Recent studies show that the huge teeth were more a deterrent than an effective tool. Many skulls were found with broken off tooth. Anyway cats now are more agile and and probably more intelligent which may give them the advantage.
The smilodon lived with tigers but if they could beat a tiger could bring down the same prey that exists today. They somehow did not..the long canines would be inneffectual in a real fight..with which claws are used with cats.
Smilodon certainly didn't have more bite power than a tiger. In the documentary Prehistoric Hunters, they compared the bite force of Smilodon and the African lion, and the African lion had several times more power in its jaws. The smilodon's skull was not built for the force exerted by the lion when biting, and it would have been blown apart.
I think I watched that documentary too, they couldn’t bite down hard or shake their prey in their jaws. If they did their k9s would shatter. They also didn’t have any change of direction because of the stubbed tail.
There is a lot of speculation as to how the Sabre toothed cats, used their canines, and against which prey they may have been employed. It makes no sense that they would have been used on smaller prey, so we must assume that they had a design specifically for larger prey animals. Bite force isn't necessarily a determining factor in a fight, when one animal is more robust and muscular, in comparison to the other. A modern large cat may be able to bite harder, but they would be doing it with much smaller teeth. One stab by much larger teeth, is causing wounds that will lead to extensive blood loss and weakness in the prey animal. A Smilodon, would be much more powerful than a modern large cat. It would pin it, bite it once, and wait for it to bleed out!
The Smilodon didn't rely on a strong bite force. It fact it's weaker compared to today's big cats. It's weapons was it's immense forearms which subdues their prey. The teeth were used to puncture and cause tremendous blood lose. But the teeth has a weakness in that the side walls were fragile and weak. So it was very careful with it's bite.
Everything I've read about smilodon stated that the canines were fragile. The killing method was to rip open the throat. The forelimbs and shoulders were large enough to hold down larger prey. Large felines attack larger prey in a similar fashion by suffocation today right down to puma today!
@@markmccarty9793 I think they would have been aware how fragile their teeth were. I see a more defensive animal that act more timid and protective. As oppose to a tiger which such an aggressive animal. In a fight between them a tiger will just swipe and bite whatever part that presented itself.
@@alexeptopWell all of Paleontology is one giant Theory. Some can be proven but that’s very limited. Unless we were there to witness all of these events in history we will never know exactly how all these creatures and events actually were.
Siberian tiger had a much stronger bite, but Smilodon Populator would have been more powerful (overall). Smilodon populator was like a bear/lion fusion that was built for raw power, but not speed. They likely overpowed and wrestled their prey down, punctured the neck, then let them bleed out. This way they didnt damage their canines.
@@OGking831Its not.Are u dumb? THE WHOLE REASON SMILODONS REACH 436 KG IS BECAUSE OF THEIR ROBUST AND DENSE BONES AND INSANE AMOUNT OF MUSCLE MASS.THEIR FOREARMS ARE BUILT LIKE A BEAR.THEIR SHOULDERS ARE JACKED TOO
@@oliversperry9274 truly this does not mean that much. It's not like the other animal will just sit there and say bite me. In a real fight speed flexibility stamina agression and intelegence would determine the outcomes. Tigers, lions and jaguars take down crocodilians in the wild and the Caymans/crocks have way stronger bite force.
Smilodon (assuming we’re talking about the biggest of the 3 sub species) was larger than a Siberian Tiger. Infact it was about the largest feline that’s ever existed. However, what potentially swings this, are it’s enormous canines. While very useful at delivering a killer bite vs prey, they were practically useless against other apex predators. As a result of this, anything which could stand up to it and fight at close quarters, as a Siberian Tiger could, would have very good chance. That said, this is very hard to call and could certainly go either way.
I think you're right in the first instance. A smilodon would be very vulnerable. The Tiger is very, very fast and agile and would not be waiting for smilodon to open wide. Smilodon would have a major advantage though. If it got a hold of the tiger it would basically have it squeezed and locked up and would take all the time it needed to open wide. Pure brawn and strength. I think they got up to 1200 pounds but most were in the 800 to 1000 pound range for the biggest species.
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Fun fact: The largest wild tiger ever recorded was not a Siberian tiger, but a Bengal Tiger shot by a hunter in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh in the 60s. The tiger weighed whopping 390 kilograms. These days, wild Bengal Tigers tend to be larger than the Siberian Tigers because Siberian Tigers have shrunken in size due to loss of prey. In captivity, Siberian Tigers still outgrow Bengal Tigers.
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Smilodon certainly looks scary with those huge fangs, but I think they would have been more of a hindrance. They are too long for the opening of the jaw. It would have been a close call but I think the Siberian tiger would edge it...
Even before watching this, my money is on the ancient Siberian Tiger which still had its natural big size and strength. Smilodon canine isn't designed for combat, it quickly breaks against such an opponent as Siberian Tiger. Buh if the Smilodon in question is Fatalis, Siberian Tiger may lose.
Bruh u know sabers hunted way bigger prey with thicker skin such as wholly rhinos and giant ground sloths there teeth are not weak also they have stronger bite force than tiger tiger would lose to saber because saber has everything except run speed saber would win mid diff.
@@susman791 their canines are used to impale, that won't work on a Siberian Tiger that's a solo assassin. Remember that cave Lions at the time kill Smilodons. Buh at the same time, there are several subspecies of Smilodon, the Fatalis will kill a Siberian Tiger.
@@Catboycarls if it kills it kills lol I don't get what you're saying if the Smilidon bites the tiger the teeth work the same if sabers teeth can pierce the hide of wolly rhinos I'm sure it can pierce the tiger 😂also sabers are stronger than a tiger and where way bigger so saber wins lol
Pointing out mistakes: - First of all they aren't rivals, never were. Smilodon did not co-exist with any tiger. - Here you are comparing a population/subspecies against an entire genus. S. populator beats Siberian tiger. S. fatalis will be closer but confidently I'd say, fatalis will win. S. gracilis loses though. Here, you focused on fatalis. - Smilodon bite isn't as powerful as a tiger bite. The pressure is probably lower, and weaker canines. However it makes for a much deadlier bite with its knife-like fangs. - Siberian tigers are smaller than S. fatalis, weighing an average of 190-200 kgs, and the largest specimen was 270 kgs. (All reliable records). Meanwhile the Fatalis was ~220-230 kgs on average (species level? specimens although unwise to calculate average for long-gone animals). S. fatalis maxed over 300 kgs in reality, the 280 kgs has been surpassed now. Some going as far as 342 kgs although this I doubt. - Smilodon fatalis and populator, were bulkier than any pantherine.
The largest prehistoric wild cat the SIMILODON would win against the Siberian Tiger Due to its sheer size 💪and bite effectiveness The only thing Siberian tiger has is agility and speed when compared to the SIMILODON 🔥💥🔥
@Nickc710 The bite force of a siberian tiger is 1200 psi and that's the most it can reach and it's definitely suitable for preying on such modern animals but Smilodon back then used to hunt way bigger animals such as mammoth and wholly rhinos and it used to be way bigger than modern day animals so smilodon had to have way higher bite force than todays modern tigers so it would be obviously way higher than 1200 psi so smilodon clearly wins in terms of bite force and it would definitely kill a siberian tiger if they have to engage in a fight.
