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  • @recordingrevolution
    @recordingrevolution  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

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    • @crimewavbeats5532
      @crimewavbeats5532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I even master in mono,only for loudness though

  • @israel6319
    @israel6319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +792

    This was first passed down to Dre by Quincy Jones so we know this is gotta be something serious to consider.

    • @Professoar
      @Professoar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that is some sick plug!

    • @Barncore
      @Barncore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is that true? Is there any link that can verify that?

    • @israel6319
      @israel6319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Barncore watch Quincy documentary. It starts with Dre talking about quincy and how he learned a lot from him. Quincy used to use crappy speakers to mix so all those secrets have been passed down to nowadays producers.

    • @john.roseboro
      @john.roseboro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      eww this is so bad you should repent

    • @unvox
      @unvox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bruce Swedien

  • @CaughtInTheLoop
    @CaughtInTheLoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    Mixing in Mono is definitely the best tips you have ever given me. It's still so underrated. Thank you so much, Graham! Without your help I would never be able to mix my own songs today

    • @alexisbangin
      @alexisbangin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      so u basically mix in monon but after u put it in stereo or what? Or u leave all the sounds in mono forever?

    • @CaughtInTheLoop
      @CaughtInTheLoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@alexisbangin Exactly. You mix in mono when you EQ, compress and try to get the balance right. And when you apply spatial effects like reverb and delay you turn in back to stereo. It just helps you to get more clarity

    • @hitz4days875
      @hitz4days875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jonas Music so do you put all your tracks in mono or just the stereo bus?

    • @CaughtInTheLoop
      @CaughtInTheLoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hitz4days875 You put the Mix Buss/Stereo Out in Mono which turns all the tracks in Mono without doing it for each individual track

    • @Rosecityking1986
      @Rosecityking1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CaughtInTheLoop thanks for the knowledge.

  • @maxiguess2291
    @maxiguess2291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I remember hearing "don't mix with headphones, they lie to you" and I never knew what it meant. Now I completely understand

    • @kingbingbong1920
      @kingbingbong1920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yeah no cap only mix on headphones if it’s your only option. i have no studio monitors, and my laptop has garbage speakers. there are a lot of things you have to know if you’re gonna mix in headphones, and mono is probably the most important. still amateur as hell tho so it’s a learning process

    • @supertrainmaniac
      @supertrainmaniac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      minusign yep so true, as soon as you play it through some speakers everything sounds completely different

    • @ottmarmiller5282
      @ottmarmiller5282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I only mix with headphones because i don't have Monitors. But i have a EQ with mono function on my master, so I always mix in mono. My shit sounds amazing on phone speakers, on apple earbuds. That's how I know i'm mixing right.

    • @flamersss
      @flamersss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottmarmiller5282 how do you get it to sound good on the phone?

    • @tymhir
      @tymhir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flamersss mixing in mono

  • @davidamada7191
    @davidamada7191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Never felt so proud of my low budget headset

  • @garthstrydom
    @garthstrydom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    What I normally do is change the master to mono and then physically turn one speaker off, I like to mix in stereo and always double check in mono, its amazing what gets exposed.

    • @novacultmusic
      @novacultmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is going too sound strange, but Im curious, do you then look at the monitor so that your nose is pointed at the cone, or do you keep the live speaker on the side it's on, looking ahead for any reason? (almost like a mono pan) cheers.

  • @moroprod4807
    @moroprod4807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    So far the guidaline for me are.
    IN MONO:
    Balance/Volume/Amplitude
    EQ/Frequencies/Tonality
    Dynamics/Compression/Expasion/Gating/Limiting
    Saturation/Distortion/Tape/Tube emulators and so on.
    IN STEREO:
    Spacing/Panning/Phasing/Choruses/Flangers/Reverbs/Delays/Mid | Side or Left or Right EQ
    mostly(mid.side)
    And I when I doing spacing in stereo, if I have to eq or compress. I reference it again in Mono.

    • @je6566
      @je6566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep gotta have that mide side to address clashing phases from multiple frequencies

    • @crisnla1
      @crisnla1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated comment …

  • @heavymetalmixer91
    @heavymetalmixer91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I don't mix in mono but I check in Mono often. I mix in headphones, but I do have crappy speakers and headphones and hecking in them does help.
    Another way to check the mids it's to put an EQ on the mix bus and put a HPF on 200Hz and a LPF on 6KHz.

  • @CalvinMOfficial
    @CalvinMOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    This is how old school mixers used to mix all the time. We start on the Auratone, then to NS10, then to the Genelecs, done! Auratone would take up 70% of the mixing duties, then the NS10's would take the next 20%, then the final 10% on the genelecs.

