We confirm THE faith (His faith / His testimony) which is the New Covenant Law which is the Kingdom of God - Jesus and the resurrected saints that slept. Moses Law is the teacher to bring us to the understanding that we cannot do it ourselves. It brings us to the truth that God completed His Work in Christ's death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection which includes His New creation resurrected with Him - the church reserved in heaven - which God raised with Him as the Head and they the Body - which the gates of the grave (their tombs) did not prevail against. All who believe are His at His coming with them are the next in order to be saved. We are saved by this Work of Grace through faith in the Work of God and not by the works of the torah. Christ died, was buried, and rose the 3rd day according to the torah, prophets and psalms. 1 Cor 15:1-4. He literally fulfilled the torah and so do we when we Love God wholeheartedly and love our neighbor (everyone) as ourselves. We are saved by faith in His finished Work of Grace. Romans 10:9 Confess Jesus as Lord and Believe wholeheartedly that God raised Him out of the Dead (saints) according to the torah and we will be saved when they return. Evil men have omitted much of the gospel for the sake of filthy lucre. They want to put a price on the word - so they can peddle it like wares - The Word of God is PRICELESS! The truth sets us free from the merchandisers of God's Word.
AND THIS WE* ARE THE ISRAELITES/HEBREW/JUDEAN PEOPLE NOT ALL HUMANITY AS GRECO-ROMAN -JUDEO -CHRISTIANS TEACH. FOR THE LAW ITSELF SETS THE AUDIENCE-HEAR O ISRAEL* THERE IS NO HEAR O,HEATHEN/PEOPLES OR HEAR O, CHRISTIANITY.
@@Lemuel_Ben_Israel Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, [MAN] shall not live by bread alone, but [BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD] [MAN] Anthropos meaning: a human being, whether male or female It wasn't JUST ISRAEL that came out of EGYPT , there was a MIXT MULTITUDE. Any one that has an EAR TO HEAR oh ISRAEL.
@@yahuahisking8179 Your knowledge of the language is lacking brother. First, I only typed the tetragrammaton (YHWH) and TH-cam's translation makes it 'jehovah'. And yes, I am keenly aware of the lack of 'j' until about 500 years ago. As for the other names, well, let's just say that we will have to wait until They tell us HOW their actual names are vocalized. Until then, I will worry FAR MORE about the AUTHORITY which they carry. Thanks for 'attempting' to look out for me, but I am good and will continue as I feel led by YAHWEH and Yahshua/Yeshua/Yahoshua/Joshua. שבת שלום ויברכך יהוה וישמרך.
@@CovMixMultofIsrael Thanks for your reply. Just as a note, modern hebrew is NOT the language I use.... it's a dead empty shell.of Yahs true Word... "I am that I am'
@@yahuahisking8179 Just as a note: If you really want to get technical about it... 2000 Years ago there weren't any "English Letters"... The Hebrew letters written above by @CovMixMultofIsrael are closer to the original than what you and I are writing here... When Yeshua/Yehoshua returns, He will set us all straight on the Name to call Him... We will also correctly pronounce the Name YeHoVaH... (We'll probably call Him Abba, just like His Son does) If you can post a verifiable sound bite from the time period that proves how to pronounce the Names in the Bible correctly, you can admonish someone for their "pronunciation"... Until then, I'd just like to leave you with this little tid-bit... Even between the Tribes of Israel, Names were pronounced differently... Judges 12:6 - they told him, “Please say Shibboleth.” If he said, “Sibboleth,” because he could not pronounce it correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. So at that time 42,000 Ephraimites were killed. SMH...
@@yahuahisking8179 Yes, but without modern Hebrew, I can't talk to our brothers in Judah about Messiah Yahshua, and how Christianity created a mask which keeps them from recognizing Him. It is a requirement for me, but I try to memorize 'משמעות כפול' or both meanings. Best of luck in your FREE WILL offerings in doing Good Works! Much love to you and yours! Shalom Aleichem
The Law is output from Yahweh's Mind. To disparage obedience to it places one in agreement with the adversary. The more laws one breaks, the more legal ground Satan has to accuse.
The idea that Paul would change his treatment towards the law dependant upon who he was around would be extremely hypocritical, seeing as how it is cited that he checked Peter for committing a similar offense in Galatians 2:11-14.
When I read Act 21:20 I see that there was many Jews who did believe in Yeshuas and they did keep the Law. It's not about jewish tradition of men. It's about the Law of Moses. Keep the Law of Moses in the right way as Yeshua did . Paul did believe in The Law and the Prophets. He did teach the gospel from the Law and the Prophets. So what does the Prophet say? Isaiah 66:15--18 & 22--24
Paul did not change his view of the Law depending on who he was around. The thing Paul is addressing in Gal. 2:11-14 concerns the Orthodox Jewish custom of not eating with Gentiles. This custom is not taught in the Law at all. That is where your theology goes wrong. It was a custom that was added and perpetuated by the Pharisees. Paul called Peter out because the latter adhered to the custom of the Pharisees. That's what made him a hypocrite.
The argument you make is flawed at its root. Specifically, scripture is clear that Acts 21 addresses an accusation that Paul was teaching Jews not to obey the law. This is, as you point out, completely false. Paul never taught Jews to disobey the law. Paul taught Gentiles that the law did not apply. This brings us to the root of the problem. Your argument asserts that gentiles who believe become Jews. And that is not taught to be true in scripture. As a side note, I agree that nowhere does the bible claim that the law is done away with. Rather, a Christian has more to obey than called for in the law of Moses. The issue is not 'what we do' but 'why we do it.'
When I saw the Sabbath still applied I tried to study it out with my Church of Christ elders. One of them told me that any church that teaches the 10 commandment still apply are heretics. I was suddenly scared for him and the state of his soul. Shabbat shalom.
@@truthnottradition7 If you are still in contact with him maybe you could share these passages with him. Rev 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those GUARDING THE COMMANDMENTS OF ALAHYM and possessing the witness of יהושע Messiah. Rev 14:12 Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those GUARDING THE COMMANDMENTS OF ALAHYM and the belief of יהושע. Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those doing HIS COMMANDMENTS, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city.
Shabat shalom to all observers. Thank you David n 119 Ministries. I myself was Confused until Heavenly Father straightened me out😊. One thing I do know, Satan is having alot of fun confusing clueless people with Saul's writings n sad to say have led many astray 🥺. Like Adam n Chavah. I have learned my lesson, never, never second guess Heavenly Father's n Yeshua's WORDS, n TORAH. They are TRUE n ENDURES FOREVER/EVERLASTING.
It is no coincidence the 4 laws abstain from pollutions of idols, things strangled, blood, and sexual immorality. Lev 19:4, Lev 19:26, Lev 20:10-21, These laws are predominantly from Lev Ha'Torah Leviticus 19 - 20. YAH .... Always startes with the heart. Here new believers are told to start with Lev Ha'Torah, The Heart of Torah first cleaning out the inside of the cup that the outside will become clean also... Blessings....
YAH CANNOT DIE NOR EVER BE FOUND AS A MAN NOR BE A BABE IN A WOMB. YOU ARE DELUSIONAL THE ONE DYING IS YAHAWASH HA MESSIAH -A MAN CALLED [SON OF MAN] AND CONFIRMED BY YAH AS HIS BELOVED SON.
Rom. 8:7 explains why: the carnal mind is hostile against God's laws and His government. That's where all of the righteous-sounding arguments against the Law comes from. A lot of ppl want to claim Christianity as long as they can continue living like atheists. A lot of ppl want to be considered good without being required to DO good.
As the Word tells us.... "They will call good evil and evil good...." The Torah of Yahuah still stands for every TRUE beliver today.... Those not keeping the Fathers Torah, with a heart and LOVE for Him, are not true followers of Yahusha, and do not "Walk as He walked" Solburg is a follower of satan, and will end up with his "father" the father of LIES..... (unless he repents)
@@lavieenrose5954 Time will tell...... Remember ye the Torah of Mosheh my servant, which I commanded unto him in Chorev for all Yashar'el, with the commandments and judgments. MAL`AKIY (MALACHI) 4:4 את CEPHER
No matter what you may think about Paul. This statement is absolute FACT: The reason why 95% of all Christians abrogate the Torah is because of the writings of Paul. The reason why 95% of the Jews reject Yeshua as Messiah is because of the writings of Paul. I think Paul is THEE test of Duet 13. Yah told us He would send false Prophets to test us....a doozy of a test it is, as well. Yeshua said it all in Matt 7:21-27. Who do you think He was talking to? It wasn't the Buddhists who call Him, Lord, Lord....it was the lukewarm christians thinking that blurting out a 'magic' sentence once in their lives brings eternal salvation. I guess we will see.
The reason why I follow what the Bible states is because I wasn't brought up in the Apostate "church"... I took what was written in 2 Peter 3:15 through 17 and used it to understand what Paul was writing about... Peter called Paul their BROTHER... Yeshua told us that Paul was HIS chosen vessel... From my point of view 95% of "Christians" believe nonsense because it was taught to them by the Constantinian 'church"... The "church" that evolved from the abominated Roman Catholic Church who syncretized every abhorrent Pagan/Heathen rite into the worship of a Holy GOD... The "Protestant" Church protests little other than the Word of GOD... Of which it hold the "traditions of men" to a higher regard... People need to stop using what Paul said as a scapegoat for their laziness and ignorance of the Word of GOD...
THE THINGS OUR BROTHER PAUL WRITES ARE HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD BY UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE WHO WREST HIS WRITINGS AS THEY WREST ALL THE OTHER SCRIPTURE-TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
@@Lemuel_Ben_Israel No matter what you may think about Paul. This statement is absolute FACT: The reason why 95% of all Christians abrogate the Torah is because of the writings of Paul. The reason why 95% of the Jews reject Yeshua as Messiah is because of the writings of Paul.
YAH AND THE ISRAELITE/HEBREW /JUDEAN PEOPLE OF THE LATTERDAYS ARE MOST HATED BY GRECO-ROMAN-JUDEO- CHRISTIANITY [FULL BLOWN ENMITY] THESE TWO CAMPS ARE FOREVER OPPOSED { HOUSE YAH VS. HOUSE BELIAL} THERE IS NO [god-deity ] OF CHRISTAINITY DECLARED IN THE BIBLE RECORD SUCH A CREATURE IS THE INVENTION OF EUROPEAN THEOLOGIANS. NEITHER HAS YAH REJECTED ISRAELITES FOR NON-ISRAELITE PEOPLES. PSALM 78:5- FOR YAH ESTABLISHED A TESTIMONY IN JACOB* [ALL 12 TRIBES] AND APPOINTED A LAW IN ISRAEL* {ONLY IN AND OF AND FOR OUR NATION} TO HEAR NON-ISRAELITE {HEATHEN-DOGS} DISCUSSING A LAW WHICH NEVER PERTAINED TO THEM IS SHEER MADNESS- FOR NEITHER OUR YAH NOR HIS NATION SHALL EVER GIVE {HOLY THINGS} TO DOGS.
Time stamp 10:40... IF Paul went into The Temple of GOD, And made a False Pretense before GOD... Who then would want to follow a man who "lied" to GOD to prove a point to men.... That did not happen under false Pretenses...
'1 Corinthians 9:20 - And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law'
I personally think that when paul uses the term under the law he is refering to being under the penalty of the law. We are no longer under the penalty of the law since christ paid the penalty.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death [Exodus 31:14-15; Exodus 35:1-2; Numbers 15:32-36; 2 Corinthians 3:7], but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord [Matthew 11:28-30; Hebrews 4]. (NASB)
What I believe after wrestling with The Ruach for awhile, there are Wedding Guests, (maybe us Torah learning, zealous,) Then There are 70 nations, there are ppl who are a Torah to themselves, aka., motal, right, decent - despite the enlightened semetary doctrines. Yeshua/Jesus answered my prayers before I was shown, what for me was missing. So, I think for us, we ought to be above the Xtain "thang" and Ask Hashem to put us out where we can make the Jews jealous. Bc, frankly who else can? Only non-Jews doing what Native Jews do, or ought to. Adonai Bless you and keep you all, it's a comfort to know you're out there, like me, loving Israel for real, and learning daily, TORAH! Amen Shalom
I disagree about the meaning of "under law". I believe it is referring to an authority relationship in which the law is the master of the one under it. Paul wasn't under the law of the Pharisees, the Romans, nor even of God. He was obedient to God's Law as a son, not as a slave which is bound under it.
UNDER THE LAW MEANS UNDER THE IMMEDIATE DEATH SENTENCE WHICH WAS REQUIRED FOR SINS SUCH AS ADULTERY AND EVEN BEASTIALITY. BUT WE ARE ABLE TO BE JUSTIFIED FROM ALL THESE THINGS WE COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED FROM WHILE UNDER THE MINISTRY OF MOSES-AS THE MINISTRY OF THE HEBREW SON NOW SUPERCEEDS...BUT ONLY FOR ISRAELITES. WE [ISRAELITES] NOW HAVE FORGIVENESS FOR SINS COMMITTED [AS DANIEL SAYS TO US* IN CHAP. 9:11-ALL ISRAEL HAS TRANSGRESSED- SINNED] {AN INDICTMENT AGAINST ISRAELITES NOT ALL HUMANITY- AS LIARS TEACH} ALL PROPHETS FROM MOSES CLEARLY TEACH WE HAVE SINNED AND CLEARLY SHOW IN OUR RECORDS THAT THE [WE*] ARE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL- NONE ELSE. MESSIAH IN ALL INTERACTIONS WITH ISRAELITES IN EVERY GOSPEL ACCOUNT SPEAKS 2 THINGS-YE MUST TURN FROM YOUR SIN AND HAVE FAITH IN MY POWER TO BRING SALVATION TO ISRAEL. MESSIAH IN ALL INTERACTION WITH NON-ISRAELITES NEVER SPEAKS CONCERNING SIN NOR SALVATION UNTO THEM THEY CANNOT COME TO HIM HAVING NEVER RECEIVED THE LAW FOR THE LAW [GIVEN TO ALL ISRAEL] MUST BRING US TO THE TRUE HEBREW SON.
