the way I see it going: the two get extremely terrified and ended up not fighting. Days later, everyone knows about how the great duel between the two strongest man in the world ended up in a tie (or everyone believing they decided not to fight because the colateral damage of their fight would be too much for the earth to handle) and everyone starts fearing the two even more since they are now considered equals to each other.
They'd stand there for some time facing off against each other without moving. The crowd would assume that they were performing mental chess to plan out every possible attack and counterattack. After they agree to a draw, the crowd goes wild believing that both fighters came to the conclusion that neither could win the fight and it would drag on through eternity.
Read this slowly. Greetings everyone, If you'd be willing to listen I have a few messages that I truly think could save your life. To Christians: remember your God in these dark ages, and remember humility comes before mercy. To those who do not stand with Christ: remember the love of your brothers toward one another, Remember the tranquility of the quiet sea and know that all these and so much more does your father in heaven own. Wake up from your slumber, and listen to the calling of God which has been present your entire life. Remember that we teach humility and compassion. Remember that these very traits give the society which you so yearn for. Remember God
They fight in a tournament. King stands there, menacingly. Mr. Satan, believing that the rumors of his strength are real: "Hey buddy, here's how this is gonna work, we're going to agree that our fight would be too dangerous for the crowd, and then we're gonna agree to a draw, split the prize money, and laugh our way back home." King: "Oh thank goodness for the first time I meet someone who isn't fucking insane."
I think those two would make interesting friends. King would get some advice on how to actually learn martial arts when everyone is afraid of your power, while Hercule gets some tips on how to stay humble.
Read this slowly. Greetings everyone, If you'd be willing to listen I have a few messages that I truly think could save your life. To Christians: remember your God in these dark ages, and remember humility comes before mercy. To those who do not stand with Christ: remember the love of your brothers toward one another, Remember the tranquility of the quiet sea and know that all these and so much more does your father in heaven own. Wake up from your slumber, and listen to the calling of God which has been present your entire life. Remember that we teach humility and compassion. Remember that these very traits give the society which you so yearn for. Remember God
@@jpraise6771 Read this slowly. All you're doing is pushing people away from your religion, your comments convince no one. The only people who like these comments are already theists, the results of your actions are antithetical to what you're trying to do in the first place. You're doing nothing but annoying people and ruining comment threads, kindly stop.
@@huh-ih5wq But don't forget Kings high luck factor. Whenever an enemy tries to get close or attacks king directly. By sheer coincidence something out of kings control will indirectly hit his would be attacker, before the attack can connect to king. Basically lets say Saitama was walking home from the store and kicks a soda can at the sky as he didn't make it to a bargain sale. Said Can travel some 20 miles away and hits Satan hard in the back of the head knocking him out.
@@silentecho92able Same thing happens with Hercule: Accidentally dodging hits, getting pushed out of danger by an intended attack, taking more damage than he should and being fine, his scared fumbling conveniently dodging blasts from an attack that *tracked and exterminated all human life on earth besides him and the people on kami's lookout* . On top of that he won several legitimate world tournaments in a world filled with people like Ox King who can walk through tank fire, mercenary tao, general blue, bruce lee, jackie chan, etc. He is able to pull 3 school busses and performed vanishing when moving too fast to see before. The problem is that a threat from Tao intimidated him into never training again so he stopped using his actual martial art and instead started relying on dirty tricks. He is basically what King would be like with powers and facial hair
@@aerodynamiccow3597 I would agree except you forgot one thing in the Majin Buu arc. When he was living with Majin Buu for a time, Mr Satan got shot by a gun used by a normal human. An that did more damage to Mr Satan then Cell comedically smacking him hard towards a mountain. An Satan would have literally died if i weren't for Majin Buu healing him a saving his life. An this gun did more damage to him then what Cell did to him.
@@apalahcokk one has the plot making the made-up ultimate attack happen just for a gag, and has Saitama under its control, somebody that's immune to all other powers, and laws of the verse. Meanwhile, Mr. Satan got lucky Buu’s a twisted goofy man-child, and thanks to having a daughter who was a superior version of Chichi, the Z Warriors had no problem helping him win. Also, he survived Cell sending him flying miles away, and landing on solid rock face-first, all because he's truly a superhuman, but without ki training, and being altered.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 thats all bcs of plot. U really think he could dodge buu who is even faster than ss3. Also since the beginning he always has plot like winning every tournament, known to be the savior of the world, etc. Just like king being known as the strongest man alive
The fight would go like this: King: We can't fight because... Our strength could shatter the entire world Satan: Absolutely agree! Also, I have a headache, so i wouldn't be able to fight with my full power anyway! King: It's settled then! *phew!* Satan: *phew!*
King doesn't really bluff as his words get miscommunicated, so it'd probably be something more like. "I won't fight you. It's far too dangerous." and everyone just assumes it meant for the surrounding people even though King meant himself
In this case, Hercule would be the form King's luck takes, as he'd immediately seize the opportunity to not fight AND spin in in a way that makes it sound like badassery is happening.
@@opossumleader3645 I get what you mean but King has bluffed before. His reputation is unwanted, yes, but in front of powerful entities he has to play it up if he wants to survive His words get accidentally taken as threats when he's trying to have normal conversations. So I guess it depends whether he's talking to Satan as a human or an enemy
King and Hurcule just standing around as things explode around them as Goku and Saitama fight faster then mortal eyes can see. Everyone just thinks the two are doing battle so fast that all you can see is them standing around after each instantaneous bout of combat.
then after a single minute Goku and Saitama just teleport to Beerus planet leaving the tournament entirely destroyed except the 2 spot king and Hercules standing and then they just either talked or just step down at the same time
I'd argue that the fight would go like this: Both fighters would hear the rumors about the other making them both extremely nervous. Upon meeting, Mr Satan begins bragging and declares King's doom. King engine activates. Mr Satan is reduced to a quivering mass and tries to pull a similar stunt as he did with Boo where he begs for king to pretend to lose for him. King, still very nervous, tries to accept but makes it sound like he won't accept defeat. Mr Satan, changing tactics begs for the appearance of a tie King agrees to this and Mr Satan explains to the camera crews that a battle between the 2 would threaten the very earth, so they've agreed to accept an amiable draw
Hercule: "Listen buddy in this town ive got a reputation to uphold, so could you throw this one for me and ill see to it your town reports you won?" King: (this is my chance to get out of my mess if everyone knows this guy is stronger than me. Ill just tell him to not fake the report) "....I cant accept that" Hercule: "I UNDERSTAND! TOTALLY UNREASONABLE OF ME, HOW ABOUT A DRAW THEN?" King: (damnit!) "....Fine."
