While I will cheese the occasional end loot, I most often go through the entire POI as intended. Exploring POIs is part of the endgame experience to me.
Thanks - there are so many ways this game can be played. It's interesting to see the comparison in the boxes - you have put in a lot of work here. Regards to all.
It might also depend on the difficulty level you are playing at doing a level 5 POI at higher difficulty (Warrior and above) take definitely more than 10 min (at least for me). Normally when I do missions to progress the trader, I go for the main loot once then do the mission so I don't lose so much time going back and forth to the trader.
so, to answer your last question, I'm a LOOT GREMLIN. I take all the things, though now that I'm entering late game, and realise i have TWO THOUSAND cloth at my base, and not sure i have enough uses for it...etc...that I'm probably gonna start skipping over a lot of the containers. especially toilets. paper, and murky water, when I've got 6 fully upgraded dew collectors? I dunno. not worth. that said...comparing one of your sets of results for 5x main loot vs 1x full run...what exactly are you basing your "more loot" on? it doesn't seem like you were considering the value of the loot. more ammo? more mods more skill books in the main loots by a long shot. the regular loot was mostly different stuff. if my time is to be spent attempting to secure the most loot of best value then going after main loot is clearly the winner here. your results show that! the number of slots occupied in the treasure chest is a really dumb way of looking at it, if that was your metric.
@@jake5773 okay fair, I spent like half of it making the damned gyro, and a perfect M60...need to find more legendary parts tho! found some at a savage country but not enough.
my friend and I, when we do a poi, tend to take everything we possibly can, even breaking down the tables and things like that. mainly for resources LOL
If you really want to break the loot then start a teir 6, Grove high school being the best, bust the front door down, ignore zombies just grab loot, don't finish the teir 6, instead exit the game and reload it, the their 6 will reset and you can grab the loot again, rinse and repeat until you have everything in the game. I have over 60 treasures maps with no need for them. Easy cheesy loot.
Double loot and trash are underrated. I get most of my glue and brass from trash. As well as other stuff. Just the normal little bags of trash often give you glue
Tier 1 POI can take as little as a minute or less. And the POI will greatly effect this. It also looks like you are using a controller. A mouse will greatly speed up how fast you can go through a POI. Just from the clips I see I can go at least 2x faster. While some armor sets are really nice especially when doing something like a Horde night, but I was actually really happy doing an Intellect build using Scavenger armor and a Treasure Hunter's Mod and maybe some point in Lucky Looter. I found I had crazy amounts of Dukes so I had no problem just buying a lot of stuff.... Steel, gas, weapons, tools, and even vehicles. You find good stuff in any container.
I loot the main stash of 4s and 5s every 7 days, ladders and paths are already laid out so I can get to them in about a minute. in my other time, I am doing full loot quests, mining, farming, building
I Savour the experience and don't rush; if you rush, you are shortening the journey to boredom. I've also found more legendary parts when looting than I have seen in the main loot containers. The game is all about the journey to being comfortable. If you rush, the journey becomes shorter, and then when you expect something to do at the end, you find out there isn't anything there. This should not be a game to Min/Max... it's the opposite.
Great video! For me it just depends.... Early game once I have cleared a POI and am in relative safety I might block off to doors to keep out visitors and totally tear the place down to the rafters. Break every toilet, sink, coffee maker, chair, couch, bed, curtains and stash whatever I cant carry in the mailbox and drop a marker for an after hours pickup. Later game I look for targets of opportunity. I see a main loot stash through a window, why not take it. I do a lot of chopping through walls and roofs peeking around. I probably dont need another storage container full of ammo and medical supplies, but I cant pass up those big beautiful boxes of goodies. When you find a sniper rifle or M60 it makes all the skulking around in the dark worth it!
I feel “end game” is Tier 6 infested quests. Most efficient way to get there is infested quest where you need to clear the entire POI anyway. I guess you could do hundreds of buried supplies or A LOT of fetch only… Plus with the exception of treasure maps reward crates the only way to get the best gear (tier 6) is to craft it. And the majority of stuff you need to craft tier 6 is not found in the main loot. It’s the cloth, leather, legendary parts, etc etc etc you find along the way. Going straight for the main loot also feels cheap to me. I don’t have a problem with someone else doing it, we’re all just having fun it’s just not my preferred play style. I want to earn that loot through a challenge.
Yup. What @pApA0LeGBa said. If it stacks, I keep it one me and fill the stack. I always clear the POIs, I'll leave 'caches' throughout, generally fridges if the places has them, or Book deposits ie, book shelves etc. So when i'm done a quick run thru and collect everything up quickly. And yea, fill the truck or gyro, depending. Cloth is a huge bear in this version, unlike most other versions where it falls in your lap. if the poi has lots of furniture..nursery home, high rise, before I leave i'll smash everything. Time consuming? Yes. Fun? For me? Absolutely. I just love smashing stuff! And I'm a horder, this game has always helped me scatch my ocd/adhd itch Lol Namaste 🙏
Yeah...running back to the trader takes a lot of time too, so there are only so many you can do in a row quickly. Interesting to see the data though. I'm always salvaging and looking for books so I almost always run through an entire POI, except for really early game when I'm sometimes just looking at fetches for quick gains.
@@Re3Ns Initially I am focused on developing stealth, night bonuses, and sniper rifle. Of course, I'm not going straight to the wasteland, first I need to unlock some bonuses and equipment.
@@Re3Nsmaybe not early early but if one were to come across a toilet knife or toilet pistol and ammo along with some cobblestone that would be very doable and probably about the most efficient way to get loaded. Update: I came across a knife, pistol, stun baton, 70 concrete mix, and a claw hammer running around a desert town by the night of day 2. I’ll spend the night seeing if I can build a bike then try to head to the wasteland to hunt red bags at some point on day 3.
I agree completely. I was hoping this video would discuss clearing then looting versus looting as you clear. Interesting info but this won't affect my gameplay personally.
Great explanation. What is great to loot is Surprising the Trash you find about the world. I bet you could live in 7 days to die, by just looting trash. You do get a lot of seeds. I don't know if Trash or Bird nest respawn in the world like on the road or other places not connected to a POI which might get reset due to a quest there.