I’ve struggled with this “law” thing for many years and after much prayer, supplication and good Berean virtues I am come to the conclusion that (1) the “law of Moses” is not nor was not Moses’ law but rather Yahuahs law GIVEN to Moses to impart to the Israelites and not for Yahs good but for the good of His people. (2) What possible good vs bad would it be for me a gentile, to observe and obey these laws since I identify as a follower of Yahushua who Himself observed and obeyed them? (3) The whole teaching in N.T. scripture is that one is NOT justified by the law but rather IS sanctified by them. Sanctification is a process whereas justification is immediate. (4) I don’t have to obey the laws of the land to be considered an American but MUST however suffer the consequences if and when I violate them. (5) Interestingly enough, I hear people say they do not have to follow the 613 laws of “Moses” but fail to acknowledge the 1100+ commands as clearly stated in the N.T. (6) in conclusion, apart from the in dwelling Spirit of Yah NO, and I repeat NO ONE , can follow “Moses”, Yah, nor Yahushua . Keep fighting the GOOD fight my brothers and just know and understand that the spiritual forces of wickedness in “high” places are at work. Shalom. Ps, what does it mean to obey “God”? Is it to “do as tho wilt”. Hum seems that’s what the “great” satanist Alistair Crowley said. Hum!!! And o I forgot to mention, I’ll bet you McArthur is circumcised lol. Don’t know nor want to know but would bet he is. SORRY for the edits. I’m done.
What I do not understand is WHY Christians are so intimidated by Jews and Judaism? Christians do not seem to be so intimidated by say - atheist - but Judaism seems to be such a problem. Why is that?? Not teaching AGAINST the law is no different than REFUSING to TEACH and KEEP the Commandments of God.
I am not a "Christian"... But perhaps, I can give some insight? Yeshua (who was a Jew and the LION of Judah) taught the Laws of His Father but also taught AGAINST many of the "TRADITIONS" in Judaism... Hand washing... (netilat yadayim) Offerings as corban when parents were starving... Yeshua even admonished those keeping the "traditions of the elders": Mark 7:5 through 8 - 5So the Pharisees and scribes questioned Jesus: “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders? Instead, they eat with defiled hands.” 6 Jesus answered them, “Isaiah prophesied correctly about you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 7They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men. 8You have disregarded the Commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.” The Law of GOD (Commandments) and the Halakah of Judaism are two ENTIRELY different things... Thus... I am a follower of Yeshua... I follow GOD's Laws not the "traditions of men"... I am not "intimidated" by Jews... (I embrace them as my Brothers and Sisters as per Romans 11) Does this clear anything up for you?
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Ahhh,, no. There are two primary form s of Judaism: The Fundamentalist who live by the 'fundaments' (Laws of G-d) and the Traditionalist who live by the 'Traditions' of the rabbis. Jesus (rightfully) and being from the NORTH not Judea of the south, said that traditions were good - but NOT G-d's laws and should not be followed IF they contradicted with G-d's laws. Many, many of us Jews are 'Fundamentalist' and live by G-d's laws and not rabbis traditions. We follow the biblical laws that Christians falsely ignore and Jesus taught us to follow. Christians do not because they believe that the Laws of G-d have been done away with even though Jesus stated otherwise. I suppose that in this you are saying that Christians have MORE IN COMMON with atheist who also fail to follow G-d's laws and therefore find Jews to be a threat. That is a great sadness as it is contrary to both G-d's laws and what your Jesus taught you.
I find it fascinating that one can argue that Paul spent all that time and effort to address the idea of table-fellowship. Given the assertions of Acts 15, and the 613 laws in Torah, that the only things Paul ever addresses is table fellowship?
One question for all of those that believe the law isn't in effect: Would TMH dwell in the realms of being unfair if he took away the LAW after all of those thousands of years that people were required to ffollowing? YA is a fair and righteous God, raining on both the just and just.
RAINING ON BOTH THE JUST AND THE UNJUST OF ISRAEL DAVID IS ONLY SPEAKING TO ISRAEL AND SO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT NON-ISRAELITE FOLK ARE NOT THE BIBLE AUDIENCE-GO SERVE ODIN EUROMAN!!.
I hear Rachel crying...when do we stop the madness? ...and in those days shall (I AM) make a New Covenant with Mankind(Israel and Foreigners). (I AM) will write knowledge of (I AM) on their hearts. None are without excuse. Make straight the path of The Lord. Do not sleep or be caught without oil for your lamp...Today is the day The Lord made, rejoice in it, for it is the day of Salvation, "your" Day of Salvation. You have a choice, life or death. (I AM) made the sacrifice for mankind. Your choice. Christ satisfied the Law of (I AM). You cannot receive grace without mercy. A person forgiven little loves little, a person forgiven much loves much ...know that we have all fallen short of the Law, but throught the Mercy of (I Am) we can live in Grace. We are loved and forgiven. We have a new heart (covenant) which guides our lives. When we walk with the Father the wake created is the law.
Where are you commanded to sacrifice? Who is commanded to offer your sacrifice? If you do it any other way than what was commanded, you would actually be breaking the law.
Daniel prophesied that Messiah would cause the daily sacrifice to cease and the temple to be made desolate (destroyed). See Daniel 9:27 kjv I believe the ceremonial laws were temporary, they made a way for God to dwell in our presence without consuming us until Messiah would offer His own blood which continually cleanses us through His work in the heavenly temple, where He intercedes on our behalf forever as High Priest. The laws pertaining to animal sacrifices, clean and unclean due to menstruation, leprosy, etc. These were necessary in ancient times so that God could dwell in the Temple and not consume the people. Now Yeshua is our High Priest in heaven continually interceding on our behalf so we may go boldly before the Throne of grace. All of the other Laws, moral Laws, are eternal and we must learn to walk in them if we expect to enter the kingdom. Yeshua said, If you will enter into life, keep the commandments, then He goes on to quote a hanful of them so that the young man would understand He was referring to the moral Law, which is eternal. Matthew 19:17 kjv Notice that Yeshua did not quote any ceremonial laws in this passage and this is because His sacrifice would make them void. Remember the woman bleeding for 12 years? She was unable to enter the Temple bcuz she was unclean due to menstrual blood, but she in faith reached out and touched Yeshua's tzitzis on his garment and she was healed. Had she touched any other rabbi in her condition she would have been rebuked and this is why the passage says she was scared and trembling when Yeshua said, Who touched me? A menstruating woman in those days was called a niddah and it meant you were unclean and your husband could not touch you until you stopped bleeding and went to a mikveh to immerse yourself. It was spiritual uncleanness because menstruating was a symbol of sin. Remember, the woman is a symbol of God's people and God's people fell from grace into sin. The niddah had to be separated from her husband for 7 days until her period ceased, then she was brought back into her husband's bedroom. This is a symbol of us being separated from God, our husband, due to uncleanness of sin. The world has been walking in sin for 6,000 yrs but in the millennium we are reunited with our husband, Yeshua. The 6,000 yrs plus 1,000 year millennium equals 7,000 yrs which is 7 days to God. The woman was a symbol of Israel and this is why she bled for 12 yrs, 12 is associated with Israel, the 12 tribes. Just like the dead girl Yeshua resurrected, she was 12 yrs old, she symbolized Israel.
_"But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets..."_ Christians were viewed as a "sect" of Judaism. Meaning, one whose actions and beliefs accord to those of the traditional Hebrew faith -- at least predominantly. Clearly, the post-resurrection Christians of the time were Torah observant. Including the offering of Temple sacrifices.
YOU ARE IN GRAVE ERROR THERE IS NOTHING CALLED JUDAISM IN OUR BOOK. THOSE BLACK HEBREW MEN ARE CALLED XIPHIOSTOS IN THE [GREEK] NO ENGLISH SPOKEN ON THE PLANET TILL THE 4TH CENTURY. WHAT YOU NOW TERM {CHRISTIANS/ KRISTIANS IN ENGLISH} WERE ACTUALLY MELANATED-BLACK IN COLOR MEN-{NYGER-NIG****} MEN WHO WERE ISRAELITES/HEBREWS AND JUDEAN PEOPLE RAN OUT OF JERUSALEM BY OTHER MELANATED MEN LIKE THEMSELVES AFTER THE PERSECUTION AND DEATH OF MELANATED MAN {STEPHEN} THERE ARE NO {WHITE} EUROPEANS MEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE CONTROVERSIES RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF ACTS WHEN IT COMES TO HEBREW FAITH MATTERS-ALL THE EURO RULERS DO IS LOCK THEM UP OR EXECUTE THEM. AND THAT IS THE ONLY ROLE OF THE EURO IN THE HEBREW SALVATION STORY. ALL ILLEGAL EUROPEANS INSERTED THEMSELVES INTO THE BIBLE NARRITIVE DURING THE TIME OF WICKED {EURO BEAST MAN} CONSTANTINE PRETENDING THAT THEY WERE NOW RECEPIENTS OF A HEBREW SALVATION. AND NOW WE LAST-DAY REMNANT OFISRAEL RISING BACK UP TO LIFE REMIND YE ILLEGAL EURO ENCROUCHERS-OFF YE GO.. OUTSIDERS/HEATHENS YE HAVE NEITHER LOT NOR PART IN THE BUILDING OF A SPIRITUAL HOUSE TO YAH
Acts 21:25 is an addition to the text. We know this from the facts #1 it's not in older manuscripts #2 it's not ever recognized as being a verse from any other outside writings such as the church fathers, etc. #3 the verse itself literally says "that they do no such things other than" or "they do no such things save ONLY" (something along those lines) which isn't in the original statement from the Jerusalem council. From these facts it's easy to see Acts 21:25 is an obvious addition.
Paul was very clear in teaching that Christians are no longer married to the law but to Jesus Christ. We are no longer obligated to keep the ceremonial law or the moral law for justification because we are justified by grace through faith. The law condemns. Christ saves.
Some people argue that although Paul did take the vow and went to the temple to proof that what was said about him wasnt true he didnt went threw the whole proses and was prevented and that proofs that he was actually gilty . Would like to hear your opinion
Paul didn't preach that the law is abolished, but that Christ is the fulfillment of it in each of us. What the law of Moses could never do Acts 13:39, God did through the fulfilled mission of Christ. So many want to remain under the law and not come to the truth of grace. Grace is what God did in raising Jesus out of His generation which was slaughtered. Matthew 2:16-18 / Matthew 27:52-53. The resurrection of these firstfruits with Jesus begins the New Creation. They are the church of the Firstborn written in heaven Heb 12:23 and reserved for us 1 Peter 1:4 - the Coming Kingdom of God. - They are coming to inherit their land and all who believe the truth will be co heirs Rom 8:17 / Eph 3:6 with them. Jer 31:17
LISTEN UP EUROMAN THE ONLY WE* INHERITING IS THIS [ONE-1] WE* HEB.8:10 FOR THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL LEAVING OUT [FOREVER] HOUSE HEATHENS/ HOUSE JUDEO- CHRISTIANITY THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW IS NOT MESSIAH-HE IS THE END OF THE LAW FOR ISRAEL'S RIGHTEOUSNESS. {THE GREATEST POINT- THE SAVING END GOAL WE MUST ATTAIN} THE FULFILLMENT IS THIS BEHOLD I WILL MAKE ALL THINGS NEW INCLUDING GIVE TO THE TRUE {ISRAELITES-THOSE DISPISED IN ALL THE EARTH} A NEW COVENANT. AND NO IT'S NOT THE ISRAELI/JEWISH [IMPOSTER] WHOM EVERYBODY ON THE PLANET LOVES-BUT {NIG**** HISPANICS AND INDEGENOUS} MUCH HATED.