I like how at the end he basically says “if king vs hercule is a thing then u shd consider saitama vs goku first as a scale”💀💀💀💀 indicating that king and hercule are far superior to these guys which is obviously true
@@eggyolk0 I ain't fanboying. Goku just can't survive in space, that is a fact. I love a good discussion about headcanon don't get me wrong. But Goku is much weaker (1,000 tons'ish) and he can't survive in space. Even if he could destroy the earth or heck the universe, that would be just a suicide attack (which is out of character for him)
@@Narrativerse I see. I just thought if they fought on earth or something like the Tournament of Power it would go on forever. You do have good points though.
How I see this if they actually did have a fight in a tournament they were signed up for everyone to watch. I just see both not moving, with King just staring with King’s engine beating, while Hercule just start saying bluffs and show some moves in hopes of intimidating King. These two would be afraid of one another after hearing their greatest “achievements” and fear for their lives. The audience would just see this as either they are waiting for their opponent next move, or they are moving so fast that reality isn’t processing their speed and strength. In the end a Red Ribbon Army android who has eaten a monster cell plans on killing these two during the tournament to be the world’s strongest. Only for both Saitama and Goku to show up in a huge dust cloud covering up the stadium killing this monster in one shot not noticing each other. Hercule and King see the dead corpse and assume the other killed it. The audience seeing this believe it is a tied and these two want to show how together they can protect the world from any threat. They cheer both of them on. With both King and Hercule walking up to one another shaking each other’s hand both relieved that they don’t have to fight. That how I see it would happen in canon.
@@sammcfarlane2494you should read the manga, OPK or One Punch King, the manga about the strongest hero who can beat all of his enemies in a single punch named King.
@@p0k3mn1announcer: how did you even get here? This arena is outside time and space. Caped baldie: I was fighting God, sorry for whoever I just landed on.
Jokes aside, Hercule is an actual Tournament Champion. He knows how to fight. If he was somehow put in the real world, he would be the strongest human being in history. Hercule has pull 4 buses and punch through one of them. He also ripped a phone book in half in like 2 seconds. Edit: Both Cell and Buu feats are for comic relief, Hercule is not faster than light. The most you can put him at is faster than the eye could see. Also the king engine wouldn’t work because Hercule is not a coward like he was during the Cell saga. During the Buu saga he actively went into the battlefield to get Vegeta so Goku could launch the Spirit Bomb.
Yeah, but also King Legit made a Monster straight-up Die on the spot on sheer intimidation alone. I agree that on neutral Terms Hércule negs but if we factor in reputation, it wouldn't be a lie to say Satan just finds a way to dip by faking a pain or something. Edit:also depending on if you think King unwilling summon and meta luck counts as a Character power, the moment there's a threat to him the universe will just send in the Strongest being advaliable to his aid.
And Hercules would Shit His pants the Second He Hears the King engine, after all Kings intimidation feats are through the roof, reffering to how even characters who are very capable of sensing their opponents strength piss their pants at His sight
More like the greatest fraud Vs the luckiest liar Because King just a regular person and didn't even know basic martial arts, he just lucky some bulsiht appeared out of nowhere to help his situation While Mr. Satan in other hand is famous skilled fighter on earth and keep lying to everyone if he's the true saviour of earth But still he's one of greatest normal human on earth compared to average citizen
I find it funny that people think Hercule would ever be afraid of King. Either he would consider King to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors which it really is. Or even if he thought King was that much stronger Hercule would still fight, the Buu arc is the best way to show this, as you can see Mr.Satan despite his fear solo Kid Buu, (who he had just seen kill everyone on Earth). So unless some insane luck just randomly happens, which I'm disregarding for the fight. Hercule gets that epic victory royale.
@rattled6732 It hasn't been confirmed as canon, more of a gag, and if we include character gags Hercule still wins as he was able to dodge buus attacks in a similar fashion. He wouldn't be like Kings other opponents, I think that he'd just bumrush him after a bit of intro and trash talk, even if he did think it was all true.
Bruh why are people like that only in DBZ fan base? Any other fan base doesn't really care about their characters losing to characters from other verses, but DBZ fans always will argue in comments for no reason to prove their verse is superior
well satan could easily take care of king within seconds due to his physical abiltiies like martial abilities and such but i do agree with you since king's luck would be greater than satan's, the engine starting would give a heartattack to satan prob
I adore that King’s plot manipulation and luck is so powerful it affects the meta. My favorite are the polls that include genuinely broken and powerful characters submitting to the King’s Engine 🙌🏽
I haven't caught up to the OPM manga to read the part where King survives the cosmic radiation, but if his power is 'luck', it could simply be said (in the wacky logic if the OPM universe) that the cosmic rays luckily didn't hit him enough/in the right spots to cause long term harm. Now that's some major troll science, but if we're being honest, that's par for the course even in more serious 'superhero' comics
they just wouldn't fight King and Satan would have a stare down for like 10 minutes then King would be like this is boring me and somehow the crowd would just accept they were evenly matched or the fight happened so fast that they couldn't see who won or something along those lines.
9:42 Can still be luck. Radiation is tiny particle stuf f and tiny = quantum = random = luck, so luck with tiny particle means tiny particle no hit him.
Everyone brings up King's quantifiable luck power, but I'd argue Satan has some kind of luck power as well given how much he's cheated death in his life, from being thrown into a mountain by Cell, to accidentally befriending Buu which helped him be one of the only survivors of an attack that literally killed everyone else on Earth.
Nobody is mentioning that alien invasion during the famous goku flying with the tractor scene and somehow even without z fighters Satan survived that😂.
Plus isn't Hercule the only human in dragonball who hasn't died, he survived majin buu's mass extinction of humanity but he survived so he was the only one who did, he did die when frieza blew up earth in super but time was rewinded
@@zillasaiyan1m274if we're counting super, then I believe he die when Frieza blew up the earth and even then I think we have good reason to believe that he would've died in the alternate trunks timeline.