If I remember correctly Smilodon Populator averaged 400kg and was built more like a bear. More robust, compact and muscular. Better built for combat Saber tooth cat wins this
@@illyaedwards7188 Tigers also have the stronger bite force advantage too. Smilodons were only capable of clamping their Saberteeth down with 150 psi of bite force. While Tiger's are capable of exerting 1050psi of bite force biting down.
@@illyaedwards7188 Smilodons saberteeth were for more than just show. Their Saberteeth were still very strong with direct downward pressures. Smilodons used their Saberteeth like a pickaxe. Throwing their Saberteeth downwards with their very strong neck muscles. For puncturing flesh or the skull of their prey.
Smilodon Populator or Fatalis straight-up bodies Siberian Tigers. Fatalis was 900 pounds while Populator was even bigger at a full half-ton. Both Sabercats could fight adult mammoths in a group of 3. Even a pair of Tigers would rarely attack an Elephant. Sabercats also often attacked their prey with skull bites to pierce the eyes. Yes, they hunted humans. Indicating they knew how to identify weaknesses and how to exploit them. So, with equal intelligence and superior size and strength, there are no advantages left for the modern Tiger.
Also, how were people able to conclude that smilodon had a weak bite force? Last time i checked, mammals bite with their bottom jaw and not the upper one. Also Smilodon had bones that were much more dense than any cat today, not to mention it was also the most muscular cat to ever live, jaw muscles included.
Yeah I doubt the smiladons bite would have been very powerful. Got to rember those teeth would break easily. I don't think they would kill with a typical bit anyways, from what I've heard they would pin the prey down and stab down with the teeth. I just don't think having a strong bite force would be beneficial for the cat
People love assuming long tusks are weak and fragile but have a look at an elephant his teeth are also tusks wich means extended outside the mouth and yet they can puncture other animals anywhere without breaking them of course their teeth aren't fragile they're as strong as modern canines in modern cats the size doesn't make them more fragile as they aren't just longer they're also much thicker than small canines
Yeah that's more than Today's african lions and Bengal tigers in the jungle,s and they used to hunt bigger prey like Bison, Mammoth and maybe Giant sloths that used to walk on all four,s🦥🦥.
@haroldalan7080 I'm not sure if you know this or not, but even the biggest lions are smaller than the biggest tigers...lions don't usually get to 700lbs
Smilodons Saberteeth Had a weaker bite force than a Siberian Tiger. Siberian Tigers have a bite force of 1050PSI. While Smilodon Populators Saberteeth could only withstand forces up to 150PSI of clamping force while bitting down on hard bone. Before the Saberteeth snapped. But Smiliodons teeth were still capable of withstanding stronger forces than 150psi without their teeth breaking. But only in Short quick bursts, of their teeth slammed down on their prey like a pickax instead of constant pressure bitting down on their prey like Lions and Tigers.
I’d say cougar wins. Me Bornean Orangutans are gigantic, heavy, strong, loud, and masters at traversing through the forest. But if a cougar could get close enough for an assault, I’d say there’s little to no chance than an orangutan could escape if it gets attacked. It’s best bet would be to use its size and weight to fend it off before it gets too badly hurt
Smilodon Populator (SP) Vs Siberian Tiger (ST) Strength - SP Mass - SP Bulk - SP Weaponry - Tie Technique - ST Skill - ST A.P - ST D.C - SP Offense - ST Defense - SP Durability - SP Endurance - Tie Stamina - SP Attacking Speed - ST Dodging Speed - ST IQ - ST Battle IQ - ST Experience - SP Results:- SP - 10 ST - 10 Actually, Siberian Tiger defeats Smilodon Populator with high-extreme difficulty.
People don't understand that animal evolves. Lions or Tigers are evolved versions of prehistoric cats with all around effective killing tools. This is simply the evolution. Smilodon cats have something missing in them and that is the result for their extinction. Only forearm strength and canine use for puncturing and blood loss will not take you far enough if your preys will also evolve. If you are slow in chasing, you will not be an effective hunter. Siberian tiger's will simply stand in its powerful hind legs and will use quick 2/3 swipes. Razor sharp retractable claws will mess the Sabertooth's face.
Smilodon fatalis vs Siberian tiger is a win for the Siberian tiger. However, if the Siberian was matched up against the much bigger South American species, Smilodon populator, it would be a win for the sabre-tooth cat. One mistake that’s in the video is that Smilodon populator weighed a maximum of 280 kg! 280 kg is actually the max weight of the smaller Smilodon fatalis. The much bigger Smilodon populator weighed a maximum of 420-430 kg. Anyway, thank you for a interesting video.
If it's 420-430kg then it's too much for the tiger to wrestle against. its only recourse is to use its agility and run away. It can't compete against such a huge size advantage since both are apex predators but one is much larger. it's like putting a feather weight boxer against a heavy weight boxer.
A Smilodon Fatalis or Populator should have had the might to destroy Siberian Tigers or any type of Lion. Despite Siberian Tigers being truly mighty. Smilodons were simply even mightier.
I'm going to go with a Split Decision on this one. Just as in today's comparisons between the modern Tiger and the modern Lion, sometimes the Lion would win, and sometimes, the Tiger would win. I believe the same is true here. It always depends on the 2 individual combatants. We have seen videos of Tigers in fights, and we know their tactics and capabilities. However..... we have never seen a Smilodon in action, therefore, we can only assume at how it would fight, and what tactics it would use.
Aren’t tigers more powerful in almost every species? And bigger and heavier? Less speed than a lion ofc but I’d be more than willing to eat that a Siberian tiger would win against a Lion.
For gods sake. You are measuring the living cats bite strength vs an extinct cat that has no modern prologue. Let me straighten this out once and for all. Smilodon used a different set of muscles then any living cats. Many smilodon skulls and shoulder blades have puncture holes clean through from their sabre teeth. So I say and will repeat, no living cat can puncture through skull and shoulder blades. So what does this say about the bite force of living cats vs smilodon?
The Smilodon would most likely win Siberian tiger. even if the tiger bite the Smilodon. The Smilodon only need to bite the tiger once with its 28 cm fangs
The Siberian tiger needs only to look at smilodons fangs and cede smilodon the victory. Tigers are not stupid. He will run to live another day. Also, gigantic smilodon populator skulls have been found in south america that dwarf the biggest siberian tiger. No contest.
I’m gonna go with the Siberian Tiger. I think the Smilodon’s excessively large teach would be a problem slowing it down especially against the Siberian tiger
It's fair to say this fight was more based on theory and hypothesis rather than practicality, mainly because not much is known about the extinct Smilodon. Would we know how fast they are simply by looking at them? or whether their bite force was stronger, simply by guessing so, or whether they were stronger because the prey species in the past were bigger? The only reason they succeeded in hunting those prey was because they worked in hunting groups. This video was more of a what if scenario rather than a definite fact.
Smilodon's huge canines were just for display but more of a hindrance. It even struggled to bite deep because those teeth were in the way. The Siberian tiger has everything in correct proportion so would have won.