    • @gregmcveigh9966
      @gregmcveigh9966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And then sit in the car and have a listen!

  • @AndrewGrosso
    @AndrewGrosso 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My left speakers been broken for months, this video makes me feel better about my life lol

  • @PeachesChrenko
    @PeachesChrenko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    No haven't mixed in mono or used a crappy speaker for mixing but I'm gonna try this. Maybe I'll finally not hate my mixes! Fingers crossed🙂

    • @RussTafari
      @RussTafari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mixing in mono will definitely help

    • @PeachesChrenko
      @PeachesChrenko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RussTafari Good to know!

    • @MacDaddyBlack546
      @MacDaddyBlack546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Peaches Chrenko You should always test it on different speakers. studio ones are great and all but your average person is listening in the car, off their phone speaker, or through headphones.
      that's why I car test and phone test mixes. if it doesn't sound decent in the car or off my phone, its not decent imo

    • @MellowOutBeatz
      @MellowOutBeatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you understand mixing it will

  • @SteelerY360Nation
    @SteelerY360Nation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember when I started to watch your channel, you always said to Mix in Mono. I’ll never forget this!

  • @ShinigamYpn
    @ShinigamYpn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I started doing the same thing about a year ago. Mixing on 2.1 Logitec speakers ~ $50, then when I'm happy with mix sounding "similar" to my reference mixes, then I turn on the big guns and listen for low end and low mids, get everything right and sounding as I want. Then I let go of music for two days (literally not listening to any music at all), come back and the first thing I play is on Apple earbuds. Then I really hear harsh stuff (due to rested ears) which I cut out then, adjust. Finally, finish on ATH M50x which are what usually entry level audiophiles listen to, and when it all translates across these, then I am happy. Never mixed on mono mix fully (I mix really dense metal mixes, so it's hard to get in mono popping everything I need), but I'll give it a go. Nice tips :)

    • @alejandromagana1554
      @alejandromagana1554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tried not listening music for a week for ear relieve, t was extremely difficult! This is a pro tip avobe

    • @alexisbangin
      @alexisbangin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so u basically mix in monon but after u put it in stereo or what? Or u leave all the sounds in mono forever?

    • @jgvtc559
      @jgvtc559 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexisbangin like on a 6i6 its jack 3 one speaker i believe they are just listening to one speaker not mixing actually making the track mono i could be mistaken

    • @ShinigamYpn
      @ShinigamYpn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexisbangin When you are satisfied with a mix in mono, just revert back to stereo and you'll be amazed. Then do slight adjustments if needed for stereo, but usually, from mono mix to stereo, it translates wonderfully. Of course, if you can achieve a great mono mix. Sometimes it's not fully possible, but as said in the video, this is an awesome hack to jump start your mix or move out of the stuck mix.

    • @bbeckford90
      @bbeckford90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alejandromagana1554 i love your process lol. I actually do something similar but I actually use beyerdynamic DT 880 pros instead. Was thinking about getting the m50x's. How do they perform?

  • @Brywellington
    @Brywellington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Mono mixing on JBL clip speaker for best mixes that translate to iphone - even the 808

    • @zeroUnitygain
      @zeroUnitygain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dantanya damn, I have one of those too and never use it. Now I will

    • @stefan_4508
      @stefan_4508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a jbl xtreme and I gotta start mixing my songs on that and not just on my audio technica headphones and krks

    • @ChadStegall
      @ChadStegall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As Im reading this comment and I am currently using a J.B.L clip speaker in my car.... craziness

    • @theJustScience
      @theJustScience 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is exactly what I've been using 😎🤘

  • @jazzg4570
    @jazzg4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is some good info that I needed to hear. I remember watchin a Robert Glasper interview talking about J Dilla and he was explaining how After Dilla finish a beat, he would take it in the car wit him and drive around and test out the sound in his car. He would do this because it was more important for him to hear how his music sounded in the regular everyday music players like cars and headphones than a big studio with expensive shit because that’s where the listeners are hearing their music.

    • @russellk.4896
      @russellk.4896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard Rick Rubin had a similar process in the 80s

  • @breez9602
    @breez9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've thought about this a lot , I honestly never mix in mono but now I'll definitely go through it to see what it's like and make a difference .

  • @mgrocki
    @mgrocki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Best tip I've used in my mixes by far! (Interesting that a tip is to not buy thousands of dollars worth of good speakers, but rather buy a "crappy" speaker, ha, its true though 😂)

    • @alexisbangin
      @alexisbangin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      so u basically mix in monon but after u put it in stereo or what? Or u leave all the sounds in mono forever?

