It's probably fun to ride, but man watching the ebikes just doesnt do anything for me. Wonder if you could say there is an aspect of nostalgia in the noise. But will anyone ever say the sound of an ebike whirring and clicking gets their heart rate going?
I'd say yes, but coming from my excitement being driven by the racecraft itself. I rode in my younger days, and that being a 2-stroke dominant era, 90s-early 2000s. I love all combustion engines but also recognize the value of instant torque for corner exit and gyro effectiveness. It's tough, I know, but if the battle and technique are satisfying to you, then it'll come to you, possibly
@BilobateDrip maybe it will. Honestly they will eventually just be better than combustion engines. There are aspects where they are now, like you say the torque and power. But going to a live event, hearing the bikes roar from inside the arena before you even go in. The vibration in your chest cavity while inside, the smell of the fuel in the air. It's just such a visceral experience. That paired with the racing itself. That's what gets me traveling around the country to put my ass in a seat. Because honestly you get better viewing and more information watching from the couch. I have a similar re action to watching them on YT like it's mostly just amusing. I dont hate the tech at all, just can't get myself to enjoy it
@BilobateDrip I did race too, a lot. From like 1990 to 2015 starting from age 5. Originally a big 2 stroke guy then went to the YZF 4 banger in 2004 and preferred those almost instantly after I rode it
WHAT! couldn't hear you over all the engine noise🤣🤣🤣 sorry love the concept but waiting hours for it to recharge and the noise is a big part in racing JMO of course
So great to see Arenacross stepping forward with the addition of the Varg. It has taken a lot of work. Hopefully Feld and MX Sports will actually be leaders and not followers and not be last in implementing like they are in almost everything. That’s why we lag so far behind in the sport is because everyone is so afraid of change. Clearly evident in the comments 😂😂😂🤦🏻♂So hilarious that the uneducated can’t even understand that it’s a huge growth area for the sport and not a replacement. Nobody is going to come confiscate their little ICE toys LOL. Almost anyone that has E bikes has ICE bikes as well. Thanks for still putting out the videos.
It’s faaaaaarr too much of a smart idea for those dorks too implement it and do a smart move like that , so unfortunately that just makes too much sense and I agree 10000% lolz
Stark doesn't dump truckloads of $$$ into Feld/MX Sports and FIM series. there's little incentive to include them. once honda's mx ebike goes to the market, I think you'll see more interest on the professional racing side. until then, you can race them at local AMA district races. the only thing that sucks for amateurs is I don't think there's a class for them for Loretta's(?). honestly, I think they still need at least one more generation of battery development. ideally, something with both more longevity on a charge but also smaller for ease of replacement. not a huge issue for a single vet rider doing one or two classes at the average local MX track (~5-6 lap motos). But 15m and 20m+ motos are another story. also would help for trail riding. if you cannot bring in a swappable battery for someone deep in the "woods," I think you're gonna have trouble penetrating the trail riding casuals who could really prop up sales. /2cents
E-Bikes are Boring! There's no Emotional Charge when watching them Racing or anytime at all! Riding them is a novelty for a little bit. But It's just a Battery!
Been to plenty of them and the racing is awesome. That is "if" you are really a race fan and about the actual racing. The #1 selling bike. Yeah, a real novelty McFly!
he says it's significantly faster. much like Matty B., he seemed to suggest that he realized he was riding at a significant disadvantage on the 2T. I hate the sound of 4T, prolly b/c I grew up with 2Ts, and the 4Ts sound like super rich 2Ts that are about to die. but the weight that 4Ts brought into the sport (including inertia with a 450 vs 250) is prolly what I dislike the most. the engine characteristics are, frankly, better on a 4T if you can get past the weight. imo ofc.
They should get them mapped differently and more accurately so it can have a legit map with around the same hp as a 450 race bike with built up race motor like a privater level motor build but not some fire breathing full on factory motor and it will be way more legit racing with the 450s and not just other vargs cause as much as I love them, it is a bit odd for no sound at the normally loudest races all year by far with racing in the arenacross buildings when it makes the bikes sound soo much more aggressive inside and also a map for 250 class and that would be huge cause 250s are way more difficult and far more expensive too build a badass motor and they are ticking time bombs and majority can’t afford too race the 250 class and the 250f map could definitely help that. Hence why 450s at sx always have way more privateer dudes in that class and not the 250s. Not having to build race motors alone is going to make it so much more affordable by a huge amount.. $50,000-$60,000 on 250s to be able to complete for the whole season with 3-4 built up motors and the cost of having to rebuild them every few races etc and that’s only the motors..