@@2freezingyes the teeth weren’t meant for fighting, they used their teeth to quickly pick axe a prey’s throat, however the Amur tigers in the wild rarely even got to 650lbs(300kg)where as the average weight for a male Smilodon Populator was 850-900lbs(410kg) and they had much stronger and denser muscles and bones, the Amur Tiger is longer and has better speed and agility, but it would lose a head on fight with a saber tooth because it’s too weak, it’s one of the few times an Amur Tiger would be out muscled by another big cat. So more than likely the Smilodon would win
You see smilodon taking down huge prey such as mammoths in fact most prey was bigger during that period of time so it had to be bigger and more powerful too.then you see tigers taking birds and small mammals and up to deer size animals but usually not bigger than that a tiger is a giant powerful cat but I'd think the sabre tooth would win in a straight up fight! 🦁🐯🐅🐆🤷🏻♂️
I would have picked the Siberian Tiger before the video. They have powerful swipes too with their claws, I think that might factor into it. Is there any estimation of the Smilodon bite force?
Tigers can kill cattle and bears with a single swipe. When two tigers fight, they're often wary of paw swipes because they could be killed by one as well.
The Smilodon had a relatively weak bite force and their saber teeth were pretty fragile so they could bite through the fleshier parts of their prey, they'd wrestle their prey to the ground and bite its throat or jugular to kill it quickly.
The Strongest exerted bite force strength a Smilodon Populator could bite with is 150psi. Any more psi of bite down force pressure, and the saberteeth snap.
It entirely depends on the species of smilodons. The siberian tiger might be able to take down the smaller species of smilodon in a fight but the larger species like the S.populator and S.Fatalis would destroy any modern day bigcat in a fight as they are reasonably stronger, more robust and possess stronger, thicker, denser skeletons than modern day bigcats. Smilidons in general would have a much more damaging bite due to their long sabers, which is much longer and several times bigger than canines of Tigers or lions. Once the Smilodon wrestles down the tiger and physically overpowers it, which is very likely, the Saber toothed cat will inflict serious damage with those fangs and will definitely kill the tiger.
The Siberian tiger is much quicker and agile than the smiledon, but you are right one blow from those teeth can greatly injure the Siberian. However the smiledons teeth can’t handle struggling prey and can only go for the fatal blow.
I'd like to point out it's way harder for a smilodon to actually get its oversized fangs around something as quick as a tiger. Smilodon hunted in open areas and the things they took down weren't nearly as athletic or shifty as tigers.
@@rexmagi4606 True, I agree. Tigers are more agile, can manuever their body better and is definitely faster than the smilodon, but the superior strength of the smilidon may be able to compensate for his disadvantages. Not sure if i am correct, but i think they were able to kill large prehistoric bears that were far more formidable than tigers. I did say smilidon, the largest species, takes this fight 9/10.
I think it would be a close fight between the Siberian Tiger and the Smilodon. In captivity it would be a close fight and it would depend of circumstances. Depending on who’s cage the invader would be crossing, the Siberian Tiger would more than likely be fighting for his life and relying on quick blows with it’s claws and retreating to avoid getting its neck punctured by the smilodon. The Smilodon would win if it was able to grip the tiger by it’s back and bite into it’s neck, while taking the quick blows by the tiger, with its long talon teeth and then again rip into it’s diaphragm area and let it bleed out. It is possible that the tiger would win if it was able to get to the neck of the smilodon and rip into into its torso. It would wound it and be able to kill it. I would also have to add that putting these two animals into a cage together would be very cruel. Out in the wild I think these two animals would avoid each other. Again, tigers aren’t going to kill another animal of equal size unless they know they can win. Unless the tiger were to get ambushed while it’s eating the carcass of the deer by the smilodon. It might put up a fight against it.
Man this would be fascinating to see considered we really don't know how a smildon would hunt and it's actually weight mass but would love to see it I would say if they both fought 10 times each would win 5 times
🏆Smiled Smilodon 4 da win🏆 As badass as the Siberian Tiger is, I gotta go 4 the Smilodon due to its incredibly long and deadly canines which are more dangerous than the Siberian Tiger's and it's canine teeth are about 2 and a half to 2 inches long
Smilidon had weak jaws and the long canines broke easily. It’s shoulders and forelimbs were extremely robust. Siberian tiger has stronger jaws, better design, is bigger and faster. It would be a draw, depending on who got the first strike.
@@alexeptop where the muscles attached to?, the skull, where the most pressure apply to the victim?, the jaw bone and teeth, where most stress affect to the predator if it bites?, the jaw bone, even if smilodon got strong muscle, if the bone is too fragile it will just break
Yeah. The smilodon teeth are used for killing not fighting as this explains why their jaws were fragile. Smilodon wins through killing. S. Tiger wins through strength, speed and agility. They're jaws were modern and very strong which would aid it in a fight unlike those of smilodon. I would suggest that if the fight takes place in cold ❄️❄️❄️ winter, the Siberian Tiger has the edge because it has thick coat for protection. The claws are strong and very retractable and this helps it in hunting mid to large prey. Then again , whoever starts the attack would win.
@@Idontneedwindyouneedit . Agreed. Good estimation. The problem is that Tiger and Gorilla fans overrate tigers claiming that they weigh 998+ pounds(696kgs) . To me this is an obese Siberian Tiger. A Tiger in the wild relies on a healthy strong body weight to hunt it's prey.
@@Dan-https-m3b according to Siberian tiger project and wwf, Siberian tigers only weigh 180 kg on average. The largest Siberian tiger under Siberian tiger project weighed 206 kg
It makes sense that smilodon would win the fight due to its strength/bite force, the tyger Although the better apex cat because of its built, speed, agility, which are like athlete skills or incredible athletic attributes, they aren’t the most important things in combat, grit, toughness, durability, tenacity, strength are all more important for fighting then athleticism.
I’d say the Wolverine because of its weaponry, and it’s size and weight advantages. A Wolverine would take a fisher and prolly win. And a sure wolf ought to win against a megalictus
If those weight figures of the smilodon are correct, then he's far and away bigger than the tiger. Tigers only reach that weight in captivity. There was no captivity in the old days. Wild on wild, smilodon was way bigger. If captive vs wild, then the savage smilodon is going up against a complacent cat that lost it's nature.
@@Asiansxsymbol nope 550 is in the heavier end that’s like a specimen Siberian tigers are endangered and are getting less prey and area to go in the past like 1800s sure the average was around 500 ish but now days there starving from habitat loss and less prey and are around 350-450 on average they only get up to 500 in zoos
Smilodon would have broken it’s K9’s under such immense bite force given the anatomy of its K9’s, being long and flat side on, unlike a modern day cat’s. Furthermore, there is some evidence Smilodon could have hunted as a pride, as lions making a kill. Therefore, being more successful.
Tiger wrecks shop due to it having incredible durability, agility, and still being alive. I don't see smilodon being able to even use its mouth in this fight because of how unwieldy it is against something as shifty and quick as a tiger. There's a big difference in taking down a herbivore designed for grazing in open areas and a tiger which sneaks through the jungle to kill prey that is significantly smarter and more evolved than the prey smilodon used to hunt. Ive worked hands on with a white Bengal and two Siberian tigers and they are capable of some insane feats of agility and quickness that smilodon just wasn't likely to be capable of.
· Analysis of its narrow jaws indicates that it could produce a bite only a third as strong as that of a lion (the bite force quotient measured for the lion is .