He's probably going to think we're neurotic for doing it lol I do the same thing. Choose a quest, clear the poi, activate the quest, clear the poi. It's a packrat's dream - everyone else's nightmare and compared to the clears he does in the video, very time consuming.
I make a lot of dukes selling mechanical parts, electrical parts, etc., so I always go through and salvage most everything from a poi - and I may as well loot while I'm at it. Works for me.
One factor that you may have missed is that looting main stashes only will result in more transports to and from locations, and those often take several minutes too. Thank you for your interesting analysis.
The issue tends to be that I need the stuff that isn't in the end POI loot or given in loot rewards. I need the cloth, the polymer, the water the armour parts, the thread. Yes you can buy little bits of those from the vendor sometimes. But cloth - I need say a thousand pieces and before I get my farming skills up looting a whole POI (one with curtains and beds) is the best way to do it. There is an army base with bunk beds where each room nets me about 200 cloth. The trader never has more than 30 or 40, and often none at all.
Yeah, i didnt understand this either. And dont you get better loot from quests? You cant just go snag the end loot in a quest. Unless its a fetch or buried supplies and the end loot is usually awful for those. Plus youre never gonna get all the other stuff you need just snagging loot, like cloth or polymer. It really feels like he doesnt understand the game. You do quests cause you get better loot and rewards. And the infested quests have an extra infested loot chest.
Plus people who find themselves short on cloth or this or that those things are consistently found through normal looting same with books and legendary parts I find more in random lootables than end stash honestly
The experience will change as your perks and clothing sets increase. Early game - Full Clear (curtains, sofas, cloth patches, chairs, the lot) Mid game - just the main full loot End game - just survive 😂
"Almost as much loot", What? The T3/T4 main x5 that was shown was way better. Way more books, mods, ammo, dukes/cash, all the important stuff. Wasn't even close and it did win by a landslide. The only noticeable/useful thing I saw full clears getting more of was armor parts, which makes sense because you usually find those in clothing piles and closets.
Not really. Sure few more books and such but look at total rows filled. And once again as stated in the video you would loot the same t4 poi 5 times in a row. Heck you wouldn't even look 2 t4's in a row. So considering they were so close, an educated guess would tell you in a normal situation they would be about the same.
@@Firespark81 Almost double the books or 5x more mods or a couple ammo vs full stacks of ammo isn't just "a few more" bro. Who cares about the number of rows filled? Why do you think 1 feather or 1 fat is equal to a full stack of ammo? Those would be the first things left behind in a real situation. You also have vehicles for storage. You can easily hit up multiple T3/4 main loots in a row with some common sense loot management. And if you were going to even think about farming main loot to begin with, it wouldn't be a stretch to also be resetting POIs with the quest logout trick or doing the slightly less cheesy pre-loot before starting quest trick. Even if you were going to set limits to not do that, just hitting all T3+ main loots as you come across them is better than not, especially if you hit the jackpot with a Grover High.
@@Firespark81 Nah, you're just out of touch and came to the wrong conclusion, based on your personal feelings instead of the evidence you literally showed in the video. Or you think you can only do one or the other and hitting the main loot whenever it makes sense to somehow erases the fact it's clearly a better use of time. Thinking people normally do T5s in 10mins already illustrated that point by itself though. But whatever gets you clicks and engagement. And don't worry, it's the last click you get from me. This vid and it's conclusion was almost pointless to watch.
It only took me a little over 10 min to clear the t5 poi that is 100% a fact. I love when people try to argue times with me when they have no concept of it because they are playing the game not paying attention and just think they know how much time passed. And as I stated in the video some may be larger but we are looking at averages on normal clears not mission clears like infested and such. You clearly didn't watch the whole video, skipped through it probably, and didn't listen to half of what I said. You also put way to much value in a few extra books that are in most cases useless and vendor fodder. You also got a ton of projection going there talking about basing conclusions on feelings instead of facts. Fact is you are not looting 5 t4 poi's main loot quickly back to back maybe 3 or 4 t3's but even then the loot will be very different between those. If you watch my videos showing the t3 main loot locations you can see that. I know what Im talking about because I spend hours analyzing this crap. It's kinda my job. And if you think you threatening to never watch one of my videos again somehow hurts me or my feelings all I can say is hahahaha. Cheers!
What I found interesting is that not one of your looting boxes had a legendary part. I find them on day one or at least 5 to 10 in the first 7 days. I have found them in a trash pile I spawn next to on day one. Most of them at lower levels come from trash in my games.
Interesting expiriment. I double loot almost everything. Do a run-thru and get as much as I possibly can while taking my time to memorize what "puzzles" need to be overcome. Then I will put everything in a crate AFTER pressing the ! button and do it again; this time much faster. When getting to mid-end game it is also good to keep in the back on one's head that ALL POIs have loot that is not even usable early game. Going into a T1/2/3 to tear apart for mechanical parts or other things that are needed later in-game is a lot easier than trying to find them in POI 4/5. Always remember when playing 7 Days to Die . . . find the cooking pot and that is a jump in/jump out ordeal on it's own on days 1 and 2.
I would like to see a video on what objects are worth looting? like toilets have water, garment bags clothes or cloth fragments, so is foul trash EVER worth looting? what about luggage? just knowing what loot objects are worth opening would save a lot of time. (going over the value or things like bundled cardboard pallets and building material pallets in pois would also be nice)
Everything is worth looting to some extent. Even late game, opening the container is worth it just for the EXP. Each container you open give you exp equals to your game stage (or maybe loot stage, but IIRC it's gamestage). So, early on, it's next to nothing. But when you reach late game, you get more EXP opening container than killing zombies.
The advantage to looting a whole POI is you get more balanced loot, especially as it relates to food and water. A big disadvantage of only going after main stashes is you skip kitchens and bathrooms. Once your a good garden and several dew collectors this becomes mute.
I take my time and loot everything as well as scrap everything, I may only get 1 or 2 POI's finished in an in-game day. By looting everything possible I find myself with plenty of crafting materials in just a couple days. By week 2 or 3 I end up with more stuff than I need and sell excess to the trader, some items like polymers and electrical parts bring in big $$$ the best money thing I've found so far without cheating is to make a large farm 100 or more plots and farm Super Corn, chrysanthemum, and goldenrod.