@@dakotacallebs9134 😅 I think Jane Austen and Charles Dickens would like a word, but it might be the longest I've read outside of assigned coursework. 😂
you do realize that combustion bikes are making those same sounds. they share linkages, chains, plastics, etc. it's kind of eye-opening to hear what a bike sounds like when the engine isn't there to drown it out. I do cringe at the RC car whine of the ebikes though. they need some sort of artificial sound deviced tied to their throttle position...at least for races where noise pollution isn't an issue. being so quiet is probably the strongest asset of ebikes keeping mx/sx alive (more so than the obvious fossil fuels issue).
Next let's let drones race against motorcycles. Maybe RC cars too! 😅 zwing zwing zwing slap slap slap 🙉😴 just give them their own class so fans have a set time to go get beers and take a leak.
They are actually awesome to watch. Sadly, it's low-class, uneducated, immature, people like you that actually think sexuality has anything to do with it that are the problem. Did that little E bike hurt you little Kenny?
People play D2 D3 sports, I’m sure you barely played anything in highschool what’s that make you? Useless by your standards 🫏 So much talent in the moto world & only 40 gates in the main events bud
@@panic-revv85 and it’s a blast for fans they really put on a good show and obviously the racing is always good but by this guys logic if you can’t beat Roczen and Tomac you should just quit lol
@ yeah with all that talent he shows on his TH-cam channel he shouldn’t speak about can’t make it in supercross when he couldn’t even sniff arenacross. Weekend warrior 🤡
Always loved watching Hill and Bogle rip. Hope and pray to God i never have to see them on starks again. A little bit of my love for the sport just died.
Again … anyone who promotes the e-bikes being apart of the sport will be boycotted by me and hopefully most ppl eventually .. as of now it can be a completely separate sport to be tolerated .. this will no doubt be the future replacement and imo the death of the sport bc of the gayness .. iv got every intention on making that future as far into the distance as possible and yall trying to mix them in with sport rn more and more is not going to fly with me and hopefully most fans .. the ktm challenge kids get a pass for multiple reasons .. thats it ..the rest of you, create something new and completely separate from mx and sx .. iv got tips to make it more of a show lol like microphones on the bikes so we can hear the shit talking during the racing, better than zing ziiiiing zing
Good! The sport doesn’t need Grandpa’s like you with closed minds in it. People like you are exactly what’s wrong with it. It’s a huge growth area for the sport not a replacement 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🙄Oh and tying sexuality into it just makes you sound like even more of an idiot 🤦🏻♂
@@rz912 prolly just enjoys the vibration twixt his nethers. although tbh, I only noticed that with crotch rockets (CBR F3). still...the dirt bike can numb your ass, I guess?
@RonaldAlexander-61 oh! You must be a sad man? Your trash fools got taken to the garbage. The world is sick of you & your thinking. THANK GOD THE LIBERAL WOKE TRASH IS GONE. No more trash telling people how to think.
What a totally idiotic, uninformed, irrelevant statement. It would have been much easier for you to just say I am totally clueless about the topic and what they do for the sport. Therefore, I have nothing educated to say so will just say stupid irrelevant stuff 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂Brilliant!
@@JohnJohnson-et8xh You are a true example of what the sport needs a ton less of. Uneducated people that talk about politics, sexuality, WOKE, and other totally irrelevant things to the sport because they aren't smart enough to talk about anything else. Truly sad! You can tell by your use you are totally clueless on what the true meaning of the word woke even means. Just another one that thinks they sound so utterly cool using the word LOL.
E bikes hitting whoops sounds like that Pixar light hopping around before the monsters inc movie 🤣
Blahhhhh hahahahahahahah
I was just thinking that 😂🤘
It's probably fun to ride, but man watching the ebikes just doesnt do anything for me. Wonder if you could say there is an aspect of nostalgia in the noise. But will anyone ever say the sound of an ebike whirring and clicking gets their heart rate going?