Smilodon win,,,,smilodon populator can reach 400kg...Pound per pound it's heavier than Siberian Tiger... It's one bite can paralyzed tiger, lion and even mammoth.... They are greater cat, anatomically they are much stronger than any other panthera cat... Even smilodons are more muscular than tiger or lion.... As like todays cougar and cheetah had no chance to win a fight between tiger, lion, leopard, jaguar
I don't know...... this is a tough one. However, even though I would love to give it toothed Siberian tiger. I just don't see how it could stand against a prehistoric monster that hunted insanely large prey. One would assume that its skin would be insanely thick to withstand injury from the counterattacks it would have had to defend against while hunting. In just don't see the average tiger winning a battle against these beasts. Its thick muscular structure and skin would negate a lot of the tiger's attacks. And it should be much much larger. Siberian Tigers could probably kill the teenage Smileodons, but definitely not Alpha Smileodons. Otherwise, they'd be extinct, too, because they would have been too formidable for today's environment.
Cape Buffalo wins (High Diff) Depends on the subspecies, Black Rhino vs Hippo is 50/50, anything smaller than Black Rhino loses, White Rhino on the other hand wins (High-Extreme Diff) Chimpanzee wins (Mid Diff) This is a 50/50 on land, in water Caiman wins (No Diff) This depends greatly on what subspecies of brown bear it is, if it is Kodiak Bear, Kamchatka Brown Bear, Coastal Grizzly Bear, Ussuri Brown Bear the Tiger loses, if it is any other subspecies of brown bear then the Tiger wins.
Cape buffalo hard diff. Close quarters hippo, ranged rhino. Chimpanzee low to mid diff. Komodo mid diff, in water it has a disadvantage. Bengal tiger could ambush but brown bear could possibly over power the bengal but probably would suffer fatal injuries
@@SHDWPN first person I heard that knows a brown bear is stronger than a tiger I agree I think the tiger would have a hard time defeating a brown bear even a grizzly
@@Darth_Malgus4627 I agree with everything but the tiger part if its a ambush I think a tiger could take down a grizzly but I don't think a tiger even with ambush could take down a costal grizzly or kodiack and in a head to head I don't think the tiger would win against any of the bears are just to strong.
@@susman791 yeah. People consume the Siberian tiger with the southern bengal tiger through souther Asia. The Siberian tiger is much more powerful and has been known to kill very Lage animals such as dominant male grizzlies but it’s very rare. About as rare as a bengal tiger ambushing an elder matriarch in an elephant family that’s been separated by its family. But still possible.
@@marshallwayne-uf4pq There is a lot of craziness compared to that Gorilla's bite force is 1300 psi☠️ Lion's bite force is 1000 psi not 650psi Gorilla fans still belives gorilla's bite force is double the bite force of Lion What u gonna say for that
Recent studies show that the huge teeth were more a deterrent than an effective tool. Many skulls were found with broken off tooth. Anyway cats now are more agile and and probably more intelligent which may give them the advantage.
The smilodon lived with tigers but if they could beat a tiger could bring down the same prey that exists today.
They somehow did not..the long canines would be inneffectual in a real fight..with which claws are used with cats.
Smilodon certainly didn't have more bite power than a tiger. In the documentary Prehistoric Hunters, they compared the bite force of Smilodon and the African lion, and the African lion had several times more power in its jaws. The smilodon's skull was not built for the force exerted by the lion when biting, and it would have been blown apart.
I think I watched that documentary too, they couldn’t bite down hard or shake their prey in their jaws. If they did their k9s would shatter. They also didn’t have any change of direction because of the stubbed tail.
They used their neck for forcing downwards. The only use for the long tooths
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There is a lot of speculation as to how the Sabre toothed cats, used their canines, and against which prey they may have been employed. It makes no sense that they would have been used on smaller prey, so we must assume that they had a design specifically for larger prey animals. Bite force isn't necessarily a determining factor in a fight, when one animal is more robust and muscular, in comparison to the other. A modern large cat may be able to bite harder, but they would be doing it with much smaller teeth. One stab by much larger teeth, is causing wounds that will lead to extensive blood loss and weakness in the prey animal. A Smilodon, would be much more powerful than a modern large cat. It would pin it, bite it once, and wait for it to bleed out!
The Smilodon didn't rely on a strong bite force. It fact it's weaker compared to today's big cats. It's weapons was it's immense forearms which subdues their prey. The teeth were used to puncture and cause tremendous blood lose. But the teeth has a weakness in that the side walls were fragile and weak. So it was very careful with it's bite.
Everything I've read about smilodon stated that the canines were fragile. The killing method was to rip open the throat. The forelimbs and shoulders were large enough to hold down larger prey. Large felines attack larger prey in a similar fashion by suffocation today right down to puma today!
@@markmccarty9793 I think they would have been aware how fragile their teeth were. I see a more defensive animal that act more timid and protective. As oppose to a tiger which such an aggressive animal. In a fight between them a tiger will just swipe and bite whatever part that presented itself.
For almost anything you said us just a theory and not any big evidence to support these claims maybe expect about the teeth
@@alexeptopWell all of Paleontology is one giant Theory. Some can be proven but that’s very limited. Unless we were there to witness all of these events in history we will never know exactly how all these creatures and events actually were.
What about he's paw's n claws?
Siberian tiger had a much stronger bite, but Smilodon Populator would have been more powerful (overall). Smilodon populator was like a bear/lion fusion that was built for raw power, but not speed. They likely overpowed and wrestled their prey down, punctured the neck, then let them bleed out. This way they didnt damage their canines.
Tiger's swipe paw is stronger than Smilodon btw
@@OGking831Its not.Are u dumb? THE WHOLE REASON SMILODONS REACH 436 KG IS BECAUSE OF THEIR ROBUST AND DENSE BONES AND INSANE AMOUNT OF MUSCLE MASS.THEIR FOREARMS ARE BUILT LIKE A BEAR.THEIR SHOULDERS ARE JACKED TOO
@@OGking831Wrong, but alright.
I thought Smilodon's canines were good for ambush, but not for close combat.
True
Ey also had a relatively weak bite force tbh
@@oliversperry9274 truly this does not mean that much. It's not like the other animal will just sit there and say bite me. In a real fight speed flexibility stamina agression and intelegence would determine the outcomes. Tigers, lions and jaguars take down crocodilians in the wild and the Caymans/crocks have way stronger bite force.
Smilodon canines were fragile. They are used for killing not fighting.
@@Dan-https-m3b No they werent, a recent study found that the fangs could pierce the skulls of other Smilodons.
Smilodon (assuming we’re talking about the biggest of the 3 sub species) was larger than a Siberian Tiger. Infact it was about the largest feline that’s ever existed.
However, what potentially swings this, are it’s enormous canines. While very useful at delivering a killer bite vs prey, they were practically useless against other apex predators.
As a result of this, anything which could stand up to it and fight at close quarters, as a Siberian Tiger could, would have very good chance.
That said, this is very hard to call and could certainly go either way.
I think you're right in the first instance. A smilodon would be very vulnerable. The Tiger is very, very fast and agile and would not be waiting for smilodon to open wide. Smilodon would have a major advantage though. If it got a hold of the tiger it would basically have it squeezed and locked up and would take all the time it needed to open wide. Pure brawn and strength. I think they got up to 1200 pounds but most were in the 800 to 1000 pound range for the biggest species.
It's been a while since I've watched these videos, back then this channel only had 200k+ subs, now it has over double!! I'm so happy for the channel. I've always loved it and now the videos are even better.
Fun fact: The largest wild tiger ever recorded was not a Siberian tiger, but a Bengal Tiger shot by a hunter in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh in the 60s. The tiger weighed whopping 390 kilograms.
