Overall looks to be a good all rounder drive but most consumers will find it hard to justify the $20+k premium over the Avante, Ceratos, Mazda3, or Altis.
Not quite $20+k premium - Do consider that some of these cars u have indicate are VES A so the ‘lower pricing’ that you see is actually money coming out from you eventually. The ARF for Civic ($28152) and Avante ($7198).
This civic looks 2 gens backwards……. even at launch there’s so much divided opinions, good luck to Honda if they gonna let this 11th gen sit for afew more years, I hope they survive long enough till then to come up with something fierce and aggressive looking that set people’s heart racing when they see a civic approaching.
the trend in JDM market was moving towards more family-oriented designs and priority. with the high petrol cost, there's lesser and lesser needs for street racing, and people are moving towards economy and comfort Honda sees this trend, VTEC was ever moved from performance to economy focused. Thus, in the last two designs, the emphasis on being a streetcar grew on their design. Just look at the jazz, we can't tell its previous 3 gens were doing track racing at all. Just hope Honda will do better next with Toyota doing a much better job in this regard.
Nobody will buy this car until the price drop to $100k values. Just like when new Mazda 3 first came out. Their prices were way above the $100k range. Nobody bought. Till $90-100k then we start seeing the car more on the roads. Same fate with this Honda. Just wait for Kah Motor to have no choice but lower the price.
Authorised dealers always use their "authorised" name tag to sell cars with substandard grade at premium price, when I can get the highest spec car at a similar or better price from PI
It's an Accord! Lol. The previous ver look more 'Civic' than this. Seriously, Honda shld put more effort in the design, learn from your competitors please. Be more futuristic.
The equipment lose out to forte and avante too. I'm not a fan of avante design, forte is a facelift but the equipment on the top specs better even Mazda 3. Mazda 3 looks good but the rear is tighter. The safety features has speed operating limit where the Koreans can do even start stop using the ACC.
Overpriced and lack of features.. LOLZ. what a rip off.. comment to 8:03: It is funny when Desmond said that "move towards turbo engine elevates the sense of drive". Adding a 4 miserable BHP can elevate the drive? *scratch head*
A Honda will always be a Honda. As such, Kah Motors should not try to push their luck and price it like a low end conti. How is a japanese car worth 133k? It just doesn’t make sense when there so many equivalent models out there.
Won't buy....133k and no sunroof, no electric seat, no ventilated seats, 16in rims, halogen headlamps...ugly and that detuned engine is hard to justify the price
Sgcarmart should consider including an acceleration test in their reviews. Rather than use subjective terms like acceleration thrust. Like how foreign car review does. With sport mode and without. At least some real world figures would be useful for us to consider rather than vague subjective terms.
133k is not the worst thing. Went to kah ubi today to see the actual new civic and there is no white led headlights. Orange head lights are looking quite outdated for 2021.
@@dkhsjapful saw c&c roadshow at Tampines Century Square today displayed the new facelift kia cerato. 102k. Better looking then the new civic. No sure the interior becos display only cannot touch.
My god, it look a little bit hideous out of the factory compared with Civic 10th gen. There’s no distinctive difference between Accord in terms of the design wise. I don’t see this Civic 11th Gen will be able to top off the Civic 10th Gen.
Last time this price can buy civic 1.5 turbo with more hp and torque. $125k for Cat A is too ex. Price bracket weird. Top up a bit more can get conti models already. This model won’t sell. The design is boring and not identifiable as the old one. Gd luck cleaning those honeycomb vents. Quickly go buy the old one while stocks last.
Kah Motor used to sell both the 1.5t (cat B) and 1.6na (cat A) 10th-gen Civic. The 1.5t cost 20-30k more than the 1.6na. KM discontinued the 1.5t after a short few years and they are left with only 1.6na for sale before the launch of this new 11-gen Civic. Was told by the sales staff that the 1.6na outsold 1.5t for almost 8:2. I guess that’s true as most Civic 10-gens on the road are mostly halogen bulbs with IVTEC badge on the rear. This could explain why KM didn’t launch a cat B version of the new 11-gen
Was looking forward to the All New Civic with “Touring” trim specifications until the disappointing specifications revealed at Kah Motor’s virtual launch. What’s with the detuned Civic 127 bhp instead of 180 bhp just to fit into the Cat A COE segment. Doesn’t make any sense at all to Civic enthusiasts. Pricing aside, when compared with the Touring-equivalent specifications in overseas markets, the lack of sunroof, Honda Sensing, LED headlamps, full digital cockpit display, electric front seats, and 18 inch wheels are just turn-offs. Nuff said. It is a “Won’t Buy” for me.
