Swarovski NL Pure 10x42 W B review | Optics Trade Reviews
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You guys do the absolute best optic reviews on YT. And, your English is better than mine. Really, these videos are a great reference for us folks that are considering such expensive purchases. Thank you.
Over the past 3 years I have watched this video quite a few times just for fun, even though I own these binoculars ! (10x32)
And once again, just now, and it's always with the same smile, lol !... Just like with these NL's, always the same pleasure, the same smile, while using them every day !!
Thank you Andraž, you are good at transmitting your enthusiasm 😉
Thank you for this very informative test. I am a wildlife photographer and a polar guide in Svalbard and Antarctica. Binoculars are my first tool for looking for bears on the ice... in particular. I have old Swaro 8x30 SLCs which still work great but I want to invest in a newer 10x42 pair and the NL Pure look great ! However, I have read on some forums that these binoculars posed two major problems: 1/ condensation on the eyes piece lenses especially in cold conditions (much much more than other best binoculars). This would be due to the abandonment of the treatment of glasses (SvaroClean) which would contain composant harmful to the environment. 2/ Glare problems in bright light conditions (snow, water, reflections...) which would be due to the fact that the inside of the frame is not black over the entire body of the binoculars (unlike the Leica Noctivid ). Do you have an opinion on these two points which are essential for me given my use (use on the sea, in the Arctic > snow, ice, water, strong contrast and negative temperatures). thanks guys :)
Nice review! I got an el 8x32 and i m looking for a second bino for closer focus. I think often in many reviews the closest focussing distance does not get enough attention, maybe thats a subject you could once focus on in a future video. 👍
Thank you. Binoculars, today the only pure analog technology you can buy and enjoy without power supply or firmware updates👍I'm looking forward to buy slc or el .... because 3000€ is a lot. Very good video.
Binoculars and mountain bikes
And rifle scopes lol
Beat bibos by far. Just got mine and put them against the EL....WHOOOA!!! Still taking it in
The forehead rest gives you three points of contact with your face. This potentially enables them to be locked in plane with your face so your hand shake is assisted by the fact that most people have much less head shake.
Great review. I am considering upgrading to the NL pure system soon, have you heard if the Rubber is as bad as the EL Swarovision version 2? those are known to just disintegrate.
Perfect time to buy Swarovski EL Binoculars!
@Mario Ciaccio
The EL are much nicer
@@rolf5914 that tells me you've never seen the NL
@@hamedizzy5137 Yes, I already had the NL in my hand.
They are ugly. A friend of mine says it too.
@@rolf5914 LOL you supposed to look through them not stare at them lol. I love her curves. I just sold me EL
@@hamedizzy5137 I was offered a NL Pure for free and decided me for the EL 10 x 50
I agree with you that it is a smart move for Swarovski to lower the price of the el's ... But keep in mind that the el's that you buy no are nog the same as the ones you could buy before 2020... they altered the focus mechanism so that the closest point of focus is now 3.3 meters instead of 1.5... Because of the alteration they could lower the price of the el's... Smart move?! I don't know... 🤔
I wish they made lens hoods for the front lenses. A filter thread would be amazing.
Excellent review. Seen a lot of ***** (very bad) reviews. But i have to say this one is easily the best.
I am buying/not buying/buying/not buying ........ Expensive - but i probably will.
Thank you. It's a tough decision, but you won't be sorry!
Great review! Now I am wondering can we expect another new series with x50 NL Pure or kind of?
Thank you for watching. Hmm, we'll see..
Which one between the NL Pure and the Noctivid do you prefer and why?
Excellent video. How do the NLs perform in very low light conditions, especially when compared to a larger objective EL (like the 12x50)? Thank you kindly.
The NL is better then the EL in low light. And yous an obvious difference.
Actually as far as brightness they are about the same. Exit pupil is very close between them 4.1 to 4.2. I have both & as far as brightness it’s almost indistinguishable. Now if we talk about depth of field and Immersion that’s another ballgame.
@@hamedizzy5137 Thank you
@@Paultricounty Thank you
@@Paultricountydepth of field is said to be better on the Els??
Shaddup and take my money!!
you have nice point of view for the price compared with a supercar
how is it with brightness and resolution victory sf ??
I picked one of these up yesterday and the warranty card says lifetime. Maybe the NL pure gets a lifetime warranty?
How do these stand up against the Zeiss Victory SFs? For a birder upgrading from a pair of Nikon Monarchs, which model would you choose?
The NL 10x42. You will not be disappointed. These are much better then the SF from ergo.to build quality to image 👌🏽
Excellent review. Is their body armour improved over the EL Field Pro? I like the EL SV grip better on my 10x50 than the Field Pro. Also is the focus as quick as the Zeiss SF?