Completely agree, King seems to have a actual luck based power set or some sort of probability manipulation that in universe effects everyone other than Saitama, meanwhile Hercule is just a really good conman, events aren’t arranging themselves to trick people stronger than him, he has to lie bribe and keep up the charade actively.
I agree and disagree. It affects everyone that believes in his reputation For example it didn't affect the robot from s2 since he just didn't care. And I can argue that Satan also has luck based powers like him actually luckily surviving an entire invasion of aliens to fight mr Satan the "strongest" specifically without z fighters in dragon ball super.
Fiction does have things like The Lake Of Axplexia, The Lord Of Nightmares, Kami Tenchi, Yogg'Sothoth, The Goddess Manifold, The White Light, The Ultra Gods Belus, Toilya and Tsyubasiya, etc......
I'd imagine their "fight" would be a series of gags as Hercule tries to avoid fighting Demon Engine King by getting him into deadly scenarios (like giving him a game console that's a bomb) while King miraculous evades death multiple times, eventually culminating in the two getting worn out from their attempts at the "fight" until they both pass out.
I like my head canon idea that King is a reality warper, OR he has insanely high levels of charisma and he’s just rolling nat 20’s like he’s in DnD, who doesn’t realize he is, and it really only kicks in when he’s in danger.
The King Engine triggers a psychic ability to paralyze many potential adversaries with total fear which causes them not to fight King. We saw this with that one Lizard Man who saw it was King, felt the effect of the King Engine and surrendered.
As a counterpoint to your Luck reasoning, Kings luck eventually ran out. He ACTUALLY died because of Garou's radiation. Mr Satan never died, no matter what happened around him. So i would argue that Kings luck has a limit that Mr Satans does not
Even with King's super intimidation, Hercule still stood up to Buu, and in the GT version of the timeline, he stood up to Great Ape Baby and Omege Shenron even taking a no nonsense Kick from Omega and got back up.
GT at this point really is just a fanfic that made it to tv.. Like, it has plenty of amazing moments but it feels more like a fan story than anything official. Same thing with Heroes. It just falls short of the spirit that Akira Toriyama gave the franchise.
I think king genuinely has uncanny luck as a superpower, by definition, he wouldn't be aware of it or capable of controlling it though If there were an actual fight, theyd both try to avoid actual conflict and probably become friends
I think a battle between the two would start with Hercule calling King out as the strongest and demanding they fight for the title. King would try to avoid the confrontation, but accidentally walk into the arena Hercule had set up. Before they fight however, a third entity from either verse would appear in the sidelines and cause Hercule to suffer one of his patented Hercule Stomach aches, having him call off the fight. Fans witnessing it (and Hercule himself later) would say that the fighters sensed each other's sheer power and came to a silent acknowledgement of each other as equals without a single punch landing.
Great vid, but pls don’t do Saitama vs Goku because it’s just a to big of a controversy to talk about I’ve been watching your vids for a while now and all of them are great.
Here’s how I see it. Using feats, Goku slams hard. Very very hard. Using statements and whats only been shown on screen, Saitama washes hard. Goku prefers to get his salad tossed to power up and gauge his opponent’s strength. Saitama doesn’t, he holds back which for some reason isn’t enough to not oneshot everyone in his verse
Have you not read the one punch man manga? He literally has a definitive scale of power when he fought Garou. He wasnt even solar system level when he first began fighting garou, so I dont see how it is even a "wash". I really hate fanboys who dont even read their own manga, not even dragonball fans are that stupid.@@Blue_Punch_Buggy224
@@yeikelamores6085 Saitama’s whole thing is punching everyone and everything onscreen. Its a stupid argument and I hate it, but in the world of One Punch Man, and how Saitama work’s currently there’s nobody strong enough to actually survive one of his punches.
Hercule was brave enough to walk towards Perfect Cell to deliver Android 16’s head AFTER seeing how strong he was. Hercule is NOT too scared to run up at King.
9:33 it's pretty simple actually, his sheer luck made every single particle move out of his way instead of hitting him, quantum mechanics can do that sort of thing, Its like John Constantine in DC, his luck sometimes is so great reality will just warp to fit his needs/desires. King is like that but not a douchebag like Constantine often is
I think it depends on the setting. If its a tournament of any kind, I 100% believe that Hercule would take the win as his reputation being on the line would outweigh any level of intimidation or doubt King could create through his luck factor alone. However if the fight were to take place in a private location away from public eyes, I believe Hercule would actually just surrender to King and beg for mercy due to King's sheer intimidation. Location is what decides this fight.
TBH i really believe that so if in a tournament, but due to King Luck he would try to be honest and say something like " This is dangerous... let's not do it " refeering that this is to dangerous for himself and Hercule simply taking the oportunity to lie to the public and say that the battle would be to dangerous for the world or smt like that, everything for plot sake
I can literally hear in my head right now, and Mr. Satan’s voice, “ what’s that pounding?!?! Is that coming from him?? Oh, crap! I bet he’s one of them aliens just like cool videls husband! I’ve gotta get outta here!!!”
Most likely, they would just stare at each other, King offers to end things there, Hercule agrees, and everyone thinks they must have fought so fast they couldn't see anything.
For some reason it feels like King would win, once his "King Engine" starts it begins a psychological effect of person who faces him to second guess his life, there's been cases where some even simply stopped living because they couldn't handle the pressure of Kindgs heart
People always seem to forget that Mr. Satan won several World Martial Arts Tournaments fairly when the Z fighters were not participating. The guy was the actual best in the world in his time, and only started to look silly when aliens/monsters/robots started participating again. King is just a fit nerd who probably hits the gym a few times a week.
king's power is basically luck. He would NOT get hurt, no matter what. No one, or nothing could hurt him, either because of his menacing appearance OR just luck, depends what happens. That's king's power in like a few sentences, or idk.
well king's luck would only work in his universe right? I suppose if king were to fight mr satan in the dbz universe he would lose and if in the opm universe he would win
@@yeikelamores6085and time was reversed so did it really happen ? Or you could say he’s just that lucky that his defeat never really happened due to the time rewind
Based on what I've seen, Hercule is ballsy enough that he would be able to withstand the King Engine and see through to King not being that strong. After that, Hercule would just shake his hand and ask if he wanted to go out and get some food.