    • @mgrocki
      @mgrocki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@alexisbangin yeah the idea is going back and forth, mix in mono for a bit, get balances correct, check in stereo... mix on crappy speakers, get it to sound good, check in good speakers. and ultimately when you're satisfied, final mixing on good speakers. at least that's how I try...

    • @illestofdemall13
      @illestofdemall13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexisbangin You just monitor in mono to hear the tonal balance.

  • @connor9613
    @connor9613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Around 3 years ago i started out with Lmms and basically all the sounds were mono. So when I converted to fl studio, I kept mixing in mono and then owning into stereo

  • @selfishmusic8355
    @selfishmusic8355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES I mix in mono, it changed my whole mixing quality. I would never go back on it, great video man

  • @vincentchevalier6321
    @vincentchevalier6321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coucou !
    Mono tru the little Bluetooth speaker of my daughter just saved my life today.
    Eq and balance in mono was already a excellent trick but doing it with a tiny speaker is just incredibly easier ,especialy on drum and guitars in my case.
    We can also really hear the compression and reverb effect more precisely tru a little mono speaker .
    I didn't want to experiment this trick before because i was relying on my studio monitors and it's a great mistake!
    I discovered the real midrange and finally the" real sound " of my tracks.
    I 've done the "car test" and the mix was sweet and punchy as never !
    You made confidence come to me again and it's such a great feeling :-)
    Thank u so much and take care !!!
    Vince from France

  • @6FtBeats
    @6FtBeats 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    *Mixing in Mono is good for checking the balance, but you still need to check in stereo though*

  • @zeefour
    @zeefour 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Mono trick I discovered a few year ago. I love it! I'm not a professional by any means but I have noticed that my mono mixes have been sitting great, and as soon as I turn them to stereo the whole tune comes alive.
    Mix in mono! (This doesn't mean write your music in mono)

  • @TheBATTranceMusic
    @TheBATTranceMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are absolutely an amazing guy! I'm just a hobbyist trying to make my mixdown and never thought about mono mixing. I have total respect for people like you who give your time to explain clearly and help so many people struggling out there. You are so real. Thank you!

  • @kvmoore1
    @kvmoore1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thus is very, very true!!! I've been mixing mostly in mono more recently. When I mix in mono, I can clearly hear and eliminate any phase correlation issues that might occur with panned or stereo instruments. Also. I can get a really good balance between the vocals and the instruments for the most part because I can hear them more clearly. When widening the stereo field of your tracks, ALWAYS check in mono for compatibility. If elements drop out, you have a problem. NOW is the time to fix it.
    Now, it's hard for me to clearly hear the lower midrange on my monitors so in a case like this. a crappy mono speaker would really help me get better translations in that area. One other key point that was never mentioned in the video is to listen and mix at VERY low volume. This will help you get your balance right. Turn it down to the very bare minimum and what you hear the most is what will stick out front in the mix. If you're mixing rap or any other rhythm - heavy genre, you want the attack of the kickdrum, snare, and vocals up ftont, bass just under the kick and NOT masking the vocals, and everything else in the background leveled and eqed around these elements.
    Great video. Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @southernman2
    @southernman2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep, been mixing in mono since about the mid 90s. Works great!

  • @braydenwhittaker5599
    @braydenwhittaker5599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow man! Every time I watch a video of yours I just think “wow this guy really just broke the code!” Every video you send you I learn something new and learn further then the video initially has in store. I’ve only been recording for a couple weeks, but I’ve been watching you to learn how to record for about a year and everything I do is referred back to your videos. Thanks man

  • @pstamatiou
    @pstamatiou 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So so true, mono sums the two channels into one and exposes phase shifting issues, so certain frequences disappear because opposite sound waves get added up and cancel each other, while others using the same logic accentuate.

  • @BankruptBassplayer
    @BankruptBassplayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i learned this from Conny Plank in the mid 80´s...still relevant!

  • @ZacksRealAdventures
    @ZacksRealAdventures 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned this technique a few years back, and it really made a drastic improvement with my leveling skills. I love when you cover this subject. Thanks Graham.

  • @jonnyidle
    @jonnyidle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Graham, really appreciate everything you do. Just wanted to say thank you for your non click bait approach in this video title and thumbnail. Fair play 👏

  • @JOVANNEMUSIC
    @JOVANNEMUSIC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mixing in Mono it really gives me a big view of how everything sounds and i can easily find any errors on frequencies or panning that needs to be corrected...i used some crappy headphones just to see how it sounds and also in my car ...there are a lot of ways of how to get that pro sound and one of them is tobmix in mono 100 % agreed.👍👍👍🔥🔥

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Using crappy $15 earbuds is the modern equivalent of the Auratone imo.