Finally, can you confirm the coatings are officially upgraded, please?
Thank you very much.
I just discovered by leaving my 10x50 EL SV's out in the UK winter sun for half an hour that the armour is biodegradable ! Further research says the Field Pro and NL armour is too - hence soap and brush included. It's all a bit of a con if you ask me, what a rip-off.
@@armadilopeter Biodegradable?? That’s not what i want to hear just after ordering a pair!
@@liamnicholls7106 Liam. You have just got to be very gentle with them, literally kid's gloves. The armour is very to start and even hand oil/sweat will permeate and could cause loosening.
That said the view with my SV's is breath-taking. Good luck with yours, just be extra vigilant.
the NL uses exactly the same Schott glass as the EL Russell, and zeiss and leica use it too , none of the big three makes glass its all purchased from a third party supplier
@@jasonhiggins6698 where’s your source? Swarovski empire has 3 branches, jewelry (where they make Chrystal jewelry and Chrystal glass)
The optik (binos, scopes,)
And tyrolit (saws, grinding tools, etc)
So you’re telling me swaro buys its glass 3rd party??
Do these also have that rolling ball-effect of the EL’s when you’re panning ?
They do use the field flattening lenses in the NL
Nice Review, Whats the price of EL 8x42? How much hve they dropped the price?
price drop was £160 for EL 32 according to CleySpy. its still flagship at that size. i think its same for el 42 but not 100% sure
Although my comment doesn't relate to the NLs, I'd just like to point out that although Swarovski have reduced the price of the old ELs, they have increased the close focus distance of those binoculars. My 10x42 EL SVs focus down 1.3m, or even a little closer, but the close focus distance of that model has now been changed to 3.3m. I've taken that information from the Swarovski website. For many people, that will make the older model less attractive. Otherwise, thank you for a good review.
Do you know if the new priced EL 10x50 had increased the minimum focus also?
That’s because they have made the focusing mechanism slightly cheaper and possibly reduced the quality of the prisms ie increased the refractive index.
Besides thanking you for this amazing review, my question is: would you buy them as soon as they’ll be available on the market or do you foresee any price drop after a couple of months?
I think there will not be a price drop for years on the NL's
Im with Tim the price won't come down on these for a long time
Swarovski rarely ever drops in prices.
Guys will you be reviewing the 10x52 and 14x52 soon?
If you use a kowa 8x32 bd ii with a comparable fow do you also have the feeling of falling into the image?
I have the Kowa genesis 8x33. With the NL you absolutely feel like you’re in the image, completely more immersion than the Kowa which is a beautiful binocular.
Some have said that with the eye cups all the way out the edge of the view is a little blurry, so they have to push the eye cups in a little to see everything clearly. Have your or your team had this problem?
Yes, the reason that Swarovski included so many eyecup positions is that everyone can set the optimal eye-relief for their need. If I pull the eyecups all the way out, the image is a bit blurry at the sides, so I prefer having them in the second-to-last setting.
U want to be as close as you can with out seeing black spots. This will give you best image experience
Question of personal adjustment..
Thank you. Very helpful review. I am having a hard time deciding between the 8X vs, 10X power of this binoculars. I plan to use this for stargazing and birding. Can you make a suggestion?
8X42 without a doubt for hand held. If you use a tripod, then either.
10x power is the way to go with the NL. There’s almost a 400ft field of view which is more than most 8x binos. With that FOV with the head rest accessory it’s the most stable 10x on the market today (non-image stabilized binos) Almost as good of most 8x.
Tried both 8 and 10x. Any healthy person should be able to handle 10X.
Especially on longer distances it makes a huge difference.
@@mauriciolacruz old or weak with shaking issues?
10X is obviously an advantage...
@@OmmerSyssel
Neither old nor weak. But during a walk trip across the field, tell me if less magnification is a disadvantage or an advantage. (Unless you use your bins sitting down on a comfortable chair and close to your favourite coffee...)
Seeing no field of view is a bit strange to me.....By the way, these bins has 4.2 mm exit pupil, is the brightness still better then let's say an €250 bynolt 8x42 stork bino or a similar binocular ? Thanks!
Could you please write us an email at info@optics-trade.eu? Our sales team will reply as soon as possible and give you our objective opinion.
Forehead rest? Is it more effective than Canon image stabilizing in their binoculars?
You can write us an email at info@optics-trade.eu and we'll give you our objective opinion.