@@Bri-lo3un First, we must understand that Paul's writings are hard to understand, especially when we have not been taught that Paul was a Hebrew man who thought with the Hebrew 'mindset' (which is very different than our "western thinking English mindset). Even though he thought in the Hebrew mindset, in his God-given Hebrew language, with its Hebrew CONTEXT that was ALWAYS ACCORDING TO & Corresponding with the Law of Moses, Paul could also speak and write several other languages. He was the son of a Pharisee (Acts 23:6) & was an extremely intelligent person, highly educated "having been instructed according to the exactness of the Torah of our fathers, at the feet of the renowned Torah teacher, Gamli'el" (Acts 22:2-3). This all started at a very young age when Paul was required by Gamli'el to memorize the Torah (the Law of Moses). Paul continued to be the top student in his class while being trained for years to become a Pharisee Rabbi (being trained to think, speak, & argue like an Expert 'lawyer' in God's Law) which contributed to Paul's unique writing & teaching style that confused many people, especially new believers. It is also important to understand that Paul stayed a Pharisee his WHOLE life (even AFTER becoming a true believer) in Yeshua (Jesus). Luke writes in (Acts 24:14-16) that Paul confesses, "I worship the God of my fathers, believing all that has been written in the Torah (Law of Moses) and written in the Prophets". Luke also writes that Paul says that he "stands, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other than what the Prophets and Moses said ..."(Acts 26:22). And for a third witness of what Paul always taught, Luke wrote in (Acts 28:23) "Paul was explaining, earnestly witnessing about the reign of God, and persuading them concerning Yeshua (Jesus) from both the Torah of Moses and the Prophets, from morning until evening." However, we also see the other side to Paul's writings & teachings being misunderstood, which is documented in Apostle Peter's letter to the assemblies that warns Paul's letters to the elders of the newly formed assemblies were being twisted even back then (2 Peter 3:15-17). With all that being said, it is also Vitally Important to understand that in Paul's letters, Paul is NOT always writing about the Law of Moses when he writes the word 'law'. Paul being a Pharisee Rabbi (a Torah 'lawyer'), he likes to use the word 'law' so he creates 'names' for laws, such as "the law of sin" & "the law of sin and of death", which again are NOT given names in the Torah (God's Law/ the Law of Moses), but Paul uses made up names for 'laws' based on Torah principles to teach the new believers about the penalty of sinning against Father YAH's Law/the Law of Moses, which POINTS OUT sin. (The Torah reveals or EXPOSES sins because it shows what is sin & what is not sin in Father YAH's eyes, according to HIS standards R0 7:7). Paul is teaching them that this 'law' that he calls 'the law of sin' is when one sins against the Law of Moses. He also explains that 'the law of sin' comes with a "wage" which carries the penalty due to us for our sin (R0 6:23), which is eternal separation from YAH (he calls this 'the law of sin & of death' -- r0 8:2). Paul teaches the new believers that since they have trusting belief in Yeshua (Jesus) for their salvation, they are to reckon themselves dead to sin because they 'have been set free from the 'law of sin' & from 'the law of sin & of death' to become servants of righteousness' (R0 6:18-19 & roe mun 8:4) so that they CAN DO the Law of God/The Law of Moses without fear of eternal death if/when they make a mistake. Paul says since they have already been given their free gift of salvation, now they are to present their members (their body parts) as servants of righteousness resulting in set-apartness (holiness) for God's use, because they are not to continue to live in sin since they have "died to sin" with Yeshua (Jesus) (Romans 6:1-2). Paul confesses to the other believers in (Romans 7:7; 14; & 22-25) that he still struggles with sin in his own body, which causes him to do the things that he doesn't want to do, but with his mind he serves the Torah (the Law of Moses) that does not create the sin, but gives the 'Knowledge of sin' and he realizes that it is the sin that kills ('the law of sin and of death'). Thankfully Father YAH & Yeshua (Jesus) Redeemed us & set us free from the power of 'the law of sin' and from 'the law of sin and of death' giving us life by YaH's grace through Yeshua's perfect, forever, sinless offering of himself & rebirth by YAH's Spirit of Holiness & Truth. Paul NEVER taught against YAH's Torah (the Law of God/the Law of Moses), and he NEVER taught that the Torah was done away with, nor did he teach that the Torah ended, nor was abolished, nor was replaced by anyone. He taught "So that the Torah is truly set-apart (Holy), and the Command Holy, and Righteous and Good & is Spiritual (Romans 6:18, & Romans 7:12 & 14) which are the exact SAME things that Yeshua (Jesus) taught in (John 8:31-32 & 34-36). Hope these things help you, Prayers for His Understanding, Blessings & Shalom!
@@Bri-lo3un 119 Ministries has a video that explains this... It's called "Which Law Paul"... Here is a summary of that video: 1. The Law of GOD (Romans 3:31, 7:22-25 and 8:7) 2. The Law of Sin (Romans 7:23-25) 3. The Law of Sin and Death (Romans 8:2) 4. The Law of Spirit and Life (Romans 8:2) 5. The Law of Faith (Romans 3:27) 6. The Law of Righteousness (Romans 9:31) 7. The Law of Christ (Corinthians 9:21)
Time stamp 2:18... Maybe he missed The Prophecy of The Messiah... "...Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Yehoshua H3091/G2424 (Jesus)...." Or maybe he did not believe what The Messiah had to say... "...Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..." Or what Paul had to say... "...Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law..." Makes you wonder just Who is that man following... He has denied The words of The Messiah, The Words of a Prophet, and The Words of Paul (all in The New Testament)
If you treat Paul's letters as Gospels without knowing what the Gospels teach, then you are free to twist Paul's words. I talked with a woman who said, " New testament Scripture doesn't teach keeping the commandments of God" Imagine that !
Did you ever notice that Roman Catholicism uses Paul to replace Judas the traitor but they reject Matthias, whom God chose to replace Judas, according to Acts. The name Matthias means Gift of God and he is a shadow type of Christ Yeshua, as Judas is a shadow type of satan
We have to understand that if Paul had been perfectly CLEAR, then there would be no disputes about whether or not he spoke against the Torah. The people who decided to put Paul in the New Testament, and who deemed Paul’s writings as authoritative, well, they simply assumed that Paul spoke against the Torah. They placed Paul in the New Testament because they thought that he spoke against the Torah. The Torah was NOT written on the hearts of the church fathers. It was their understanding that Paul was correct in teaching against the Torah. Paul’s writings have done nothing but cause the church to abandon Yeshua and Moses. His writings are a TEST. God isn’t the author of confusion.
2 Peter 3:15-17 "And consider the long-suffering of YAHWEH to be our redemption, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which some things are hard to understand, *which those that are ignorant and unstable* pervert their meaning, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore beloved, since you know these things beforehand, guard yourself, lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness." When you consider the teachings in Christian churches today, Paul's writings are no different than other gospel writers whose words are often contorted. Many use Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23 (the last part of v. 19 was added centuries later), and Acts 10 to suggest the dietary laws have been abolished, and are convinced that's true because it's what they've always been taught, although reading these passages in context make it obvious that's not what was being conveyed. Many people contort Y'shua's words to claim he abolished the Law despite his words in Matthew 5:17-19 that clearly contradict this idea. In Christian (Sunday-observing) churches I attended, people sometimes took scripture (including Paul's writings) out of context and twisted it to fit an agenda, although the true meaning was clear (at least to me) when read in context. It was, of course, taboo to mention any scripture that contradicted their flawed interpretation. Some scriptures have even been mistranslated or otherwise modified by translators who tried to make it fit a preexistent doctrine. Many scriptures, including Paul's writings, that were once confusing to me became crystal clear after I began studying scripture using a biblical lexicon and interlinear translation, and studied the history of "the Church," which made it evident where many popular church doctrines originated. It's important to note who, per the apostle Peter, perverts the meaning of Paul's words.
Pauls letters are 100% consistent w/Torah and Yeshua fulfilling it. The problem that "the church" of today has is, not understanding the difference between oral torah and written torah. The EXACT THING both Yeshua and Paul were talking about! Once a believers eyes are opened to Torah being BASIC principals and NOT a covenant specific thing. The (so called) "new testament" is so much easier to understand. And doubly so for Paul who was likely the most qualified of all the pharisees to be converted to the truth of Yeshua being the messiah Shabbat shalom.
@@truthnottradition7 You have no proof that Paul simply taught against oral Torah. Paul’s disciples claimed that he taught against Torah, period. The church is a reflection of Paul’s teachings and his missionary journeys. He traveled around teaching against the Law. If Paul was teaching these gentiles not to follow ORAL Torah, that makes zero sense. Wouldn’t it make more sense for Paul to write letters teaching them how to follow written Torah? Where are his instructions on how to follow written Torah. Where does he teach gentiles that they need to be circumcised when they convert? Where does he teach gentiles that they are NOT allowed to eat food sacrificed to idols? Gentiles never followed ANY Torah, much less having any knowledge about ORAL Torah. That is simply an excuse that people have made for Paul because they don’t want to throw him out of the Bible. It’s too scary to do that. The church was built on Paul, not Yeshua. The more you study Yeshua, you will discover that he taught oral Torah. And not only did he teach oral Torah, but he also taught man-made traditions from the Pharisees. He was a Pharisee. The simple fact that he was called “Rabbi” means that he was a Pharisee. No other sect did that. The term rabbi comes from the sect of the Pharisees. Yeshua taught his disciples to follow the teachings of the Pharisees of his day. Lusting after a woman (even looking at her little finger in lust) points to adultery of the heart…comes from the Pharisees. The idea of “returning to the garden” and that Moses gave divorce only because of the hardness of the heart, comes from Pharisees. The idea of summing up the Torah in two things…loving God and loving others…comes from the Pharisees. The idea of getting a fallen goat out of a well on Shabbat comes from the Pharisees…This comment of Yeshua’s was directed to their understanding that the Dead Sea scroll community would NEVER ever remove a fallen animal in a well on Shabbat. These were known ideas to the people of his time. The idea of being “born again” comes from the Pharisees, it’s not even in oral torah, it’s simply man’s tradition. The Jews still teach this concept today. The idea of “casting out demons” is pharisaic, from tradition, and casting out demons IS NOT IN TORAH. Yeshua had no issues with oral law or traditions. He either supported their interpretations or he disagreed and had his own interpretations of Torah. The Jews have been arguing about HOW to keep Torah since they left Mt. Sinai. You can’t separate Yeshua from his people nor his customs. He was a Jew, and it’s just what Jews do. They passionately argue about Torah because they love Hashem and they love his Torah, so the extra effort to study is worth it to get it correct. They argue about HOW to keep it, but Paul’s followers argued about about NOT keeping it. God gave His laws, and it’s up to the people who he appointed to interpret it. For instance, if God gave the death penalty for breaking Shabbat, that’s pretty severe, so we must be explicit about what is breaking Shabbat. If God said to slaughter meat in the manner that He showed us, well, how do we know the manner to slaughter it because it’s not written in Torah? Although we no longer have a high court, we still do the best we can until it is restored. Was Yeshua from Hashem? Yes, I do believe he was. Was Yeshua an anointed one? Yes, I do believe he was. Was Paul from God? Yes, I do believe Paul was sent to be the test. Paul fulfilled Hashem’s promise to TEST his people. God is refining his people through the fire of the church and through Islam. Islam began because they knew Paul was false…then Muhammad came along and had more visions in the wilderness JUST LIKE PAUL, JUST LIKE JOSEPH SMITH. Yeshua said do NOT believe anyone who came from the wilderness representing him, because he wasn’t going to return until it was the end.
@@karenp.2316. It was a contrary message to what Yeshua and his apostles taught, and that’s why Paul had to defend himself and his message about what happened in the wilderness. The problem is that even in the time of the early “church,” Paul wanted to win people for his gospel. He made a distinction between his gospel and the gospel of those from James. James and Yeshua had the same gospel. Yeshua and the prophets before him had the same gospel. But Paul had a different gospel. Paul wrote multiple times, I’m not lying! He rebuked people for following the “so-called pillars…the apostles (James, Peter, John.) He defended his apostleship, because he wasn’t one of the 12, he’d never met Yeshua, and Paul knew his gospel was different from what they knew to be true. Paul wrote that he wasn’t given a letter of authority from the apostles to teach his teachings, but he didn’t care. Speaking of James, Peter, and John…Paul said, “What they are means NOTHING to me.” He wrote horrible things about Peter to the gentiles, making Peter look bad. Gentiles didn’t know why Jews couldn’t eat with gentiles, so Paul made Peter look bad. Paul gave permission to eat food that had been sacrificed to idols! This was the grave sin of Balaam and Balak spoken about in Revelation 2:14 (from numbers 25:1). NOBODY can eat food sacrificed to idols! There should’ve not even been pagan temples in the Holy Land! Yet, Paul claimed it was allowed to eat this as long as your conscience is clear…whatever does that mean??? No graven images! Of course they’re not real! They are forbidden! This is an example of the serpent in the garden…God commanded Adam what NOT to eat, but Satan said, now did God reeeeeaally say that? Paul is the stumbling block, that’s why his letters are so confusing. Hashem isn’t the author of concussion. The tribe of Benjamin was prophesied to be a ravenous wolf. Paul bragged about being from the tribe of Benjamin. What did Jesus say? Beware of those who look like sheep but are inwardly ravenous wolves! This I have against you, those who claim to be Jews but ARE NOT (Rev 2:9 & 3:9)! Search the early writings about Paul. There was great reason why he was rejected. They said he wasn’t even circumcised! Paul was a Roman citizen. The Herodians weren’t really Jews and were hostile toward the Jews. Josephus wrote that “Saulus” was a “kinsman of Agrippa”…this would be Herod Agrippa. Why does Paul call Herodion “my kinsman”? And to the ones in Ephesus (Rev 2:1-3) who endured and persevered, they were admonished and praised because they could not tolerate evil men. They were praised for TESTING those evil men who called themselves apostles, but were not. Paul was a self-appointed apostle. He wrote that all those in Asia rejected him… We’ve been presented “tares and wheat.” The wheat is the true bread of God, and the tares are the falsehoods. Those who refuse to obey the word of God, the seed has fallen on stony ground. God hardened pharoah’s heart because he refused to obey His word given by Moses. Paul’s writings are full of mixed seed. We don’t mix the holy with the profane. Whether Paul intentionally wrote confusingly, or his letters were forged, we may never know, but he has don’t nothing but led people in the path of lawlessness ever since the church began. He wrote so firmly that his disciples follow him, rather than those from James and Peter. Obedience leads to salvation. Works of the flesh is the fruit of a circumcised heart. Paul sought to kill, steal, and destroy the works of Yeshua. Paul isn’t your savior. So why even argue about him? He isn’t anyone’s messiah.
Paul's words were absolutely clear, in Rom. 2:13, Rom. 3:31, 1 Cor. 7:19, and Acts 24:14. Like Peter said in his epistles, wicked and ignorant ppl distort Paul's words to mean something else entirely. Everything Paul taught was just as clear as everything Christ preached.
i don't care about what Paul Said My goal is to obey God not Paul and God Said he didnt't abolished the law that is all we need, we follow God not Paul
From the very beginning you conflate Jewish believers in Jesus and Gentile believers in Jesus by just saying “believers”. The scriptures make a clear distinction. Additionally, to use Andy Stanley and what he teaches about the old testament is to choose an outlier from the mainstream to build your argument. Much of the church has rejected the progressive teachings of Stanley.