It kind of depends on when they meet. Hercule genuinely believed that he was the worlds strongest and that supernatural powers didnt exist before Cell, maybe even up until Buu. So at that time, he would fight King and Hercule is a real good fighter. After that though, he would make a deal with King and King would of course agree to it. So either way, Hercule wins its just how it comes about.
Make king having reality manipulation powers canon. Its just too perfect. A man not knowing how he makes people believe he's 5ge strongest while not realizing he has a reality manipulation ability, very cool ironically.
I think the biggest difference is how they are perceived by their enemies. For the most part, those Mr Satan has faced can see through his act and regard him as little more than an annoyance. Cell tossed him aside like a used Kleenex. On the other hand, King has saved the day just on the rumors alone. Even the Cadres psyched themselves into inaction for fear of what King might do to them.
i think mr satan wouldn't be fooled by king, and would taunt him by saying "heh, ill let you have the first hit, you look terrified" king would then think "if i don't hit hard enough maybe ill be laughed off the arena" so he goes for a light tap on hercules shoulder. hercule suddenly gets a massive cramp in said shoulder due to working out, and screams out in pain begging for the pain to stop. hercule is reminded of goku and co, and immidiately comes up with an excuse to avoid fighting out of fear.
So, if im understanding these two correctly, the fights between these two actually change depending on how many times these two face off. The first set of matchups are "ties" by mutual "forfiet"until they're both backed into a corner and forced to fight for real. King wins this next set every time, but Hercule will claim bad luck, or king got lucky. Someone eventually believes this to be true and sets out to change that either by making hercule luckier or removing king's. Once that happens King gets wrecked.
imagining an actual battle. kings engine and reputation would intimidate Mr Satan into making up an excuse as to why he has to leave(an emergency shit/stomach ache like he does in the bojack movie). so even if Mr Satan is more powerful King wins via battle field removal
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@@lorddoomer7271Before he summons Gohan
Yeah King always wins, he even beat Saitama and Zeno.
@@Azaleus19 that's nothing against our champ Satan!
the way I see it going:
the two get extremely terrified and ended up not fighting.
Days later, everyone knows about how the great duel between the two strongest man in the world ended up in a tie (or everyone believing they decided not to fight because the colateral damage of their fight would be too much for the earth to handle) and everyone starts fearing the two even more since they are now considered equals to each other.
They'd stand there for some time facing off against each other without moving. The crowd would assume that they were performing mental chess to plan out every possible attack and counterattack. After they agree to a draw, the crowd goes wild believing that both fighters came to the conclusion that neither could win the fight and it would drag on through eternity.
@@-Keith- *that the fight would be too dangerous for the crowd, as they were too close to the arena for them to fight, even holding back
When the stoppable force meets the movable object.
Oof
unstoppable object vs immovable force
@@mikadosannoji553 congrats, you missed the joke
Read this slowly.
Greetings everyone, If you'd be willing to listen I have a few messages that I truly think could save your life. To Christians: remember your God in these dark ages, and remember humility comes before mercy.
To those who do not stand with Christ: remember the love of your brothers toward one another, Remember the tranquility of the quiet sea and know that all these and so much more does your father in heaven own. Wake up from your slumber, and listen to the calling of God which has been present your entire life.
Remember that we teach humility and compassion. Remember that these very traits give the society which you so yearn for. Remember God
@@jpraise6771 Amen. 🙏
They fight in a tournament.
King stands there, menacingly.
Mr. Satan, believing that the rumors of his strength are real: "Hey buddy, here's how this is gonna work, we're going to agree that our fight would be too dangerous for the crowd, and then we're gonna agree to a draw, split the prize money, and laugh our way back home."
King: "Oh thank goodness for the first time I meet someone who isn't fucking insane."
this so much
I think those two would make interesting friends. King would get some advice on how to actually learn martial arts when everyone is afraid of your power, while Hercule gets some tips on how to stay humble.
Read this slowly.
Greetings everyone, If you'd be willing to listen I have a few messages that I truly think could save your life. To Christians: remember your God in these dark ages, and remember humility comes before mercy.
To those who do not stand with Christ: remember the love of your brothers toward one another, Remember the tranquility of the quiet sea and know that all these and so much more does your father in heaven own. Wake up from your slumber, and listen to the calling of God which has been present your entire life.
Remember that we teach humility and compassion. Remember that these very traits give the society which you so yearn for. Remember God
@@jpraise6771 Read this slowly.
All you're doing is pushing people away from your religion, your comments convince no one. The only people who like these comments are already theists, the results of your actions are antithetical to what you're trying to do in the first place. You're doing nothing but annoying people and ruining comment threads, kindly stop.
This is exactly how story would go
Prediction: Hercule wrecks in a real fight but has a heart attack from King's max intimidation
i honestly think that Satan with social pressure could try at least throw a karate chop
@@MugiKotoboki lmao yeah he will probably throw at least 1 punch to king, since he tried to attack cell
@@huh-ih5wq But don't forget Kings high luck factor. Whenever an enemy tries to get close or attacks king directly. By sheer coincidence something out of kings control will indirectly hit his would be attacker, before the attack can connect to king. Basically lets say Saitama was walking home from the store and kicks a soda can at the sky as he didn't make it to a bargain sale. Said Can travel some 20 miles away and hits Satan hard in the back of the head knocking him out.
@@silentecho92able Same thing happens with Hercule: Accidentally dodging hits, getting pushed out of danger by an intended attack, taking more damage than he should and being fine, his scared fumbling conveniently dodging blasts from an attack that *tracked and exterminated all human life on earth besides him and the people on kami's lookout* . On top of that he won several legitimate world tournaments in a world filled with people like Ox King who can walk through tank fire, mercenary tao, general blue, bruce lee, jackie chan, etc. He is able to pull 3 school busses and performed vanishing when moving too fast to see before. The problem is that a threat from Tao intimidated him into never training again so he stopped using his actual martial art and instead started relying on dirty tricks. He is basically what King would be like with powers and facial hair
@@aerodynamiccow3597 I would agree except you forgot one thing in the Majin Buu arc. When he was living with Majin Buu for a time, Mr Satan got shot by a gun used by a normal human. An that did more damage to Mr Satan then Cell comedically smacking him hard towards a mountain. An Satan would have literally died if i weren't for Majin Buu healing him a saving his life. An this gun did more damage to him then what Cell did to him.