    • @OscarASevilla
      @OscarASevilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      My good Ole 20 dollar skullcandy earphones!!!

    • @ryugawagatekiwrokerue8443
      @ryugawagatekiwrokerue8443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      But that's still stereo and like he says it's good to start on mono

    • @VincentSebastianMusic
      @VincentSebastianMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@ryugawagatekiwrokerue8443 true but you can just make the mix mono in software

    • @splatsquatch3934
      @splatsquatch3934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The point of the auratone here is to mix in mono, saying a stereo set is the same as mono makes no sense

    • @GardeningBaron
      @GardeningBaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The point is, if you can make it sound good on those $15 headphones, then its definitely going to sound good on everything else. And what are average people listening to music on anyway? (Crappy $15 headphones)

  • @EugeneSherbakov
    @EugeneSherbakov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've just tried to listen to many of my favourite tracks in Ableton switching mono-stereo back and forth including Kendrick's mixes and what I can say - they all sound good both in mono and stereo. And I can't say this about my mixes, haha. Now it makes big sense for me: to start from mono, then EQ your mix, and then go to panning.

  • @cicmanofficial
    @cicmanofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been mixing in mono for years. It's a game changer. Great info bro.

  • @phoenixflyz_
    @phoenixflyz_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "No one sits in between speakers perfectly"... 💡

  • @AtTheSourceStudios
    @AtTheSourceStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do mix in mono but like you said "to check at the end" more or less but after you brought to light again I think I will increase the time I spend mixing in mono because it does really make sense. Everything you said... made perfect sense.

  • @bicyclevideos
    @bicyclevideos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mono mix reference has been around since the 60s when stereophonic recordings and record players first became more available. The fact is, the more a frequency is panned right or left the less presence it has in has in a monophonic field. The centered frequencies over power the panned frequencies. That's why in the 60's and 70's many albums were released in Mono and Stereo. For a while many radio stations usually only received mono versions of Rock and Pop singles until FM radio became more popular because in the U.S. FM stations usually played Classical and Jazz and AM stations (which only carried monophonic signals) played Pop, Rock and Country music.

  • @preach15316
    @preach15316 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It took discipline to commit to mixing the majority of songs in mono, but the difference you get in clarity at the end result is well worth the struggle!!! I started using this technique after I saw the first video you did about mixing in mono!! So, Thanks Graham!!!

  • @MrJoebeliever
    @MrJoebeliever 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A friend of mine gave me a genuine Auratone he’s owned since the 70’s. I just got an amp for it and have been procrastinating with getting it hooked up. This video is even more of a reason to plug it in and get started. Thanks, Graham!

  • @tucker2251
    @tucker2251 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I half-discovered this when one of my krk speakers went bad and I still wanted to make music while the other one was sent back for repair. I heard this tip a few years later and it do it on every track now. It was one of the best tips I ever heard. I try telling my friends to do the same but they won't listen. Now I start every track with an Ableton utility with the width set to zero.

  • @frankdope3898
    @frankdope3898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been unintentionally been mixing in mono ever since I got my mackie big knob. I have four monitor pairs (Hs8's & Hs5's ). On the big knob they have five buttons, one of them happens to be a "mono" function. I originally got the big knob to switch in-between monitors, but now that I have this function It instantly makes mixing so much easier. Soon as you hit the mono button you can hear the sounds you are missing so much clearer. I have found going back & fourth between the mono button & stereo standard of protools so much helpful, my work time has been cut down & my sound is becoming more clearer. Just my input, cheers!

  • @brianaltman9062
    @brianaltman9062 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't mix in mono currently but I totally see the benefit and plan to add this to my workflow immediately. Thanks Graham!

  • @TaylorKromOFFICIAL
    @TaylorKromOFFICIAL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk how many people do this, but I go back and forth from mono to stereo while im mixing, and I also mix and master at the same time and get very VERY good quality sounding final products. Sometimes i’ll start the mastering chain after barely starting the mix so that way I can almost see the future as to how the mix is effecting the master and vice versa. Hard to explain but much easier to show in person. Thanks for your videos buddy!

  • @DanDuskin
    @DanDuskin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I do about half my EQing in mono, check mono regularly, and do about half my mix on a pair of very small Genelec 8010A’s that are behind me at the back wall and so close to each other they are touching. The rest of the time I’m on full range high-end Barefoot MicroMain 27’s. Mixes translate to almost everything.

    • @AkilisMusic
      @AkilisMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats the reason to position the genelecs behind you so closed together if i may ask?