The assertion that the law of God and the law of Moses are the same thing lacks foundation and is in fact disproved by Yeshua when He claims God allowed Moses to divorce, and when He identifies murder and adultery to be possible without committing the actions. The law of God is far stricter than the law of Moses. This is scripturally supported. And is present prophetically in the old testament in presenting the need for a new covenant.
@@charlesrosenbury231 no, the Law of Moses teaches us not to hate our brother in our heart, this is spiritual murder. See Lev 19:17 kjv Moses allowed the uncircumcised of heart to get a divorce...Yeshua said Moses gave them divorce bcuz of the hardness of their hearts. The righteous Israelites did not get divorced. It is the same today. God is going to judge and condemn all whose hearts are hard.
4Therefore, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we lived according to the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, bearing fruit for death. 6But now, having died to what bound us, we have been released from the law, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. (Romans 7:4-6) False teachers, you included will face an angry God on judgment day. Repent.
Christ did not eat with sinners, he ate with sinners who had confessed their guilt and repented and he rejected those who believed that they did not need forgiveness because of their outward appearance of godliness. So, the true sinners were the scribes and pharisees who never admitted their guilt. These folks Christ rejected and still rejects all who deny that they have sinned.
Not being beholden to any law is very attractive to most people. Telling people they can do as they want to without feeling guilty is what creates a mega-church. Reading Acts 21 in isolation makes it look as if Paul was indeed believing in and observing all Jewish laws. But his own words in 1 Cor 9:20-23 tells another story. Here Paul describes his sales tactics--tell the sucker what he wants to hear to make a sale. His advice is much the same as found in Victor Lustig's (the man who 'sold' the Eiffel Tower twice) Ten Commandments. Paul gives his reasons in verse 23: _I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings._ One should take all relevant evidence into account before deciding. 1 Cor 9:20-23 tells us not to take Acts 21 at face value. What you do is cherry-picking, which is a form of dishonest reasoning. Dishonesty in religion is extremely common, if not the norm.
Reading 1 Corinthians 9 in isolation gives you that false impression, but by Paul’s own word, he did indeed obey God’s law (Acts 24:14, Acts 26: 22-23, Romans 7:12, Romans 7:22, Romans 7:25). The verses you quoted are three sentences in the midst of a letter. These words were not written in a vacuum. You cannot simply strip it from its context and apply it anywhere you please. The previous chapter and the chapter that follows provide insight into what Paul was saying here. In the previous chapter, 1 Corinthians 8, Paul was speaking of being a stumbling block for believers in Christ in regard to matters of conscience, specifically food offered to idols. This chapter, chapter 9, was just Paul giving examples of how he lived this out. Though he had the right to eat and drink (1 Corinthians 9:3), get married (1 Corinthians 9:5), get paid (1 Corinthians 9: 6-18), and other things, he laid these freedoms down so that he wouldn’t be a stumbling block (1 Corinthians 9:12). Though we are free from man made rules and opinions, Paul chose to obey them in the presence of those who observe them so that he could reach them (1 Corinthians 8:13, 1 Corinthians 9:19, 1 Corinthians 9: 22-23, 1 Corinthians 10: 29-33). To the Jews, he acted like a Jew. Probably fasting on certain days. To those under The Law, he acted like those under The Law. To those who were outside The Law, he acted like them. Probably more lax in his dress and in his speech. Then, in the very next chapter, Paul continues about how we are not to be stumbling blocks in regard to matters of conscience, food offered to idols specifically.
@@NANA-fh6we 1 Cor 9:19 - 23 is a standalone declaration of Paul's modus operandi and his reason for doing so. In essence, he said he _'became'_ like his intended target to win the target for the gospel. Obviously, he didn't change his beliefs and lifestyle possibly several times a day. That means he just pretended. This is very similar to two of Victor Lustig's Ten Commandments: _Wait for the other person to reveal any political opinions, then agree with them,_ and, _let the other person reveal religious views, then have the same ones._ If Paul in some cases deviated from his playbook it doesn't mean he had totally abandoned his playbook, unless he said so or consistently changed his modus operandi. You're reading your own opinion into the Bible. Luckily for you, the Bible is often unclear. I mean, there are more than 30,000 Christian denominations. Even if it were only 3,000 or 300, that's still a lot claiming their beliefs are based on the same book. Obfuscation is your big friend. You come from a background that values speculation and baseless ideas--the arts and humanities. Where I come from, wrong ideas have consequences, often terrible ones, mostly sooner rather than later. And it's always easy to identify the person who made the mistake.
10:24 Claiming Paul was a DECEIVER. If Paul was a deceiver, then his entire ministry is a fraud. Is that what these people are saying and trying to prove?
It's unfortunate that this man's teachings are not gospel centered. Read Acts with pencil in hand and count the times Luke uses words like believe, gospel (good news), saved, salvation, preached Jesus or Christ. It's all about Jesus not my law-keeping Acts 15:10. The whole mosaic law was after the promise to Abraham and written to lead us to Christ (Gal 3:24). If we are to rely on our keeping the law (Gal 3:10), we are cursed. We do not abandon the moral law, but by the Holy Spirit, and love for God we can now love it though our best intentions are wrought with imperfections. Ultimately we rely on Jesus who did keep the law perfectly and for believers, His righteousness is transferred to us! This is the good news, the gospel!
No. Paul did not teach against the Law of Moses. He explained the fullness of the Law was Christ. The Commandments of God are spiritual. The children of Israel were carnal. Jesus makes us spiritual. Paul said in Ephesians that this grace was hid from man. From ages to ages, but revealed in Christ. Under the Law there was no salvation. No remission of sins. The Law made nothing perfect, but, the bringing in of a better hope did. The Levitical priesthood was superseded by Jesus priesthood, after the order of Melchizect, not Aaron's. Paul's letters explained the Old Testament to both Jew and Gentile alike. God hid these things from man. But, that's where prophesy comes in. In God's mind, the Law was always spiritual. But man is carnal. The Law could not make you spiritual. But, in Romans 8:2; For the Law of life of liberty in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Moses law brought death. Jesus law, the gospel brought us life. The Law was a shadow of good things to come. It was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. We don't keep the Law of Moses. Christ excelled Moses. Moses wrote of Christ. Moses is the Lawgiver, but Christ gives us grace. We keep the ten commandments, but we don't need the Law. In respects of Aaron's priesthood. Christ is our high priest.
Paul's action was a show for the public - it was like a man who showed up with his wife and demonstrated his affection for his wife and family to silence the rumor he had a mistress. Jerusalem believers were fooled, but we cannot be fooled by it because we have the advantage of reading all his epistles. He was indeed committing adultery, planning to marry his mistress. Read Colossians 2:16, 1 Timothy 4:4-5, 1 Cor 10:25, 30. Galatians 5:2, 12, and so forth. Paul set up a new religion for Gentiles and his epistles were the main reason why Christians are the way they are now - uncircumcised, devouring unclean food, worshipping on Sundays. Of course, according to the Bible, early Christians followed God's law. God's people follow God's word, Paul's people follow Paul's word.
Read 2 Peter 3:16... 119 Ministries has teachings on every one of the verses you have quoted... They ALL support people following GOD's Law... The amin reason why "Christians" are the way they are right now is outlined in 3 John 1:9... That wsa the beginning of the Roman Catholic "Church"...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Please remember that the New Testament (NT) had not been considered part of the Scriptures until the Protestants proclaimed it so, which was not the right thing to do. Even in the Roman Catholic Church, which has held Paul in the highest regard, I was told that the NT was not part of the Scriptures but the most valuable references while I attended the church in the 1980s. That was one thing they taught correctly. A collection by paganized Roman Catholics cannot make a book part of the Scriptures, nor can the proclamation of Gentile leaders at a much later time. The Scriptures refer to the Old Testament, which Jesus and His immediate disciples called the Scriptures. It is false to say Paul taught Gentiles to live according to God’s law because he did not. The explanations by 119 Ministries on defending Paul are procrustean and undermine their otherwise wonderful work. Why can't they simply say that when there is a discrepancy between the Scriptures and Paul’s epistles, we should follow the Scriptures? Such a position would probably be more viable if we were to find in the future that Paul’s epistles were corrupted by Roman bishops who wanted to create a unifying Roman religion inclusive of all pagans from different religions.
The Nazarite Vow does not come from "Pharisee's"... Paul took a Nazarite vow and had to shave his head when he broke it... HOW did he break his vow? He made himself "unclean" when he placed his body onto a young man's dead body... (Acts 20:9)
@@nunyabiz5880 Numbers 6:9 And if any man die very suddenly by him, and he hath defiled the head of his consecration; then he shall shave his head in the day of his cleansing, on the seventh day shall he shave it. Special Circumstances: If a Nazirite accidentally comes into contact with a dead body, they must shave their head, bring offerings, and restart the period of their vow. This process ensures that their time of dedication is wholly consecrated. Paul was in the Diaspora and unable to get to the Temple within 7 days...
A final test? How so? What you saw insinuating is God allowed someone to Deceive people under the guise that the word of Paul is his word. What you are saying makes the Lord of Hosts a deceiver which he most certainly is not. So show me in the Old testament where Yah said he would send someone to deceive people in this way. It most certainly is not supported by any scripture.
@@WalkerJani "So show me in the Old testament where Yah said he would send someone to deceive people in this way. It most certainly is not supported by any scripture." 1 Kings 22:21 through 23 - 21Then a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD, and said, ‘I will entice him.’ ‘By what means?’ asked the LORD. 22And he replied, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets.’ ‘You will surely entice him and prevail,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.’ 23So you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours, and the LORD has pronounced disaster against you.”… Because people don't heed the warning that Peter gave us about Paul's Writings in: 2 Peter 3:15 through 17 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS and fall from your secure standing. Paul was called a "BROTHER" by Peter... And ignorant and unstable people twist what Paul wrote as they have done the rest of the Scriptures... 2 Chronicles 18:21 - 21And he replied, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets.’ ‘You will surely entice him and prevail,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 through 11 - 9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, It doesn't matter who says what in the Bible... If people WANT to be "Lawless", they will twist anyone's words... Paul just happens to be the author of choice because as Peter stated, "He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand," Acts 9:15 - “Go!” said the Lord. “ This man is My chosen instrument to carry My name before the Gentiles and their kings, and before the people of Israel. Folks should REALLY watch what they say about Paul, ESPECIALLY since the Messiah Himself CHOSE Paul to bring the Gospel to the Gentiles and Kings...
2 Peter 3:15-17 "And consider the long-suffering of YAHWEH to be our redemption, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which some things are hard to understand, *which those that are ignorant and unstable pervert* their meaning, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore beloved, since you know these things beforehand, guard yourself, lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness."
@@truthnottradition7 Paul didn't "convert"... None of the Apostles "converted" either... "Conversion" is a Roman Catholic term... Heathens and Pagans can "convert" to Christianity... Paul came to the realization that he had met with with prophecy revealed in Messiah Yeshua and he repented...
Very selectively biased teaching, very pro law. Most hate the teaching of grace. Most had abandoned Paul by the end of his career. The law was not given to the nations Romans 2:14. The law came in by the way, that the offense should be increasing. Ouch, for all you lovers of law, you lawyers. Sin gets an incentive from law Romans 7:8. Again, Ouch. Really all of Chapter 7. Most who hate grace and love law don't avoid these verses.
Look at these false doctrine by these false teachers trying to protect this false apostle you know they don’t listen to the Holy Spirit and know him not Paul is false and if you listen to these you Will Be In Hell With Them
2 Peter 3:15 through 17 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS and fall from your secure standing. Nuf said...
YHWHs WORDs are forever
Do we nullify Torah by our belief?
YAH forbid,
We confirm Torah by our faith!
We confirm THE faith (His faith / His testimony) which is the New Covenant Law which is the Kingdom of God - Jesus and the resurrected saints that slept. Moses Law is the teacher to bring us to the understanding that we cannot do it ourselves. It brings us to the truth that God completed His Work in Christ's death, burial, and 3rd day resurrection which includes His New creation resurrected with Him - the church reserved in heaven - which God raised with Him as the Head and they the Body - which the gates of the grave (their tombs) did not prevail against. All who believe are His at His coming with them are the next in order to be saved. We are saved by this Work of Grace through faith in the Work of God and not by the works of the torah. Christ died, was buried, and rose the 3rd day according to the torah, prophets and psalms. 1 Cor 15:1-4. He literally fulfilled the torah and so do we when we Love God wholeheartedly and love our neighbor (everyone) as ourselves. We are saved by faith in His finished Work of Grace. Romans 10:9 Confess Jesus as Lord and Believe wholeheartedly that God raised Him out of the Dead (saints) according to the torah and we will be saved when they return. Evil men have omitted much of the gospel for the sake of filthy lucre. They want to put a price on the word - so they can peddle it like wares - The Word of God is PRICELESS! The truth sets us free from the merchandisers of God's Word.
AND THIS WE* ARE THE ISRAELITES/HEBREW/JUDEAN PEOPLE
NOT ALL HUMANITY AS GRECO-ROMAN -JUDEO -CHRISTIANS TEACH.
FOR THE LAW ITSELF SETS THE AUDIENCE-HEAR O ISRAEL*
THERE IS NO HEAR O,HEATHEN/PEOPLES OR HEAR O, CHRISTIANITY.
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Blessings be upon you and your loved ones.
@@Lemuel_Ben_Israel
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, [MAN] shall not live by bread alone, but [BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD]
[MAN] Anthropos meaning: a human being, whether male or female
It wasn't JUST ISRAEL that came out of EGYPT , there was a MIXT MULTITUDE.
Any one that has an EAR TO HEAR oh ISRAEL.