Strongest non ki user in his verse vs the strongest plot manipulation in his verse.
Strongest bullshitter of today (King) vs Strongest bullshitter in history (Hercule)
@@bigenson18 okay
No. Both strongest plot bro
@@apalahcokk one has the plot making the made-up ultimate attack happen just for a gag, and has Saitama under its control, somebody that's immune to all other powers, and laws of the verse.
Meanwhile, Mr. Satan got lucky Buu’s a twisted goofy man-child, and thanks to having a daughter who was a superior version of Chichi, the Z Warriors had no problem helping him win. Also, he survived Cell sending him flying miles away, and landing on solid rock face-first, all because he's truly a superhuman, but without ki training, and being altered.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 thats all bcs of plot. U really think he could dodge buu who is even faster than ss3. Also since the beginning he always has plot like winning every tournament, known to be the savior of the world, etc. Just like king being known as the strongest man alive
Two of the most powerful characters go head to head
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@@permquestor218Mr Satan is 2nd in his verse tho farmer with a shotgun is him
@@moai1263What about Ui yamcha vs farmer with the shot gun(final form).😏😬
@@moai1263 mr satan is the champ tho
"powerful"
The fight would go like this:
King: We can't fight because... Our strength could shatter the entire world
Satan: Absolutely agree! Also, I have a headache, so i wouldn't be able to fight with my full power anyway!
King: It's settled then! *phew!*
Satan: *phew!*
King doesn't really bluff as his words get miscommunicated, so it'd probably be something more like.
"I won't fight you. It's far too dangerous."
and everyone just assumes it meant for the surrounding people even though King meant himself
In this case, Hercule would be the form King's luck takes, as he'd immediately seize the opportunity to not fight AND spin in in a way that makes it sound like badassery is happening.
@@opossumleader3645 I get what you mean but King has bluffed before. His reputation is unwanted, yes, but in front of powerful entities he has to play it up if he wants to survive
His words get accidentally taken as threats when he's trying to have normal conversations. So I guess it depends whether he's talking to Satan as a human or an enemy
I just love how it CAN boil down to King's bro coming in clutch and Hercule's brother in law showing up.
Goku's son is married to Hercule's daughter, so they are actually co-fathers-in-law.
@@GeorgePerakis
I think the term "Outlaws" fits much better.
Mainly cause its funny.
Also, Goku would want to fight Saitama just for the fun of it
King and Hurcule just standing around as things explode around them as Goku and Saitama fight faster then mortal eyes can see. Everyone just thinks the two are doing battle so fast that all you can see is them standing around after each instantaneous bout of combat.
then after a single minute Goku and Saitama just teleport to Beerus planet leaving the tournament entirely destroyed except the 2 spot king and Hercules standing and then they just either talked or just step down at the same time
The Chad: **King Engine**
The other Chad: It’s all tricks and mirrors
I'd argue that the fight would go like this:
Both fighters would hear the rumors about the other making them both extremely nervous.
Upon meeting, Mr Satan begins bragging and declares King's doom.
King engine activates.
Mr Satan is reduced to a quivering mass and tries to pull a similar stunt as he did with Boo where he begs for king to pretend to lose for him.
King, still very nervous, tries to accept but makes it sound like he won't accept defeat.
Mr Satan, changing tactics begs for the appearance of a tie
King agrees to this and Mr Satan explains to the camera crews that a battle between the 2 would threaten the very earth, so they've agreed to accept an amiable draw
Hercule: "Listen buddy in this town ive got a reputation to uphold, so could you throw this one for me and ill see to it your town reports you won?"
King: (this is my chance to get out of my mess if everyone knows this guy is stronger than me. Ill just tell him to not fake the report) "....I cant accept that"
Hercule: "I UNDERSTAND! TOTALLY UNREASONABLE OF ME, HOW ABOUT A DRAW THEN?"
King: (damnit!) "....Fine."
I like how at the end he basically says “if king vs hercule is a thing then u shd consider saitama vs goku first as a scale”💀💀💀💀 indicating that king and hercule are far superior to these guys which is obviously true
Duh
One tableflip and Goku is dead lol
I don't like how people are just fanboying for one side @@Narrativerse
I think it would just be a battle that will go on forever
@@eggyolk0 I ain't fanboying.
Goku just can't survive in space, that is a fact.
I love a good discussion about headcanon don't get me wrong.
But Goku is much weaker (1,000 tons'ish) and he can't survive in space.
Even if he could destroy the earth or heck the universe,
that would be just a suicide attack (which is out of character for him)
@@Narrativerse I see. I just thought if they fought on earth or something like the Tournament of Power it would go on forever. You do have good points though.
How I see this if they actually did have a fight in a tournament they were signed up for everyone to watch. I just see both not moving, with King just staring with King’s engine beating, while Hercule just start saying bluffs and show some moves in hopes of intimidating King.
These two would be afraid of one another after hearing their greatest “achievements” and fear for their lives.
The audience would just see this as either they are waiting for their opponent next move, or they are moving so fast that reality isn’t processing their speed and strength.
In the end a Red Ribbon Army android who has eaten a monster cell plans on killing these two during the tournament to be the world’s strongest.
Only for both Saitama and Goku to show up in a huge dust cloud covering up the stadium killing this monster in one shot not noticing each other.
Hercule and King see the dead corpse and assume the other killed it. The audience seeing this believe it is a tied and these two want to show how together they can protect the world from any threat. They cheer both of them on.
With both King and Hercule walking up to one another shaking each other’s hand both relieved that they don’t have to fight.
That how I see it would happen in canon.
This is PERFECT
Loving all the edited panels!
Yeah 😂❤
I know right.
Edited? Nah, that's just how it happened
@@theodore1293 nice joke
@@sammcfarlane2494you should read the manga, OPK or One Punch King, the manga about the strongest hero who can beat all of his enemies in a single punch named King.
The results of this fight would probably be a cognitohazard as people will fully believe that both Mr. Satan and King won the fight at the same time.