    • @DanDuskin
      @DanDuskin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AkilisMusic I got the idea from top mixers like Michael Brauer and Chris Lord-Alge. They don't use the same speakers for this task, but instead they use a small boombox that they keep behind them. The idea is that you are listening to 2 rather small speakers that are so close together and far enough away from you that it's "almost" mono. This gives a perspective that is very similar to the way a lot of people listen to music... such as listening on a bluetooth speaker, laptop, computer speakers, boombox, etc., while you are in a different area of the room.

    • @AkilisMusic
      @AkilisMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanDuskin wow that sounds pretty interesting, but do you face the speakers or have your back turned on them while mixing?

    • @DanDuskin
      @DanDuskin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AkilisMusic I don't usually face them, I find that by having the sound come into the back of my ears it's much closer to the effect you get when you are listening on a small stereo as you move about the room. It's very rare that most music listeners have the speakers facing them directly so I need to know what that sounds like in contrast to my main monitors that have the optimal positioning in front of me.

    • @AkilisMusic
      @AkilisMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanDuskin nice that's very interesting stuff thanks for sharing that i'll give this a shot in the future!

  • @Darksagan
    @Darksagan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching Ali mix. I know he has splits his bass frequencies and side chains the higher frequencies.I still find it hard as hell to get the low end that he displays on Kendrick's album.

  • @nocturnaljk
    @nocturnaljk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    Says NS 10's sound crappy
    Uses KRK monitors

    • @Naindurth
      @Naindurth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I stopped the video when he said that. It's like when you hear SM57 or SM58 are crap... it's a tool, if you don't know how to use it, don't say it doesn't work.

    • @AceDeclan
      @AceDeclan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ns10s are my favourite monitors ever

    • @zeroUnitygain
      @zeroUnitygain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Naindurth MAMADAS

    • @cornbobrimlove7892
      @cornbobrimlove7892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      NS 10's are well known for sounding like total dog shit. Yes those KRKs do sound more pleasing to the ear than a harsh high mid vomiting NS 10.

    • @fortwinty240
      @fortwinty240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You may not like ns but they krk 5s are not better than ns10s ... sorry guys

  • @awfnotethewackbeatmaker5206
    @awfnotethewackbeatmaker5206 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely right. Especially when mixing pianos (in stereo). MIx in mono first, then adjust to stereo.

  • @koineking
    @koineking 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video Graham! I saw the episode of Pensado's Place where Ali revealed this mono mixing method. I subsequently bought an Auratone and am preparing to use it for my first mix! To acclimate my ears to it, I've been listening to all my favorites through it so I will have a better frame of reference of what my final mix should sound like! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

  • @PPP777HHH
    @PPP777HHH 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it really time consuming trying to mix in stereo rather than mono because I keep making adjustments. His points are really spot on in this video 👍🏻

  • @shadowu745
    @shadowu745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    perfect timing to get this as a recommendation

  • @BROfficialTheIndigoChampion1
    @BROfficialTheIndigoChampion1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't realize that this was helping my music until now, but I just do a mono output when I'm producing out of my interface, then when I'm done I'm always blown away when I listen to the wave file in stereo.

  • @timothymcgraw1
    @timothymcgraw1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    been mixing in mono for a year or so. absolutely love it. especially when i forget it's in mono and wonder why it doesn't sound as wide as it should be. then you take it off mono and it sounds amazing. no crappy speakers though, need to get/find some.

  • @CatoNoise
    @CatoNoise 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Auratones! And yeah, I agree - it's really important to check your mix on unforgiving speakers, and check in mono! I use a plugin for checking in mono though. Thanks for another great video!

  • @mixstaraudio
    @mixstaraudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm an audio engineer of 10+ years, and i have never really been interested in mixing mono until recently when my co engineer at my studio showed me that he mixes in mono, and his work speaks for its self! I thought id go out and see what all the uss was about and i have to say im definitely looking forward to trying it out and seeing how it comes out for me.

  • @GabrielXDrums
    @GabrielXDrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what makes the UAD Apollo system so amazing is that while you have your speakers plugged into the interface you can literally hit the MONO control on the front panel of the hardware and it sums down the mix INTO mono on the fly until you hit it again to revert back to stereo on both speakers, really life saving.

  • @farisfirdaus4744
    @farisfirdaus4744 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I do have mid-range desktop speakers. I use them a lot to check and double check my mixes, and it works.

  • @zeroUnitygain
    @zeroUnitygain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Never did in audio school. I started and bought a Behringer Behritone glossy black used after you mentioned it in a video! I knew because of Graham.

  • @periseanbaltimore4064
    @periseanbaltimore4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was GOLD, thanks Graham

  • @zyad1776
    @zyad1776 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes, i mix in mono for about 40 percent of the mix and it does really help to clearly identify the masking problems and helps in making decisions for eqing and compression

  • @radsy5821
    @radsy5821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always mix in mono. And a big +1 for Airwindows Monitoring for those without treated rooms, it really helps to check on different setups and when mixing on cans to simulate crossfeed.

