The actual crash occurred when the plane ran into a cement wall stupidly placed at the end of the runway. If this idiocy had not been done, most or all of these passengers would still be alive. Who thought that placing a heavy cement wall at the end of a runway was a great idea? These people need to be held responsible.
Didn’t realize there were so many plane crash experts in the comment section after watching a 3 min video. RIP to these innocent lives and condolences to their families 🙏🏻
International airports around the world do not have concrete wall at the end of the runway. SOUTH KOREAN authorities and government should remove the concrete wall at the end of the runway to prevent another untoward incident to happen in the future.
Many have focus on the wall issue. Many also believe that without it, the plane would have more overrun space and possibly stop with many lives saved. I beg to differ as the existing site conditions after the overrun space is not level and same as the airport. The plane would side swipe or worst, flip over, as it was going at speed. An accident happened several years ago in the US when a plane stall and crosses over a road, under carriage hitting a car, that was in the flight path of the airport. Many also forgot an airport that is built with the mountain as the end of runway. The mountain is the overrun space absolutely and many have been flying in and out of that airport. Don't get me wrong, I am not implying nothing wrong with that wall been there but there is more than meet the eyes at this time. Let's wait for the official investigation report.
Reading all the comments it seems that everybody is missing the point here. Of course the wall should not have been there even though it is apparently 200 m. from the runway. But the main questions remain. What happened to the plane after the bird strike and why did the landing seem rushed without preparation on either the aircraft and the airfield. Hopefully the flight recorders and the control tower tapes can provide some answers because it is a strange one. RIP to all the victims.
@@peterremkes9376 YES!!! IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG ISSUE HERE. Yes, the concrete wall exists, but it’s at a safe distance and within the recommended overshooting zone. The real question is: why did the pilots make such contradictory decisions? 1. The flaps were retracted, which suggests they were considering a go-around. 2. Yet, the plane was already in a landing position-proper angle of attack-and reverse thrust was engaged, showing intent to land. 3. Most importantly, why was the landing gear not deployed? The landing gear system on the Boeing 737 is foolproof, can be deployed manually in seconds, and doesn’t rely on hydraulics or electricity. Here’s the critical part: the pilot landed with 1,600 meters of runway plus 250 meters of safety zone (recommended by RESA) available. Had the landing gear been deployed, the plane could have stopped safely, avoiding this tragedy altogether. The focus should be on these actions and decisions, not just the existence of the concrete wall. This incident feels avoidable with proper execution of basic procedures.
YES WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG ISSUE HERE. Yes, the concrete wall exists, but it’s at a safe distance and within the recommended overshooting zone. The real question is: why did the pilots make such contradictory decisions? 1. The flaps were retracted, which suggests they were considering a go-around. 2. Yet, the plane was already in a landing position-proper angle of attack-and reverse thrust was engaged, showing intent to land. 3. Most importantly, why was the landing gear not deployed? The landing gear system on the Boeing 737 is foolproof, can be deployed manually in seconds, and doesn’t rely on hydraulics or electricity. Here’s the critical part: the pilot landed with 1,600 meters of runway plus 250 meters of safety zone (recommended by RESA) available. Had the landing gear been deployed, the plane could have stopped safely, avoiding this tragedy altogether. The focus should be on these actions and decisions, not just the existence of the concrete wall. This incident feels avoidable with proper execution of basic procedures.
the one who have installed the unsual wall must take reaponsibilty not the bird nor the landing gear would have been different story if that wall werent there
Manual lowering of the landing gear have already been said pilots can do that operate the same aircraft. WHY were they not lowered? You'd have brakes then.
Wrong -- an airliner approaching the airport perimeter on the ground at 150 mph is a non-survivable crash. Any survivors is a near-miracle. I have reviewed GMSV. Beyond the ILS array -- -- 200 feet to concrete wall that marks the airport perimeter -- 900, 1,100 and 1,400 feet to series of buildings -- 350 feet to road and embankment Any of these would tear apart a plane moving that fast.