So many wolves in sheep’s clothing. Yeshua warned us not to be deceived for good reason. Shabbat shalom.
כמו תמיד, מצוין סרטון. תודה רבה רבה אחיים. שבת שלום ויברכך יהוה וישמרך.
"JEHOVAH"
Interesting, as there was NO "J" 500years ago....
Yahuah is the Name of the Father, Yahusha His Son....
@@yahuahisking8179 Your knowledge of the language is lacking brother. First, I only typed the tetragrammaton (YHWH) and TH-cam's translation makes it 'jehovah'. And yes, I am keenly aware of the lack of 'j' until about 500 years ago.
As for the other names, well, let's just say that we will have to wait until They tell us HOW their actual names are vocalized. Until then, I will worry FAR MORE about the AUTHORITY which they carry.
Thanks for 'attempting' to look out for me, but I am good and will continue as I feel led by YAHWEH and Yahshua/Yeshua/Yahoshua/Joshua.
שבת שלום ויברכך יהוה וישמרך.
@@CovMixMultofIsrael
Thanks for your reply.
Just as a note, modern hebrew is NOT the language I use.... it's a dead empty shell.of Yahs true Word...
"I am that I am'
@@yahuahisking8179
Just as a note:
If you really want to get technical about it...
2000 Years ago there weren't any "English Letters"...
The Hebrew letters written above by @CovMixMultofIsrael are closer to the original than what you and I are writing here...
When Yeshua/Yehoshua returns, He will set us all straight on the Name to call Him...
We will also correctly pronounce the Name YeHoVaH... (We'll probably call Him Abba, just like His Son does)
If you can post a verifiable sound bite from the time period that proves how to pronounce the Names in the Bible correctly, you can admonish someone for their "pronunciation"...
Until then, I'd just like to leave you with this little tid-bit...
Even between the Tribes of Israel, Names were pronounced differently...
Judges 12:6 - they told him, “Please say Shibboleth.” If he said, “Sibboleth,” because he could not pronounce it correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. So at that time 42,000 Ephraimites were killed.
SMH...
@@yahuahisking8179 Yes, but without modern Hebrew, I can't talk to our brothers in Judah about Messiah Yahshua, and how Christianity created a mask which keeps them from recognizing Him. It is a requirement for me, but I try to memorize 'משמעות כפול' or both meanings.
Best of luck in your FREE WILL offerings in doing Good Works! Much love to you and yours!
Shalom Aleichem
The Law is output from Yahweh's Mind. To disparage obedience to it places one in agreement with the adversary. The more laws one breaks, the more legal ground Satan has to accuse.
The idea that Paul would change his treatment towards the law dependant upon who he was around would be extremely hypocritical, seeing as how it is cited that he checked Peter for committing a similar offense in Galatians 2:11-14.
When I read Act 21:20 I see that there was many Jews who did believe in Yeshuas and they did keep the Law.
It's not about jewish tradition of men. It's about the Law of Moses. Keep the Law of Moses in the right way as Yeshua did .
Paul did believe in The Law and the Prophets. He did teach the gospel from the Law and the Prophets. So what does the Prophet say?
Isaiah 66:15--18 & 22--24
Paul did not change his view of the Law depending on who he was around. The thing Paul is addressing in Gal. 2:11-14 concerns the Orthodox Jewish custom of not eating with Gentiles. This custom is not taught in the Law at all. That is where your theology goes wrong. It was a custom that was added and perpetuated by the Pharisees. Paul called Peter out because the latter adhered to the custom of the Pharisees. That's what made him a hypocrite.
"The Law" and "customs" are not the same.
@@rebeccasmith8567
Correct.
The argument you make is flawed at its root. Specifically, scripture is clear that Acts 21 addresses an accusation that Paul was teaching Jews not to obey the law. This is, as you point out, completely false. Paul never taught Jews to disobey the law. Paul taught Gentiles that the law did not apply. This brings us to the root of the problem. Your argument asserts that gentiles who believe become Jews. And that is not taught to be true in scripture. As a side note, I agree that nowhere does the bible claim that the law is done away with. Rather, a Christian has more to obey than called for in the law of Moses. The issue is not 'what we do' but 'why we do it.'
Denying the 10 commandments sounds a lot like "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" 😢
That is precisely what it is!
Xtianity is full of selfish, lawless money loving grubs
When I saw the Sabbath still applied I tried to study it out with my Church of Christ elders. One of them told me that any church that teaches the 10 commandment still apply are heretics. I was suddenly scared for him and the state of his soul.
Shabbat shalom.
@@truthnottradition7
If you are still in contact with him maybe you could share these passages with him.
Rev 12:17
And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those GUARDING THE COMMANDMENTS OF ALAHYM and possessing the witness of יהושע Messiah.
Rev 14:12
Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those GUARDING THE COMMANDMENTS OF ALAHYM and the belief of יהושע.
Rev 22:14
“Blessed are those doing HIS COMMANDMENTS, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city.
Shabat shalom to all observers. Thank you David n 119 Ministries. I myself was Confused until Heavenly Father straightened me out😊.
One thing I do know, Satan is having alot of fun confusing clueless people with Saul's writings n sad to say have led many astray 🥺. Like Adam n Chavah. I have learned my lesson, never, never second guess Heavenly Father's n Yeshua's WORDS, n TORAH. They are TRUE n ENDURES FOREVER/EVERLASTING.
Shabbat shalom ❤️
Shabbat Shalom❣
Great presentation. Thank you.
Stanley/ Solberg seems to have more faith in their (Missing the mark) - interpretation of Paul, rather than Jesus.
I can't tolerate to listen to either one of them...
I'm like stop trying to make yourself one of the "least in the kingdom"!
It is no coincidence the 4 laws abstain from pollutions of idols, things strangled, blood, and sexual immorality. Lev 19:4, Lev 19:26, Lev 20:10-21,
These laws are predominantly from Lev Ha'Torah Leviticus 19 - 20.
YAH .... Always startes with the heart. Here new believers are told to start with Lev Ha'Torah, The Heart of Torah first cleaning out the inside of the cup that the outside will become clean also...
Blessings....
Blessings and Shalom Wade...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Shalom Bawb and may HE bless and keep you and yours.
The one who gave the commandments at Sinai IS the same THAT died on the tree YAH doesn't change.
Wow yeah. Thats true cause I heard that from a messianic rabbi I know he said the same thing Today. 📖🛐
YAH CANNOT DIE NOR EVER BE FOUND AS A MAN NOR BE A BABE IN A WOMB.
YOU ARE DELUSIONAL
THE ONE DYING IS YAHAWASH HA MESSIAH -A MAN CALLED [SON OF MAN] AND CONFIRMED BY YAH AS HIS BELOVED SON.
Amen amen
Baruj HaShem!!!
Excellent video
It confuses me as to why anyone wants do away with Gods instructions and teaches others to ignor The Fathers laws
Rom. 8:7 explains why: the carnal mind is hostile against God's laws and His government. That's where all of the righteous-sounding arguments against the Law comes from. A lot of ppl want to claim Christianity as long as they can continue living like atheists. A lot of ppl want to be considered good without being required to DO good.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 why is it that I believe and accept his word
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 thank you so much for your help. This response is the best anyone ever gave me. So grateful, Shalom
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 thank you, I agree with your response.
Very insightful, thank you
Excellent teaching!
The number one problem in the church, they teach verses not context.
A good church does verse by verse expository teaching. Not all churches are bad.
Mazel Tov David excellent teaching!
God bless you brothers
I’ve learned a lot
As the Word tells us.... "They will call good evil and evil good...."
The Torah of Yahuah still stands for every TRUE beliver today....
Those not keeping the Fathers Torah, with a heart and LOVE for Him, are not true followers of Yahusha, and do not "Walk as He walked"
Solburg is a follower of satan, and will end up with his "father" the father of LIES..... (unless he repents)
Nonsense
@@lavieenrose5954
Time will tell......
Remember ye the Torah of Mosheh my servant, which I commanded unto him in Chorev for all Yashar'el, with the commandments and judgments. MAL`AKIY (MALACHI) 4:4 את CEPHER
No matter what you may think about Paul. This statement is absolute FACT: The reason why 95% of all Christians abrogate the Torah is because of the writings of Paul. The reason why 95% of the Jews reject Yeshua as Messiah is because of the writings of Paul. I think Paul is THEE test of Duet 13. Yah told us He would send false Prophets to test us....a doozy of a test it is, as well. Yeshua said it all in Matt 7:21-27. Who do you think He was talking to? It wasn't the Buddhists who call Him, Lord, Lord....it was the lukewarm christians thinking that blurting out a 'magic' sentence once in their lives brings eternal salvation.
I guess we will see.
The reason why I follow what the Bible states is because I wasn't brought up in the Apostate "church"...
I took what was written in 2 Peter 3:15 through 17 and used it to understand what Paul was writing about...
Peter called Paul their BROTHER...
Yeshua told us that Paul was HIS chosen vessel...
From my point of view 95% of "Christians" believe nonsense because it was taught to them by the Constantinian 'church"...
The "church" that evolved from the abominated Roman Catholic Church who syncretized every abhorrent Pagan/Heathen rite into the worship of a Holy GOD...
The "Protestant" Church protests little other than the Word of GOD...
Of which it hold the "traditions of men" to a higher regard...
People need to stop using what Paul said as a scapegoat for their laziness and ignorance of the Word of GOD...
THE THINGS OUR BROTHER PAUL WRITES ARE HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD
BY UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE WHO WREST HIS WRITINGS AS THEY WREST ALL THE OTHER SCRIPTURE-TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
@@Lemuel_Ben_Israel No matter what you may think about Paul. This statement is absolute FACT: The reason why 95% of all Christians abrogate the Torah is because of the writings of Paul. The reason why 95% of the Jews reject Yeshua as Messiah is because of the writings of Paul.
YAH AND THE ISRAELITE/HEBREW /JUDEAN PEOPLE OF THE LATTERDAYS ARE MOST HATED BY GRECO-ROMAN-JUDEO- CHRISTIANITY [FULL BLOWN ENMITY]
THESE TWO CAMPS ARE FOREVER OPPOSED { HOUSE YAH VS. HOUSE BELIAL}
THERE IS NO [god-deity ] OF CHRISTAINITY DECLARED IN THE BIBLE RECORD
SUCH A CREATURE IS THE INVENTION OF EUROPEAN THEOLOGIANS.
NEITHER HAS YAH REJECTED ISRAELITES FOR NON-ISRAELITE PEOPLES.
PSALM 78:5- FOR YAH ESTABLISHED A TESTIMONY IN JACOB* [ALL 12 TRIBES]
AND APPOINTED A LAW IN ISRAEL* {ONLY IN AND OF AND FOR OUR NATION}
TO HEAR NON-ISRAELITE {HEATHEN-DOGS} DISCUSSING A LAW WHICH NEVER PERTAINED TO THEM IS SHEER MADNESS- FOR NEITHER OUR YAH NOR HIS NATION SHALL EVER GIVE {HOLY THINGS} TO DOGS.
Ive been there. Paul's writings can be confusing. Thats why we need to ask (holy spirit) God to open up our understanding to the teachings. 🙏
Time stamp 10:40... IF Paul went into The Temple of GOD, And made a False Pretense before GOD... Who then would want to follow a man who "lied" to GOD to prove a point to men.... That did not happen under false Pretenses...
Amen
'1 Corinthians 9:20 - And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law'
I personally think that when paul uses the term under the law he is refering to being under the penalty of the law. We are no longer under the penalty of the law since christ paid the penalty.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death [Exodus 31:14-15; Exodus 35:1-2; Numbers 15:32-36; 2 Corinthians 3:7], but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord [Matthew 11:28-30; Hebrews 4]. (NASB)
What I believe after wrestling with The Ruach for awhile, there are Wedding Guests, (maybe us Torah learning, zealous,)
Then
There are
70 nations, there are ppl who are a Torah to themselves, aka., motal, right, decent - despite the enlightened semetary doctrines. Yeshua/Jesus answered my prayers before I was shown, what for me was missing.
So, I think for us, we ought to be above the Xtain "thang" and Ask Hashem to put us out where we can make the Jews jealous. Bc, frankly who else can? Only non-Jews doing what Native Jews do, or ought to.
Adonai Bless you and keep you all, it's a comfort to know you're out there, like me, loving Israel for real, and learning daily, TORAH!
Amen Shalom
I disagree about the meaning of "under law". I believe it is referring to an authority relationship in which the law is the master of the one under it. Paul wasn't under the law of the Pharisees, the Romans, nor even of God. He was obedient to God's Law as a son, not as a slave which is bound under it.
UNDER THE LAW MEANS UNDER THE IMMEDIATE DEATH SENTENCE WHICH WAS
REQUIRED FOR SINS SUCH AS ADULTERY AND EVEN BEASTIALITY.
BUT WE ARE ABLE TO BE JUSTIFIED FROM ALL THESE THINGS WE COULD NOT BE
JUSTIFIED FROM WHILE UNDER THE MINISTRY OF MOSES-AS THE MINISTRY OF THE HEBREW SON NOW SUPERCEEDS...BUT ONLY FOR ISRAELITES.
WE [ISRAELITES] NOW HAVE FORGIVENESS FOR SINS COMMITTED [AS DANIEL SAYS TO US* IN CHAP. 9:11-ALL ISRAEL HAS TRANSGRESSED- SINNED]
{AN INDICTMENT AGAINST ISRAELITES NOT ALL HUMANITY- AS LIARS TEACH}
ALL PROPHETS FROM MOSES CLEARLY TEACH WE HAVE SINNED AND CLEARLY
SHOW IN OUR RECORDS THAT THE [WE*] ARE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL- NONE ELSE.