  • @poorhouz5051
    @poorhouz5051 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do mix in mono 1st. It is a great strategy. It can be tricky if you don't know what to listen for on each track!!! Salute Graham

  • @spacemanpope1805
    @spacemanpope1805 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Graham has that radio-ready voice too. Lol Thank you for being one of my teachers.

  • @gatewoodsensei
    @gatewoodsensei 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started mixing in mono. Dude. It brought so much clarity to my mix. Everything sounded a lot cleaner.

  • @dennislaplant4572
    @dennislaplant4572 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES, I always mix in mono with my NS-10's, then compare it in stereo mode with headphones & other playback sources. Mono does not lie, on crappy speakers. Early "Beatle" mixes were in mono as well !

  • @jidoebaltimore188
    @jidoebaltimore188 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a old ass 15 inch house speaker from the 80s and a receiver. Glad I never trashed them. Cant wait till tommorow to try this

  • @dopelbangersentertainment.2557
    @dopelbangersentertainment.2557 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great tool you are giving to us for free. thank you!

  • @HenryMittnacht
    @HenryMittnacht 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I learned from you and your Mixing University course, Graham! It´s awesome!!!

  • @jeffleiva
    @jeffleiva 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Started doing this 2 years ago, really changed the way my mixes sound, specially when I play them in my friend’s cars, no more embarrassing bad mixes lol

  • @scottbaxendale323
    @scottbaxendale323 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mono mixing allows you to better hear any phasing problems. My API Console has a mono button that instantly changes between mono and stereo. My old Ghost console has that button too. The Beatles mixed their records to mono first. Stereo mixes for the Beatles was an afterthought until they made Abby Road.

  • @ArthurDhaeyerMusic
    @ArthurDhaeyerMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes mixing in mono has change a lot to me for a year or two ! I also use bleutooth speakers from time to time !

  • @joeson20fr1
    @joeson20fr1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mixing in mono is one of the best way to get your mix ready for any listening environement.In protools i just use the air stock plugins on my mix bus for all my EQuing and leveling decision and switch back to stereo for fx and final balance....great tips bro! Now i ll get myself some crappy computer speakers for experiencing that trick bro thx again...

  • @Wegotbeats
    @Wegotbeats 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used mono to check for delay but I've never tried to mix in it. I will try. Thanks!

  • @kid_rajah
    @kid_rajah 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought about mixing in mono but I usually mix in Mobile headphones first before I go to a Bluetooth speaker and scale up to monitors and even listen in a standard car stereo. You won’t believe how much of a change can be found doing that.

  • @baileymaloney6083
    @baileymaloney6083 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great post man, mixing in mono is great because it allows you to focus on mixing frequencies first as opposed to using space to keep instruments from masking others in the same frequency range. I mean it works, but if you can use frequency cuts & boosts first, then you can basically use space & panning to it’s potential and really give your sound a whole nother dimension.🙏🏼 Turns a good mix into a great one.

  • @Mouseratfan
    @Mouseratfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    going to try on my next mix. never heard of doing this. always viewed things the opposite way so its refreshing to hear another view point. awesome advice.

  • @HugoBechstein
    @HugoBechstein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mixing in mono is a yes from me. It’s definitely the way to go especially when it comes to achieving a great volume balance (including eq, etc), which is critical for the future of the mix.
    Now, working on a crappy speaker makes no sense to me at all. We need a reference speaker or set of speakers, otherwise we are not hearing what we recorded but a crappy attempt to reproduce what we recorded on a speaker that just can’t handle any level of accuracy. Originally the crappy mono speakers where used in the studios as a quick and cheap way to check mono compatibility but no one would work on them for prolonged amounts of time since it will produce frequencies that will get your ears fatigued, among many other reasons.
    Regarding the NS10’s... we all know the story why they were started to be used in the first place so that’s another no from me. That’s my personal opinion, I’ll leave it there since I am perfectly aware that there’s people who love them.
    So in short, guys, buy the best possible set of monitor speakers and try and make great sounding mixes there. Other than that approach... it makes no sense to me UNLESS your budget is so limited that you can’t afford good equipment, in which case... just nevermind the gear and keep on doing what you can until you can buy better gear.
    That’s my two cents. Peace out.

  • @marcelerasmus444
    @marcelerasmus444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't think of mixing in mono - however always reference while mixing how the mix sounds in mono. Thank you for this informative video man!