TL;DR: A fraud who happened to be a genuine martial arts champion can easily beat another fraud who happens to be a nerd.
YES
The strongest fraud of today vs the strongest fraud in history.
King wins no diff
Saitama would just somehow happen to show up and kill em.
@@p0k3mn1announcer: how did you even get here? This arena is outside time and space.
Caped baldie: I was fighting God, sorry for whoever I just landed on.
Jokes aside, Hercule is an actual Tournament Champion. He knows how to fight. If he was somehow put in the real world, he would be the strongest human being in history. Hercule has pull 4 buses and punch through one of them. He also ripped a phone book in half in like 2 seconds.
Edit: Both Cell and Buu feats are for comic relief, Hercule is not faster than light. The most you can put him at is faster than the eye could see.
Also the king engine wouldn’t work because Hercule is not a coward like he was during the Cell saga. During the Buu saga he actively went into the battlefield to get Vegeta so Goku could launch the Spirit Bomb.
Yeah, but also King Legit made a Monster straight-up Die on the spot on sheer intimidation alone. I agree that on neutral Terms Hércule negs but if we factor in reputation, it wouldn't be a lie to say Satan just finds a way to dip by faking a pain or something.
Edit:also depending on if you think King unwilling summon and meta luck counts as a Character power, the moment there's a threat to him the universe will just send in the Strongest being advaliable to his aid.
@@jesusmen6308Hercule survive attacks of Cell and dodge the punch of Kid Buu
@@yeleiralopez9945 i mean both were tremendiously holding back and I don't see how that help with King's Hax specifically
And Hercules would Shit His pants the Second He Hears the King engine, after all Kings intimidation feats are through the roof, reffering to how even characters who are very capable of sensing their opponents strength piss their pants at His sight
@@unEndheithercule tried to punch cell. Ill leave it at that
The most battle of all time
immovable object vs unstoppable force
Moveable object vs stoppable force
More like the greatest fraud Vs the luckiest liar
Because King just a regular person and didn't even know basic martial arts, he just lucky some bulsiht appeared out of nowhere to help his situation
While Mr. Satan in other hand is famous skilled fighter on earth and keep lying to everyone if he's the true saviour of earth
But still he's one of greatest normal human on earth compared to average citizen
🤣🤣🤣👏👏@@Tammy_1222
Wait till Chuck Norris solos both
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch but does he eat his spinach.
You forgot that Hercule became a god fighting the GOD lord Beebus
I find it funny that people think Hercule would ever be afraid of King. Either he would consider King to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors which it really is. Or even if he thought King was that much stronger Hercule would still fight, the Buu arc is the best way to show this, as you can see Mr.Satan despite his fear solo Kid Buu, (who he had just seen kill everyone on Earth).
So unless some insane luck just randomly happens, which I'm disregarding for the fight. Hercule gets that epic victory royale.
(So unless some insane luck just randomly happens)
Bro that’s literally King explained in one sentence
@rattled6732 It hasn't been confirmed as canon, more of a gag, and if we include character gags Hercule still wins as he was able to dodge buus attacks in a similar fashion.
He wouldn't be like Kings other opponents, I think that he'd just bumrush him after a bit of intro and trash talk, even if he did think it was all true.
Bruh why are people like that only in DBZ fan base? Any other fan base doesn't really care about their characters losing to characters from other verses, but DBZ fans always will argue in comments for no reason to prove their verse is superior
@Bogdan_Vader ngl I don't even like dbz that much, I just think Mr.Satan is peak
his luck didn't work on krillens wife stop yapping 😂@@GrandGurple
King negs. No explanation needed.
on god
mr satan solos
well satan could easily take care of king within seconds due to his physical abiltiies like martial abilities and such but i do agree with you since king's luck would be greater than satan's, the engine starting would give a heartattack to satan prob
King is plot armor so goku will probably appear and fart on satan
@@karbanite well yeah obviously no one’s ever argued King is strong, luck IS his power
Buen video bro, ya sabía que algún momento mencionarías esto: 12:12 XD, muy acertado tu análisis y los toques humorísticos, sigue así!
I adore that King’s plot manipulation and luck is so powerful it affects the meta. My favorite are the polls that include genuinely broken and powerful characters submitting to the King’s Engine 🙌🏽
I haven't caught up to the OPM manga to read the part where King survives the cosmic radiation, but if his power is 'luck', it could simply be said (in the wacky logic if the OPM universe) that the cosmic rays luckily didn't hit him enough/in the right spots to cause long term harm.
Now that's some major troll science, but if we're being honest, that's par for the course even in more serious 'superhero' comics
The King Engine is so good it made cosmic rays shit their pants fearing what would happen if they hit King 💯💯
He didn't survive it via luck.
He died to it buy survived it longer than others which is weird
When in reality the fight would go something like
"They're just standing there..... menacingly!!"
God usopp: i missed a part where its my problem
they just wouldn't fight King and Satan would have a stare down for like 10 minutes then King would be like this is boring me and somehow the crowd would just accept they were evenly matched or the fight happened so fast that they couldn't see who won or something along those lines.
9:42 Can still be luck. Radiation is tiny particle stuf f and tiny = quantum = random = luck, so luck with tiny particle means tiny particle no hit him.
One is a World Champion and the other is a gamer
hercule is the only one across all of dragon ball to never die or be wished back to life
Hercule is playing a 100% Charisma build
he clearly dumped some points into strength and vitality because he won a world tournament and has tanked a few hits.
Everyone brings up King's quantifiable luck power, but I'd argue Satan has some kind of luck power as well given how much he's cheated death in his life, from being thrown into a mountain by Cell, to accidentally befriending Buu which helped him be one of the only survivors of an attack that literally killed everyone else on Earth.
Nobody is mentioning that alien invasion during the famous goku flying with the tractor scene and somehow even without z fighters Satan survived that😂.
Plus isn't Hercule the only human in dragonball who hasn't died, he survived majin buu's mass extinction of humanity but he survived so he was the only one who did, he did die when frieza blew up earth in super but time was rewinded
@@zillasaiyan1m274if we're counting super, then I believe he die when Frieza blew up the earth and even then I think we have good reason to believe that he would've died in the alternate trunks timeline.