These days, wild Bengal Tigers tend to be larger than the Siberian Tigers because Siberian Tigers have shrunken in size due to loss of prey. In captivity, Siberian Tigers still outgrow Bengal Tigers.
Any wild cat get size in captivity
We see that Bengal tiger was hunted which means it was lived in wild
Bengal tiger is the biggedt wild cat in present day
@@grizzlybeast4513
Yes. But Siberian tigers can still grow larger than Bengal Tigers if they have enough prey.
That is the weight when it eats a baby buffalo, but normally it weighs only 324.3 kg
Bengal Tigers are also being poached, why would Siberian Tigers shrink but Bengal Tigers wouldnt??
Next battles:
1. Elephant vs Stegosaurus
2. Nile crocodile vs male great white shark
3. Lion pride vs male T. rex
4. Polar bear vs hippo
5. Sarcosuchus vs mosasaurus
Yeah,lions against a T-Rex, of course 😂😂😂😂 what's next, a Barracuda vs Megalodon? 😂
Stego
Great White Shark
Rex
Hippo
Mosa
Lion pride vs trex ☠️☠️
@@grizzlybeast4513 yeah. This is so stupid..Lions can't kill am elephant, i really can't see a lion catching a T-Rex jugular..xD xD stop dreaming
Elephant
Shark
Lion pride
Polar bear
Mosa
Smilodon certainly looks scary with those huge fangs, but I think they would have been more of a hindrance. They are too long for the opening of the jaw. It would have been a close call but I think the Siberian tiger would edge it...
Even before watching this, my money is on the ancient Siberian Tiger which still had its natural big size and strength. Smilodon canine isn't designed for combat, it quickly breaks against such an opponent as Siberian Tiger. Buh if the Smilodon in question is Fatalis, Siberian Tiger may lose.
Bruh u know sabers hunted way bigger prey with thicker skin such as wholly rhinos and giant ground sloths there teeth are not weak also they have stronger bite force than tiger tiger would lose to saber because saber has everything except run speed saber would win mid diff.
@@susman791 their canines are used to impale, that won't work on a Siberian Tiger that's a solo assassin. Remember that cave Lions at the time kill Smilodons. Buh at the same time, there are several subspecies of Smilodon, the Fatalis will kill a Siberian Tiger.
@@Catboycarls if it kills it kills lol I don't get what you're saying if the Smilidon bites the tiger the teeth work the same if sabers teeth can pierce the hide of wolly rhinos I'm sure it can pierce the tiger 😂also sabers are stronger than a tiger and where way bigger so saber wins lol
@@Catboycarls dont all teeth impale though lol 😂
Ancient Siberian tigers are exaggerated. They were same size as today.
Thanks!!! for posting the video I've been requesting for a long time!!!
Smilodon 70-75%
He is right. I would go for the Smiledon as well. I love the way he narrates the video. great voice for it. Thanks for them.
SMILODON STOMPS AAAAA
Pointing out mistakes:
- First of all they aren't rivals, never were.
Smilodon did not co-exist with any tiger.
- Here you are comparing a population/subspecies against an entire genus. S. populator beats Siberian tiger. S. fatalis will be closer but confidently I'd say, fatalis will win. S. gracilis loses though. Here, you focused on fatalis.
- Smilodon bite isn't as powerful as a tiger bite. The pressure is probably lower, and weaker canines. However it makes for a much deadlier bite with its knife-like fangs.
- Siberian tigers are smaller than S. fatalis, weighing an average of 190-200 kgs, and the largest specimen was 270 kgs. (All reliable records). Meanwhile the Fatalis was ~220-230 kgs on average (species level? specimens although unwise to calculate average for long-gone animals). S. fatalis maxed over 300 kgs in reality, the 280 kgs has been surpassed now. Some going as far as 342 kgs although this I doubt.
- Smilodon fatalis and populator, were bulkier than any pantherine.
The largest prehistoric wild cat the SIMILODON would win against the Siberian Tiger
Due to its sheer size 💪and bite effectiveness
The only thing Siberian tiger has is agility and speed when compared to the SIMILODON 🔥💥🔥
@Nickc710 SIMILODON takes the edge in bite effectiveness
Siberian Tiger bite force is 1000 psi not 1200 psi
Ya saber would win
@Nickc710 The bite force of a siberian tiger is 1200 psi and that's the most it can reach and it's definitely suitable for preying on such modern animals but Smilodon back then used to hunt way bigger animals such as mammoth and wholly rhinos and it used to be way bigger than modern day animals so smilodon had to have way higher bite force than todays modern tigers so it would be obviously way higher than 1200 psi so smilodon clearly wins in terms of bite force and it would definitely kill a siberian tiger if they have to engage in a fight.
Smilodon is a fake creature created by evolutionist
Amphimachairodus giganteus and Panthera atrox are larger look it up !
Smilodon
request white rhino vs wooly rhino who is stronger and can win a fight?
Easily wolly rhino
If I remember correctly Smilodon Populator averaged 400kg and was built more like a bear. More robust, compact and muscular. Better built for combat
Saber tooth cat wins this
400kg is at its biggest not average, and some Siberian Tigers have weighed over 400kg, Siberian Tigers win most of the time.
@@illyaedwards7188 Tigers also have the stronger bite force advantage too. Smilodons were only capable of clamping their Saberteeth down with 150 psi of bite force. While Tiger's are capable of exerting 1050psi of bite force biting down.
@@johndoherty487your right, I read an article were it said Smilodon cats were weak in the Jaws, there long canines were more for show then bite force.
@@illyaedwards7188 Smilodons saberteeth were for more than just show. Their Saberteeth were still very strong with direct downward pressures. Smilodons used their Saberteeth like a pickaxe. Throwing their Saberteeth downwards with their very strong neck muscles. For puncturing flesh or the skull of their prey.
Smilodons bones especially limbs were twice as thick and durable than a Tiger…they would destroy a Tiger
Smilodon Populator or Fatalis straight-up bodies Siberian Tigers. Fatalis was 900 pounds while Populator was even bigger at a full half-ton. Both Sabercats could fight adult mammoths in a group of 3. Even a pair of Tigers would rarely attack an Elephant. Sabercats also often attacked their prey with skull bites to pierce the eyes. Yes, they hunted humans. Indicating they knew how to identify weaknesses and how to exploit them. So, with equal intelligence and superior size and strength, there are no advantages left for the modern Tiger.
Yup
I thought Smilodon Populator was solitary.
Fatalis was 600-700 pounds. Populator was the one that reached 800-900 pounds.
@@Darth_Malgus4627no both fatalis and Populator were social animals. Most of sabertooth family including homotherium were also social animals.
Also, how were people able to conclude that smilodon had a weak bite force? Last time i checked, mammals bite with their bottom jaw and not the upper one. Also Smilodon had bones that were much more dense than any cat today, not to mention it was also the most muscular cat to ever live, jaw muscles included.
Yeah I doubt the smiladons bite would have been very powerful. Got to rember those teeth would break easily. I don't think they would kill with a typical bit anyways, from what I've heard they would pin the prey down and stab down with the teeth. I just don't think having a strong bite force would be beneficial for the cat
It doesn't have to be powerful, only efficient! A weak person with a huge knife, can still stab you with it!