I'd say yes, but coming from my excitement being driven by the racecraft itself. I rode in my younger days, and that being a 2-stroke dominant era, 90s-early 2000s. I love all combustion engines but also recognize the value of instant torque for corner exit and gyro effectiveness. It's tough, I know, but if the battle and technique are satisfying to you, then it'll come to you, possibly
@BilobateDrip maybe it will. Honestly they will eventually just be better than combustion engines. There are aspects where they are now, like you say the torque and power. But going to a live event, hearing the bikes roar from inside the arena before you even go in. The vibration in your chest cavity while inside, the smell of the fuel in the air. It's just such a visceral experience. That paired with the racing itself. That's what gets me traveling around the country to put my ass in a seat. Because honestly you get better viewing and more information watching from the couch. I have a similar re action to watching them on YT like it's mostly just amusing. I dont hate the tech at all, just can't get myself to enjoy it
@BilobateDrip I did race too, a lot. From like 1990 to 2015 starting from age 5. Originally a big 2 stroke guy then went to the YZF 4 banger in 2004 and preferred those almost instantly after I rode it
That was the craziest leg shake ever
what was he doing or trying to do with it?
Hill is so talented on any bike.
That scoot looks so killer 🤘
The only time racers are safe on the track is when Vince Friese is in the pits!!!!!
This video felt wrong no Matty B commentary,sir fix that LMAO
Dang Matty, these guys make that 3,3,3 option look at easier than we thought it would be lol that's so crazy 💯👏🏼
That is a good track. There will be some fireworks tonight!
When the arena music is louder than the bikes, you know they're shit! 😂
I threw up in my mouth a little bit every time one of those starks went through the whoops
Riders showing up for Arenacross 👍
Two smokers forever but that stark looks like a blast to ride
Another great video!!!
Whoot,whoot,Michael Hicks with a top 5.he is our local fast boy Matty.Gotta root for Hicksy
Nice camera work and edit.
Vince cross jumped as usual and Breece was committed to the inside no brakes work in the air
Are they letting Hill race the Stuck Barge vs the regular class, or is he doing that all electric class?
Oh no emotos already. Ahhhh! Sell you all your tools! And gas cans and oil while theres still time..ahhh😂
WHAT! couldn't hear you over all the engine noise🤣🤣🤣 sorry love the concept but waiting hours for it to recharge and the noise is a big part in racing JMO of course
🤣🤣🤣. Yeah, Never knew a huge growth area to the sport could hurt so many little boy's.
@@rz912 Who is trumps pick for motoland security?
I wonder where Jared Lesher (#412) is?
Please Pipe some 2 Stroke Smoke when running E s lol
Don't let your dad see that e-bike, he'll shut the race down for safety concerns!
Friesie got peg in A... ?
Wow Man the STARK VERGZZZ look Struggle Sketch in the whoops ! yikes
Breece 3 case x3case 3case ahhh!!! my left foot airbrakes not wotkin.
U r back!
What camera are you using to get 4k and 1440p? Ty for that btw. So nice in 1440p.
AX supercross are guys who are top 15-20 guys in the AMA. It’s hard to watch lol
So great to see Arenacross stepping forward with the addition of the Varg. It has taken a lot of work. Hopefully Feld and MX Sports will actually be leaders and not followers and not be last in implementing like they are in almost everything. That’s why we lag so far behind in the sport is because everyone is so afraid of change. Clearly evident in the comments 😂😂😂🤦🏻♂So hilarious that the uneducated can’t even understand that it’s a huge growth area for the sport and not a replacement. Nobody is going to come confiscate their little ICE toys LOL. Almost anyone that has E bikes has ICE bikes as well. Thanks for still putting out the videos.