Completely agree, King seems to have a actual luck based power set or some sort of probability manipulation that in universe effects everyone other than Saitama, meanwhile Hercule is just a really good conman, events aren’t arranging themselves to trick people stronger than him, he has to lie bribe and keep up the charade actively.
I agree and disagree.
It affects everyone that believes in his reputation
For example it didn't affect the robot from s2 since he just didn't care.
And I can argue that Satan also has luck based powers like him actually luckily surviving an entire invasion of aliens to fight mr Satan the "strongest" specifically without z fighters in dragon ball super.
Both of them solo fiction
Fax
Kid named Fiction. Nah, I’d win
Fiction does have things like The Lake Of Axplexia, The Lord Of Nightmares, Kami Tenchi, Yogg'Sothoth, The Goddess Manifold, The White Light, The Ultra Gods Belus, Toilya and Tsyubasiya, etc......
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki uncle grandpa solos
@@CerealExperimentsMizukibro is geeking
I might be wrong, but he was the only human to not have to be wished back.
This battle would literally destroy fiction itself and I want to watch and see that happen.
Mr Satan is a WWF/WWE wrestler who is posing as a hero.
King just wants to get home and play his Japanese Dating Sim game.
Honestly I could tell the second he asked to use the bathroom when fighting, I was like "is he gonna pull a hercule?" Low and behold 😂
Mr. Satan once dodged attacks from Buu but he'll get a heart attacks because of King's intimidating look 😂
It would end in a stalemate with both of them being too scared to engage in combat while acting menacingly
Both of them:WHAT HE NOT SCARE OF ME????
King: SAİTAMA-CHİİİ!!!!
Mr. Satan: GOKU-CHİİİ!!!
*Endless battle begings*
bro you made my day
love your vids
Very honest and unbiased video ✌️
I love how you presented them from the in-universe perception of them.
The battle of the Strongest ( Frauds ) in their verses.
Them colliding fists would destroy fiction
I'd imagine their "fight" would be a series of gags as Hercule tries to avoid fighting Demon Engine King by getting him into deadly scenarios (like giving him a game console that's a bomb) while King miraculous evades death multiple times, eventually culminating in the two getting worn out from their attempts at the "fight" until they both pass out.
I like to think these two are so strong that the look weak just so people can fathom their infinite strength
I think people always forget he actually won a world martial arts tournament when none of the superpowered people were competing
None win. Because they both get spontaneous stomach aches.
I like how this ends in a stand fight. Saitama being King's stand and Goku Mr. Satan's
King wins
He stares at Mr. Satan, immediately giving him crippling stomach cramps that leave King as the winner by default
9:27 it's easy to explain
severity of radiation depend on the volume of human body and king is a big boy ngl
I like my head canon idea that King is a reality warper, OR he has insanely high levels of charisma and he’s just rolling nat 20’s like he’s in DnD, who doesn’t realize he is, and it really only kicks in when he’s in danger.
The King Engine triggers a psychic ability to paralyze many potential adversaries with total fear which causes them not to fight King. We saw this with that one Lizard Man who saw it was King, felt the effect of the King Engine and surrendered.
All fun and games until Goku shows up behind king and goes “Hey, I heard you were strong”
As a counterpoint to your Luck reasoning, Kings luck eventually ran out. He ACTUALLY died because of Garou's radiation. Mr Satan never died, no matter what happened around him. So i would argue that Kings luck has a limit that Mr Satans does not
Mr Satan died when Frieza blew up the earth in resurrection F
The interesting thing is Mr Satan knows martial arts on the hand king has no experience in martial arts but I all think we know who wins
It's either a draw
Or
Saitama arrives
Or
Goku arrives
Or
Both arrive
Or
Satan fearfully lands a chop and that would be disastrous
Even with King's super intimidation, Hercule still stood up to Buu, and in the GT version of the timeline, he stood up to Great Ape Baby and Omege Shenron even taking a no nonsense Kick from Omega and got back up.
GT at this point really is just a fanfic that made it to tv..
Like, it has plenty of amazing moments but it feels more like a fan story than anything official. Same thing with Heroes. It just falls short of the spirit that Akira Toriyama gave the franchise.
I think king genuinely has uncanny luck as a superpower, by definition, he wouldn't be aware of it or capable of controlling it though
If there were an actual fight, theyd both try to avoid actual conflict and probably become friends
Plot twist king took the mysterious stranger perk when he leveled up in fallout just B4 the show aired
Imagine a Fusion between these two... 💀
I was expecting "Why regular mosquito vs Saitama isn't close" 💀
Mosquito no diffs
I think a battle between the two would start with Hercule calling King out as the strongest and demanding they fight for the title. King would try to avoid the confrontation, but accidentally walk into the arena Hercule had set up. Before they fight however, a third entity from either verse would appear in the sidelines and cause Hercule to suffer one of his patented Hercule Stomach aches, having him call off the fight. Fans witnessing it (and Hercule himself later) would say that the fighters sensed each other's sheer power and came to a silent acknowledgement of each other as equals without a single punch landing.
Now this is a banger idea!!!
Great vid, but pls don’t do Saitama vs Goku because it’s just a to big of a controversy to talk about I’ve been watching your vids for a while now and all of them are great.
You are right 👍
Here’s how I see it. Using feats, Goku slams hard. Very very hard. Using statements and whats only been shown on screen, Saitama washes hard. Goku prefers to get his salad tossed to power up and gauge his opponent’s strength. Saitama doesn’t, he holds back which for some reason isn’t enough to not oneshot everyone in his verse
Have you not read the one punch man manga? He literally has a definitive scale of power when he fought Garou. He wasnt even solar system level when he first began fighting garou, so I dont see how it is even a "wash". I really hate fanboys who dont even read their own manga, not even dragonball fans are that stupid.@@Blue_Punch_Buggy224
@@Blue_Punch_Buggy224What are you taking about? Even using things on screen, Goku is washing Saitama pretty hard
@@yeikelamores6085 Saitama’s whole thing is punching everyone and everything onscreen. Its a stupid argument and I hate it, but in the world of One Punch Man, and how Saitama work’s currently there’s nobody strong enough to actually survive one of his punches.
Youre a monster, this vid earned my sub
Hercule was brave enough to walk towards Perfect Cell to deliver Android 16’s head AFTER seeing how strong he was. Hercule is NOT too scared to run up at King.