  • @chrisfeatherstone9691
    @chrisfeatherstone9691 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mixing in mono is also great for checking for phase issues. The phase button on our daws doesn’t adjust the phase. The industry has this wrong. It multiplies the amplitude by -1. A*Sin(x+phi) where phi is phase and A is amplitude. Mathematically:
    -A*Sin(x) = A*Sin(x+180). This is where they got the “phase invert” button from. It should be labeled -A on the button in our daws. The situations where the phase invert button would work are when you record a drum head with two mics equidistant on each side of the drum head (top and bottom). The air pressure causes one amplitude to go positive and the other to go negative on a strike. As the drum head vibrates the air pressure changes polarity on each mic. In other situations you’ll still end up with a phase issues regardless of multiplying by -1.

  • @atr8126
    @atr8126 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mix in stereo usually, but then I check my mix in mono to see if there is a difference or to identify problem areas. The reason that I usually prefer stereo first is that I tend to use alot of real time effects that have to do with space, which means that I usually have a plugin monitoring the sound field running. Once I get the mix sounding the way I want, then I check the mix in mono to see if it translates accurately. The reason why I don't start in mono first is that it may be impossible for me to hear certain elements accurately in mono because I mix with a subwoofer. So mixing in mono kind of prevents me from hearing the different ranges of bass that need to blend together from the monitors and the subs. The other part about mono that gets forgotten about is that most of the time people are listening in mono, and don't know it especially with streaming devices, especially smart televisions and phones. Many people think if they see multiple speakers then the device is producing stereo audio, but infact there is just one audio channel hitting an amplifier instead of two actual channels. Considering that and knowing that majority of people listen via a streaming service these days more attention has to be paid to both the mono and stereo versions of mixes at different sample rates with respect to the supported bit rates by the intended delivery platform. So the biggest thing in my opinon is to make sure that you get to a point where you are happy with the mix in stereo, then make sure it still sounds the same in mono using the panning trick that you described or an actual mono speaker. Don't stop there, but bounce stereo and mono versions of the mix listen to the mixes on different sets of stereo speakers, mono speakers like your television, video game consoles, cars, and computers. Make sure that your mono mixes hold up well on these devices just like stereo devices. Last but not least the most important thing that you can do is to upload both mono and stereo versions of the mix to a secure cloud space such as googledrive, then play both versions on speakers in your car or other bluetooth speakers to see how the sonic qualities change while streaming to identify changes that need to be made so that the mix translates properly compared to the non streaming versions of the mix. This is key because most music is streamed in mono with processing that often can create horrible masks that kill the dynamics in your mix especially when dealing with bass heavy music. So I paint it in stereo, check it in mono, and verify it for the delivery platform. Great video as always bro!

  • @allatsea2746
    @allatsea2746 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 things: 1st: Auratones are not crappy speakers. I use the Avantone Mix Cubes. The main purpose for these speakers is not to imitate a cheap consumer speaker (why would anyone buy a 280€ speaker to imitate a 20€ speaker), but to avoid the crossover frequencies of a regular two way monitor. Sure, you don't have a lot above 8k and you don't have a lot below 120 Hz, but it's super-easy to get, for instance, the vocal-snare balance right. 2nd: Please give some credit to people like Bruce Swedien. I love Dre's work and Ali's mixes (King Kunta is one of my reference songs when mixing), but they didn't invent any of this.

  • @Rolanoid
    @Rolanoid 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a track blow up back in 2006 that was mixed on a pair of cheap PC speakers as my monitors were still in storage after an international move. I always give the crappy speaker test top priority. I also always mono check my tracks but mixing in mono is something I'm new to and plan to use now thanks.

  • @magick1969
    @magick1969 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All waveforms are mono. How we chose to blend them determines their dual mono, stereo blend, 2:1, 4:1, 5:1, 7:1 and their spatial positioning algorithms to fill in the gaps.

  • @clavis_voveo
    @clavis_voveo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for reminding that tip!

  • @SkyraXD
    @SkyraXD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I agree Mixing in Mono is the best thing to me. I suggest more peopl6to mix in mono it helps your ear as well it helped me out alot when I was first starting out and was struggling with mixing it really does help with your final mix.

  • @merlin.indahouse
    @merlin.indahouse 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn‘t mix in mono so far, but definitly trying it out now! Thank you!

  • @samuelmastandrea3352
    @samuelmastandrea3352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When beginning a mix in mono are you starting with all tracks panned center - then make EQ / dynamics /etc adjustments - then adjusting track panning when you switch to stereo? Great video Graham!