I think how you loot really depends on what you are trying to achieve. Going after the main loot only might help a lower level player get an equipment boost without a major fight. This all depends on knowledge of where the main loot is in the first place with might not be known to new players. There are a few POIs where the main loot is visible from the outside. Grover High comes to mind where it is visible through the windows in the lobby. At higher levels, I might pick the main loot when I need an ammo boost and don't just need stuff you get from clearing the building. At a lower level when I need stuff, I'll clear lower level POIs.
I usually do no trader runs and for most of the game I run around looking for easily accessible kitchens, mailboxes, food trucks, toilets and vehicles. The only places I’ll fully clear are bookstores and military bases/outposts.
My play style is completionist. I place two storage boxes in front of the poi then run the entire poi. Looting and salvaging everything. Then I start the quest. This run through I loot everything and only salvage the main items. Doing it this way takes longer yes but it also keeps you from having to go do any mining or forestry.
@@seanmaconaughey5573you need to place it outside the border of where the POI is triggered. If the POI I’m doing is right on the side of the road for example I clear it then dump in a box I placed on the other side of the road from POI. Then I start quest and clear it all again. Gotta make sure you don’t place box on property of POI.
About 9:55 I loot it all but run through so all the zombies can be put down and have some building blocks and keep my gyro with me so if I do tower's I put my gyro down then use it toget to my truck to deposit inventory then use gyro to get back to where I was then rinse and repeat till poi is looted
I feel like a big thing that's missed here is the amount of loot, dukes, and exp you get if you're hitting those POIs for a quest instead, and the addition of stuff like infested crates. The way my group usually does it is we get a quest, get to the area, hit the loot room, then restart the PoI and do the quest so we get to hit the loot room twice. You then also get Dukes and rewards for however many people completed the quest too and it adds up quick especially at end game.
Double looting a poi like that is very good for sure but if you have the means to carry lots of loot and you are maximizing your time you 100% want to hit all the poi's next to the quest poi. Because running back and forth to the trader then to new poi is going to waste a ton of time to travel.
That army base didn't take me long at all just shy of 11 min. But once again I focused on getting through it didn't linger and killed fast. But it is big I can imagine it easily taking longer if you're not working on stats for a video and just having fun.
@@Firespark81 I'm having fun, but I'm also a big chicken and go slow.. hahaha Lvl 6 gear and stun baton. but when i wake up a large group.... The fight or flight kicks in! LOL
The best bang for your time is the tier 5 invested quests. In other words a tier 4 poi that's infested. You can do them is a fraction of time time the tier 6 quests, and won't burn near as much ammo.
I havent had that problem at all this time. There have been times when one fell off the roof and I had to find him but I have notvhad one I couldnt find yet.
A wrench and running around the wasteland scrapping cars, checking rubbish piles and hunting were wolves and demon bears effectively makes all poi's an their loot pointless. Best game loot is from these red loot bags. Sell all scrapped parts from cars and buy hacker /eye candy at vending machines. This can be done from game start. To be honest they really need to nerf the red loot bag drop in wasteland as its killed poi's loot runs.
@@blainebickle1178 yes the amount of higher tier weapons, ammo and books you can get from those loot bags is unreal...not to mention armor and treasure maps.The best i have gotten was 2 full rows of loot in one bag.
I am still pretty new to the game. so i search through everything and take everything i can. i also look for alternatives to how i am going to go through the poi. i do not like to follow a designated path.
8:00 Your suggestions here seem backwards to me. Unless you've already spent an insane amount of time in a world, you won't be anywhere near max level (300) or close enough to even have a full build. Hence, xp is a *very* valuable resource, especially as your level goes up and the amount needed to reach the next level starts to get quite significant (that xp amount maxes out after hitting level 60 and won't get any higher, but it's like over 120,000 xp per level at that point). Conversely, in the early game, levels come very quickly and easily and you're very much in need of loot to gear up, get food, drink, medical supplies, building materials, etc. etc. to get setup and perpetuate your survival, hence I'd say doing smash-and-grabs on main loots (especially of like T3 POIs) in the early game is more worthwhile than actually fully clearing T1s in terms of loot per time and getting what you need to get started. Eventually you will want to bust out quests usually to get T1 completion rewards for the free Bicycle fairly soon though. So I'd argue that it's actually earlygame where smash and grabs make the most sense. Later on, you want to full clear, even if you start ignoring minor loot containers like trash piles and such because they rarely if even have *valuable* loot. The real art that veteran players slowly learn is knowing which containers are worth your time and which ones you should just ignore, and the same is also true of what loot you should actually take and what you just leave behind in most cases (30 small stones from a trash pile is pointless by midgame when you can mine them by the 1000s easily and that inventory is better tasked with holding something valuable like parts or ammo or food etc.)
Oh I see the confusion. That's my bad. Max level is 60 or just at what ever point you specifically feel op is what I meant. Not true Max level 300. Sorry I don't even think about 300. It's absurd. Most people are op by 40 or 50. Everyone is op by 60 even if you make some trash build.
@@Firespark81 Yea that's a side effect of rising lootstage and gear progression stemming from it. That said, on more challenging settings, the difference between a good build and a bad one is massive. I think level 1 to level 2 is like not even 10,000 xp, but level 60 to 61 is like over 180,000 xp. So leveling slows considerably as you increase in level.
True but I base all data on default settings as things get messy when you start changing settings. This also gives everyone a good baseline idea of the topic I'm talking about and how those settings will affect their game. But yea sorry for the confusion.
What POI I full clear, full loot or shortcut varies by what kind of containers are in them and how accessible the end loot is. I don't remember what block to break and stuff like that for most poi, but I can make educated guesses based on the look of the poi. Short answer is I will loot/scrap/kill based on my needs at the moment. POI with extra book containers I will be more likely to go through entirely until my build is complete and I have the important sets of books. Medical/food poi I'll be more likely to fully loot early on, but will likely ignore extra loot in the mid-late game. POI with the final loot simply sitting on the roof/other obvious spots I'll be more likely to steal it and leave.
@@Firespark81 heh, this is one of the reasons I cannot play with my brother. He'll be encumbered basically all the time and insisting on looting everything, in spite of dying from being unable to manouver and progressing super slow. He can't explain the benefit to his playstyle, but he can't resist doing it.
you forget to mention (maybe because you play a lot and know the exact location) new player won't know the location of the loot room. and it's impossible to have 5 exact poi in the same location. so the time you take to search online where loot room is will be longer than just go full loot the poi.