@@shawnj1966 yeah that's what my original comment said. Too strong a bite wouldn't be beneficial to the cat as the teeth could break easily
Let's call it a draw. 😮
People love assuming long tusks are weak and fragile but have a look at an elephant his teeth are also tusks wich means extended outside the mouth and yet they can puncture other animals anywhere without breaking them of course their teeth aren't fragile they're as strong as modern canines in modern cats the size doesn't make them more fragile as they aren't just longer they're also much thicker than small canines
Smilodon populators can actually reach 400 kg.
😂😂😂😂
@Nickc710 around 880 pounds.
Yeah that's more than Today's african lions and Bengal tigers in the jungle,s and they used to hunt bigger prey like Bison, Mammoth and maybe Giant sloths that used to walk on all four,s🦥🦥.
why did the narrator lie about populator weighing only 600 pounds unless he got populator confused with smilodon fatalis
@haroldalan7080 I'm not sure if you know this or not, but even the biggest lions are smaller than the biggest tigers...lions don't usually get to 700lbs
Smilodons Saberteeth Had a weaker bite force than a Siberian Tiger. Siberian Tigers have a bite force of 1050PSI. While Smilodon Populators Saberteeth could only withstand forces up to 150PSI of clamping force while bitting down on hard bone. Before the Saberteeth snapped. But Smiliodons teeth were still capable of withstanding stronger forces than 150psi without their teeth breaking. But only in Short quick bursts, of their teeth slammed down on their prey like a pickax instead of constant pressure bitting down on their prey like Lions and Tigers.
I would like to see the fight between a Borneo Orangutan and a Cougar. That would be interesting!
I’d say cougar wins. Me Bornean Orangutans are gigantic, heavy, strong, loud, and masters at traversing through the forest. But if a cougar could get close enough for an assault, I’d say there’s little to no chance than an orangutan could escape if it gets attacked. It’s best bet would be to use its size and weight to fend it off before it gets too badly hurt
Great video! More!
If the smilodon had normal fangs, then it would win because of it's bigger size and power, but those giant teeth would be a hindrance in a fight.
Smilodon Populator (SP) Vs Siberian Tiger (ST)
Strength - SP
Mass - SP
Bulk - SP
Weaponry - Tie
Technique - ST
Skill - ST
A.P - ST
D.C - SP
Offense - ST
Defense - SP
Durability - SP
Endurance - Tie
Stamina - SP
Attacking Speed - ST
Dodging Speed - ST
IQ - ST
Battle IQ - ST
Experience - SP
Results:-
SP - 10
ST - 10
Actually, Siberian Tiger defeats Smilodon Populator with high-extreme difficulty.
People don't understand that animal evolves. Lions or Tigers are evolved versions of prehistoric cats with all around effective killing tools. This is simply the evolution. Smilodon cats have something missing in them and that is the result for their extinction. Only forearm strength and canine use for puncturing and blood loss will not take you far enough if your preys will also evolve. If you are slow in chasing, you will not be an effective hunter. Siberian tiger's will simply stand in its powerful hind legs and will use quick 2/3 swipes. Razor sharp retractable claws will mess the Sabertooth's face.
Smilodon body is like Hyena's.
Smilodon fatalis vs Siberian tiger is a win for the Siberian tiger. However, if the Siberian was matched up against the much bigger South American species, Smilodon populator, it would be a win for the sabre-tooth cat. One mistake that’s in the video is that Smilodon populator weighed a maximum of 280 kg! 280 kg is actually the max weight of the smaller Smilodon fatalis. The much bigger Smilodon populator weighed a maximum of 420-430 kg. Anyway, thank you for a interesting video.
If it's 420-430kg then it's too much for the tiger to wrestle against. its only recourse is to use its agility and run away. It can't compete against such a huge size advantage since both are apex predators but one is much larger. it's like putting a feather weight boxer against a heavy weight boxer.
A Smilodon Fatalis or Populator should have had the might to destroy Siberian Tigers or any type of Lion. Despite Siberian Tigers being truly mighty. Smilodons were simply even mightier.
So simple
The similodon would win
I'm going to go with a Split Decision on this one. Just as in today's comparisons between the modern Tiger and the modern Lion, sometimes the Lion would win, and sometimes, the Tiger would win. I believe the same is true here. It always depends on the 2 individual combatants. We have seen videos of Tigers in fights, and we know their tactics and capabilities. However..... we have never seen a Smilodon in action, therefore, we can only assume at how it would fight, and what tactics it would use.
Aren’t tigers more powerful in almost every species? And bigger and heavier? Less speed than a lion ofc but I’d be more than willing to eat that a Siberian tiger would win against a Lion.
For gods sake. You are measuring the living cats bite strength vs an extinct cat that has no modern prologue. Let me straighten this out once and for all. Smilodon used a different set of muscles then any living cats. Many smilodon skulls and shoulder blades have puncture holes clean through from their sabre teeth. So I say and will repeat, no living cat can puncture through skull and shoulder blades. So what does this say about the bite force of living cats vs smilodon?
two awesome and powerful beasts. 😍
How could you possibly know that the smilodon had greater hunting success???
The Smilodon would most likely win Siberian tiger. even if the tiger bite the Smilodon. The Smilodon only need to bite the tiger once with its 28 cm fangs
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The Siberian tiger needs only to look at smilodons fangs and cede smilodon the victory. Tigers are not stupid. He will run to live another day. Also, gigantic smilodon populator skulls have been found in south america that dwarf the biggest siberian tiger. No contest.
I’m gonna go with the Siberian Tiger. I think the Smilodon’s excessively large teach would be a problem slowing it down especially against the Siberian tiger
It's fair to say this fight was more based on theory and hypothesis rather than practicality, mainly because not much is known about the extinct Smilodon. Would we know how fast they are simply by looking at them? or whether their bite force was stronger, simply by guessing so, or whether they were stronger because the prey species in the past were bigger? The only reason they succeeded in hunting those prey was because they worked in hunting groups. This video was more of a what if scenario rather than a definite fact.
Smilodon's huge canines were just for display but more of a hindrance. It even struggled to bite deep because those teeth were in the way. The Siberian tiger has everything in correct proportion so would have won.
I’ve been thinking exactly what you said for years. Their teeth is an disadvantage in many ways
@@2freezingyes the teeth weren’t meant for fighting, they used their teeth to quickly pick axe a prey’s throat, however the Amur tigers in the wild rarely even got to 650lbs(300kg)where as the average weight for a male Smilodon Populator was 850-900lbs(410kg) and they had much stronger and denser muscles and bones, the Amur Tiger is longer and has better speed and agility, but it would lose a head on fight with a saber tooth because it’s too weak, it’s one of the few times an Amur Tiger would be out muscled by another big cat. So more than likely the Smilodon would win
Request: triceratops vs Siberian tiger
The triceratops wins.
The rhino like dinosaur has a very thick skin .
Trike
Thank you so much 😊
You see smilodon taking down huge prey such as mammoths in fact most prey was bigger during that period of time so it had to be bigger and more powerful too.then you see tigers taking birds and small mammals and up to deer size animals but usually not bigger than that a tiger is a giant powerful cat but I'd think the sabre tooth would win in a straight up fight! 🦁🐯🐅🐆🤷🏻♂️
I would have picked the Siberian Tiger before the video. They have powerful swipes too with their claws, I think that might factor into it. Is there any estimation of the Smilodon bite force?