@@alanstevens1296 completely agree with you and the last comment in this video that at this speed even without wall still it will crash soon or later. Look at its body crashed the ground with all the small frames eventually it will be in fire. Also the ending of runna way will be in the farm and to the ocean, the airplane might finally crashed into sea water 💦! Something so wrong on this airplane before landing 🛬😔
That wall only made the deaths quicker. A plane of that size moving at 200mph on its belly was gonna end badly regardless if a wall was there or not. Better to protect the people outside of the airport
But that's only with an airfield ER supports around prepared earlier when running out of 100+ passengers all in 90 seconds. However if the pilot even couldn't stop or slower the speed, how could they survive? Any common sense? 😛 @lawrence
End of run way end of lives of many people onboard with that plane, no one think when they put up that wall, that comes a time it will endanger the plane running to that run way. Oh its very sad who made that walls that made a reason to killed many people.
The wall was built for a different reason because on the other side is traffic, the pilot had a choice to slow down the aircraft and its not the bird or the wall that caused the accident nor the pilot or airline crews but something is off so I pray that the investigation find that black box that records everything from the cockpit.
The actual crash occurred when the plane ran into a cement wall stupidly placed at the end of the runway. If this idiocy had not been done, most or all of these passengers would still be alive. Who thought that placing a heavy cement wall at the end of a runway was a great idea? These people need to be held responsible.
Apparently, the plane was heading down the runway in the reverse direction of what is normally done, but what idiot puts a solid cement wall on either end of a runway. It goes totally against the usual design of these things.
This runaway is it for landing or take off? And if the landing gears are not working the plane was suppose to circle around in the air why did the pilot land the plane? If they said the plane hit a bird now they need to make a fence that they will put in front of those big planes engines like the ones we put in front of the radiators of trucks and cars so that nothing will disturb the engine 🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼
The pilot and the plane headed into the take off runway, wrong. But he might not have choices. It's ER! We could see from the side glass window that he's tried the hardest way to push the gear or something tech to stop or slow the speed, but unable, finally hit the wall, ending quicker than later, still will be crash at this sup speed. Additionally, the airfield not prepared any ER too, so crashed later into farm, would creat the same results. 😢😮
Millions of aircraft have landed safely at that airport without hitting the wall. Not a good place to put the wall, but totally unavoidable . As a retired ATP with over 10000 hours in DC8 I can tell you 100% pilot error. They did everything wrong . I've flown that aircraft too. They could put the gear down manually. AND slipped it in to loose airspeed. They landed long and with a tailwind. Pilot error.
An airliner approaching the airport perimeter on the ground at 150 mph is a non-survivable crash. Any survivors is a near-miracle. I have reviewed GMSV. Beyond the ILS array -- -- 200 feet to concrete wall that marks the airport perimeter -- 900, 1,100 and 1,400 feet to series of buildings -- 350 feet to road and embankment Any of these would tear apart a plane moving that fast.
*for the last time - the wall was not the problem bec it was at the beginning of the runway not at end of the runway, the plane came from the wrong side*
Then why does it have a name (19 instead of 01)? Many airports have runways that go both ways; they are given different numbers. This one has 2 different numbers, ergo, 2 ways of landing.
Not bird, not wall but the Boeing plane landing gear & brakes system not working that cause the plane already landed safely out of control hit the concrete wall…
Yes, but the plane made a beautiful safe landing, even with those things not working, the plane would of ran out of steam eventually, but the concrete wall, was what really killed them, if not for that wall; they would be still alive.
@@Venerian2023 Every runway should have a run-Off area... So I would blame the FAA for not inspecting runways and ordering the removal of the wall.... Big Question, When was the airport last inspected by the FAA? The wall is a result of the crash not the cause of it.........
An airliner approaching the airport perimeter on the ground at 150 mph is a non-survivable crash. Any survivors is a near-miracle. I have reviewed GMSV. Beyond the ILS array -- -- 200 feet to concrete wall that marks the airport perimeter -- 900, 1,100 and 1,400 feet to series of buildings -- 350 feet to road and embankment Any of these would tear apart a plane moving that fast.