Design has regressed. Looks like an impreza at the back and the safety features are nothing to shout about as other cars like avante and mazda 3 have. Plus is it thai made
the interior of 11th gen is better. looks wise subjective... hate the lip and how the bonnet connects to the front. power is shit. and it is not detuned, salesperson at KM told me it's a completely different engine so dont think of buying and forgoing the warranty and tuning it. the CVT still noisy AF in a bad way. the only for sure improvement in this video is the presenter, compare to his first couple of videos.
The price tag of S$170K+ is madness. imagine in Malaysia this spec which is known as V spec which is the 3rd highest spec only cost low RM150k. The highest spec which is the RS which comes with full body kit only cost low RM160k. There is another HEV version which cost RM170k. Both not available in SG. No wonder rarely see this on the road because is just doesnt make sense and make u feel stupid...if can afford paying such price, just buy a conti here..or might as well buy in Msia and bring it for a spin in Sepang because such price can buy a Type R in Msia + another regular Civic FE
"New" instrument cluster looks 15 years old. "New" design looks "like a 1980 Accord" from the front. "New" but didn't evolve but went back to the 120Y era.
The new jazz and new civic both looks like old classic design instead of executive or futuristic. And seriously 1.5turbo, 10s? Like moving backward tgoether with Audi.
I looked at the spec-sheet and, holy f**king $h1t: Halogen headlights, only single-zone airconditioning? Even Malaysian-spec and Indonesia-spec model have better standard equipment. In any case, I heard that Honda Singapore - Kah Motor is planning to launch the Hybrid variant in Singapore in 2023. Imho, they need to introduce Hybrid RS variant (similar to Malaysia market).
These are boring Honda days. Civic has not grown up, its gotten old. Looks like it was designed by a lab technician. But to the Ignorant Singapore car buyer Honda could not do any wrong. Hear that....he says he likes it. Regardless , it's a Honda....I'll buy it no matter how bad it is.
Honda is digging their own grave with the 11th gen civic. It’s a true old man’s car. I wouldn’t even pay half the price for this disgrace. 0% aggressiveness on the roads……. 10th gen is still the pinnacle of civics. What a waste…..
The tenth generation Civic was introduced in 2016 in the United States, not 2015. Oops!! Plus I actually like the more chrome on the older Civics front ends.
ppl are still queing up to buy FC. Honda should just update with more goodies with reduced prices. Go and check every dealer offices around msia.. waiting period stretches to least 6 months. the FC design is ahead of its time while the FE looks lost amidst the competition. bad decision Honda. good luck!
That is the ugliest civic ever! It’s like, the front end, the side profile, and rear end were designed by three different teams, and then they piled them altogether. The frankenstein civic. That’s it!
Why the comments on the civic so savage here and on the sgcarmart fb page? I think it looks ok, like the accord. Other than the price, seems like a decent car. Seems to me people who are complaining abt it's looks it's because u prefer the fd2 looks? Just trying to understand
I like Desmond. But can we have a change of location? This place is getting known as the sgcarmart location. Not sure if that's completely a good thing. Let's change location! Somewhere scenic please. Including the rolling shots.
@@yongkang83 Perhaps......but afaik, under the Singapore Vehicle Emission Scheme, a Civic Hybrid would not be too far from the regular non-hybrid Civic. Also, Civic Hybrid saloon vehicles are also Made in Thailand so Honda SG - Kah Motor can also get them there. Less costs compared to the Japan CBU cars that Honda SG is getting from Japan.
@@yongkang83 Let's see how it will fare against Toyota Corolla Altis Hybrid. But yeah, I heard that they plan to bring Civic Hybrid to Singapore starting January 2023. But for that trim, I recommend they go all-out. They can make it wear the RS Badge (like what they do in Thailand and Malaysia)
Overall looks to be a good all rounder drive but most consumers will find it hard to justify the $20+k premium over the Avante, Ceratos, Mazda3, or Altis.
Not quite $20+k premium - Do consider that some of these cars u have indicate are VES A so the ‘lower pricing’ that you see is actually money coming out from you eventually. The ARF for Civic ($28152) and Avante ($7198).