MESSIAH IN ALL INTERACTIONS WITH ISRAELITES IN EVERY GOSPEL ACCOUNT SPEAKS 2 THINGS-YE MUST TURN FROM YOUR SIN AND HAVE FAITH IN MY POWER
TO BRING SALVATION TO ISRAEL.
MESSIAH IN ALL INTERACTION WITH NON-ISRAELITES NEVER SPEAKS CONCERNING SIN NOR SALVATION UNTO THEM
THEY CANNOT COME TO HIM HAVING NEVER RECEIVED THE LAW
FOR THE LAW [GIVEN TO ALL ISRAEL] MUST BRING US TO THE TRUE HEBREW SON.
🙏🏾
I’ve struggled with this “law” thing for many years and after much prayer, supplication and good Berean virtues I am come to the conclusion that (1) the “law of Moses” is not nor was not Moses’ law but rather Yahuahs law GIVEN to Moses to impart to the Israelites and not for Yahs good but for the good of His people. (2) What possible good vs bad would it be for me a gentile, to observe and obey these laws since I identify as a follower of Yahushua who Himself observed and obeyed them? (3) The whole teaching in N.T. scripture is that one is NOT justified by the law but rather IS sanctified by them. Sanctification is a process whereas justification is immediate. (4) I don’t have to obey the laws of the land to be considered an American but MUST however suffer the consequences if and when I violate them. (5) Interestingly enough, I hear people say they do not have to follow the 613 laws of “Moses” but fail to acknowledge the 1100+ commands as clearly stated in the N.T. (6) in conclusion, apart from the in dwelling Spirit of Yah NO, and I repeat NO ONE , can follow “Moses”, Yah, nor Yahushua .
Keep fighting the GOOD fight my brothers and just know and understand that the spiritual forces of wickedness in “high” places are at work. Shalom.
Ps, what does it mean to obey “God”? Is it to “do as tho wilt”. Hum seems that’s what the “great” satanist Alistair Crowley said. Hum!!!
And o I forgot to mention, I’ll bet you McArthur is circumcised lol. Don’t know nor want to know but would bet he is. SORRY for the edits. I’m done.
What I do not understand is WHY Christians are so intimidated by Jews and Judaism? Christians do not seem to be so intimidated by say - atheist - but Judaism seems to be such a problem. Why is that??
Not teaching AGAINST the law is no different than REFUSING to TEACH and KEEP the Commandments of God.
Because they've been brainwashed with the idea that the law is "bondage".
I am not a "Christian"...
But perhaps, I can give some insight?
Yeshua (who was a Jew and the LION of Judah) taught the Laws of His Father but also taught AGAINST many of the "TRADITIONS" in Judaism...
Hand washing... (netilat yadayim)
Offerings as corban when parents were starving...
Yeshua even admonished those keeping the "traditions of the elders":
Mark 7:5 through 8 - 5So the Pharisees and scribes questioned Jesus: “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders? Instead, they eat with defiled hands.” 6 Jesus answered them, “Isaiah prophesied correctly about you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 7They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men. 8You have disregarded the Commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.”
The Law of GOD (Commandments) and the Halakah of Judaism are two ENTIRELY different things...
Thus...
I am a follower of Yeshua...
I follow GOD's Laws not the "traditions of men"...
I am not "intimidated" by Jews... (I embrace them as my Brothers and Sisters as per Romans 11)
Does this clear anything up for you?
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Ahhh,, no.
There are two primary form s of Judaism: The Fundamentalist who live by the 'fundaments' (Laws of G-d) and the Traditionalist who live by the 'Traditions' of the rabbis. Jesus (rightfully) and being from the NORTH not Judea of the south, said that traditions were good - but NOT G-d's laws and should not be followed IF they contradicted with G-d's laws. Many, many of us Jews are 'Fundamentalist' and live by G-d's laws and not rabbis traditions. We follow the biblical laws that Christians falsely ignore and Jesus taught us to follow. Christians do not because they believe that the Laws of G-d have been done away with even though Jesus stated otherwise.
I suppose that in this you are saying that Christians have MORE IN COMMON with atheist who also fail to follow G-d's laws and therefore find Jews to be a threat. That is a great sadness as it is contrary to both G-d's laws and what your Jesus taught you.
@@bawbjusbawb6471 You are not a Christian, you say, and yet you are not Jewish. Does this mean you have no faith or you make it up as you go?
@@bawbjusbawb6471
Oh for heaven’s sake of course you’re a Christian!! “Follower of Yeshua” lolol 🙃
I find it fascinating that one can argue that Paul spent all that time and effort to address the idea of table-fellowship. Given the assertions of Acts 15, and the 613 laws in Torah, that the only things Paul ever addresses is table fellowship?
One question for all of those that believe the law isn't in effect: Would TMH dwell in the realms of being unfair if he took away the LAW after all of those thousands of years that people were required to ffollowing? YA is a fair and righteous God, raining on both the just and just.
RAINING ON BOTH THE JUST AND THE UNJUST OF ISRAEL
DAVID IS ONLY SPEAKING TO ISRAEL AND SO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
NON-ISRAELITE FOLK ARE NOT THE BIBLE AUDIENCE-GO SERVE ODIN EUROMAN!!.
I hear Rachel crying...when do we stop the madness? ...and in those days shall (I AM) make a New Covenant with Mankind(Israel and Foreigners). (I AM) will write knowledge of (I AM) on their hearts. None are without excuse. Make straight the path of The Lord. Do not sleep or be caught without oil for your lamp...Today is the day The Lord made, rejoice in it, for it is the day of Salvation, "your" Day of Salvation. You have a choice, life or death. (I AM) made the sacrifice for mankind. Your choice. Christ satisfied the Law of (I AM). You cannot receive grace without mercy. A person forgiven little loves little, a person forgiven much loves much ...know that we have all fallen short of the Law, but throught the Mercy of (I Am) we can live in Grace. We are loved and forgiven. We have a new heart (covenant) which guides our lives. When we walk with the Father the wake created is the law.
But if we're under Torah Would we not need to do the animal sacrifices that Torah commands or is it only certain laws in the Torah
Where are you commanded to sacrifice? Who is commanded to offer your sacrifice?
If you do it any other way than what was commanded, you would actually be breaking the law.
Daniel prophesied that Messiah would cause the daily sacrifice to cease and the temple to be made desolate (destroyed). See Daniel 9:27 kjv
I believe the ceremonial laws were temporary, they made a way for God to dwell in our presence without consuming us until Messiah would offer His own blood which continually cleanses us through His work in the heavenly temple, where He intercedes on our behalf forever as High Priest. The laws pertaining to animal sacrifices, clean and unclean due to menstruation, leprosy, etc. These were necessary in ancient times so that God could dwell in the Temple and not consume the people. Now Yeshua is our High Priest in heaven continually interceding on our behalf so we may go boldly before the Throne of grace. All of the other Laws, moral Laws, are eternal and we must learn to walk in them if we expect to enter the kingdom. Yeshua said, If you will enter into life, keep the commandments, then He goes on to quote a hanful of them so that the young man would understand He was referring to the moral Law, which is eternal. Matthew 19:17 kjv
Notice that Yeshua did not quote any ceremonial laws in this passage and this is because His sacrifice would make them void.
Remember the woman bleeding for 12 years? She was unable to enter the Temple bcuz she was unclean due to menstrual blood, but she in faith reached out and touched Yeshua's tzitzis on his garment and she was healed. Had she touched any other rabbi in her condition she would have been rebuked and this is why the passage says she was scared and trembling when Yeshua said, Who touched me?
A menstruating woman in those days was called a niddah and it meant you were unclean and your husband could not touch you until you stopped bleeding and went to a mikveh to immerse yourself. It was spiritual uncleanness because menstruating was a symbol of sin. Remember, the woman is a symbol of God's people and God's people fell from grace into sin. The niddah had to be separated from her husband for 7 days until her period ceased, then she was brought back into her husband's bedroom. This is a symbol of us being separated from God, our husband, due to uncleanness of sin. The world has been walking in sin for 6,000 yrs but in the millennium we are reunited with our husband, Yeshua. The 6,000 yrs plus 1,000 year millennium equals 7,000 yrs which is 7 days to God. The woman was a symbol of Israel and this is why she bled for 12 yrs, 12 is associated with Israel, the 12 tribes. Just like the dead girl Yeshua resurrected, she was 12 yrs old, she symbolized Israel.
_"But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets..."_
Christians were viewed as a "sect" of Judaism. Meaning, one whose actions and beliefs accord to those of the traditional Hebrew faith -- at least predominantly. Clearly, the post-resurrection Christians of the time were Torah observant. Including the offering of Temple sacrifices.
YOU ARE IN GRAVE ERROR THERE IS NOTHING CALLED JUDAISM IN OUR BOOK. THOSE BLACK HEBREW MEN ARE CALLED XIPHIOSTOS IN THE [GREEK] NO ENGLISH SPOKEN ON THE PLANET TILL THE 4TH CENTURY.
WHAT YOU NOW TERM {CHRISTIANS/ KRISTIANS IN ENGLISH} WERE ACTUALLY MELANATED-BLACK IN COLOR MEN-{NYGER-NIG****}
MEN WHO WERE ISRAELITES/HEBREWS AND JUDEAN PEOPLE RAN OUT OF JERUSALEM BY OTHER MELANATED MEN LIKE THEMSELVES AFTER THE PERSECUTION AND DEATH OF MELANATED MAN {STEPHEN}
THERE ARE NO {WHITE} EUROPEANS MEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE CONTROVERSIES RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF ACTS WHEN IT COMES TO HEBREW FAITH MATTERS-ALL THE EURO RULERS DO IS LOCK THEM UP OR EXECUTE THEM.
AND THAT IS THE ONLY ROLE OF THE EURO IN THE HEBREW SALVATION STORY.
ALL ILLEGAL EUROPEANS INSERTED THEMSELVES INTO THE BIBLE NARRITIVE
DURING THE TIME OF WICKED {EURO BEAST MAN} CONSTANTINE
PRETENDING THAT THEY WERE NOW RECEPIENTS OF A HEBREW SALVATION.
AND NOW WE LAST-DAY REMNANT OFISRAEL RISING BACK UP TO LIFE
REMIND YE ILLEGAL EURO ENCROUCHERS-OFF YE GO.. OUTSIDERS/HEATHENS
YE HAVE NEITHER LOT NOR PART IN THE BUILDING OF A SPIRITUAL HOUSE TO YAH
Acts 21:25 is an addition to the text. We know this from the facts #1 it's not in older manuscripts #2 it's not ever recognized as being a verse from any other outside writings such as the church fathers, etc. #3 the verse itself literally says "that they do no such things other than" or "they do no such things save ONLY" (something along those lines) which isn't in the original statement from the Jerusalem council. From these facts it's easy to see Acts 21:25 is an obvious addition.
Paul was very clear in teaching that Christians are no longer married to the law but to Jesus Christ.
We are no longer obligated to keep the ceremonial law or the moral law for justification because we are justified by grace through faith.
The law condemns. Christ saves.
Some people argue that although Paul did take the vow and went to the temple to proof that what was said about him wasnt true he didnt went threw the whole proses and was prevented and that proofs that he was actually gilty . Would like to hear your opinion
Paul didn't preach that the law is abolished, but that Christ is the fulfillment of it in each of us. What the law of Moses could never do Acts 13:39, God did through the fulfilled mission of Christ. So many want to remain under the law and not come to the truth of grace. Grace is what God did in raising Jesus out of His generation which was slaughtered. Matthew 2:16-18 / Matthew 27:52-53. The resurrection of these firstfruits with Jesus begins the New Creation. They are the church of the Firstborn written in heaven Heb 12:23 and reserved for us 1 Peter 1:4 - the Coming Kingdom of God. - They are coming to inherit their land and all who believe the truth will be co heirs Rom 8:17 / Eph 3:6 with them. Jer 31:17
LISTEN UP EUROMAN THE ONLY WE* INHERITING IS THIS [ONE-1] WE*
HEB.8:10 FOR THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL
LEAVING OUT [FOREVER] HOUSE HEATHENS/ HOUSE JUDEO- CHRISTIANITY
THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW IS NOT MESSIAH-HE IS THE END OF THE LAW FOR ISRAEL'S RIGHTEOUSNESS.
{THE GREATEST POINT- THE SAVING END GOAL WE MUST ATTAIN}
THE FULFILLMENT IS THIS BEHOLD I WILL MAKE ALL THINGS NEW INCLUDING GIVE TO THE TRUE {ISRAELITES-THOSE DISPISED IN ALL THE EARTH} A NEW COVENANT.
AND NO IT'S NOT THE ISRAELI/JEWISH [IMPOSTER] WHOM EVERYBODY ON THE PLANET LOVES-BUT {NIG**** HISPANICS AND INDEGENOUS} MUCH HATED.
paul taught against the law of sin & death... NOT the law of moses
What do you mean by this?