I think difficulty level plays a big part. Just started an insane+deathless attempt and out of five quests so far, I've full cleared two only - one was a diner on day 1 (I badly needed food and water, so I not only full cleared but double dipped and cleared twice), and a Book Barn (very good POI, especially early when you *need* workstation and armor books). Otherwise, the juice just isn't worth the squeeze. Even setting up a zed killing area outside the POI, it's a lot effort when my stamina regen and weapon are both awful. I suspect my attitude will change though as I get more ammo. But that's 7d2d in a nutshell - tough early game, easy late game.
If you want your best chances at finding legendary parts then you want to loot entire POI's as there are a lot of different containers which can spawn those.
The good thing about looting is that if you just go full assassin with machete it's pure profit 😂 I can't come away from it honestly. I'm on day 64 and I have almost 2 upgraded storage of 762 and 9mm each, a full box of shells and 3/4 box of 44 and I have crafted maybe 500 bullets just for some AP rounds lol
Like I told the other person who said this and like I said in the video. It's skewed. Wasn't to much more and you would loot the same one 5 times. You could possibly loot 5 t3's or 2's in a row but in most cases it will be mixed and will end up being the same. Try it. You'll see.
Sorry but I’m calling bullshit here!! It takes you on average less than 2 mins to clear the end zombies in a tier 5? So over 20 rads in 120seconds….Thats BS!
then you are doing it wrong. I place two turrets, grab the loot, pick up the turrets and leave. most 5s I already have ladders and/or tunnels built so I can walk strait to the loot
shouldn't perk books be considered here? I mean it also depends on what kind of run/playthrough your going for though. However the lucky looter series of books isn't a huge boost but it helps and hitting many containers vs a few main loot containers seems like it would effect results here as well?
This is just a base line. I had no loot perks active. Because if one option was to give more loot at baseline then any perks would just further improve it.
@@Firespark81 Yea I'm grateful ya took the time to test it i was just wondering about the loot rolls in comparison to the number of containers. In theory the more loot piles you loot the more rolls the perks from the perk books would get to effect the outcome. does hitting main loot 4-5x times have more or less containers than a poi have in total. Its interesting and something i'll have to check out myself next time i play.
If you want to get the most XP the fastest then do infested clear trader quests. But those are usually not worth doing the highest levels of those unless you're just doing them for the challenge because of how much ammo you use.
I am 100% a loot whore XD and i will take literally everything lol prolly not the best for being optimized but i like to take my time anyway, but after watching some of your vids and looting poi's a decent amount i have just ninja'd loot a few times especially if i can see it and I'm in a tough area.
The loot in V1.0 just isn´t worth it to not get all the stuff from salavaging in a POI. Cloth. You need a TON of it in this version. Also polymers for dew collectors. Brass for bullets. Corpses for rotten meat and animal fat. I mean snagging a main loot every once in a while is ok, but generally you should rather get what you can in a POI. You should really regulary play a game when doing guides.
Every zombie no matter where or how it spawns has a chance to drop a loot bag. There is nothing in the xml files that states any different. They drop pretty regularly in POI's.
While I will cheese the occasional end loot, I most often go through the entire POI as intended. Exploring POIs is part of the endgame experience to me.
Agreed, I just did Greg’s Motel the honest way and it’s much more fun than busting the garage door down.
Exactly this! Utter pointless cheesing the game!
Thanks - there are so many ways this game can be played. It's interesting to see the comparison in the boxes - you have put in a lot of work here. Regards to all.
It might also depend on the difficulty level you are playing at doing a level 5 POI at higher difficulty (Warrior and above) take definitely more than 10 min (at least for me). Normally when I do missions to progress the trader, I go for the main loot once then do the mission so I don't lose so much time going back and forth to the trader.
Especially on Warrior, and on the POI he referred to, the Army post #7, it’s typically a two day job.
so, to answer your last question, I'm a LOOT GREMLIN. I take all the things, though now that I'm entering late game, and realise i have TWO THOUSAND cloth at my base, and not sure i have enough uses for it...etc...that I'm probably gonna start skipping over a lot of the containers. especially toilets. paper, and murky water, when I've got 6 fully upgraded dew collectors? I dunno. not worth. that said...comparing one of your sets of results for 5x main loot vs 1x full run...what exactly are you basing your "more loot" on? it doesn't seem like you were considering the value of the loot. more ammo? more mods more skill books in the main loots by a long shot. the regular loot was mostly different stuff. if my time is to be spent attempting to secure the most loot of best value then going after main loot is clearly the winner here. your results show that! the number of slots occupied in the treasure chest is a really dumb way of looking at it, if that was your metric.
There's no such thing as too much cloth....
@@jake5773 okay fair, I spent like half of it making the damned gyro, and a perfect M60...need to find more legendary parts tho! found some at a savage country but not enough.
my friend and I, when we do a poi, tend to take everything we possibly can, even breaking down the tables and things like that. mainly for resources LOL
Same, I strip buildings thoroughly. Light fixtures, ac vents, breaker boxes, window shades and curtains, couches, etc...
@@sinisterthoughts2896 all we leave is the house frame itseld xD only way to loot
If you really want to break the loot then start a teir 6, Grove high school being the best, bust the front door down, ignore zombies just grab loot, don't finish the teir 6, instead exit the game and reload it, the their 6 will reset and you can grab the loot again, rinse and repeat until you have everything in the game. I have over 60 treasures maps with no need for them. Easy cheesy loot.
@@johnnieb3515 lol. The real meta.... Shhhhhh....
Double loot and trash are underrated. I get most of my glue and brass from trash. As well as other stuff. Just the normal little bags of trash often give you glue
I absolutely agree with you here, especially early early game. Like, tier 1 POIs are always lucrative to double loot.
Tier 1 POI can take as little as a minute or less. And the POI will greatly effect this. It also looks like you are using a controller. A mouse will greatly speed up how fast you can go through a POI. Just from the clips I see I can go at least 2x faster.
