The Real Stories of Peter Molyneux's Canceled Games B.C. and Milo & Kate (Unfiltered #18, Episode 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 เม.ย. 2017
- Renowned game designer Peter Molyneux shares the true stories behind two of his most highly publicized canceled games: B.C. and Milo & Kate.
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These interviews are the kind of content that IGN has been sadly lacking, for a long time. Great to see it making it's return.
Best content IGN does, well done Ryan!
If you want me to buy a Xbox Scorpio? Hire Peter and his team to make Fable 4. SOLD!
OMG ITS METAL JESUS!! I completely agree btw, Fable 4 would sell me on a Scorpio instantly.
OH MY GOD JASON'S HERE. I love fable too! I think they need to reboot it though, give it a fresh breath, a new life
This aged nicely
Aged like fine wine
I could honestly listen to Peter Molyneux talk all day. Really wish he did a weekly podcast. I don't care what about.
best content IGN has produced in years! hope this is the start of a new series of in-depth interviews with game developers. keep up the fantastic work, Ryan!
Fable 4.
Black & White 3.
I was sad when Lionhead was closed. Wished Microsoft would've swallowed the loss of Fable Legends and direct them either to a Fable reboot or a Fable 4. Or even offer up a new IP
Probably the best episode yet, those were some great stories and they just show that we never really know what's going on behind closed doors.
you guys should expand this someway, really riveting stuff.
I love these interviews. Well done Ryan.
Amazing interview Ryan. Keep it up.
Even now he is dodging questions, smart business man.
Thanks again Ryan, and Peter ! Very interesting, and Peter is so pleasant to listen to.
This is fascinating. Thank you guys.
Thank you Ryan, thank you IGN. Another most wonderful interview segment.
I've never got the abuse & hatred this man gets some times. I'll admit not getting the content you were promised is bad but it's not all his fault entirely. He's really passionate about what he's created he wasn't lying it most likely was removed cause of a time limit or what was capable people need to realise game developers aren't gods there normal people who are just working with what there given & what's capable so keep your expectations grounded & possible
It's mostly because he has straight up lied. Being passionate and hopeful is one thing. But he's definitely promised things he knew were undeliverable.
jmstwn you should read the eurogamer article on lionhead its very detailed and gives allot of clarity on what was going on and why he did what he did.
He is a straight up liar almost as bad as Sean Murray. I stopped buying his games years ago and will never touch anything he develops ever again. Fable was a cool game for the time but it was way over hyped and under delivered. Game breaking glitches all over the place and most were never fixed. Fable 2 had DLC that was released broken and most players were never able to finish it. The reason why he got away with a lot of this is because social media was in its infancy at the time.
Canada Denmark I loved that article more people should read it instead of just blindly hating on the guy hell people who don't even play lionhead games hate em just because they've heard a negative version of the story.
from what i understand you cant beat 2 things on internet ; hype train and hate train . im sure people just want to find someone or something to hate on , even if its stupid . and its much easier to do what others do than think for yourself
I’ll believe that the development was on tech that was capable of Milo, that was chipped away at while it was still being developed. More I’ll give the benefit of the doubt. But, the demo that was presented to everyone was on the version of Kinect we bought. He reacted to the same video we did with the kit clearly seen and he knew it was completely fake, yet still sold Kinect to us based on a complete lie. I watched this hoping he’d own that and comment on it. I wonder if he ever will. Such a shame. What an unfit swansong for a true legend.
Further, the amount of freedom they show in the video requires a lot of branching. This, too, is now possible these days with LLMs, since they can be generative. However, in the time of Milo, they'd have to be pre-generated, or generated in very simplistic ways (think of old school chatbots). More so, the idea presented was simply a fantasy.
Microsoft reducing the specs of the Kinect would have little impact on Milo, since the Kinect really had little to do with the underlying systems that supposedly existed (ignoring that it was fake). For example, the voice aspects were just a microphone, and the tracking and recognition would be fine for this use even at a lower field of view.
I'd say the tech was not there yet at the time, so it would always have been fake.
Bring BC back from the dead, techology and coding has changed so much since then, just start over and everything you want to achieve (including commercial success) will be WAY easier now!
I think one off these unfiltered with Brendon McNamara would be good, you could talk about The Getaway, L.A Noire and the controversy surrounding Team Bondi.
BTW the show is great, keep it up.
Great interviews! Loved Black & White, dread to think how many hours I put into the game.
So basically... London was like .. "Hey, make stuff so we can put on Stock Market and stuff..." --- Microsoft is like... "You are doing too much my boy..E3 my boy... people putting more quality in their work;
I forgot all about Milo dang..
Good Job, Ryan. But personally, I really don't think Peter Molyneux should make another Fable game. Look at his game @ 22 cans, Godus. It's a disappointing game. Since Fable 2, his vision wasn't what it was. I strongly suggest to Microsoft and Phil Spencer to pick a new team take on a reboot Fable. The IP was great. Let's not go to waste. I think Playground game is a team to reboot this franchise for Xbox.
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As a huge fan of Fable 3 I have to disagree (though Molyneux was studio lead and not the creative lead of it, so in that sense you are right). However, I'll agree that no one person is needed to make a good sequel. Playground is a shoo-in for Fable 4, I would love to see that happen.
Thank you for the reply. I agree about what you said. A game wasn't based on just one man's vision. It's a whole team effort. He was the studio head of Fable trilogy. He has the final decision to decide what kind of game mechanics should be in the game among all the others created by the creative team. Some got picked, some got dropped.