Tigers can kill cattle and bears with a single swipe. When two tigers fight, they're often wary of paw swipes because they could be killed by one as well.
The Smilodon had a relatively weak bite force and their saber teeth were pretty fragile so they could bite through the fleshier parts of their prey, they'd wrestle their prey to the ground and bite its throat or jugular to kill it quickly.
@@dhivaansalig6398 Smildons teeth could pierce skulls and the thick hide of Woolly Rhinos, they were not fragile at all.
@@Yoshikarter1the smilodon had strength that puts that of a tiger to shame
The Strongest exerted bite force strength a Smilodon Populator could bite with is 150psi. Any more psi of bite down force pressure, and the saberteeth snap.
I think the smildon has a good advantage
Bite force does not determine the win in a fight.
True! But a stronger bite force. With more Battle IQ, Faster Speed, Agility does.
Next video proposition
African Elephant vs Deinosuchus
What’s the narrator’s name?? I swear this is HistoryMarche lol
??? Smilidon Populator were the biggest Sabre-Toothed Cats, they reached weights upto 400 kgs!
Smilodon easily wins the fight.
American Lion vs Ngandong Tiger please
Ngadong Tiger Wins
Cave Lion > Smilodon > Siberian Tiger
Ironically, Smilodon behaved a lot like lions according to Walking with beasts.
It entirely depends on the species of smilodons. The siberian tiger might be able to take down the smaller species of smilodon in a fight but the larger species like the S.populator and S.Fatalis would destroy any modern day bigcat in a fight as they are reasonably stronger, more robust and possess stronger, thicker, denser skeletons than modern day bigcats. Smilidons in general would have a much more damaging bite due to their long sabers, which is much longer and several times bigger than canines of Tigers or lions.
Once the Smilodon wrestles down the tiger and physically overpowers it, which is very likely, the Saber toothed cat will inflict serious damage with those fangs and will definitely kill the tiger.
The Siberian tiger is much quicker and agile than the smiledon, but you are right one blow from those teeth can greatly injure the Siberian. However the smiledons teeth can’t handle struggling prey and can only go for the fatal blow.
I'd like to point out it's way harder for a smilodon to actually get its oversized fangs around something as quick as a tiger. Smilodon hunted in open areas and the things they took down weren't nearly as athletic or shifty as tigers.
@@rexmagi4606 True, I agree. Tigers are more agile, can manuever their body better and is definitely faster than the smilodon, but the superior strength of the smilidon may be able to compensate for his disadvantages. Not sure if i am correct, but i think they were able to kill large prehistoric bears that were far more formidable than tigers. I did say smilidon, the largest species, takes this fight 9/10.
@@rexmagi4606 exactly
@@rexmagi4606 smildon hunted even mammroth smildon were ambush predators you know what ambush means right?
Smilodon populators were bigger and heavier than Siberian Tigers..
I think it would be a close fight between the Siberian Tiger and the Smilodon. In captivity it would be a close fight and it would depend of circumstances. Depending on who’s cage the invader would be crossing, the Siberian Tiger would more than likely be fighting for his life and relying on quick blows with it’s claws and retreating to avoid getting its neck punctured by the smilodon. The Smilodon would win if it was able to grip the tiger by it’s back and bite into it’s neck, while taking the quick blows by the tiger, with its long talon teeth and then again rip into it’s diaphragm area and let it bleed out. It is possible that the tiger would win if it was able to get to the neck of the smilodon and rip into into its torso. It would wound it and be able to kill it. I would also have to add that putting these two animals into a cage together would be very cruel.
Out in the wild I think these two animals would avoid each other. Again, tigers aren’t going to kill another animal of equal size unless they know they can win. Unless the tiger were to get ambushed while it’s eating the carcass of the deer by the smilodon. It might put up a fight against it.
Man this would be fascinating to see considered we really don't know how a smildon would hunt and it's actually weight mass but would love to see it I would say if they both fought 10 times each would win 5 times
Pretty accurate. The smilodon should win more times. A Siberian tiger has a chance, but not as much as a smilodon.
Fake
A Sabortooth Tiger would go right through a human's organs in one bite and kill them.
Let's have the saltwater crocodile vs the Nile crocodile next.
Siberian Tiger it is bigger and faster but depends on who gets first fatal
attack
Orca vs Elephant Seal needs to be next!
First of all, it’s debatable if Siberian tiger is biggest cat. They are similar size with big lions and Bengal tigers.
Smilodon kills tigers, lions, jaguars, leopards, pumas and lifers.
🏆Smiled Smilodon 4 da win🏆
As badass as the Siberian Tiger is, I gotta go 4 the Smilodon due to its incredibly long and deadly canines which are more dangerous than the Siberian Tiger's and it's canine teeth are about 2 and a half to 2 inches long
in a real fight a smilodon would stand no chance against a siberian tiger...
@@astra1836 shut up
Smilidon had weak jaws and the long canines broke easily. It’s shoulders and forelimbs were extremely robust. Siberian tiger has stronger jaws, better design, is bigger and faster. It would be a draw, depending on who got the first strike.
What's ur proof for the weak bite force
@@alexeptopjaw structure?, compared to Tiger skull side to side tiger got much more eobust jaw
@@D_megapronz the muscle does the job not the bone
@@alexeptop where the muscles attached to?, the skull, where the most pressure apply to the victim?, the jaw bone and teeth, where most stress affect to the predator if it bites?, the jaw bone, even if smilodon got strong muscle, if the bone is too fragile it will just break
I mean the fct they had weak jaws are just theories we dont really know for real
180 kg siberian tiger vs 400 kg Smilodon populator. Sounds like an over kill
Yeah. The smilodon teeth are used for killing not fighting as this explains why their jaws were fragile.
Smilodon wins through killing.
S. Tiger wins through strength, speed and agility. They're jaws were modern and very strong which would aid it in a fight unlike those of smilodon.
I would suggest that if the fight takes place in cold ❄️❄️❄️ winter, the Siberian Tiger has the edge because it has thick coat for protection.
The claws are strong and very retractable and this helps it in hunting mid to large prey.
Then again , whoever starts the attack would win.
@@Dan-https-m3b many Russian zoologists said amur tiger is 220 kg and increasing with its size bro
@@Idontneedwindyouneedit . Agreed. Good estimation. The problem is that Tiger and Gorilla fans overrate tigers claiming that they weigh 998+ pounds(696kgs) .
To me this is an obese Siberian Tiger.
A Tiger in the wild relies on a healthy strong body weight to hunt it's prey.
@@Dan-https-m3b according to Siberian tiger project and wwf, Siberian tigers only weigh 180 kg on average. The largest Siberian tiger under Siberian tiger project weighed 206 kg
@@mrmuscle007 😆 180 kg was last year when no tigers were weighted ever since russia invaded ukraine victor craig said siberian tigers are 220-254 kg
It makes sense that smilodon would win the fight due to its strength/bite force, the tyger Although the better apex cat because of its built, speed, agility, which are like athlete skills or incredible athletic attributes, they aren’t the most important things in combat, grit, toughness, durability, tenacity, strength are all more important for fighting then athleticism.
You make an ENLIGHTENING POINT! Thank you.
Smilodon Populator could only bite with 150psi of bite force.