  • @ayokiff1073
    @ayokiff1073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can also use your Bluetooth speakers !! I use the wonderboom

  • @Herfinnur
    @Herfinnur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the ns10: I believe the sole reason they're so good for mixing, is that the time-response is faster and drier than on any other speaker. Subsequent speaker designers at Yamaha haven't understood this, which is why they've made ported designs on subsequent models
    Edit:
    Here's the article I once read on that. It involves whitepapers and all kinds of stuff. There's also some history in there, which makes it a fun read: www.google.com/url?q=www.hificritic.com/uploads/2/8/8/0/28808909/excerpt-201903-2-yamaha_ns10_phenomenon_phil_ward-feature.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiRzKH5843rAhWrlYsKHes3CeQ4ChAWMAR6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw2NH3Vvl266JBlz_ABBuSgn
    It also mentions that they are just as unforgiving when it comes to signal chain and positioning, which would account for why some say they sound like shit.
    Mind you: I'm not interested in a pair. I'm too much on the road to drag a pair +good amplifier with me, and I'm not a very good mixer anyway, so the moneez would be better spent paying for someone who is

  • @Hypno_BPM
    @Hypno_BPM 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    still remember seeing 40 on mtv talking about mixing thank me later out of laptop speakers cuz he said he believes that’s the way ppl will hear a new song now days for the first time. if u can make it sound good on cheap laptop speakers it’ll sound amazing on everything else.

  • @whereismymind667
    @whereismymind667 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes and Yes ! Yes I mix in mono, it's definitely one on the best thing to do to improve ! It allows me to mix faster with better results ! And yes I do have a small crappy speaker I use a lot during mixing too !

  • @sametzweiler2630
    @sametzweiler2630 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t mix on mono currently but I definitely will. I’ll spend a little bit of money on a cheap speaker and try it out, thanks man!

  • @AndrewBarrMusic
    @AndrewBarrMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do basic compressing and EQing before I start panning. It’s part my static mix. I always reference mono thought the mix. Mixing in mono has been huge for me and what made my songs sound better the quickest

  • @Professoar
    @Professoar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never mixed in mono before, but you can sure bet I'll be throwing on my Old 15 dollar zenhizers and flippin that shit to mono for some of my mixing time now. Thanks for the dope vid brother

  • @jefftravilla
    @jefftravilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I stumbled onto this a few years ago after getting frustrated with how my mixes would sound when I played them on a typical consumer Bluetooth speaker. So I just said screw it and started mixing primarily on one of those crappy speakers. Huge difference. Headphones and studio monitors don’t even come into play until the very end to get the polish and balance right on the highs and lows that are lost on the Bluetooth speaker. Sometimes I have to go back and forth a little few times with levels, especially to dial in the vocal just right, cause the vocal always pokes out more on the mid-rangy speakers.

  • @nonamemusic1932
    @nonamemusic1932 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started implementing the mono mixing technique in the last two songs i mixed and I believe im keeping it in my arsenal. POWERFUL mixes forsure just by this. While I dont own a crappy speaker, I still turn one moniter off and collapse every track to mono and start with balance, eq, compression and some reverb/delay. But I still got great sounding mixes before, but now the biggest difference is when the track is mastered it can be widened even more. Im assuming this has something to do with phase. Anyway thanks for the tip bro! Great video.

  • @jamesmctamaney5372
    @jamesmctamaney5372 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice! I have used this setup for years. Avantone mid-range monitors and NS-10's (or HS-7's) routed through a Radial Engineering MC-3 Monitor Control. The MC3 lets me dial in either or both speaker pair and lets me go from stereo to mono with a button press. Not terribly expensive and very convenient. I can even connect crappy headphones through the same controller if I want the ultimate in crappy speakers. This also brings up the importance of making sure your stereo tracks are in phase.

  • @moskva-kassiopeya
    @moskva-kassiopeya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's true. Since I started mixing in mono, I have a much better results. One of the best tips ever.

  • @joshgraham
    @joshgraham 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was learning to mix my music that was one of the first rules I came across and found it worked really well because when you did go 'stereo' things sounded even more amazing, as there was already clarity between instruments in mono. There's a lot of advice online that tells you to 'play about with panning' when you're getting your static mix together, which would defeat this method... so I'm guessing it's just a preference?

  • @roberttsuhako2093
    @roberttsuhako2093 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always start in stereo, I mix 90% on my Apple earbuds going back and forth on a pair of Yamaha HS-50’s and I use the iMac built in speakers to balance levels, the positioning of the speakers have a mono-like effect. I believe in mixing on earbuds because that’s what most people listen to music on

  • @rainerpandolfi1767
    @rainerpandolfi1767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    mix always the most time in mono to a single Novatone after I made my mixbalance inclusive panning.... also reverenz with my favorite songs not only in stereo also in mono