While some armor sets are really nice especially when doing something like a Horde night, but I was actually really happy doing an Intellect build using Scavenger armor and a Treasure Hunter's Mod and maybe some point in Lucky Looter. I found I had crazy amounts of Dukes so I had no problem just buying a lot of stuff.... Steel, gas, weapons, tools, and even vehicles. You find good stuff in any container.
Rarely min/max in 7D2D, just roam, build and raid. exploring the world is half the fun in the game.
Most often I will pre-clear main loot grabbing what I can along the way. Then I start mission and will full loot everything.
Morgan: "I have to clear."
For the hoard!!!
I loot the main stash of 4s and 5s every 7 days, ladders and paths are already laid out so I can get to them in about a minute. in my other time, I am doing full loot quests, mining, farming, building
I Savour the experience and don't rush; if you rush, you are shortening the journey to boredom. I've also found more legendary parts when looting than I have seen in the main loot containers.
The game is all about the journey to being comfortable. If you rush, the journey becomes shorter, and then when you expect something to do at the end, you find out there isn't anything there. This should not be a game to Min/Max... it's the opposite.
Great video! For me it just depends.... Early game once I have cleared a POI and am in relative safety I might block off to doors to keep out visitors and totally tear the place down to the rafters. Break every toilet, sink, coffee maker, chair, couch, bed, curtains and stash whatever I cant carry in the mailbox and drop a marker for an after hours pickup.
Later game I look for targets of opportunity. I see a main loot stash through a window, why not take it. I do a lot of chopping through walls and roofs peeking around. I probably dont need another storage container full of ammo and medical supplies, but I cant pass up those big beautiful boxes of goodies.
When you find a sniper rifle or M60 it makes all the skulking around in the dark worth it!
I feel “end game” is Tier 6 infested quests.
Most efficient way to get there is infested quest where you need to clear the entire POI anyway.
I guess you could do hundreds of buried supplies or A LOT of fetch only…
Plus with the exception of treasure maps reward crates the only way to get the best gear (tier 6) is to craft it. And the majority of stuff you need to craft tier 6 is not found in the main loot. It’s the cloth, leather, legendary parts, etc etc etc you find along the way.
Going straight for the main loot also feels cheap to me. I don’t have a problem with someone else doing it, we’re all just having fun it’s just not my preferred play style. I want to earn that loot through a challenge.
Yup. What @pApA0LeGBa said. If it stacks, I keep it one me and fill the stack. I always clear the POIs, I'll leave 'caches' throughout, generally fridges if the places has them, or Book deposits ie, book shelves etc. So when i'm done a quick run thru and collect everything up quickly. And yea, fill the truck or gyro, depending. Cloth is a huge bear in this version, unlike most other versions where it falls in your lap. if the poi has lots of furniture..nursery home, high rise, before I leave i'll smash everything. Time consuming? Yes. Fun? For me? Absolutely. I just love smashing stuff! And I'm a horder, this game has always helped me scatch my ocd/adhd itch Lol Namaste 🙏
Double dipping is not bad early on but it gets boring by mid game.
Heck mid game I'm normally set and just wanna murder zombies lol
Going to POI, don't accept mission yet, go in, clear and loot. Put loot in minibike, accept mission, POI resets, do POI and loot again.
Yes...this. Especially in the early game.
Yeah...running back to the trader takes a lot of time too, so there are only so many you can do in a row quickly. Interesting to see the data though. I'm always salvaging and looking for books so I almost always run through an entire POI, except for really early game when I'm sometimes just looking at fetches for quick gains.
I only go into the Wasteland at night to kill Dire wolves and infected bears. They give the best loot and in large quantities.
How do you do this early game though?
@@Re3Ns Initially I am focused on developing stealth, night bonuses, and sniper rifle. Of course, I'm not going straight to the wasteland, first I need to unlock some bonuses and equipment.
@@Re3Nsmaybe not early early but if one were to come across a toilet knife or toilet pistol and ammo along with some cobblestone that would be very doable and probably about the most efficient way to get loaded.
Update: I came across a knife, pistol, stun baton, 70 concrete mix, and a claw hammer running around a desert town by the night of day 2. I’ll spend the night seeing if I can build a bike then try to head to the wasteland to hunt red bags at some point on day 3.
Money is power my guys I'm setting on 10mil
@@sorcesscores5366 Good luck bro! Those zombie bears and wolves are bullet sponges, unless you use some spike traps to soften them up first.
Min/max? Might as well just spawn in items.
Immersion is king for me. Pretending it’s real is much more fun
I agree completely. I was hoping this video would discuss clearing then looting versus looting as you clear. Interesting info but this won't affect my gameplay personally.
In a real life survival situation min/maxing is the difference between life and death.
Great explanation. What is great to loot is Surprising the Trash you find about the world. I bet you could live in 7 days to die, by just looting trash. You do get a lot of seeds. I don't know if Trash or Bird nest respawn in the world like on the road or other places not connected to a POI which might get reset due to a quest there.
T5 Fetch/Clear... looking hours for the last zombie, that maybe you'll never find 🤣
Oh yeah, that elusive trigger point that somehow didn't get triggered... ugh. That or the lone vulture that wandered off.
What's your opinion of double looting?
(Double looting) the POI before activating the quest to reset the poi
He's probably going to think we're neurotic for doing it lol I do the same thing. Choose a quest, clear the poi, activate the quest, clear the poi. It's a packrat's dream - everyone else's nightmare and compared to the clears he does in the video, very time consuming.
I make a lot of dukes selling mechanical parts, electrical parts, etc., so I always go through and salvage most everything from a poi - and I may as well loot while I'm at it. Works for me.
One factor that you may have missed is that looting main stashes only will result in more transports to and from locations, and those often take several minutes too. Thank you for your interesting analysis.
The issue tends to be that I need the stuff that isn't in the end POI loot or given in loot rewards. I need the cloth, the polymer, the water the armour parts, the thread. Yes you can buy little bits of those from the vendor sometimes. But cloth - I need say a thousand pieces and before I get my farming skills up looting a whole POI (one with curtains and beds) is the best way to do it. There is an army base with bunk beds where each room nets me about 200 cloth. The trader never has more than 30 or 40, and often none at all.