@@Bri-lo3un First, we must understand that Paul's writings are hard to understand, especially when we have not been taught that Paul was a Hebrew man who thought with the Hebrew 'mindset' (which is very different than our "western thinking English mindset). Even though he thought in the Hebrew mindset, in his God-given Hebrew language, with its Hebrew CONTEXT that was ALWAYS ACCORDING TO & Corresponding with the Law of Moses, Paul could also speak and write several other languages. He was the son of a Pharisee (Acts 23:6) & was an extremely intelligent person, highly educated "having been instructed according to the exactness of the Torah of our fathers, at the feet of the renowned Torah teacher, Gamli'el" (Acts 22:2-3). This all started at a very young age when Paul was required by Gamli'el to memorize the Torah (the Law of Moses). Paul continued to be the top student in his class while being trained for years to become a Pharisee Rabbi (being trained to think, speak, & argue like an Expert 'lawyer' in God's Law) which contributed to Paul's unique writing & teaching style that confused many people, especially new believers. It is also important to understand that Paul stayed a Pharisee his WHOLE life (even AFTER becoming a true believer) in Yeshua (Jesus). Luke writes in (Acts 24:14-16) that Paul confesses, "I worship the God of my fathers, believing all that has been written in the Torah (Law of Moses) and written in the Prophets". Luke also writes that Paul says that he "stands, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other than what the Prophets and Moses said ..."(Acts 26:22). And for a third witness of what Paul always taught, Luke wrote in (Acts 28:23) "Paul was explaining, earnestly witnessing about the reign of God, and persuading them concerning Yeshua (Jesus) from both the Torah of Moses and the Prophets, from morning until evening." However, we also see the other side to Paul's writings & teachings being misunderstood, which is documented in Apostle Peter's letter to the assemblies that warns Paul's letters to the elders of the newly formed assemblies were being twisted even back then (2 Peter 3:15-17).
With all that being said, it is also Vitally Important to understand that in Paul's letters, Paul is NOT always writing about the Law of Moses when he writes the word 'law'. Paul being a Pharisee Rabbi (a Torah 'lawyer'), he likes to use the word 'law' so he creates 'names' for laws, such as "the law of sin" & "the law of sin and of death", which again are NOT given names in the Torah (God's Law/ the Law of Moses), but Paul uses made up names for 'laws' based on Torah principles to teach the new believers about the penalty of sinning against Father YAH's Law/the Law of Moses, which POINTS OUT sin. (The Torah reveals or EXPOSES sins because it shows what is sin & what is not sin in Father YAH's eyes, according to HIS standards R0 7:7). Paul is teaching them that this 'law' that he calls 'the law of sin' is when one sins against the Law of Moses. He also explains that 'the law of sin' comes with a "wage" which carries the penalty due to us for our sin (R0 6:23), which is eternal separation from YAH (he calls this 'the law of sin & of death' -- r0 8:2). Paul teaches the new believers that since they have trusting belief in Yeshua (Jesus) for their salvation, they are to reckon themselves dead to sin because they 'have been set free from the 'law of sin' & from 'the law of sin & of death' to become servants of righteousness' (R0 6:18-19 & roe mun 8:4) so that they CAN DO the Law of God/The Law of Moses without fear of eternal death if/when they make a mistake.
Paul says since they have already been given their free gift of salvation, now they are to present their members (their body parts) as servants of righteousness resulting in set-apartness (holiness) for God's use, because they are not to continue to live in sin since they have "died to sin" with Yeshua (Jesus) (Romans 6:1-2).
Paul confesses to the other believers in (Romans 7:7; 14; & 22-25) that he still struggles with sin in his own body, which causes him to do the things that he doesn't want to do, but with his mind he serves the Torah (the Law of Moses) that does not create the sin, but gives the 'Knowledge of sin' and he realizes that it is the sin that kills ('the law of sin and of death').
Thankfully Father YAH & Yeshua (Jesus) Redeemed us & set us free from the power of 'the law of sin' and from 'the law of sin and of death' giving us life by YaH's grace through Yeshua's perfect, forever, sinless offering of himself & rebirth by YAH's Spirit of Holiness & Truth. Paul NEVER taught against YAH's Torah (the Law of God/the Law of Moses), and he NEVER taught that the Torah was done away with, nor did he teach that the Torah ended, nor was abolished, nor was replaced by anyone. He taught "So that the Torah is truly set-apart (Holy), and the Command Holy, and Righteous and Good & is Spiritual (Romans 6:18, & Romans 7:12 & 14) which are the exact SAME things that Yeshua (Jesus) taught in (John 8:31-32 & 34-36). Hope these things help you, Prayers for His Understanding, Blessings & Shalom!
@@Bri-lo3un
119 Ministries has a video that explains this...
It's called "Which Law Paul"...
Here is a summary of that video:
1. The Law of GOD (Romans 3:31, 7:22-25 and 8:7)
2. The Law of Sin (Romans 7:23-25)
3. The Law of Sin and Death (Romans 8:2)
4. The Law of Spirit and Life (Romans 8:2)
5. The Law of Faith (Romans 3:27)
6. The Law of Righteousness (Romans 9:31)
7. The Law of Christ (Corinthians 9:21)
Time stamp 2:18... Maybe he missed The Prophecy of The Messiah... "...Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Yehoshua H3091/G2424 (Jesus)...." Or maybe he did not believe what The Messiah had to say... "...Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..." Or what Paul had to say... "...Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law..." Makes you wonder just Who is that man following... He has denied The words of The Messiah, The Words of a Prophet, and The Words of Paul (all in The New Testament)
All of Paul's defense quotes are from Luke a companion of Paul. You can't possibly expect us to accept that as a support?
God chose Moses to preach. Who chose Paul ? Paul.
If you treat Paul's letters as Gospels without knowing what the Gospels teach, then you are free to twist Paul's words.
I talked with a woman who said, " New testament Scripture doesn't teach keeping the commandments of God"
Imagine that !
If it's not Paul then it's the Roman church using Paul's name. Either way, the damage has been done.
Did you ever notice that Roman Catholicism uses Paul to replace Judas the traitor but they reject Matthias, whom God chose to replace Judas, according to Acts. The name Matthias means Gift of God and he is a shadow type of Christ Yeshua, as Judas is a shadow type of satan
We have to understand that if Paul had been perfectly CLEAR, then there would be no disputes about whether or not he spoke against the Torah. The people who decided to put Paul in the New Testament, and who deemed Paul’s writings as authoritative, well, they simply assumed that Paul spoke against the Torah. They placed Paul in the New Testament because they thought that he spoke against the Torah. The Torah was NOT written on the hearts of the church fathers. It was their understanding that Paul was correct in teaching against the Torah. Paul’s writings have done nothing but cause the church to abandon Yeshua and Moses. His writings are a TEST. God isn’t the author of confusion.
2 Peter 3:15-17 "And consider the long-suffering of YAHWEH to be our redemption, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which some things are hard to understand, *which those that are ignorant and unstable* pervert their meaning, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore beloved, since you know these things beforehand, guard yourself, lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness."
When you consider the teachings in Christian churches today, Paul's writings are no different than other gospel writers whose words are often contorted. Many use Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23 (the last part of v. 19 was added centuries later), and Acts 10 to suggest the dietary laws have been abolished, and are convinced that's true because it's what they've always been taught, although reading these passages in context make it obvious that's not what was being conveyed. Many people contort Y'shua's words to claim he abolished the Law despite his words in Matthew 5:17-19 that clearly contradict this idea.
In Christian (Sunday-observing) churches I attended, people sometimes took scripture (including Paul's writings) out of context and twisted it to fit an agenda, although the true meaning was clear (at least to me) when read in context. It was, of course, taboo to mention any scripture that contradicted their flawed interpretation. Some scriptures have even been mistranslated or otherwise modified by translators who tried to make it fit a preexistent doctrine. Many scriptures, including Paul's writings, that were once confusing to me became crystal clear after I began studying scripture using a biblical lexicon and interlinear translation, and studied the history of "the Church," which made it evident where many popular church doctrines originated. It's important to note who, per the apostle Peter, perverts the meaning of Paul's words.
Pauls letters are 100% consistent w/Torah and Yeshua fulfilling it.
The problem that "the church" of today has is, not understanding the difference between oral torah and written torah. The EXACT THING both Yeshua and Paul were talking about!
Once a believers eyes are opened to Torah being BASIC principals and NOT a covenant specific thing. The (so called) "new testament" is so much easier to understand. And doubly so for Paul who was likely the most qualified of all the pharisees to be converted to the truth of Yeshua being the messiah
Shabbat shalom.
@@truthnottradition7 You have no proof that Paul simply taught against oral Torah. Paul’s disciples claimed that he taught against Torah, period. The church is a reflection of Paul’s teachings and his missionary journeys. He traveled around teaching against the Law. If Paul was teaching these gentiles not to follow ORAL Torah, that makes zero sense. Wouldn’t it make more sense for Paul to write letters teaching them how to follow written Torah? Where are his instructions on how to follow written Torah. Where does he teach gentiles that they need to be circumcised when they convert? Where does he teach gentiles that they are NOT allowed to eat food sacrificed to idols? Gentiles never followed ANY Torah, much less having any knowledge about ORAL Torah. That is simply an excuse that people have made for Paul because they don’t want to throw him out of the Bible. It’s too scary to do that. The church was built on Paul, not Yeshua. The more you study Yeshua, you will discover that he taught oral Torah. And not only did he teach oral Torah, but he also taught man-made traditions from the Pharisees. He was a Pharisee. The simple fact that he was called “Rabbi” means that he was a Pharisee. No other sect did that. The term rabbi comes from the sect of the Pharisees. Yeshua taught his disciples to follow the teachings of the Pharisees of his day. Lusting after a woman (even looking at her little finger in lust) points to adultery of the heart…comes from the Pharisees. The idea of “returning to the garden” and that Moses gave divorce only because of the hardness of the heart, comes from Pharisees. The idea of summing up the Torah in two things…loving God and loving others…comes from the Pharisees. The idea of getting a fallen goat out of a well on Shabbat comes from the Pharisees…This comment of Yeshua’s was directed to their understanding that the Dead Sea scroll community would NEVER ever remove a fallen animal in a well on Shabbat. These were known ideas to the people of his time. The idea of being “born again” comes from the Pharisees, it’s not even in oral torah, it’s simply man’s tradition. The Jews still teach this concept today. The idea of “casting out demons” is pharisaic, from tradition, and casting out demons IS NOT IN TORAH. Yeshua had no issues with oral law or traditions. He either supported their interpretations or he disagreed and had his own interpretations of Torah. The Jews have been arguing about HOW to keep Torah since they left Mt. Sinai. You can’t separate Yeshua from his people nor his customs. He was a Jew, and it’s just what Jews do. They passionately argue about Torah because they love Hashem and they love his Torah, so the extra effort to study is worth it to get it correct. They argue about HOW to keep it, but Paul’s followers argued about about NOT keeping it. God gave His laws, and it’s up to the people who he appointed to interpret it. For instance, if God gave the death penalty for breaking Shabbat, that’s pretty severe, so we must be explicit about what is breaking Shabbat. If God said to slaughter meat in the manner that He showed us, well, how do we know the manner to slaughter it because it’s not written in Torah? Although we no longer have a high court, we still do the best we can until it is restored. Was Yeshua from Hashem? Yes, I do believe he was. Was Yeshua an anointed one? Yes, I do believe he was. Was Paul from God? Yes, I do believe Paul was sent to be the test. Paul fulfilled Hashem’s promise to TEST his people. God is refining his people through the fire of the church and through Islam. Islam began because they knew Paul was false…then Muhammad came along and had more visions in the wilderness JUST LIKE PAUL, JUST LIKE JOSEPH SMITH. Yeshua said do NOT believe anyone who came from the wilderness representing him, because he wasn’t going to return until it was the end.
@@karenp.2316. It was a contrary message to what Yeshua and his apostles taught, and that’s why Paul had to defend himself and his message about what happened in the wilderness. The problem is that even in the time of the early “church,” Paul wanted to win people for his gospel. He made a distinction between his gospel and the gospel of those from James. James and Yeshua had the same gospel. Yeshua and the prophets before him had the same gospel. But Paul had a different gospel. Paul wrote multiple times, I’m not lying! He rebuked people for following the “so-called pillars…the apostles (James, Peter, John.) He defended his apostleship, because he wasn’t one of the 12, he’d never met Yeshua, and Paul knew his gospel was different from what they knew to be true. Paul wrote that he wasn’t given a letter of authority from the apostles to teach his teachings, but he didn’t care. Speaking of James, Peter, and John…Paul said, “What they are means NOTHING to me.” He wrote horrible things about Peter to the gentiles, making Peter look bad. Gentiles didn’t know why Jews couldn’t eat with gentiles, so Paul made Peter look bad. Paul gave permission to eat food that had been sacrificed to idols! This was the grave sin of Balaam and Balak spoken about in Revelation 2:14 (from numbers 25:1). NOBODY can eat food sacrificed to idols! There should’ve not even been pagan temples in the Holy Land! Yet, Paul claimed it was allowed to eat this as long as your conscience is clear…whatever does that mean??? No graven images! Of course they’re not real! They are forbidden! This is an example of the serpent in the garden…God commanded Adam what NOT to eat, but Satan said, now did God reeeeeaally say that? Paul is the stumbling block, that’s why his letters are so confusing. Hashem isn’t the author of concussion. The tribe of Benjamin was prophesied to be a ravenous wolf. Paul bragged about being from the tribe of Benjamin. What did Jesus say? Beware of those who look like sheep but are inwardly ravenous wolves! This I have against you, those who claim to be Jews but ARE NOT (Rev 2:9 & 3:9)! Search the early writings about Paul. There was great reason why he was rejected. They said he wasn’t even circumcised! Paul was a Roman citizen. The Herodians weren’t really Jews and were hostile toward the Jews. Josephus wrote that “Saulus” was a “kinsman of Agrippa”…this would be Herod Agrippa. Why does Paul call Herodion “my kinsman”? And to the ones in Ephesus (Rev 2:1-3) who endured and persevered, they were admonished and praised because they could not tolerate evil men. They were praised for TESTING those evil men who called themselves apostles, but were not. Paul was a self-appointed apostle. He wrote that all those in Asia rejected him… We’ve been presented “tares and wheat.” The wheat is the true bread of God, and the tares are the falsehoods. Those who refuse to obey the word of God, the seed has fallen on stony ground. God hardened pharoah’s heart because he refused to obey His word given by Moses. Paul’s writings are full of mixed seed. We don’t mix the holy with the profane. Whether Paul intentionally wrote confusingly, or his letters were forged, we may never know, but he has don’t nothing but led people in the path of lawlessness ever since the church began. He wrote so firmly that his disciples follow him, rather than those from James and Peter. Obedience leads to salvation. Works of the flesh is the fruit of a circumcised heart. Paul sought to kill, steal, and destroy the works of Yeshua. Paul isn’t your savior. So why even argue about him? He isn’t anyone’s messiah.