You keep saying these are « the best in the world ». But it is really embarrassing to not realize that this new focuser is obviously a copy of the Zeiss SF Victory, which have the same light transmission (92% Zeiss SF vs 91% Swaro NL), a better minimum close focus range (1,5 m vs 3.3 m) for a 120 m f.o.v, are lighter (-50 g) and have this unique and incredible Ergobalance you acknowledge in the review you made. No doubt the NL must be the crème de la crème but unfortunately this review doesn’t seem unbiased.
I am shopping and I have it narrowed down to the NL or the EL. I use my binos a lot on wilderness canoe trips including in the arctic. My binos are subjected to quite rough treatment. I would probably go with the NL, but I am concerned the single bridge design might not hold up as well to to rough treatment in a canoe portage pack etc. compared to the EL. So, what do you think? Is this a real concern?
The single hinge design likely shifts the cg back which makes it easier to hold the barrels up. I suspect a reinforced bridged lens cap could stiffen the end when not in use to toughen them up.
@@RedShiftedDollar
Smart consideration. 👍🏻
robert believe me if your planning on back country work the NL bins are probably the single worst purchase you'll ever make , there wonderful to look through but the build quality is terrible
@@jasonhiggins6698 Could not disagree more. I have NL 8x40 and they have been tough as nails. I love them.
@@jasonhiggins6698 lol do you even own a pair?
Great video for someone who is lusting after this.
I was told by my friend the EL was the best, but i am thinking NL is the benchmark.
Do i spend €3000 though on a pair of binoculars. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a tough choice, we know. EL or NL - you won't be sorry with either.
Why do you guys never show the lens through a camera?
Most won't cause they know that even some of the best camera lens will not show the detail you will actually see thru the binoculars. even with a jig to mount the camera to the eye piece the camera will capture images differently.
Just got to use these and they're genuinely frightening. Supernatural.
Don't look through them; they'll ruin you
Too late.....just recieved mine after making that mistake and 3k later.
Got mine around the same time and no regrets!
I've got one original EL 10x42 bought back in 2000 and one Swarovision EL 10x42 from 2010 so I'm afraid your dates are not quite correct.
Hello, is the clarity and true color reproduction of Swarovski binoculars the best among all brands?
Yes moat people would say that and if you see the NL you'll walk away with them
I only found out later that the headrest was not included!! Their distributors are very unhelpful.
The Bugatti Chiron vs. the Swarovski NL Pure. The Swarovski is a bargain. 😆
Haha, nicely put :)
optically i can tell no difference between my EL and Zeiss SF as well as my dads NL the only thing its got on the other 2 is wider field of view and crisper to the edge sharpness ,Zeiss choose not to do that 100% ,its certainly not worth the price more than a EL no way
Too bad if you had just bought a pair of EL's. Also, I find the quality control of the newer Swarovski binoculars (EL) not up to scratch. Eye pieces stick/jam in almost from the first day. Also the glue holding on the rubber covers on the eye rings deteriorates very quickly allowing the rubber eye covers to come off when taking off the rain guard. The rainguard is a very stiff, strong rubber cover that strongly grips the eye covers and pulls them off.
Another issue with the EL's are the press in rubber covers at the exit end. Again, they are very tight and very firm to press in and pull out, They are attached by a flimsy piece of light rubber to a metal rod permanently attached to the binoculars. The flimsy rubber has torn away twice now within 12 months.
I have had to request new eye rings, also the old style exit covers and the old style rain guard from Swarovski. Very disappointing for such a highly priced binocular. Looks like Swarovski are going the way of Zeiss who quality control has been an issue for some time.
I don't have the Field Pro, only the older El model. I agree with the rubber on eyepieces coming off -bizarrely badly thought out. Mine (10x50) experienced mild sticktion out of the box. 3 years on and the rubber armour is coming loose off the body. I sensed the Field Pro was just the emperor's new clothes, so am glad but still mildly disappointed with the 'biodegradable armour' which had I been aware of then would definitely have put me right off.
Worsened build quality on both Swarovski and Zeiss.
Go Leica!
absolutely right mate, the quality control at swaro is shockingly bad now, my last pair had to go back to Austria to be rebuilt for all the problems you mention twice in four years, i finally gave up and went back to ultravids
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What does WB mean?
W stands for wide-angle view, and B stands for twist-up eyecups. You can find all the acronyms explained here: optics-info.com/swarovski-optik-acronyms/
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If the EL price has been lowered and is still profitable, it suggests they were overpriced in the first place.
All items in this sort of price segment is overpriced..
Try sell them in two or five years and notice the difference to the rest of the market.
User satisfaction unmentioned...