I will personally give Honda a miss this season. Don’t know what happened to the design.
The design is ok to me. Price a bit hard to swallow only
This civic looks 2 gens backwards……. even at launch there’s so much divided opinions, good luck to Honda if they gonna let this 11th gen sit for afew more years, I hope they survive long enough till then to come up with something fierce and aggressive looking that set people’s heart racing when they see a civic approaching.
the trend in JDM market was moving towards more family-oriented designs and priority. with the high petrol cost, there's lesser and lesser needs for street racing, and people are moving towards economy and comfort
Honda sees this trend, VTEC was ever moved from performance to economy focused. Thus, in the last two designs, the emphasis on being a streetcar grew on their design.
Just look at the jazz, we can't tell its previous 3 gens were doing track racing at all. Just hope Honda will do better next with Toyota doing a much better job in this regard.
Is Kah Motor blind, who will buy something with halogens in 2021.
Nobody will buy this car until the price drop to $100k values. Just like when new Mazda 3 first came out. Their prices were way above the $100k range. Nobody bought. Till $90-100k then we start seeing the car more on the roads. Same fate with this Honda. Just wait for Kah Motor to have no choice but lower the price.
even Honda City comes with led lights, Civic??
Exactly is rather insulting to the customer giving us halogens in 2023!
Long awaited
Authorised dealers always use their "authorised" name tag to sell cars with substandard grade at premium price, when I can get the highest spec car at a similar or better price from PI
Can u do a review on honda jade 1.5 rs til now not much review yet in TH-cam
Even my 3rd gen Jazz is more powerful. 129bhp and can hit 9.6s in its century sprint.
That's because Jazz is lighter with direct injection engine.
Uncle mini accord at the very best
Disappointed. At that price point, it does not even come with full digital display for the driver....
old civic still the best
1.5 turbo with only 127hp? Still prefer the ex prawn noodle model.
looks so much like the current gen accord lol
Same engine so can tune up
It's an Accord! Lol. The previous ver look more 'Civic' than this. Seriously, Honda shld put more effort in the design, learn from your competitors please. Be more futuristic.
20k premium. good luck justifying that price
Won’t buy. Ugly crushed bonnet flat nose look. It’s design incomparable to Avante, Kia or Toyotas. Cost more $ some more.
The equipment lose out to forte and avante too. I'm not a fan of avante design, forte is a facelift but the equipment on the top specs better even Mazda 3. Mazda 3 looks good but the rear is tighter. The safety features has speed operating limit where the Koreans can do even start stop using the ACC.
Thailand made, nahz
Slow
Old civic is def way better than this old ugly plain ass looking car
Overpriced and lack of features.. LOLZ. what a rip off.. comment to 8:03: It is funny when Desmond said that "move towards turbo engine elevates the sense of drive". Adding a 4 miserable BHP can elevate the drive? *scratch head*
A Honda will always be a Honda. As such, Kah Motors should not try to push their luck and price it like a low end conti. How is a japanese car worth 133k? It just doesn’t make sense when there so many equivalent models out there.
Our COE priced it or Kah Motor?
i still prefer the previous civic looks
Won't buy....133k and no sunroof, no electric seat, no ventilated seats, 16in rims, halogen headlamps...ugly and that detuned engine is hard to justify the price
This new Civic looks older than the outgoing model. If that’s even possible…
this 1.5T - 127bhp
previous Jazz 1.5 NA - 129bhp
the turbo do what?
Sgcarmart should consider including an acceleration test in their reviews. Rather than use subjective terms like acceleration thrust. Like how foreign car review does. With sport mode and without. At least some real world figures would be useful for us to consider rather than vague subjective terms.
Where can acceleration test be conducted in singapore?
@@DemocraticInternetBrigade don't need to exceed speed limit. 0 to 50 can liao 😂
133k is not the worst thing. Went to kah ubi today to see the actual new civic and there is no white led headlights. Orange head lights are looking quite outdated for 2021.
even Honda City has nice white led lights, what a joke
@@dkhsjapful saw c&c roadshow at Tampines Century Square today displayed the new facelift kia cerato. 102k. Better looking then the new civic. No sure the interior becos display only cannot touch.
My god, it look a little bit hideous out of the factory compared with Civic 10th gen. There’s no distinctive difference between Accord in terms of the design wise.
