Some Kind of SUPERSTAR! (feat. Brendan Hesse) | PRESS START TURBO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- The boys talk AI in gaming, have a chat with Brendan Hesse about the games journalism landscape, and finish off with a discussion about Disco Elysium!
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
1:34 Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown
9:37 Thief: The Black Parade
14:28 Major Layoffs at Discord and Unity
22:38 AI in Games
48:07 Brendan Hesse Interview
1:30:15 Disco Elysium Discussion
2:10:11 Brendan's Starfield Rant
2:22:06 Outro + Patreon Credits
News Sources:
"Discord is laying off 17 percent of employees" ▶ www.theverge.com/2024/1/11/24...
"Report: Unity Cutting About 1,800 People In Company's Largest Layoff" ▶ kotaku.com/unity-layoffs-1800...
"SAG-AFTRA and Replica Studios Introduce Groundbreaking AI Voice Agreement at CES" ▶ www.sagaftra.org/sag-aftra-an...
"SAG-AFTRA’s AI Voice Acting Deal Was A Powder Keg Waiting To Go Off" ▶ aftermath.site/sag-aftras-ai-...
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If you want to request a game for us to play reply to this comment! The final voting will be done by Patrons so if you want to vote on what we play check out our Patreon in the description :^)
I’d like to suggest the original Max Payne. It’s one of my favorite games, I always like hearing people talk about it, and I think it would be interesting to talk about it within the context of Remedy’s current notoriety, since Max Payne is Remedy’s first real claim to fame.
Dishonored !!
The Neverhood - A claymation point and click with a lot of charm that is sadly abandonware
Bomb rush cyberfunk
Klonoa 1 and 2
I'm genuinely so happy to see Cameron more involved with the podcast. With the new perilous and press start turbo it's nice to see him back
Totally know how you feel lol. Sucks that he and Billy are all that's left of the og crew, so I like seeing that he's so prominently featured now
Thanks again for having me on to chat games media, y’all! It was a blast ❤
Thanks for sharing your insights! And don't worry about talking for too long, it was really fun listening to how things look in your business! :)
I love how the format of the show is “ let’s put Brendan and Mandy in the box while we interview normal people”. Wise decision to protect the general public away from their insanity IMO.
OH SHIT I FORGOT THERES A SECOND ONE THIS MONTH HELL YEAH
There's a third on the 31st too!
@@PleaseStopTalkingPodcastThat’s my birthday! :)
@@PleaseStopTalkingPodcast Are all the episodes going to be close to 2 and a half hours long?
@@PleaseStopTalkingPodcast HOLY SHIT
Me too great surprise
Honestly I was a little nervous about the new show and new formats, but so far it addresses the main problem with PST, the lack of structure. The structure of the show gives the cast much stronger bones and it's all the better for it
I never expected Billy to be a top
Mandalore's avatar gives me Junji Ito vibes.
Finding out that none of you finished Disco Elysium by the time you recorded this episode honestly tickles me, alongside the things you guys talked about doing in it being so perfect. It's both so fitting and so funny to me. Keep shining on fellas.
Its awesome seeing Lunacid in the background of the interview segment, one of those games i wish more people knew about.
I’m doing my best to spread awareness!
2:07:48 To add my little experience to the mix:
When you first try to do anything with the body I had like 3% chance to succeed and the game gives you the "Get your shit together" thought to do that check. After that thought I had like 90+% chance to succeed, but I fucking failed and the game went literally "Wow, you had your shit together and all. That's surprising and sad!" and told me to go do something else for the rest of the day.
I managed to do the check on the second day and only then did I inspect it. Amazing game.
One of my new favorite podcasts, thanks a ton for all you guys do!
Dude Mandy capping off the AI section by saying “the box is open” made me audibly go awwwwww in public
mandy calling sir bearington and 3.5e old af did some psychic damage
40:30 i was _there_ in the vietnamese basket weaving website when the early dagoth ur posts were being made. Those shitters' mastery of 11labs in just less than a week (before the hard crackdowns on "usage limits" were in place) remains infinitely better than anything I've seen in months. I even have expired catbox links to the stuff thats uploaded to youtube.
Genuinely tragic seeing how uninspired content churners generate recividistic drivel for 5 views a vid and decide that "yeah this is a good way to use the internet's finite total bandwidth". Allah should turn us all into pillars of salt this eid, i think.
Btw use nightshade/glaze on your visual art to expedite the AI vomit Ouroboros
I was a bit skeptical of this new show, but I really enjoyed listening. Hoping it only improves from here. You boys are doing great stuff!
Epic intro music Billy!
Couldn't have refreshed youtube at a better time time for 2 hours of good time
Late on this but super happy you guys finally made a gaming show, I really liked some of those early E3 PST's
debating if i should sleep finally or stay up to watch this... you guys are talking about peak after all
talking about fail states in RPGs, Baulders gate has a scene where you can backtalk a god. it is very obviously a bad idea, but it ends in the funniest game over I could have imagined. for those not concerned with SPOILERS: You tell her to go solve her problem her self, and she casts wish to wish you and your entire party to death. Immediate game over after a pain in the ass fight. I was actually laughing my ass off
So happy to see you guys talk about video games. Especially Mandy and Branden always wanted to hear what they have to say about current video games.
Many, many props to Billy and Cameron! Another interview you two carried so well and smooth, great job guys!
Time it took for someone to call for a workers revolution on the podcast : 3 hour 44 minutes and 20 seconds (if you include the first episode)
Congrats boys, I'm sure we're only gonna get more based from there
as someone with 120 hours in disco elysium, yeah its probably the best game ever written
Edit: I checked, turns out I have 193 hours not 120
Awesome good stuff
HARD-CORE!!!!