Now the Koreans must change the name of the airport from Muan Airport to Airport 179 in commemoration of the innocent and pure blood that watered the airport's land, and a memorial should be made for the souls of the innocent victims by placing a large marble plaque at the airport entrance with the names, pictures and ages of the 179 victims, and some pieces of concrete that led to the plane crash. This is the least the Korean government can do to commemorate the innocent victims.R.I.P, may God put all your souls in heaven, Amen 이제 한국은 무안공항에서 공항 179로 공항 이름을 바꿔야 합니다. 공항의 땅을 적신 무고하고 순수한 피를 기념하기 위해서입니다. 그리고 공항 입구에 179명의 희생자들의 이름, 사진, 나이를 적은 큰 대리석 명판과 비행기 추락 사고로 이어진 콘크리트 조각을 놓아 무고한 희생자들의 영혼을 추모하는 추모비를 만들어야 합니다. 이것이 한국 정부가 무고한 희생자들을 추모하기 위해 할 수 있는 최소한의 일입니다. R.I.P., 신께서 여러분의 모든 영혼을 천국에 두시기를 바랍니다. 아멘.
Only makes sense a wall would cause a horrific crash🤔
My condolences to all the victims families and friends🙏
@@GreggsonWong El problema del muro ?? O del fallo del avión, sin muro? Donde hubiera chocado con esa velocidad??
The actual crash occurred when the plane ran into a cement wall stupidly placed at the end of the runway. If this idiocy had not been done, most or all of these passengers would still be alive. Who thought that placing a heavy cement wall at the end of a runway was a great idea? These people need to be held responsible.
Yes that Father said " My daughter almost "HOME" but didnt make it . 😢 So heartbreaking 😢
No Wall No Dead .
Didn’t realize there were so many plane crash experts in the comment section after watching a 3 min video. RIP to these innocent lives and condolences to their families 🙏🏻
International airports around the world do not have concrete wall at the end of the runway. SOUTH KOREAN authorities and government should remove the concrete wall at the end of the runway to prevent another untoward incident to happen in the future.
exactly if there was no wall the pilot could have saved all the passengers
Many have focus on the wall issue. Many also believe that without it, the plane would have more overrun space and possibly stop with many lives saved. I beg to differ as the existing site conditions after the overrun space is not level and same as the airport. The plane would side swipe or worst, flip over, as it was going at speed. An accident happened several years ago in the US when a plane stall and crosses over a road, under carriage hitting a car, that was in the flight path of the airport. Many also forgot an airport that is built with the mountain as the end of runway. The mountain is the overrun space absolutely and many have been flying in and out of that airport. Don't get me wrong, I am not implying nothing wrong with that wall been there but there is more than meet the eyes at this time. Let's wait for the official investigation report.
Dokładnie tak samo roztrzaskał się samolot Lufthansy w Warszawie w 1993 roku (lufthansa 2904 crash )
THERE SHOULD BE NO WALL. IN CASE THE PLANE WENT OUT OF CONTROL.
So if it’s the bird that caused the engine failure then it will be in the black box once the investigation is done. 😢
Reading all the comments it seems that everybody is missing the point here. Of course the wall should not have been there even though it is apparently 200 m. from the runway. But the main questions remain. What happened to the plane after the bird strike and why did the landing seem rushed without preparation on either the aircraft and the airfield. Hopefully the flight recorders and the control tower tapes can provide some answers because it is a strange one. RIP to all the victims.
@@peterremkes9376 YES!!! IT FEELS LIKE
WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG ISSUE HERE. Yes, the concrete wall exists, but it’s at a safe distance and within the recommended overshooting zone. The real question is: why did the pilots make such contradictory decisions?
1. The flaps were retracted, which suggests they were considering a go-around.
2. Yet, the plane was already in a landing position-proper angle of attack-and reverse thrust was engaged, showing intent to land.
3. Most importantly, why was the landing gear not deployed? The landing gear system on the Boeing 737 is foolproof, can be deployed manually in seconds, and doesn’t rely on hydraulics or electricity.
Here’s the critical part: the pilot landed with 1,600 meters of runway plus 250 meters of safety zone (recommended by RESA) available. Had the landing gear been deployed, the plane could have stopped safely, avoiding this tragedy altogether.
The focus should be on these actions and decisions, not just the existence of the concrete wall. This incident feels avoidable with proper execution of basic procedures.
YES
WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG ISSUE HERE. Yes, the concrete wall exists, but it’s at a safe distance and within the recommended overshooting zone. The real question is: why did the pilots make such contradictory decisions?