I don’t see this Civic 11th Gen will be able to top off the Civic 10th Gen.
tbh i prefer the previous gen 😂 it looks more prettier
Went to Leng Kee Kah Motor to test drive . Couldn't justify the price point. Bought a Mazda 3 instead and am happy with the tech n price.
Sup Jon cause you the only one who replies to comment.
Where your glc?
Last time this price can buy civic 1.5 turbo with more hp and torque. $125k for Cat A is too ex. Price bracket weird. Top up a bit more can get conti models already. This model won’t sell. The design is boring and not identifiable as the old one. Gd luck cleaning those honeycomb vents. Quickly go buy the old one while stocks last.
Or just pay a bit more to get the new Camry hybrid. D segment for the price, more features, space, refinement, power and torque.
indeed i rather get a conti veh. KAH motor really had weird pricing...130k+ I can go get a camry hybrid from PIs
Kah Motor used to sell both the 1.5t (cat B) and 1.6na (cat A) 10th-gen Civic. The 1.5t cost 20-30k more than the 1.6na.
KM discontinued the 1.5t after a short few years and they are left with only 1.6na for sale before the launch of this new 11-gen Civic. Was told by the sales staff that the 1.6na outsold 1.5t for almost 8:2. I guess that’s true as most Civic 10-gens on the road are mostly halogen bulbs with IVTEC badge on the rear. This could explain why KM didn’t launch a cat B version of the new 11-gen
I prefer CAT A Civic than CAT B
You know the car is ugly when the reviewer spends less than 10 seconds talking about the design 😂
Was looking forward to the All New Civic with “Touring” trim specifications until the disappointing specifications revealed at Kah Motor’s virtual launch. What’s with the detuned Civic 127 bhp instead of 180 bhp just to fit into the Cat A COE segment. Doesn’t make any sense at all to Civic enthusiasts. Pricing aside, when compared with the Touring-equivalent specifications in overseas markets, the lack of sunroof, Honda Sensing, LED headlamps, full digital cockpit display, electric front seats, and 18 inch wheels are just turn-offs. Nuff said. It is a “Won’t Buy” for me.
And they actually had the audacity to price it 20k+ more than their rivals. What were they thinking?
Design has regressed. Looks like an impreza at the back and the safety features are nothing to shout about as other cars like avante and mazda 3 have. Plus is it thai made
No amount of marketing can get people to part with 133k for a civic 🤣
Could you please review the Honda ZR-V
the interior of 11th gen is better. looks wise subjective... hate the lip and how the bonnet connects to the front. power is shit. and it is not detuned, salesperson at KM told me it's a completely different engine so dont think of buying and forgoing the warranty and tuning it. the CVT still noisy AF in a bad way. the only for sure improvement in this video is the presenter, compare to his first couple of videos.
The price tag of S$170K+ is madness. imagine in Malaysia this spec which is known as V spec which is the 3rd highest spec only cost low RM150k. The highest spec which is the RS which comes with full body kit only cost low RM160k. There is another HEV version which cost RM170k. Both not available in SG. No wonder rarely see this on the road because is just doesnt make sense and make u feel stupid...if can afford paying such price, just buy a conti here..or might as well buy in Msia and bring it for a spin in Sepang because such price can buy a Type R in Msia + another regular Civic FE
Previous gen look so much better. This exterior look like 90s car. So boxy. Disappointment. Interior look good though.
"New" instrument cluster looks 15 years old.
"New" design looks "like a 1980 Accord" from the front.
"New" but didn't evolve but went back to the 120Y era.
good review. The exterior design of this new Civic is a disappointment. It looks too anonymous unfortunately, compared to similarly priced cars.
I owned the 2016 1.5T. By doing so Kah Motor immediately lose a customer
Unfortunately, the price tag compared to the others like Mazda 3 and Hyundai Avante on the market makes it a no for me.
The front looks like it has a luohan fish bump
Why didn't Kah offer two models, with the 180hp one being Cat B? 🤔
The new jazz and new civic both looks like old classic design instead of executive or futuristic. And seriously 1.5turbo, 10s? Like moving backward tgoether with Audi.
Audi looks good leh. The electric range
Correction for the bhp, not 127 but 172bhp beng
I looked at the spec-sheet and, holy f**king $h1t:
Halogen headlights, only single-zone airconditioning?
Even Malaysian-spec and Indonesia-spec model have better standard equipment.