Great Video as always, now next Iaian vs the Hashira from Demon Slayer
During the inevitable feast the night before King menacingly stares at Mr.Satan. From Kings raw aura of power Mr. Satan chokes while eating and dies.
Love it.
Yacine next video would be perfect if is how many Z fighters Blast can defeat😊
Blast is getting bullied lmfaooo
Chaos and Yajirobe, out of those, Blast is being washed hard
We don't even know what blast is capable of. Why would we pit him against accomplished fighters?
Two
Chiaotzu/caos(dont know wich translation to use)
And gohan middle of the saiyan saga
@@CERISTHEDEV Why use such a weak version of Gohan?
Hercule could kick King's ass, but he'd have "stomach issues" from King's intimidation factor.
9:33 it's pretty simple actually, his sheer luck made every single particle move out of his way instead of hitting him, quantum mechanics can do that sort of thing,
Its like John Constantine in DC, his luck sometimes is so great reality will just warp to fit his needs/desires.
King is like that but not a douchebag like Constantine often is
The battle between both would be so intense that they would break all the ficction and then it´d be a draw
The luckiest Man of Today -king
V.S
The luckiest Man of History -Mr.Satan
I think it depends on the setting.
If its a tournament of any kind, I 100% believe that Hercule would take the win as his reputation being on the line would outweigh any level of intimidation or doubt King could create through his luck factor alone.
However if the fight were to take place in a private location away from public eyes, I believe Hercule would actually just surrender to King and beg for mercy due to King's sheer intimidation.
Location is what decides this fight.
TBH i really believe that so if in a tournament, but due to King Luck he would try to be honest and say something like " This is dangerous... let's not do it " refeering that this is to dangerous for himself and Hercule simply taking the oportunity to lie to the public and say that the battle would be to dangerous for the world or smt like that, everything for plot sake
These two would probably get along pretty well
King's Plot Manipulation is unstoppable
I can literally hear in my head right now, and Mr. Satan’s voice, “ what’s that pounding?!?! Is that coming from him?? Oh, crap! I bet he’s one of them aliens just like cool videls husband! I’ve gotta get outta here!!!”
Most likely, they would just stare at each other, King offers to end things there, Hercule agrees, and everyone thinks they must have fought so fast they couldn't see anything.
max intimidation vs max persuasion
What if we add Dan hibiki in the fight?
For some reason it feels like King would win, once his "King Engine" starts it begins a psychological effect of person who faces him to second guess his life, there's been cases where some even simply stopped living because they couldn't handle the pressure of Kindgs heart
People always seem to forget that Mr. Satan won several World Martial Arts Tournaments fairly when the Z fighters were not participating. The guy was the actual best in the world in his time, and only started to look silly when aliens/monsters/robots started participating again. King is just a fit nerd who probably hits the gym a few times a week.
king's power is basically luck. He would NOT get hurt, no matter what. No one, or nothing could hurt him, either because of his menacing appearance OR just luck, depends what happens. That's king's power in like a few sentences, or idk.
King died already in history once, so that's false
well king's luck would only work in his universe right? I suppose if king were to fight mr satan in the dbz universe he would lose and if in the opm universe he would win
@@yeikelamores6085and time was reversed so did it really happen ? Or you could say he’s just that lucky that his defeat never really happened due to the time rewind
@@tomisinonasanya5139 The curious thing is that the same can be said about Mr Satan and his deaths
@@yeikelamores6085 I guess that’s some kind of stalemate in the end I’ll just give them 50-50 and say anyone can have the win
This Video is Awesome
Nice Work _Yacine_ :D
_Mr. Satan_ & _King_ Are Truly Amazing Characters.
Based on what I've seen, Hercule is ballsy enough that he would be able to withstand the King Engine and see through to King not being that strong. After that, Hercule would just shake his hand and ask if he wanted to go out and get some food.
It kind of depends on when they meet. Hercule genuinely believed that he was the worlds strongest and that supernatural powers didnt exist before Cell, maybe even up until Buu. So at that time, he would fight King and Hercule is a real good fighter.
After that though, he would make a deal with King and King would of course agree to it. So either way, Hercule wins its just how it comes about.
Just a reminder that last time king shown any weakness, the universe was reset
Make king having reality manipulation powers canon.
Its just too perfect.
A man not knowing how he makes people believe he's 5ge strongest while not realizing he has a reality manipulation ability, very cool ironically.
I think the biggest difference is how they are perceived by their enemies. For the most part, those Mr Satan has faced can see through his act and regard him as little more than an annoyance. Cell tossed him aside like a used Kleenex. On the other hand, King has saved the day just on the rumors alone. Even the Cadres psyched themselves into inaction for fear of what King might do to them.
Now could you do king vs god usopp
Usopp is legit a good sniper
Meta Luck vs. Best Prediction Haki
I imagine both of them making up some excuse but the public seeing it a stalemate because both of them are so strong
The goat!
If they were to fight, something would appear at just the right time to save King… only to miss Mr. Satan completely because he ducked out of fear
If Hercule had learned to use Ki like his daughter had he would have became like master Roshi
i think mr satan wouldn't be fooled by king, and would taunt him by saying "heh, ill let you have the first hit, you look terrified" king would then think "if i don't hit hard enough maybe ill be laughed off the arena" so he goes for a light tap on hercules shoulder. hercule suddenly gets a massive cramp in said shoulder due to working out, and screams out in pain begging for the pain to stop. hercule is reminded of goku and co, and immidiately comes up with an excuse to avoid fighting out of fear.
Well, mr.satan at least throw hands in his verse, king is closer to an influencer.
So, if im understanding these two correctly, the fights between these two actually change depending on how many times these two face off. The first set of matchups are "ties" by mutual "forfiet"until they're both backed into a corner and forced to fight for real. King wins this next set every time, but Hercule will claim bad luck, or king got lucky. Someone eventually believes this to be true and sets out to change that either by making hercule luckier or removing king's. Once that happens King gets wrecked.
imagining an actual battle. kings engine and reputation would intimidate Mr Satan into making up an excuse as to why he has to leave(an emergency shit/stomach ache like he does in the bojack movie). so even if Mr Satan is more powerful King wins via battle field removal