Yeah, i didnt understand this either. And dont you get better loot from quests? You cant just go snag the end loot in a quest. Unless its a fetch or buried supplies and the end loot is usually awful for those. Plus youre never gonna get all the other stuff you need just snagging loot, like cloth or polymer. It really feels like he doesnt understand the game. You do quests cause you get better loot and rewards. And the infested quests have an extra infested loot chest.
Plus people who find themselves short on cloth or this or that those things are consistently found through normal looting same with books and legendary parts I find more in random lootables than end stash honestly
Not me double looting tier 4 and 5 infested POIs 😂
The experience will change as your perks and clothing sets increase.
Early game - Full Clear (curtains, sofas, cloth patches, chairs, the lot)
Mid game - just the main full loot
End game - just survive 😂
Me casually salvaged the entire T5: 2 Days! take it or leave it.
Lmao. I really need to do a video on salvaging.
"Almost as much loot", What? The T3/T4 main x5 that was shown was way better. Way more books, mods, ammo, dukes/cash, all the important stuff. Wasn't even close and it did win by a landslide.
The only noticeable/useful thing I saw full clears getting more of was armor parts, which makes sense because you usually find those in clothing piles and closets.
Not really. Sure few more books and such but look at total rows filled. And once again as stated in the video you would loot the same t4 poi 5 times in a row. Heck you wouldn't even look 2 t4's in a row. So considering they were so close, an educated guess would tell you in a normal situation they would be about the same.
@@Firespark81 Almost double the books or 5x more mods or a couple ammo vs full stacks of ammo isn't just "a few more" bro.
Who cares about the number of rows filled? Why do you think 1 feather or 1 fat is equal to a full stack of ammo? Those would be the first things left behind in a real situation. You also have vehicles for storage. You can easily hit up multiple T3/4 main loots in a row with some common sense loot management.
And if you were going to even think about farming main loot to begin with, it wouldn't be a stretch to also be resetting POIs with the quest logout trick or doing the slightly less cheesy pre-loot before starting quest trick. Even if you were going to set limits to not do that, just hitting all T3+ main loots as you come across them is better than not, especially if you hit the jackpot with a Grover High.
You are totally missing the whole point. But whatever.
@@Firespark81 Nah, you're just out of touch and came to the wrong conclusion, based on your personal feelings instead of the evidence you literally showed in the video. Or you think you can only do one or the other and hitting the main loot whenever it makes sense to somehow erases the fact it's clearly a better use of time.
Thinking people normally do T5s in 10mins already illustrated that point by itself though. But whatever gets you clicks and engagement.
And don't worry, it's the last click you get from me. This vid and it's conclusion was almost pointless to watch.
It only took me a little over 10 min to clear the t5 poi that is 100% a fact. I love when people try to argue times with me when they have no concept of it because they are playing the game not paying attention and just think they know how much time passed. And as I stated in the video some may be larger but we are looking at averages on normal clears not mission clears like infested and such.
You clearly didn't watch the whole video, skipped through it probably, and didn't listen to half of what I said. You also put way to much value in a few extra books that are in most cases useless and vendor fodder. You also got a ton of projection going there talking about basing conclusions on feelings instead of facts. Fact is you are not looting 5 t4 poi's main loot quickly back to back maybe 3 or 4 t3's but even then the loot will be very different between those. If you watch my videos showing the t3 main loot locations you can see that. I know what Im talking about because I spend hours analyzing this crap. It's kinda my job.
And if you think you threatening to never watch one of my videos again somehow hurts me or my feelings all I can say is hahahaha. Cheers!
What I found interesting is that not one of your looting boxes had a legendary part. I find them on day one or at least 5 to 10 in the first 7 days. I have found them in a trash pile I spawn next to on day one. Most of them at lower levels come from trash in my games.
Interesting expiriment. I double loot almost everything. Do a run-thru and get as much as I possibly can while taking my time to memorize what "puzzles" need to be overcome. Then I will put everything in a crate AFTER pressing the ! button and do it again; this time much faster. When getting to mid-end game it is also good to keep in the back on one's head that ALL POIs have loot that is not even usable early game. Going into a T1/2/3 to tear apart for mechanical parts or other things that are needed later in-game is a lot easier than trying to find them in POI 4/5.
Always remember when playing 7 Days to Die . . . find the cooking pot and that is a jump in/jump out ordeal on it's own on days 1 and 2.
I would like to see a video on what objects are worth looting? like toilets have water, garment bags clothes or cloth fragments, so is foul trash EVER worth looting? what about luggage? just knowing what loot objects are worth opening would save a lot of time. (going over the value or things like bundled cardboard pallets and building material pallets in pois would also be nice)
Everything is worth looting to some extent. Even late game, opening the container is worth it just for the EXP. Each container you open give you exp equals to your game stage (or maybe loot stage, but IIRC it's gamestage). So, early on, it's next to nothing. But when you reach late game, you get more EXP opening container than killing zombies.
@@kenbovr9199 hot tips! i didnt know thanks
The advantage to looting a whole POI is you get more balanced loot, especially as it relates to food and water. A big disadvantage of only going after main stashes is you skip kitchens and bathrooms. Once your a good garden and several dew collectors this becomes mute.
Very true.
I take my time and loot everything as well as scrap everything, I may only get 1 or 2 POI's finished in an in-game day. By looting everything possible I find myself with plenty of crafting materials in just a couple days. By week 2 or 3 I end up with more stuff than I need and sell excess to the trader, some items like polymers and electrical parts bring in big $$$ the best money thing I've found so far without cheating is to make a large farm 100 or more plots and farm Super Corn, chrysanthemum, and goldenrod.
I think how you loot really depends on what you are trying to achieve. Going after the main loot only might help a lower level player get an equipment boost without a major fight. This all depends on knowledge of where the main loot is in the first place with might not be known to new players. There are a few POIs where the main loot is visible from the outside. Grover High comes to mind where it is visible through the windows in the lobby.
At higher levels, I might pick the main loot when I need an ammo boost and don't just need stuff you get from clearing the building. At a lower level when I need stuff, I'll clear lower level POIs.
I usually do no trader runs and for most of the game I run around looking for easily accessible kitchens, mailboxes, food trucks, toilets and vehicles. The only places I’ll fully clear are bookstores and military bases/outposts.