I am not saying that Fable 3 is a bad game. It's just not as innovative as both 1 and 2. After Fable 3, Journey and Legend, I haven't see him doing much beside Godus. I mean that I wanted any developers to do great stuff. So we can have good unique fun game. I know that having creative idea is such a tough thing. And it's not easy to make a great game. When Peter answered Ryan, he is happy doing the way he is now. If that mean Godus, I just don't see how Microsoft would want him back to create another Fable.
When Playground game said that they wanted to make a non-racing open world game. I was hoping that Microsoft would offer them to reboot Fable. After their recent record on Forza Horizon 1, 2 and 3, they are a excellent choice. However, they might not want to reboot Fable for Microsoft.
I would love to see a Black and White reboot but for gods sake give it to another studio that has competent developers.
Peter Molyneux the one man that can create so many conflicting emotions. The man is passionate and brilliant but he loves making promises that are impossible to keep. I still remember his original kinect demo... it made the possibilities of the kinect seem AMAZING... then nothing. He still gave us Fable and Black & White. Two games despite not having everything in them always that was promised... were still great games.
people saying he a lair but come on he not the only designer that's made promises and could not make it happen even if he tryed every trick in the book to make it a reality also he had to work with the original Xbox and for what he made with that was amazing also the man made black and white the best game ever created and i still play it to this day. thanks Peter
Whoaaa what a cliffhanger ending. I need to know why he was reborn!
I dont blv a word of this man
Can someone tell what's going on please
people need to think for a second before open their mouth and call peter a lair he did some shady things back in the day true . but he also created b&w and fable and other amazing games .
he doesnt deserve the reputation internet gave him
Black and white 2 suffered from some terrible bugs/glitches that were never fixed such as the wolf creatures model permanently morphing into a comical looking scooby doo monster. And then there is the laundry list of game ending glitches in all of the fable games. I bought DLC for fable 2 that NEVER worked and I couldn't get a refund on it and it was a known issue at the time but they kept selling it anyway. Just because those games look good with nostalgia goggles doesn't mean they were good games. They were over hyped and extremely under delivered. Peter Molyneux is worse than Sean Murray because gamers have been letting him getting away it for at least the last 15 years. He deserves every single piece of hate thrown at him for putting out such unfinished games.
Michael Vinson go read eurogamers piece on lionhead you'll feel stupid for saying what you did after.
Michael Vinson did you skip over the parts were the staff address his actions and the reasoning of them ?
His actions were a direct result of his poor choices. Spin it however you like the end result is still on his shoulders. The article also does not address the flat out lies he often pitched to us when showing off his games.
Michael Vinson in the article it states that the things he said were going to be in the game were either things that were cut or going to be implemented but couldn't we must be reading 2 different articles if that's what you got from it.
When it came to Milo, Microsoft Molyneuxed Molyneux
No Dungeon Keeper 3?
Phil make it happen!!!
MS is not smart enough nor willing to take risks , why do you think they stuck with their last gen IPs
sapnu puas
flip your desktop upside down
piss off, i aint from australia.
Please bring back fable the phil!!!!
Black and white 3 or a spiritual successor is still nowhere to be found
Peter Molyneux has been reincarnated.
I want new Fable made by Peter more then any other game.
More than Half-life, more then old style Final Fantasy...
I wish Peter could get call from Microsoft
Love you IGN
i didnt know anything about this guy except that he made Black & White that i loved back in the day, then i tried Godus as a supporter in pre beta. ....im not buying any game from this guy unless its released and done deal ever again.
Damn this was a long interview
YB90Gaming lol
well looks like its not finished yet !
let him develop games idc just dont let him talk or do the marketing, enough said
Peter has moobs
the call it unfiltered and when he said shit they filtered it😏
Brick is amazing. Hate Looper.
These are great Ryan. Thanks once again for this content. Would love to see some interviews with women and people of colour like Amy Hennig and Rami Ismail. Keep up the good work
This is a weird request.
Ben Fairbrother I don't see how
ljyearwood9 I would like to see interviews with people who have created interesting games or are themselves interesting. It doesn't matter what group they are associated with or what colour their skin is. I find it weird that this would be at the forefront of someone's mind.
However, if you are interested in non-western games development there is a good article on Pakistan's game industry over on Polygon.
Ben Fairbrother it isn't at the forefront of my mind as I said that these are great and I hope Ryan keeps up the good work but there's nothing wrong with wanting to see more diversity. I've loved the fact that Ryan has gotten people from different areas of the industry CEOs, studio heads, coders, designers etc. and even different nationalities so in that same way I'd love to see even more diversity with women/POC. I bet you wouldn't be averse to someone asking to see more indie devs so I don't know why you'd find it weird that I ask to see women/POC. thanks I might check out that article
ljyearwood9 I am averse to selection based on race or gender.
Lol
#nevertoolate
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right right so the "city of London" wanted "him" to have an ipo?but he needed more products? omg the king of lies strikes again.
dahabs123 how is he lying ?
dahabs123 i really dont get this comment in what way was he lying ?
legendary ? lol
he's just a pathological liar
This interview doesn't count.
cosbusta Your opinion doesn't count.
liar, liar, pants on fire................
why give face time to "the liar" of videogames.if anybody ever lets him make a game again....it wont happen.