1. The flaps were retracted, which suggests they were considering a go-around.
2. Yet, the plane was already in a landing position-proper angle of attack-and reverse thrust was engaged, showing intent to land.
3. Most importantly, why was the landing gear not deployed? The landing gear system on the Boeing 737 is foolproof, can be deployed manually in seconds, and doesn’t rely on hydraulics or electricity.
Here’s the critical part: the pilot landed with 1,600 meters of runway plus 250 meters of safety zone (recommended by RESA) available. Had the landing gear been deployed, the plane could have stopped safely, avoiding this tragedy altogether.
The focus should be on these actions and decisions, not just the existence of the concrete wall. This incident feels avoidable with proper execution of basic procedures.
the one who have installed the unsual wall must take reaponsibilty
not the bird nor the landing gear
would have been different story if that wall werent there
The investigation could be divided in two parts: assessment of QRH C/L running and obstacles beyond the RWY Threshold.
The plane could ram into the houses or buildings nearby. It's tragic but why the plane experienced difficulties in the first place.
Manual lowering of the landing gear have already been said pilots can do that operate the same aircraft. WHY were they not lowered? You'd have brakes then.
WALL? WHERE IS UR COMMON SENSE.
Wrong -- an airliner approaching the airport perimeter on the ground at 150 mph is a non-survivable crash. Any survivors is a near-miracle.
I have reviewed GMSV.
Beyond the ILS array --
-- 200 feet to concrete wall that marks the airport perimeter
-- 900, 1,100 and 1,400 feet to series of buildings
-- 350 feet to road and embankment
Any of these would tear apart a plane moving that fast.
@@alanstevens1296 completely agree with you and the last comment in this video that at this speed even without wall still it will crash soon or later. Look at its body crashed the ground with all the small frames eventually it will be in fire. Also the ending of runna way will be in the farm and to the ocean, the airplane might finally crashed into sea water 💦! Something so wrong on this airplane before landing 🛬😔
@@explorerofunknownworlddept6232
Yes indeed, and I don't know why so many posters are obsessed with this ILS berm.
Looks like your ment to go down the runway the other way as there are arrows that point that way and plenty of run off if things do go wrong
That wall only made the deaths quicker. A plane of that size moving at 200mph on its belly was gonna end badly regardless if a wall was there or not. Better to protect the people outside of the airport
Nope, same thing happened before and everyone survived because there was no wall.
But that's only with an airfield ER supports around prepared earlier when running out of 100+ passengers all in 90 seconds. However if the pilot even couldn't stop or slower the speed, how could they survive? Any common sense? 😛 @lawrence
@ what about when they hit the building just past the hill?
End of run way end of lives of many people onboard with that plane, no one think when they put up that wall, that comes a time it will endanger the plane running to that run way. Oh its very sad who made that walls that made a reason to killed many people.
The wall was built for a different reason because on the other side is traffic, the pilot had a choice to slow down the aircraft and its not the bird or the wall that caused the accident nor the pilot or airline crews but something is off so I pray that the investigation find that black box that records everything from the cockpit.
Agree.. it is more than birds or wall
Either pilot panicked or some manual not working
Both sides can land aircrafts.
Nonsense there is nothing to do with the wall the plane got no landing gear at all ??? 😂
The actual crash occurred when the plane ran into a cement wall stupidly placed at the end of the runway. If this idiocy had not been done, most or all of these passengers would still be alive. Who thought that placing a heavy cement wall at the end of a runway was a great idea? These people need to be held responsible.
The plane was perfectly fine and completely intact until it hit that cement wall.
Forget the wall, planes have landed on that runway without problems there for years, WHY question it now.
Apparently, the plane was heading down the runway in the reverse direction of what is normally done, but what idiot puts a solid cement wall on either end of a runway. It goes totally against the usual design of these things.
Don’t blame contric blame failure
This runaway is it for landing or take off?
And if the landing gears are not working the plane was suppose to circle around in the air why did the pilot land the plane?