Man... called out my dad and my for using AI assets for there sermon graphics
I hate that "Sacred and Terrible Air" isnt translated officially yet.
The fan translations are pretty good though
I can't believe Billy stole Brendan's iconic line around the end
BRENDAN. THANK YOU. YOU FINALLY PUT INTO WORDS WHY I DON'T LIKE FALLOUT 4:
*EVERY PLAYTHROUGH IS THE SAME*
Hardcore!
This podcast finally convinced me to buy Disco Elysium.
Good shit ones again
Some guy called ‘PanPizza’ wants on. Whoever that is.
you guys never fail to rep the best games
Prince of Persia: The World Trade Center
Working from home sucks. I'd rather be in an office any day.
Where's the pinned comment for the next game y'all play? I want to hear what everyone that isn't mandy has to say about Pathologic 2
It should be there but just in case I noted your request! :^)
Older gaming journalists exist. I get the sentiment, they aren't 80, but there are people in their 40s than are still active. I'd mostly say it's about your own age and that a gamer in their 50s probably knows and older journalist they grew up on. For me, in my 30s, it's Jason Winter, Richard Lewis, QuintLyn Bowers, Magickmann Michael Byrne, Danny O'Dwyer, Duncan Shields...
I have Brendan and Billy's issue combined. I love CRPGs in concept but isometric gameplay is so hard for me, and im losing interest in even the best games by 60hrs
About the Starfield rant at the end, I feel in a fairly admittedly paranoid way, that the issue with Paradiso and you not being able to wipe out the Corpos is simple, this game is made to some degree by Corpos, and I suspect that they will typically avoid having the narrative straying in a way that could inspire people to take hostile actions against Corporate interests, basically rich pricks don't want people to consider rising against them and wiping them out as a viable option to fix problems, I mean even in Cyberpunk 2077 do you really get to wipe out a Corporation of assholes? No, you can kill endless gangers and scums, but going on a rampage against Corpos you can't really, I mean sure technically you might take a stand against Arasaka and its boss, but largely you can't fight the system.
Ironically I know Brendan has a thing for Worm, and its in a way the same mindset, where in Worm their has been that notion propagated that normal people can't fight capes, while they would be able to in 99% of the cases, but its discouraged because its in the interest of Cauldron in keeping as many capes around as possible.
Well its the same in many modern stories, you can't take down the Corporations and those in power 99% of the time, because those are behaviors that said Corpos want to keep out of the public collective mind. So like I said it might be paranoia but I suspect this is part of a typical pattern of indoctrination to keep the public from consideration violence as a mean of solving various issues involving Corporate interests, even if said Corpos are basically destroying the world.
Part of the cyberpunk ethos is that the system is so overbuilt and entrenched that destroying it would be almost impossible and/or damaging to most people.
Besides that, chill on the "eat the rich" spiel and make some money for you and your friends or family
I feel like we need an active Butlerian Jihad against AI in media. AI is good for the SCIENCES, but when it comes to art, I'd argue that it's only good for internal concept art and references, and even then it should merely be used to supplement the concept art made by actual artists. And even THEN, the models should only be trained on public domain images. For more or less everything else, big companies need to be forced to replace their board of directors if they dare to dabble outside the restrictions of the Jihad.
We need a massive list of where all the CEOs and investors live, so that what passes for our cultural immune system can do the rest. And we can't morally refer to it with that dirty "d-word"; the collected information is being used to train humanity's cultural immune system, so we can prevent a plutocratic hellscape like this from EVER emerging again.
Revolutionary talk aside (though we DO need a worldwide worker's revolt, and a sustained one at that), while Lunacid was pretty neat, I'm not too fond of the final boss. I don't know what the gimmick to it was (other than taking the most damage from Dark attacks), but I simply couldn't wear the bastard down hard enough without getting worn down myself. Was there some special weapon or spell I needed to find in order to make the fight feasible? How high a level do I need to grind up to? I thought the musket would do the job, but it didn't fire rapidly enough to outpace the bastard's regen, and even with that one dark sword it still felt like chopping down a redwood. Seriously, I feel like I'm missing a trick with that guy, because the rest of Lunacid was solid and doable, right up until Sucsarius succed away my will to stick with it.
As for Disco Elysium, GOD I loved that game. It took a second try and a three-year gap between playthroughs to finally get into it (I wasn't in the mood for it during the peak of the pandemic), but once I fully broke into Elysium, I was hooked. On the day that I finished it (for once, I'm a step ahead of these fruity boys), the 23rd of May 2023, I stayed up until 5 in the morning to reach that final cutscene. Mandy talks about "dangerous" games like Factorio, where you think you're gonna play for an hour and then the sun is rising (if I didn't have the restraint I did, I'd be like that with Against the Storm), but by the time I'd finished the game, the sun was genuinely rising. Thankfully, the following day wasn't a work day, so I was able to sleep in, and sleep off the debt I'd incurred from seeing our glorious trashfire of a detective close the book on the Jamrock lynching of '51. (also, my build started out focused on Intellect and Motorics, which made a lot of Psyche checks harder than they otherwise would have been)
Weak moralist aura. You talked about disco and haven't mentioned the only important thing. But now...
WITNESS ME! I AM the finest revolutionary asset. The unemployed intelectual and greatest master of inframaterialism. So good at agitation that sometimes even i belive what i say.
Domestic terrorist? More like the last person in the world who is willing to do something about life.
What
Please stop calling it AI. art, there's no such thing as "AI art", these are AI generated images, that's a completely different thing, stop calling it art
Even if you hate it, calling it art legitimizes it
Oh this is a podcast? Oh now I want to watch the show. I didn't want to watch you guys be bad at video games no offense.