Don't forget about Savage Country as it's the best place to loot Legendary Parts
@@whyismynametaken123 yessir
My play style is completionist. I place two storage boxes in front of the poi then run the entire poi. Looting and salvaging everything. Then I start the quest. This run through I loot everything and only salvage the main items. Doing it this way takes longer yes but it also keeps you from having to go do any mining or forestry.
Doesn’t starting the mission remove your placed chest in the poi?
@@seanmaconaughey5573you need to place it outside the border of where the POI is triggered. If the POI I’m doing is right on the side of the road for example I clear it then dump in a box I placed on the other side of the road from POI. Then I start quest and clear it all again. Gotta make sure you don’t place box on property of POI.
About 9:55 I loot it all but run through so all the zombies can be put down and have some building blocks and keep my gyro with me so if I do tower's I put my gyro down then use it toget to my truck to deposit inventory then use gyro to get back to where I was then rinse and repeat till poi is looted
That's been how I did it since games release on ps4
So if you leave the game whist having the mission active it will reset again I've done a house 6 time before
Wait so go to quest. Clear poi. Start quest. Clear. Then cause quest to fail and clear again?
i always loot and salvage everything, because i like building, so i need a lot of resources
I feel like a big thing that's missed here is the amount of loot, dukes, and exp you get if you're hitting those POIs for a quest instead, and the addition of stuff like infested crates. The way my group usually does it is we get a quest, get to the area, hit the loot room, then restart the PoI and do the quest so we get to hit the loot room twice. You then also get Dukes and rewards for however many people completed the quest too and it adds up quick especially at end game.
Double looting a poi like that is very good for sure but if you have the means to carry lots of loot and you are maximizing your time you 100% want to hit all the poi's next to the quest poi. Because running back and forth to the trader then to new poi is going to waste a ton of time to travel.
It cracks me up when you say i can get thru a tier 5 in 10 minutes... i'm like an hour r/l LOL if not longer, but i do loot everything...
Yeah, i usually bring extra supplies and plan to spend the night. The large POI's have so many resources to get and I'm slow to begin with ... lol
That army base didn't take me long at all just shy of 11 min. But once again I focused on getting through it didn't linger and killed fast. But it is big I can imagine it easily taking longer if you're not working on stats for a video and just having fun.
@@Firespark81 I'm having fun, but I'm also a big chicken and go slow.. hahaha Lvl 6 gear and stun baton. but when i wake up a large group.... The fight or flight kicks in! LOL
The best bang for your time is the tier 5 invested quests. In other words a tier 4 poi that's infested. You can do them is a fraction of time time the tier 6 quests, and won't burn near as much ammo.
You use ammo that much? I almost always just melee everything. I hardly ever use a gun. Gun is basically my oh crap weapon lol.
i fail hi level poi only cause I can't find the zomberts , i search and make all the noise and still cant find them.
I havent had that problem at all this time. There have been times when one fell off the roof and I had to find him but I have notvhad one I couldnt find yet.
A wrench and running around the wasteland scrapping cars, checking rubbish piles and hunting were wolves and demon bears effectively makes all poi's an their loot pointless. Best game loot is from these red loot bags. Sell all scrapped parts from cars and buy hacker /eye candy at vending machines. This can be done from game start. To be honest they really need to nerf the red loot bag drop in wasteland as its killed poi's loot runs.
Wow I didn't realize those loot bags were so good.
@@blainebickle1178 yes the amount of higher tier weapons, ammo and books you can get from those loot bags is unreal...not to mention armor and treasure maps.The best i have gotten was 2 full rows of loot in one bag.
TLDR: Just play the game how you like. 😂
Exactly 😁👍
I am still pretty new to the game. so i search through everything and take everything i can. i also look for alternatives to how i am going to go through the poi. i do not like to follow a designated path.
8:00 Your suggestions here seem backwards to me. Unless you've already spent an insane amount of time in a world, you won't be anywhere near max level (300) or close enough to even have a full build. Hence, xp is a *very* valuable resource, especially as your level goes up and the amount needed to reach the next level starts to get quite significant (that xp amount maxes out after hitting level 60 and won't get any higher, but it's like over 120,000 xp per level at that point). Conversely, in the early game, levels come very quickly and easily and you're very much in need of loot to gear up, get food, drink, medical supplies, building materials, etc. etc. to get setup and perpetuate your survival, hence I'd say doing smash-and-grabs on main loots (especially of like T3 POIs) in the early game is more worthwhile than actually fully clearing T1s in terms of loot per time and getting what you need to get started. Eventually you will want to bust out quests usually to get T1 completion rewards for the free Bicycle fairly soon though. So I'd argue that it's actually earlygame where smash and grabs make the most sense. Later on, you want to full clear, even if you start ignoring minor loot containers like trash piles and such because they rarely if even have *valuable* loot. The real art that veteran players slowly learn is knowing which containers are worth your time and which ones you should just ignore, and the same is also true of what loot you should actually take and what you just leave behind in most cases (30 small stones from a trash pile is pointless by midgame when you can mine them by the 1000s easily and that inventory is better tasked with holding something valuable like parts or ammo or food etc.)
Oh I see the confusion. That's my bad. Max level is 60 or just at what ever point you specifically feel op is what I meant. Not true Max level 300. Sorry I don't even think about 300. It's absurd. Most people are op by 40 or 50. Everyone is op by 60 even if you make some trash build.
@@Firespark81 Yea that's a side effect of rising lootstage and gear progression stemming from it. That said, on more challenging settings, the difference between a good build and a bad one is massive. I think level 1 to level 2 is like not even 10,000 xp, but level 60 to 61 is like over 180,000 xp. So leveling slows considerably as you increase in level.
True but I base all data on default settings as things get messy when you start changing settings. This also gives everyone a good baseline idea of the topic I'm talking about and how those settings will affect their game. But yea sorry for the confusion.
I'd say this is true for books but if you're looking for weapons and ammo those are mostly going to be in the main loot containers
How quickly people forget the toilet gun lmao
@@Firespark81 I've sadly never found the poo pistol yet XD but ive found a tier 4 knife that carried me through a week of stabbyness lol
What POI I full clear, full loot or shortcut varies by what kind of containers are in them and how accessible the end loot is. I don't remember what block to break and stuff like that for most poi, but I can make educated guesses based on the look of the poi.