Paul's words were absolutely clear, in Rom. 2:13, Rom. 3:31, 1 Cor. 7:19, and Acts 24:14. Like Peter said in his epistles, wicked and ignorant ppl distort Paul's words to mean something else entirely. Everything Paul taught was just as clear as everything Christ preached.
i don't care about what Paul Said My goal is to obey God not Paul and God Said he didnt't abolished the law that is all we need, we follow God not Paul
I think you are putting words to Paul and his position to the Law.
From the very beginning you conflate Jewish believers in Jesus and Gentile believers in Jesus by just saying “believers”.
The scriptures make a clear distinction.
Additionally, to use Andy Stanley and what he teaches about the old testament is to choose an outlier from the mainstream to build your argument.
Much of the church has rejected the progressive teachings of Stanley.
The assertion that the law of God and the law of Moses are the same thing lacks foundation and is in fact disproved by Yeshua when He claims God allowed Moses to divorce, and when He identifies murder and adultery to be possible without committing the actions. The law of God is far stricter than the law of Moses. This is scripturally supported. And is present prophetically in the old testament in presenting the need for a new covenant.
@@charlesrosenbury231 no, the Law of Moses teaches us not to hate our brother in our heart, this is spiritual murder. See Lev 19:17 kjv
Moses allowed the uncircumcised of heart to get a divorce...Yeshua said Moses gave them divorce bcuz of the hardness of their hearts. The righteous Israelites did not get divorced. It is the same today. God is going to judge and condemn all whose hearts are hard.
TH-cam Martin Zender Law came in to make people sin more.
4Therefore, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we lived according to the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, bearing fruit for death. 6But now, having died to what bound us, we have been released from the law, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. (Romans 7:4-6)
False teachers, you included will face an angry God on judgment day. Repent.
Christ did not eat with sinners, he ate with sinners who had confessed their guilt and repented and he rejected those who believed that they did not need forgiveness because of their outward appearance of godliness. So, the true sinners were the scribes and pharisees who never admitted their guilt. These folks Christ rejected and still rejects all who deny that they have sinned.
Not being beholden to any law is very attractive to most people. Telling people they can do as they want to without feeling guilty is what creates a mega-church.
Reading Acts 21 in isolation makes it look as if Paul was indeed believing in and observing all Jewish laws. But his own words in 1 Cor 9:20-23 tells another story. Here Paul describes his sales tactics--tell the sucker what he wants to hear to make a sale. His advice is much the same as found in Victor Lustig's (the man who 'sold' the Eiffel Tower twice) Ten Commandments. Paul gives his reasons in verse 23: _I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings._
One should take all relevant evidence into account before deciding. 1 Cor 9:20-23 tells us not to take Acts 21 at face value. What you do is cherry-picking, which is a form of dishonest reasoning.
Dishonesty in religion is extremely common, if not the norm.
Reading 1 Corinthians 9 in isolation gives you that false impression, but by Paul’s own word, he did indeed obey God’s law (Acts 24:14, Acts 26: 22-23, Romans 7:12, Romans 7:22, Romans 7:25). The verses you quoted are three sentences in the midst of a letter. These words were not written in a vacuum. You cannot simply strip it from its context and apply it anywhere you please. The previous chapter and the chapter that follows provide insight into what Paul was saying here.
In the previous chapter, 1 Corinthians 8, Paul was speaking of being a stumbling block for believers in Christ in regard to matters of conscience, specifically food offered to idols. This chapter, chapter 9, was just Paul giving examples of how he lived this out. Though he had the right to eat and drink (1 Corinthians 9:3), get married (1 Corinthians 9:5), get paid (1 Corinthians 9: 6-18), and other things, he laid these freedoms down so that he wouldn’t be a stumbling block (1 Corinthians 9:12). Though we are free from man made rules and opinions, Paul chose to obey them in the presence of those who observe them so that he could reach them (1 Corinthians 8:13, 1 Corinthians 9:19, 1 Corinthians 9: 22-23, 1 Corinthians 10: 29-33). To the Jews, he acted like a Jew. Probably fasting on certain days. To those under The Law, he acted like those under The Law. To those who were outside The Law, he acted like them. Probably more lax in his dress and in his speech.
Then, in the very next chapter, Paul continues about how we are not to be stumbling blocks in regard to matters of conscience, food offered to idols specifically.
@@NANA-fh6we 1 Cor 9:19 - 23 is a standalone declaration of Paul's modus operandi and his reason for doing so. In essence, he said he _'became'_ like his intended target to win the target for the gospel. Obviously, he didn't change his beliefs and lifestyle possibly several times a day. That means he just pretended. This is very similar to two of Victor Lustig's Ten Commandments: _Wait for the other person to reveal any political opinions, then agree with them,_ and, _let the other person reveal religious views, then have the same ones._
If Paul in some cases deviated from his playbook it doesn't mean he had totally abandoned his playbook, unless he said so or consistently changed his modus operandi.
You're reading your own opinion into the Bible. Luckily for you, the Bible is often unclear. I mean, there are more than 30,000 Christian denominations. Even if it were only 3,000 or 300, that's still a lot claiming their beliefs are based on the same book. Obfuscation is your big friend.
You come from a background that values speculation and baseless ideas--the arts and humanities. Where I come from, wrong ideas have consequences, often terrible ones, mostly sooner rather than later. And it's always easy to identify the person who made the mistake.
10:24 Claiming Paul was a DECEIVER. If Paul was a deceiver, then his entire ministry is a fraud.
Is that what these people are saying and trying to prove?
It's unfortunate that this man's teachings are not gospel centered. Read Acts with pencil in hand and count the times Luke uses words like believe, gospel (good news), saved, salvation, preached Jesus or Christ. It's all about Jesus not my law-keeping Acts 15:10. The whole mosaic law was after the promise to Abraham and written to lead us to Christ (Gal 3:24). If we are to rely on our keeping the law (Gal 3:10), we are cursed. We do not abandon the moral law, but by the Holy Spirit, and love for God we can now love it though our best intentions are wrought with imperfections. Ultimately we rely on Jesus who did keep the law perfectly and for believers, His righteousness is transferred to us! This is the good news, the gospel!
No. Paul did not teach against the Law of Moses. He explained the fullness of the Law was Christ. The Commandments of God are spiritual.
The children of Israel were carnal. Jesus makes us spiritual. Paul said in Ephesians that this grace was hid from man. From ages to ages, but revealed in Christ. Under the Law there was no salvation. No remission of sins. The Law made nothing perfect, but, the bringing in of a better hope did. The Levitical priesthood was superseded by Jesus priesthood, after the order of Melchizect, not Aaron's. Paul's letters explained the Old Testament to both Jew and Gentile alike. God hid these things from man. But, that's where prophesy comes in.
In God's mind, the Law was always spiritual. But man is carnal. The Law could not make you spiritual. But, in Romans 8:2; For the Law of life of liberty in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Moses law brought death. Jesus law, the gospel brought us life.
The Law was a shadow of good things to come. It was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. We don't keep the Law of Moses. Christ excelled Moses. Moses wrote of Christ. Moses is the Lawgiver, but Christ gives us grace.
We keep the ten commandments, but we don't need the Law. In respects of Aaron's priesthood. Christ is our high priest.
Paul's action was a show for the public - it was like a man who showed up with his wife and demonstrated his affection for his wife and family to silence the rumor he had a mistress. Jerusalem believers were fooled, but we cannot be fooled by it because we have the advantage of reading all his epistles. He was indeed committing adultery, planning to marry his mistress. Read Colossians 2:16, 1 Timothy 4:4-5, 1 Cor 10:25, 30. Galatians 5:2, 12, and so forth. Paul set up a new religion for Gentiles and his epistles were the main reason why Christians are the way they are now - uncircumcised, devouring unclean food, worshipping on Sundays. Of course, according to the Bible, early Christians followed God's law. God's people follow God's word, Paul's people follow Paul's word.
Read 2 Peter 3:16...
119 Ministries has teachings on every one of the verses you have quoted...
They ALL support people following GOD's Law...
The amin reason why "Christians" are the way they are right now is outlined in 3 John 1:9...
That wsa the beginning of the Roman Catholic "Church"...
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Please remember that the New Testament (NT) had not been considered part of the Scriptures until the Protestants proclaimed it so, which was not the right thing to do. Even in the Roman Catholic Church, which has held Paul in the highest regard, I was told that the NT was not part of the Scriptures but the most valuable references while I attended the church in the 1980s. That was one thing they taught correctly.
A collection by paganized Roman Catholics cannot make a book part of the Scriptures, nor can the proclamation of Gentile leaders at a much later time. The Scriptures refer to the Old Testament, which Jesus and His immediate disciples called the Scriptures. It is false to say Paul taught Gentiles to live according to God’s law because he did not. The explanations by 119 Ministries on defending Paul are procrustean and undermine their otherwise wonderful work.
Why can't they simply say that when there is a discrepancy between the Scriptures and Paul’s epistles, we should follow the Scriptures? Such a position would probably be more viable if we were to find in the future that Paul’s epistles were corrupted by Roman bishops who wanted to create a unifying Roman religion inclusive of all pagans from different religions.
Fathers/mothers day is pagan.
Get over yourself lol 😜
@@lavieenrose5954 If you do not believe that then you are deceived and do not know your bible.
Paul shaved his head for he had a (Pharisee) vow...
The Nazarite Vow does not come from "Pharisee's"...
Paul took a Nazarite vow and had to shave his head when he broke it...
HOW did he break his vow?
He made himself "unclean" when he placed his body onto a young man's dead body... (Acts 20:9)
@@bawbjusbawb6471 U shave ur head for a Nazarite vow only at the temple
@@nunyabiz5880
Numbers 6:9 And if any man die very suddenly by him, and he hath defiled the head of his consecration; then he shall shave his head in the day of his cleansing, on the seventh day shall he shave it.
Special Circumstances: If a Nazirite accidentally comes into contact with a dead body, they must shave their head, bring offerings, and restart the period of their vow. This process ensures that their time of dedication is wholly consecrated.
Paul was in the Diaspora and unable to get to the Temple within 7 days...
But if you be led of the Spirit ye are not under the law. Learn rightly dividing and dispensations please. Some think themselves Jews but are not.
Saul (Benjamite (wolf), demon, persecuting prophets of YHWH, manipulator of words) was the final test from Elohim.
A final test? How so? What you saw insinuating is God allowed someone to Deceive people under the guise that the word of Paul is his word. What you are saying makes the Lord of Hosts a deceiver which he most certainly is not.
So show me in the Old testament where Yah said he would send someone to deceive people in this way. It most certainly is not supported by any scripture.
@@WalkerJani
"So show me in the Old testament where Yah said he would send someone to deceive people in this way. It most certainly is not supported by any scripture."
1 Kings 22:21 through 23 - 21Then a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD, and said, ‘I will entice him.’ ‘By what means?’ asked the LORD. 22And he replied, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets.’ ‘You will surely entice him and prevail,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.’ 23So you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours, and the LORD has pronounced disaster against you.”…
Because people don't heed the warning that Peter gave us about Paul's Writings in:
2 Peter 3:15 through 17 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS and fall from your secure standing.
Paul was called a "BROTHER" by Peter...
And ignorant and unstable people twist what Paul wrote as they have done the rest of the Scriptures...
2 Chronicles 18:21 - 21And he replied, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets.’ ‘You will surely entice him and prevail,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 through 11 - 9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie,
It doesn't matter who says what in the Bible...
If people WANT to be "Lawless", they will twist anyone's words...
Paul just happens to be the author of choice because as Peter stated, "He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand,"
Acts 9:15 - “Go!” said the Lord. “ This man is My chosen instrument to carry My name before the Gentiles and their kings, and before the people of Israel.
Folks should REALLY watch what they say about Paul, ESPECIALLY since the Messiah Himself CHOSE Paul to bring the Gospel to the Gentiles and Kings...
2 Peter 3:15-17 "And consider the long-suffering of YAHWEH to be our redemption, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which some things are hard to understand, *which those that are ignorant and unstable pervert* their meaning, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore beloved, since you know these things beforehand, guard yourself, lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness."
I think he was the perfect convert who knew oral torah and could help believers see the difference between Gods instructions and mans traditions.
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Paul didn't "convert"...
None of the Apostles "converted" either...
"Conversion" is a Roman Catholic term...
Heathens and Pagans can "convert" to Christianity...
Paul came to the realization that he had met with with prophecy revealed in Messiah Yeshua and he repented...
Very selectively biased teaching, very pro law. Most hate the teaching of grace. Most had abandoned Paul by the end of his career. The law was not given to the nations Romans 2:14. The law came in by the way, that the offense should be increasing. Ouch, for all you lovers of law, you lawyers. Sin gets an incentive from law Romans 7:8. Again, Ouch. Really all of Chapter 7. Most who hate grace and love law don't avoid these verses.
DO avoid these verses
The law came in by the way, that the offense should be increasing. Roman's 5:20. The flesh is not able to do the law of God. Romans 8:8.
Look at these false doctrine by these false teachers trying to protect this false apostle you know they don’t listen to the Holy Spirit and know him not Paul is false and if you listen to these you Will Be In Hell With Them
2 Peter 3:15 through 17 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS and fall from your secure standing.
Nuf said...