list as well
sp3ak just ordered mine today cuz I got it for 4999 (minus the fees and all; got a great deal but not exactly 5 grand out the door) and otherwise I can't probably afford a new bike but have had alot of trouble with some used bikes in the past. I always wanted a gsxr 750, but am ready to have a naked bike as it probably does fit my needs better. It is getting shipped to me cuz if I bought it in Minnesota it actually costs me more than having it shipped to my family's place in North Dakota cuz of taxes, so that is kind of crazy. But I am pretty excited for it as I miss having a bigger bike. I probably won't do too much to mine, but I will probably put some lower links on it cuz it is just ever so slightly tall for me, a throttle tamer or whatever it is called possibly, a fender eliminator for sure, and maybe a slip on just cuz it sounds so nice. Oh and frame sliders possibly, but I just want to do that to protect it probably
+Jonathan Bauer that's awesome! That's basically the same deal my buddy got on his 2016. I'm sure you will enjoy it. You should check out the gsx-s750.com forums as they are very helpful in finding mods and information. One of my other videos is a mod overview if you want to check it out for any inspiration. There isn't a massive aftermarket for these bikes but there is plenty of stuff out there to make it your own. Congrats!
IMO, the Kawi Z900 is a much better package than the FZ-09
Ride both back to back. FZ09 looks better on paper. Suspension, and seating position is terrible. Its all motor. I'd take your bike over it any day even at the same price. Go test one..
I'm going to try to make a Yamaha Demo Day this season and try one out. Also know few folks with them so maybe they'd be up for a bike swap. But it will certainly be interesting!
I had one for a summer, a 2015 that I took on trade for another bike I was selling. I really did not like it. Suspension is very soft, bike wollows back and forth alot.. I am an experienced rider and I never felt super confident with it leaned over. Its a very nervous bike. You sit too close the bars... Your literally straight up and down with your arms barely stretched forward at all.. and riding a speed is annoying, tiring and uncomfortable. The faster you are going the worse it is... Throttle is twitchy, front wheel comes up easily..
In this type of bike if you really want a triple pay the extra cash and get a street triple. Im 6'1" 190lbs.
Good info, thank you!
@@seanadams252 The FZs/MTs-(07s and 09s) are utter shit in terms of handling. But few TH-camrs will actually admit it.
Who cares about bike size engine's etc, It's all about the rider I have a 750 and will smoke alot of bigger bikes down the canyon. I guess it might matter in the straights where skill dosen't come into play as much.Just my opinion.
What’s the intro song?
But the gsxs1000 obliterates the fz09. In the real world money and performance between Yamaha and Suzuki goes fz07, sv650, gsxs750, fz09, gsxs1000. The cool think is you can get them all under $10,000. Pick your level of insanity.
found a '15 w/ 300 miles for $5800. whaddya think?
I think that's a pretty good deal.
Hes wrong...mt 09 is good no doubt. But dollar for dollar cant beat the gsxs
Fz 09 , Fz 09 Fz 09 f**** that shit. You need to see the price difference. Gsx 750 sounds much better than z 900 , street triple and mt 09
Does it have snatchy throttle like gsxs 1000?
I only rode the gsxs1k one time for a demo ride so I can't recall. I believe it's going to be a bit less twitchy as it doesn't have as much torque. The 1k also had ride modes and mine does not. I also can't remember if they've moved to a full ride by wire setup.
sp3ak much thanks mate!
The Air Hawk works great.
I'm about to pick one up for 4500
Ride modes aren't good to learn on.
It's weird seeing the same roads that I drive on in a TH-cam video
My friends try to play the game of "guess the road" while they watch :)
Oh it's a GSR 750.
Exactly :) Guess I should have mentioned that.
Having ridden both the GSR 750 and the new GSX-S750 the biggest difference are the brakes. They're much much better on the new version. Oh and the airbox roar is nice. Otherwise it's still pretty much the same nice allrounder bike.
+Xerdoz Cool! I demo rode the new model not long before I bought this but it's hard to tell when you ride a bike for such a short time.
GSR750 no GSXS-750
How many people didn't like the video just to keep it 123 😂
Better then a good deal, come on
Dude my ass gets sore sitting on a comfy seat 2 hours at the movies
If you feel this bike is jerky trust me when I say it you wouldn't like fz-09 so I would wait with your comments until you actually ride one.
+Jack Smack Well I'm only able to share my perspective after owning a Ninja 250. I've still not had a chance to do the FZ yet but with all their low end torque and ride modes I'm sure I'm in for a surprise.
Yeah riding modes are cool and all but I did not enjoy fz-09 on the twisties. Maybe the new ones are better but the first couple years it came out the bike was hard to control. Hope Yamaha fixed the issues.
Jack Smack the 2017 MT 09 is so much better than the original models. They are for the streets though at the end of the day so if you like dressing up like a power ranger while trying to out ride Valentino Rossi it might not be the bike for you.
I'm sorry mate I don't live in Europe so I don't know what you guys have there. I'm assuming you have never ridden Fz-09 before so I will ignore your comment.
Jack Smack oh yea i forgot America feels the need to rename everything so you guys dont get confused, poor buggers.
Good Vid
+Rawlow61 Thanks!
I wanna see more Karate for 1K.
+Moif Done.
that s a gsr not a gsx -s
The one he's riding in the video ? GSX-S all day
@@RyaNewGame it s not a gsx-s is a gsr, i own a gsx-s and have a different display a different hand bar, different tank form and size , the place you put the key in is different in a gsx-s there is a grey big ''button'' on the left hande to change tc in gsx-s and this one dosent have it and the front headlight is different, the front wheel cover is rounder on a gsx-s this is more squared ,so is a gsr
@@MrAntonietor he even states at 0:43 "my GSX-S 2015", talking about the bike in the video, his bike, and that's when the first GSX-S 750 came out, in 2015, the first model, which had that dash and general looks, that were changed already in 2017 if I'm not mistaken, but that's how the 2015 GSX-S 750 looks. In the US someone said it kept the GSR name until 2017, after which they changed it to the GSX-S there too, so that's why you migth say it's a GSR.
@@RyaNewGame i m italian and trhat bike until 2016 was called gsr the gsx s came on 2017 whit a different body shape, i found out that you have reason about that model , duno why they put different names
Woo... nakid bikes!
NEKKED!
Delay in your skills. Stomp it...