If they said the plane hit a bird now they need to make a fence that they will put in front of those big planes engines like the ones we put in front of the radiators of trucks and cars so that nothing will disturb the engine 🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼
The pilot and the plane headed into the take off runway, wrong. But he might not have choices. It's ER! We could see from the side glass window that he's tried the hardest way to push the gear or something tech to stop or slow the speed, but unable, finally hit the wall, ending quicker than later, still will be crash at this sup speed. Additionally, the airfield not prepared any ER too, so crashed later into farm, would creat the same results. 😢😮
100% pilot error
@@ThomasWakefield-g8e Don’t judge unless you’ve the facts.
100% wall
@lawrencedavidson6195 land too fast and meet the wall. 100%pilot error
Millions of aircraft have landed safely at that airport without hitting the wall. Not a good place to put the wall, but totally unavoidable . As a retired ATP with over 10000 hours in DC8 I can tell you 100% pilot error. They did everything wrong . I've flown that aircraft too. They could put the gear down manually. AND slipped it in to loose airspeed. They landed long and with a tailwind. Pilot error.
An airliner approaching the airport perimeter on the ground at 150 mph is a non-survivable crash. Any survivors is a near-miracle.
I have reviewed GMSV.
Beyond the ILS array --
-- 200 feet to concrete wall that marks the airport perimeter
-- 900, 1,100 and 1,400 feet to series of buildings
-- 350 feet to road and embankment
Any of these would tear apart a plane moving that fast.
*for the last time - the wall was not the problem bec it was at the beginning of the runway not at end of the runway, the plane came from the wrong side*
Then why does it have a name (19 instead of 01)? Many airports have runways that go both ways; they are given different numbers. This one has 2 different numbers, ergo, 2 ways of landing.
wall was designed by educated fool
in korea only
Every accident and deaths gives us guidelines to change air travel system😢😢😢😢😢
Yes I think you right as there are arrows marked on it pointing the other way and plenty of run off if things do go wrong
As an experienced senior Pilot, he should know this airport's runway well.
Cockpit recorder will reveal everything !
일본은 1985년 JAL 520명 죽였는데?
Not bird, not wall but the Boeing plane landing gear & brakes system not working that cause the plane already landed safely out of control hit the concrete wall…
Yes, but the plane made a beautiful safe landing, even with those things not working, the plane would of ran out of steam eventually, but the concrete wall, was what really killed them, if not for that wall; they would be still alive.
Nope, same thing happened before and everyone survived because there was no wall.
Always playing the blame game before all that facts are in! The wall at the end of the runway don't explain why the jet crashed.....
@@Venerian2023 Every runway should have a run-Off area... So I would blame the FAA for not inspecting runways and ordering the removal of the wall.... Big Question, When was the airport last inspected by the FAA? The wall is a result of the crash not the cause of it.........
@ChrisPatterson-d5g since when South Korea fall under the FAA jurisdiction?
@ChrisPatterson-d5g True, same thing happened before and everyone survived because there was no wall.
An airliner approaching the airport perimeter on the ground at 150 mph is a non-survivable crash. Any survivors is a near-miracle.
I have reviewed GMSV.
Beyond the ILS array --
-- 200 feet to concrete wall that marks the airport perimeter
-- 900, 1,100 and 1,400 feet to series of buildings
-- 350 feet to road and embankment
Any of these would tear apart a plane moving that fast.
Now the Koreans must change the name of the airport from Muan Airport to Airport 179 in commemoration of the innocent and pure blood that watered the airport's land, and a memorial should be made for the souls of the innocent victims by placing a large marble plaque at the airport entrance with the names, pictures and ages of the 179 victims, and some pieces of concrete that led to the plane crash. This is the least the Korean government can do to commemorate the innocent victims.R.I.P, may God put all your souls in heaven, Amen
이제 한국은 무안공항에서 공항 179로 공항 이름을 바꿔야 합니다. 공항의 땅을 적신 무고하고 순수한 피를 기념하기 위해서입니다. 그리고 공항 입구에 179명의 희생자들의 이름, 사진, 나이를 적은 큰 대리석 명판과 비행기 추락 사고로 이어진 콘크리트 조각을 놓아 무고한 희생자들의 영혼을 추모하는 추모비를 만들어야 합니다. 이것이 한국 정부가 무고한 희생자들을 추모하기 위해 할 수 있는 최소한의 일입니다. R.I.P., 신께서 여러분의 모든 영혼을 천국에 두시기를 바랍니다. 아멘.
They should be careful about