In any case, I heard that Honda Singapore - Kah Motor is planning to launch the Hybrid variant in Singapore in 2023.
Imho, they need to introduce Hybrid RS variant (similar to Malaysia market).
These are boring Honda days. Civic has not grown up, its gotten old. Looks like it was designed by a lab technician. But to the Ignorant Singapore car buyer Honda could not do any wrong. Hear that....he says he likes it. Regardless , it's a Honda....I'll buy it no matter how bad it is.
Honda is digging their own grave with the 11th gen civic. It’s a true old man’s car. I wouldn’t even pay half the price for this disgrace. 0% aggressiveness on the roads……. 10th gen is still the pinnacle of civics. What a waste…..
The tenth generation Civic was introduced in 2016 in the United States, not 2015. Oops!! Plus I actually like the more chrome on the older Civics front ends.
this honda civic is damn ugly and looks very old. The previous rendition still look much better with its futuristic backlights
awesome review! thanks Desmond!
Downgrade look
ppl are still queing up to buy FC. Honda should just update with more goodies with reduced prices. Go and check every dealer offices around msia.. waiting period stretches to least 6 months. the FC design is ahead of its time while the FE looks lost amidst the competition. bad decision Honda. good luck!
That is the ugliest civic ever! It’s like, the front end, the side profile, and rear end were designed by three different teams, and then they piled them altogether. The frankenstein civic. That’s it!
I am driving FC 1.5 Turbo.. I will never change to this civc.. if i were to change.. definitely is just type R if not hell NO. lol
Sorry… I don’t agree… Honda always creates alternate ugly models… the Honda “ketam” still rules… 🤭😊
Why the comments on the civic so savage here and on the sgcarmart fb page? I think it looks ok, like the accord. Other than the price, seems like a decent car. Seems to me people who are complaining abt it's looks it's because u prefer the fd2 looks? Just trying to understand
Im very lucky to have fc gen🤣
Hi good evening everybody l like sunroof car since l was young but my mum she drove a BMW 320 have a sunroof
does every state has different horse power reading? here in malaysia its around 183hp
Was waiting for it but with the price of 125k (now 133k) - will continue driving my 2010 8th gen FD..
No lost bro. Buy the new one will suffer 🤣 u must first convince your misses to accept the price first 😭
Tbh this civic looks like honda city.The previous civic design was much better
Don’t understand why Japanese insists hybrid car? Just remove away the Engine, than can sell like hot cake like Tesla😂
Few previous gen still look the best. The FDR2 series. After that the designs looks so ugly.
For this price and only offering halogen headlights . It’s downright insulting.
I find that the rear seat is disaster,too low and the cushion is too short,not supportive enuf.
Where is the nice location at the start of the video and car introduction?
just want to know which cvt gearbox is in this down tuned civic.
Thank God he didn't use the word "PREMIUM"!!!!!!!! 👍🏻
I like Desmond. But can we have a change of location? This place is getting known as the sgcarmart location. Not sure if that's completely a good thing. Let's change location! Somewhere scenic please. Including the rolling shots.
Somewhere scenic?...California perhaps
Hi good evening everybody but they did not come with sunroof
Sorry but the Avante wins hands down this time 👎
Ugly.. and the price cmi 🤦🏻♂️
Hey you got the horsepower all wrong🤦🏻
Are this design have type r?
Wah damn ugly this civic
10th gen is the best gen
Honda hayat onda 👍💯💯💯👑🇹🇷
nice video.
Would love to see the new e:hev model launch in sg soon.
This should be considered........especially given that Thailand and Malaysia have the Civic Hybrid now.
@@blackcyborg009 Price is a huge factor…
@@yongkang83 Perhaps......but afaik, under the Singapore Vehicle Emission Scheme, a Civic Hybrid would not be too far from the regular non-hybrid Civic.
Also, Civic Hybrid saloon vehicles are also Made in Thailand so Honda SG - Kah Motor can also get them there.
Less costs compared to the Japan CBU cars that Honda SG is getting from Japan.
@@blackcyborg009 some rumor priced is this car will be on 200k range… Let’s wait for the final price by Kah Motor.
@@yongkang83 Let's see how it will fare against Toyota Corolla Altis Hybrid.
But yeah, I heard that they plan to bring Civic Hybrid to Singapore starting January 2023.
But for that trim, I recommend they go all-out.
They can make it wear the RS Badge (like what they do in Thailand and Malaysia)
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