It’s faaaaaarr too much of a smart idea for those dorks too implement it and do a smart move like that , so unfortunately that just makes too much sense and I agree 10000% lolz
Stark doesn't dump truckloads of $$$ into Feld/MX Sports and FIM series. there's little incentive to include them. once honda's mx ebike goes to the market, I think you'll see more interest on the professional racing side. until then, you can race them at local AMA district races. the only thing that sucks for amateurs is I don't think there's a class for them for Loretta's(?). honestly, I think they still need at least one more generation of battery development. ideally, something with both more longevity on a charge but also smaller for ease of replacement. not a huge issue for a single vet rider doing one or two classes at the average local MX track (~5-6 lap motos). But 15m and 20m+ motos are another story. also would help for trail riding. if you cannot bring in a swappable battery for someone deep in the "woods," I think you're gonna have trouble penetrating the trail riding casuals who could really prop up sales. /2cents
Is the stadium empty?
it was practice.
Good video Matt. Is Josh Hill the highest ranked pro to ride the stark against gas bikes in real competition?
Holy F, it's Stark cross
Man I love and grew up racing motocross and a little supercross but wow do those e-bikes take alot of cool out of the sport!😂
I have yet to see a Stark that doesn’t look like it struggles to get through whoops. Seems like they should have zero problems blasting across them.
love to see it
ev so quiet sounds like the rear end is messed up, clackity clack, would drive me crazy sounding like that
Sounds like a POS!
Curious how well 75 and 19 do on the starks.
The sound of an electric bike going through the whoops is awful
@rz912 And they have a smell that really heightens your senses and let's you know you're alive
Why do the stark varg sound like a snowboarders knee cap when they land a jump?
Rear shock can be heard now 😂 that shit would drive me nuts
Friese should take it tonight.
1st he will run into everyone and take them out like he usually does. He is a wooose. Not a good rider.
Electric bikes gonna get stomped!! 😂😂
Who does Vince think he is? He puts every other Riders health and career on the line because he won't ride the edge? It's Safer to cheat!
First 50 GANG
Full left air-brake, lol
E-Bikes are Boring! There's no Emotional Charge when watching them Racing or anytime at all! Riding them is a novelty for a little bit. But It's just a Battery!
Been to plenty of them and the racing is awesome. That is "if" you are really a race fan and about the actual racing. The #1 selling bike. Yeah, a real novelty McFly!
OMG - get those Starks out of here!
Peters looking kinda timid on the 450 or nah?
he says it's significantly faster. much like Matty B., he seemed to suggest that he realized he was riding at a significant disadvantage on the 2T. I hate the sound of 4T, prolly b/c I grew up with 2Ts, and the 4Ts sound like super rich 2Ts that are about to die. but the weight that 4Ts brought into the sport (including inertia with a 450 vs 250) is prolly what I dislike the most. the engine characteristics are, frankly, better on a 4T if you can get past the weight. imo ofc.
Why was homie doing the stanky leg?
They should get them mapped differently and more accurately so it can have a legit map with around the same hp as a 450 race bike with built up race motor like a privater level motor build but not some fire breathing full on factory motor and it will be way more legit racing with the 450s and not just other vargs cause as much as I love them, it is a bit odd for no sound at the normally loudest races all year by far with racing in the arenacross buildings when it makes the bikes sound soo much more aggressive inside and also a map for 250 class and that would be huge cause 250s are way more difficult and far more expensive too build a badass motor and they are ticking time bombs and majority can’t afford too race the 250 class and the 250f map could definitely help that. Hence why 450s at sx always have way more privateer dudes in that class and not the 250s. Not having to build race motors alone is going to make it so much more affordable by a huge amount.. $50,000-$60,000 on 250s to be able to complete for the whole season with 3-4 built up motors and the cost of having to rebuild them every few races etc and that’s only the motors..
that was one of the longest sentences I have ever read.
@@dakotacallebs9134 😅 I think Jane Austen and Charles Dickens would like a word, but it might be the longest I've read outside of assigned coursework. 😂
The electric bikes sound Awful, get them off all tracks
Did those bikes hurt you little Johnny?
1:41😂 clanking bike sounds like a POS
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you do realize that combustion bikes are making those same sounds. they share linkages, chains, plastics, etc. it's kind of eye-opening to hear what a bike sounds like when the engine isn't there to drown it out. I do cringe at the RC car whine of the ebikes though. they need some sort of artificial sound deviced tied to their throttle position...at least for races where noise pollution isn't an issue. being so quiet is probably the strongest asset of ebikes keeping mx/sx alive (more so than the obvious fossil fuels issue).