Gosh this looks perfect 😍😍😍 I am sure I could see God with these
These could have been the perfect binoculars on the market if they wouldn't have wasted the opportunity to make them compatible with the best tripod adapter on the market: Their own SLC-TA for the SLC series. What a shame and wasted potential, considering that the 12x42 model just screams for occasional tripod support to show its full potential.
The platform based tripod adapters are simply too bulky to carry around in nature when photographic gear also comes in to play...
Use the Outdoorsman stud
Or just use Swarovskis universal adapter, I don’t see what the big deal is? That adapter is rock solid and nicer in someways than a regular tripod mount.
@@ARlELATOM The UTA takes up huge space in a backpack and is heavier than the SLC adapter that I already own. The outdoorsman stud can only be of interest if you live in the US. I am from Europe and sending 3000€ binoculars twice across the Atlantic is not worth the hassle and risk if you consider the annoyance with customs and the cost of shipping. Addtionally it's likely that this modification voids warranty and as they have not been released on the market yet, nobody knows if the outdorrsman stud modification is even possible with these!
Without a permanent modification an (expensive) tripod stud can be screwed in place.
The price is ridiculous, almost £1000 more than what it should really cost. Swarovski is taking note from big mobile phone makers I guess.
Obviously Swarovski didn't get the memo of the long planned controlled demolition of the economy. Perhaps Gates and Bezos will buy-up surplus stock!
If you want buy cheaper options.. Just don't ever compare with these and you'll be happy, and enjoy 100 boxes of beer 🤷🏼
Just buy Leica.. these will fall apart..
How will they fall apart?
These will fly off the shelves because Swarovski users are like Apple users.
Great binoluars, forehead rest a waist of money,very fragile bumped it once and it broke. Called Swarovski and no parts. I was told to buy a new one at $150.00
Sounds highly unlikely.. European Swarovski service has a rumour of being state of the art..!
Even their very old binoculars are often serviced and updated for free ...
Optically 10/10 mechanically 4/10, they look beautiful but build quality is terrible
Ты русский что ли ?
এই ভিডিওটি ইংরেজিতে থাকলে আপনি কেন রাশিয়ান ভাষায় লিখছেন এবং কেউ আপনাকে বুঝতে পারে না?
And remember folks, the glass in the NL is exactly the same as the glass in the EL, as it is in leicas noctivid and Zeiss SF, none of the big three actually manufacture glass they all buy from a third party manufacturer Schott ,and none manufacture their magnesium body or rubber armour or eyecups , they all use what they call "globally sourced parts" and 99 % of the assembly is done in china and the finishing is done in europe,the build quality of modern optics is terrible , but they all have obsolescence built in, there designed to fail , whereas quality optics used to be designed to last a lifetime or at the very least 40 years of hard use ,we now live in the i phone era, where your expected to upgrade every few years as binocular fashion morphs and changes on an annual basis
BS. Swarovski binoculars are made entirely in Austria and Swarovski makes its own glass.
@@MatthewC137 nonsense Swaro has never made their own glass , they use Schott HD which is produced in one of the schott facilities in SE Asia , as is the terrible rubber armour and magnesium body , they are only assembled in Austria 🇦🇹
@@jasonhiggins6431 They source the best glass available in the world and grind it and coat it in Austria. Swarovski, Zeiss, and Leica each end up with very different glass because of their unique specifications and coatings.
Your eyes don't work very well if you can't see the difference between the NL and EL. Whether the glass itself is the same or not, the end result is not. The NL is clearly superior.
I think your problem with the armour is that it's wrapped around a product you cannot afford.
@@MatthewC137 your a prick , Iv a pair of noctis two pairs of ultravid, Iv £29,000 of canon gear and been a Swaro user since my first pair in 1983 probably before you were born , I had the first EL in country which I had to buy in Germany as I’d just done a 6 month raptor survey for the Israeli government, I’m fully able to buy NL thanks ( bedn using my mates 12-42 this afternoon!! I don’t buy them because the build quality is fucking shit NOT as you say because I can’t afford them 😂😂😂
@@jasonhiggins6431 Good for you. By the way, it's "you're" not your.
Hope you feel better.
MOST OVERHYPED! I don’t expect this from Swarovski. These binoculars have wider field of view because they have less eye relief. It is physics not magic. Swarovski always overstates their eye relief by 3mm. But these binoculars are so expensive and don’t have swaro vision. Instead they have gimmicky plastic pieces and price is 3k. BS!
Yet you fall for the "Swarovision" hype 😂
@@keithparr547 after Els and 56mm version of SLCs , you are stepping into diminishing returns.
@@jagmeetsmann you've got a point there