Suggestion who would win - Wolverine vs Canadian Lynx -
Fisher vs Wolverine
Megalictus vs Dire Wolf
I’d say the Wolverine because of its weaponry, and it’s size and weight advantages. A Wolverine would take a fisher and prolly win. And a sure wolf ought to win against a megalictus
Smilodon Populator would win
It is amazing and frightening as to the fact early humans and Neanderthals had to deal with these.
If those weight figures of the smilodon are correct, then he's far and away bigger than the tiger. Tigers only reach that weight in captivity. There was no captivity in the old days. Wild on wild, smilodon was way bigger. If captive vs wild, then the savage smilodon is going up against a complacent cat that lost it's nature.
True most tigers are around same size of lions around 350-450
If I'm remembering correctly, smilodons were heavier, but not quite as large in size.
@@susman791Wrong! Most Siberian tigers are 450-550 lbs.
@@Asiansxsymbol nope 550 is in the heavier end that’s like a specimen Siberian tigers are endangered and are getting less prey and area to go in the past like 1800s sure the average was around 500 ish but now days there starving from habitat loss and less prey and are around 350-450 on average they only get up to 500 in zoos
Tiger is a real animal smilodon is a fake animal *mic drop *
Smilodon would have broken it’s K9’s under such immense bite force given the anatomy of its K9’s, being long and flat side on, unlike a modern day cat’s. Furthermore, there is some evidence Smilodon could have hunted as a pride, as lions making a kill. Therefore, being more successful.
An african bush elephant against a group consisting of a rhino , a grizzly, a Bengal tiger , an african lion and a hippo.
Tiger wrecks shop due to it having incredible durability, agility, and still being alive. I don't see smilodon being able to even use its mouth in this fight because of how unwieldy it is against something as shifty and quick as a tiger. There's a big difference in taking down a herbivore designed for grazing in open areas and a tiger which sneaks through the jungle to kill prey that is significantly smarter and more evolved than the prey smilodon used to hunt. Ive worked hands on with a white Bengal and two Siberian tigers and they are capable of some insane feats of agility and quickness that smilodon just wasn't likely to be capable of.
What about a smilodon vs Barbary lions
Smilodon populator wins
Tigers can fight but they're not designed for fighting. They're hunter/ambush predator.
But Tigers are better suited for fighting than Smiliodons.
@@johndoherty487 that's true, but the Tiger is basically a giant deadly housecat.
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr The Mountain Lion is more like a giant deadly Housecat than the Tiger. A Tiger is a Larger giant housecat on steroids.
@@johndoherty487 i can agree with you on that, that analogy fits better. I just hope the Tiger fans don't come for our neck for telling the truth 🤷♂️
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Yeah! Don't let Tiger King fool you into thinking tiger's are just giant housecats.
TIGER Got this.... 💪🔥🔥🐯
Smilidon’s teeth were incapable of delivering a bite equivalent to a Siberian Tiger’s bite.
Shere Khan vs Diego
Wonder what tigers looked like 1000s of years ago
Same. Hundreds of millions would make the big difference you’re looking for
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Analysis of its narrow jaws indicates that it could produce a bite only a third as strong as that of a lion (the bite force quotient measured for the lion is .
Smilodon win,,,,smilodon populator can reach 400kg...Pound per pound it's heavier than Siberian Tiger... It's one bite can paralyzed tiger, lion and even mammoth.... They are greater cat, anatomically they are much stronger than any other panthera cat... Even smilodons are more muscular than tiger or lion.... As like todays cougar and cheetah had no chance to win a fight between tiger, lion, leopard, jaguar
I don't know...... this is a tough one. However, even though I would love to give it toothed Siberian tiger. I just don't see how it could stand against a prehistoric monster that hunted insanely large prey. One would assume that its skin would be insanely thick to withstand injury from the counterattacks it would have had to defend against while hunting. In just don't see the average tiger winning a battle against these beasts. Its thick muscular structure and skin would negate a lot of the tiger's attacks. And it should be much much larger. Siberian Tigers could probably kill the teenage Smileodons, but definitely not Alpha Smileodons. Otherwise, they'd be extinct, too, because they would have been too formidable for today's environment.
It’s very difficult to say, but I would guess that the Siberian Tiger would likely win in that it’s canine teeth are designed better for fighting.
as a kid i woulda thought so too, but not so much now...
Tiger made it till this day, it's more capable, what we know from dog fights that stamina and agility are the key to win.
Siberian or Bengal Tiger wins. There's a reason why the Smilodon is extinct and the Tiger isn't.
Their food recourse died in the climate change, not because they were hunted like tigers
@@eddyboh2723 Well true, except Tiger's were around at the same time Smilodon died out and made it. They adapted and took over.
@@briantrei6488 Same time BUT not the same continent, which makes the Smilodon Populator superior
Who would lose ?? The Homo Sapien caught in the middle. 👍👍👍👍
polar bear vs Cape buffalo
Hippo vs rhino
Chimp vs bonobo
Komodo dragon vs camine
Brown bear vs bengal tiger.
Cape Buffalo wins (High Diff)
Depends on the subspecies, Black Rhino vs Hippo is 50/50, anything smaller than Black Rhino loses, White Rhino on the other hand wins (High-Extreme Diff)
Chimpanzee wins (Mid Diff)
This is a 50/50 on land, in water Caiman wins (No Diff)
This depends greatly on what subspecies of brown bear it is, if it is Kodiak Bear, Kamchatka Brown Bear, Coastal Grizzly Bear, Ussuri Brown Bear the Tiger loses, if it is any other subspecies of brown bear then the Tiger wins.
Cape buffalo hard diff. Close quarters hippo, ranged rhino. Chimpanzee low to mid diff. Komodo mid diff, in water it has a disadvantage. Bengal tiger could ambush but brown bear could possibly over power the bengal but probably would suffer fatal injuries
@@SHDWPN first person I heard that knows a brown bear is stronger than a tiger I agree I think the tiger would have a hard time defeating a brown bear even a grizzly
@@Darth_Malgus4627 I agree with everything but the tiger part if its a ambush I think a tiger could take down a grizzly but I don't think a tiger even with ambush could take down a costal grizzly or kodiack and in a head to head I don't think the tiger would win against any of the bears are just to strong.
@@susman791 yeah. People consume the Siberian tiger with the southern bengal tiger through souther Asia. The Siberian tiger is much more powerful and has been known to kill very Lage animals such as dominant male grizzlies but it’s very rare. About as rare as a bengal tiger ambushing an elder matriarch in an elephant family that’s been separated by its family. But still possible.
You had me until you said "2.5million to 10,000 years ago..."
a smilodon's canine teeth can be broken if the bite was at the bone
I thought a wide gap opening, would drastically reduce the biting force, which I have read in other analysis of Smilodon.
It depends on the smilodon species
If it's gracilis the tiger wins
Fatalis it's 50/50
If it populator.. say goodnight
10:29 Siberian tiger bite force is not 1200 psi its 1050 psi
Smilodon takes the edge in bite effectiveness
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There is a lot of craziness compared to that
Gorilla's bite force is 1300 psi☠️
Lion's bite force is 1000 psi not 650psi
Gorilla fans still belives gorilla's bite force is double the bite force of Lion
What u gonna say for that
Lion bite force 650psi pretty weak compared to tiger! Tiger has monstrous jaws.
People underate smilodon bite effitiveness
Smiley probably had thicker skin and fur. Helping cushion attacks.😊