Cooksey is there.
Who cares
@kurtheidelbach You, obviously.
@@zsrmx1 Uh...No, not at all
Big thumbs down 👎👎 on the E-Bike class. Its a snooze fest !! It sounds like metal on metal going through the whoops !! 🤭
Next let's let drones race against motorcycles. Maybe RC cars too! 😅 zwing zwing zwing slap slap slap 🙉😴 just give them their own class so fans have a set time to go get beers and take a leak.
Aww how cute the arena across is letting the 🌈 bikes race
Absolutely, no exciting in electric bikes
Lolololol!!!!
The Biden class!
Here, Here, Here! Bravo,Bravo ! Very well said!!
They are actually awesome to watch. Sadly, it's low-class, uneducated, immature, people like you that actually think sexuality has anything to do with it that are the problem. Did that little E bike hurt you little Kenny?
@@rz912 sad sad loser. The whole is sick of people like you.
@rz912 little sad sad loser that the world showed you are a moron. Your way of thinking is trash. Bye bye trash boy.
Arena cross are for the people that are 1) washed up in supercross or 2) can’t make it in supercross.
Okay cool
It's actually pretty fun for us locals to get out and ride these races too. Don't bag on guys who actually go out there and do it.
People play D2 D3 sports, I’m sure you barely played anything in highschool what’s that make you? Useless by your standards 🫏 So much talent in the moto world & only 40 gates in the main events bud
@@panic-revv85 and it’s a blast for fans they really put on a good show and obviously the racing is always good but by this guys logic if you can’t beat Roczen and Tomac you should just quit lol
@ yeah with all that talent he shows on his TH-cam channel he shouldn’t speak about can’t make it in supercross when he couldn’t even sniff arenacross. Weekend warrior 🤡
Always loved watching Hill and Bogle rip. Hope and pray to God i never have to see them on starks again. A little bit of my love for the sport just died.
Again … anyone who promotes the e-bikes being apart of the sport will be boycotted by me and hopefully most ppl eventually .. as of now it can be a completely separate sport to be tolerated .. this will no doubt be the future replacement and imo the death of the sport bc of the gayness .. iv got every intention on making that future as far into the distance as possible and yall trying to mix them in with sport rn more and more is not going to fly with me and hopefully most fans .. the ktm challenge kids get a pass for multiple reasons .. thats it ..the rest of you, create something new and completely separate from mx and sx .. iv got tips to make it more of a show lol like microphones on the bikes so we can hear the shit talking during the racing, better than zing ziiiiing zing
Good! The sport doesn’t need Grandpa’s like you with closed minds in it. People like you are exactly what’s wrong with it. It’s a huge growth area for the sport not a replacement 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🙄Oh and tying sexuality into it just makes you sound like even more of an idiot 🤦🏻♂
@@rz912 prolly just enjoys the vibration twixt his nethers. although tbh, I only noticed that with crotch rockets (CBR F3). still...the dirt bike can numb your ass, I guess?
The e bike class is like biden/harris. Just pure trash.
@RonaldAlexander-61 oh! You must be a sad man? Your trash fools got taken to the garbage. The world is sick of you & your thinking. THANK GOD THE LIBERAL WOKE TRASH IS GONE. No more trash telling people how to think.
What a totally idiotic, uninformed, irrelevant statement. It would have been much easier for you to just say I am totally clueless about the topic and what they do for the sport. Therefore, I have nothing educated to say so will just say stupid irrelevant stuff 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂Brilliant!
@@rz912 sad sad loser. Now your lashing out at what the world showed correct. Are you a sad trans person?
@@JohnJohnson-et8xh you don't think conservatives are invested in telling ppl what to think as well? 🙄
@@JohnJohnson-et8xh You are a true example of what the sport needs a ton less of. Uneducated people that talk about politics, sexuality, WOKE, and other totally irrelevant things to the sport because they aren't smart enough to talk about anything else. Truly sad! You can tell by your use you are totally clueless on what the true meaning of the word woke even means. Just another one that thinks they sound so utterly cool using the word LOL.