Short answer is I will loot/scrap/kill based on my needs at the moment. POI with extra book containers I will be more likely to go through entirely until my build is complete and I have the important sets of books. Medical/food poi I'll be more likely to fully loot early on, but will likely ignore extra loot in the mid-late game. POI with the final loot simply sitting on the roof/other obvious spots I'll be more likely to steal it and leave.
Interesting. I'm a lot goblin so I tend to always loot all the things no matter the game stage I'm at, early or late. But thems the loot goblin ways.
@@Firespark81 heh, this is one of the reasons I cannot play with my brother. He'll be encumbered basically all the time and insisting on looting everything, in spite of dying from being unable to manouver and progressing super slow. He can't explain the benefit to his playstyle, but he can't resist doing it.
not "Are You Looting Wrong" but "Am I Looting Wrong"
please do not mistakes.
I haven't played the new game much, yet. I clear everything
and move on.
you forget to mention (maybe because you play a lot and know the exact location)
new player won't know the location of the loot room. and it's impossible to have 5 exact poi in the same location.
so the time you take to search online where loot room is will be longer than just go full loot the poi.
I think difficulty level plays a big part. Just started an insane+deathless attempt and out of five quests so far, I've full cleared two only - one was a diner on day 1 (I badly needed food and water, so I not only full cleared but double dipped and cleared twice), and a Book Barn (very good POI, especially early when you *need* workstation and armor books).
Otherwise, the juice just isn't worth the squeeze. Even setting up a zed killing area outside the POI, it's a lot effort when my stamina regen and weapon are both awful.
I suspect my attitude will change though as I get more ammo. But that's 7d2d in a nutshell - tough early game, easy late game.
Yea this test was done on full default settings. But for sure changing settings could drastically change the experience and timings.
If you want your best chances at finding legendary parts then you want to loot entire POI's as there are a lot of different containers which can spawn those.
Love your content 🙂
Thank you!
The good thing about looting is that if you just go full assassin with machete it's pure profit 😂 I can't come away from it honestly. I'm on day 64 and I have almost 2 upgraded storage of 762 and 9mm each, a full box of shells and 3/4 box of 44 and I have crafted maybe 500 bullets just for some AP rounds lol
/not to self don't watch these videos /
What about doing a double-loot on quest POI's?
Scavenger set and the perk in spear skill tree are insane for loot
Which perk?
Did you by any chance say "spear skill tree" to mean Perception in general?!? (and the 3 Scavenging Perks in there in particular?) o.O
Most of the time I do a full getting everything. It's slower but I don't mind.
This is the way. The loot goblin way. 😁
I do entire POI and salvage everything in it most of the time, but am still lower level and need everything
cool😀
what poi is this? What is it's location?
That was a ton more loot just getting the main stashes 5 times
Like I told the other person who said this and like I said in the video. It's skewed. Wasn't to much more and you would loot the same one 5 times. You could possibly loot 5 t3's or 2's in a row but in most cases it will be mixed and will end up being the same. Try it. You'll see.
Organize early! Or be kicked from the party...
Lol
Sorry but I’m calling bullshit here!! It takes you on average less than 2 mins to clear the end zombies in a tier 5? So over 20 rads in 120seconds….Thats BS!
then you are doing it wrong. I place two turrets, grab the loot, pick up the turrets and leave. most 5s I already have ladders and/or tunnels built so I can walk strait to the loot
Ah right so cheesing it! You’re ok I’d rather play the game properly and fight the zombies. Thanks
I fully loot, then I'll salvage everything lol I'm there a while but I walk away with tons of loot.
This is essy on lower difficulty i play on insane soo everything is hrs long especially damn tier 6 missions
In early game you need everything. So why not loot everything from poi.
Pretty sure that's what I said in the video lol
shouldn't perk books be considered here? I mean it also depends on what kind of run/playthrough your going for though.
However the lucky looter series of books isn't a huge boost but it helps and hitting many containers vs a few main loot containers seems like it would effect results here as well?
This is just a base line. I had no loot perks active. Because if one option was to give more loot at baseline then any perks would just further improve it.
@@Firespark81 Yea I'm grateful ya took the time to test it i was just wondering about the loot rolls in comparison to the number of containers.
In theory the more loot piles you loot the more rolls the perks from the perk books would get to effect the outcome.
does hitting main loot 4-5x times have more or less containers than a poi have in total. Its interesting and something i'll have to check out myself next time i play.
Oh I see what you are saying. I think that's all a matter of the size of the poi. So in some cases maybe others maybe not.
This video is useless. Cheese if you want. It takes the fun out of the experience.
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You obviously didn't even watch the video or listen to what I said. But thanks for the engagement!
Usually full loot for me
If you want to get the most XP the fastest then do infested clear trader quests. But those are usually not worth doing the highest levels of those unless you're just doing them for the challenge because of how much ammo you use.
I am 100% a loot whore XD and i will take literally everything lol prolly not the best for being optimized but i like to take my time anyway, but after watching some of your vids and looting poi's a decent amount i have just ninja'd loot a few times especially if i can see it and I'm in a tough area.
The loot in V1.0 just isn´t worth it to not get all the stuff from salavaging in a POI. Cloth. You need a TON of it in this version. Also polymers for dew collectors. Brass for bullets. Corpses for rotten meat and animal fat. I mean snagging a main loot every once in a while is ok, but generally you should rather get what you can in a POI. You should really regulary play a game when doing guides.
you should ask "peaceful protesters" how to loot properly ...
Damn, I forgot to laugh
😂 thx i needed that
I have never seen a POI zombie drop a loot bag. I have 1800 hours in the game
I have them drop at least one loot bag in the first week.
That's just bizarre. They drop loot bags for me all the time. Every run on a tier 5 or 6 POI I get one or two.
@@PaulRoneClarke wandering hordes or or night are the only times I recall seeing loot bags
That is weird. I get loot drops from amost any random Z. Not every time but regular enough if a little rare.
Every zombie no matter where or how it spawns has a chance to drop a loot bag. There is nothing in the xml files that states any different. They drop pretty regularly in POI's.
even at max level, you still need to find/travel in between said POI's if you just want to loot main stash.
might as well just clear the damn place XD