I took these suggestions/tips that you gave and used them EXACTLY as you do it in your company. We renovated our kitchen almost 2 years ago and these tips were a LIFE SAVER!!!!!! I also thought drilling the holes on the bottom of the base cabinet doors and on top of the wall cabinets was GENIUS and saved us LOADS OF TIME! 🙏🏽 THANK YOU
That hanging Rack you're using looks exactly like a photographers backdrop stand. Portrait photographers use them to hang canvas backdrops for portraits. They are inexpensive and easily found used on eBay in the photography section. A lot less then what that company is selling it for. The hangers look like metal pant hangers that a dry cleaner would use.
You should have that company make a lazy susan type of rack for spraying them flat. I don't like the pin type because it might leave imprints on the back side. The advantage of spraying them flat is you can apply a heavier build. I don't like to poison myself shooting lacquer. The explosion factor also worries me. Also venting lacquer fumes can be an issue in the winter.
Rockler makes a product that goes in the concealed hinge hole and holds it up. However, in a production environment like yours that’s just one more thing you always have to buy and keep on hand. Also, I still use your method for drawer fronts, because I obviously don’t drill a concealed hinge hole in those.
All of your videos are very informative and your unique approach is much appreciated. Great job as usual and thanks for sharing all your hard earned info with other people and painters. God bless.
You’re a very good and intelligent painter. Thank you for all your knowledge. I’ve learned a lot from you. I use the for rack painter system because I can spray the doors on both sides in one day. Plus, I don’t use lacquer but water based finishes like Emerald Urethane and Kelly Moors Durapoxy
Thanks for another informative video Chris! I've learned a lot from you guys. Regardless of the painting project, I feel most customers of mine are uninformed and have no idea how much prep work goes into a job. I'm regularly competing against guys who low ball me, and I always tell my customers to make sure the prep work my competitor is including is similar, if they are doing any prep work at all. I've seen plenty of jobs where a painter didn't do any prep work and the customer felt like it was a good job until I point out the corners that were cut. I do pretty well when I walk a customer through all the prep work that's involved when explaining my estimate.
How do you fill cabinet door pull holes if the handles are changing location. My hole filler Bondo body filler was fine on the primer but after spraying a coat of finish the holes are now showing somewhat concave
Did you ever just cut and roll cabinets and their frames? If so, what was your process and what paint did you use? I”m stuck in the seventies! Thanks for the tips Chris and company
We live in California and we cannot use lacquer paint. I have lacquer painted kitchen cabinets. The doors have scratches and I want to have my painter sand and touch up. Any suggestions? Thank you so much,
Hello Chris, we typically use Benjamin Moore Advance or regular oil enamel from Benjamin Moore in order to paint our cabinet doors and we use a door rack painter system but I am quite curious as to the lacquer that you use for your cabinet doors. Is it a colored lacquer? And where can we purchase this colored lacquer 2 speed up our kitchen cabinet projects.
We have best luck sitting drawer fronts on an old paint can or something and shooting them. If you tried to hang a drawer it would be off balance and very unstable.
@@Idahopainter That was one of my concerns also. In my spray booth I feel much safer with the Lacquers. What product are you using now if you don't mind sharing that? Also I have been looking at your spray system for drying racks I am ready to purchase do you recommend a package. We do not do a lot of cabinets per year. If we could get a quicker turn out we could go from 20 sets to 40 sets without any issues. Any advise would be appreciated. Thank You
@@Idahopainter hi, yeah I was asking about the hangers themselves do they only sell with the $425 stand? Because yeah... I'd have to pass if that's the case. Please LMK either way thanks again
Hi Paintlife, i understand that vertical versus horizontal painting depending on paint type. I want to use the Advance alkyd waterborne paint for my cabinets. Would it be better to do horizontal or vertical for that type of paint?
Love your videos. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise! Would you be willing to share which spray gun/tip you use to paint your cabinets? There are so many options and so many different opinions. I trust yours!
@@Idahopainter Hi Chris, could you please provide a little more detail? I've been using SW Kem Aqua Plus which SW says is a "lacquer" despite the fact that it is water-based. First primer coat creates a lot of grain-raising that then requires lots of sanding. I've heard that SW also offers solvent-based pigmented lacquers (which i guess would be considered a "conversion" lacquer? anyway, are you guys using the water-based Kem Aqua from SW or instead using SW's solvent based or conversion pigmented lacquers? If you're using the solvent-based, I assume it doesn't raise the grain which saves time and effort? Thanks in advance!
Practice like he said yes.....but you can also try to lower the flow rate of material comming out of your gun. When running another pass wait 30 seconds before applying (while waiting keep hitting the door with air) let it flash off a little. You can try moving your hand faster. And maybe don't thin out the paint so much. Always use a measuring cup when cutting and adjust percentages accordingly. Play around with these variables in different combinations. Hope you get good results. 👍🏻 Oh and also your overlapping might be too close together. Cheers!
Interesting post...do you tell the customer before hand you will be drilling holes or just do it and not say anything...seems like some customers could get bent out of shape knowing they have little holes in there cabinet doors, great video as always
Chad Rockman I drilled them in my own cabinets and I’m not upset. Why in the world would anyone ever care. I have not compromised the integrity of the cabinet. There are holes all over for hinges, door handles, for assembly. When we get on steep roofs we have to put screws in the roof for our safety equipment. Sometimes it’s the nature of the work and what you have to do to get the end result the customer desires.
I used this method and it worked great. I drilled the holes wrong on an upper door and you have to lay your head on the counter to see them. I did have to fill a lower door that I changed the swing on but it is not that big of a deal. I sure wish I had metal hangers. The plastic and wooden ones were kind of a pain. I had 24 doors hanging on a pipe in my laundry room it was quite a sight.
Good Life no problem. You need to use Sherwood’s primer surfacer before the pigmented lacquer. The primer surfacer stinks more than the lacquer but does a great job as well.
Not really. Look inside one of your nicely finished dressers. The inside of the dresser looks like crap - not finished or sanded at all - why? - because you dont see it. Those two little holes will NEVER be seen by anyone.
Lol... I know I asked that question, but I'm sure I wasn't the only one. I had a idea that's how you fixed that problem. Thanks for the video. I did learn something else though. I wasn't aware of the colored laqure. I've learned a lot of helpful tips watching you videos. Thanks.
Customers are the golden link in the chain called capitalism. My business philosophy is to meet their expectations and to address their issues. I'm a wood finisher. The customer is always right. I've never bad mouthed a customer. I might think of a certain customer as being fussy, choosy, or highly particular, but that's as far as I go. Any good business will treat every customer like that. That's the essence of customer service.
I took these suggestions/tips that you gave and used them EXACTLY as you do it in your company. We renovated our kitchen almost 2 years ago and these tips were a LIFE SAVER!!!!!! I also thought drilling the holes on the bottom of the base cabinet doors and on top of the wall cabinets was GENIUS and saved us LOADS OF TIME! 🙏🏽 THANK YOU
Glad to hear it helped, thanks for watching!
Saving time? 1 dot for top, 2 dots for bottom inside the hinge hole. Forget "T" and "B". You're welcome everyone.
That hanging Rack you're using looks exactly like a photographers backdrop stand. Portrait photographers use them to hang canvas backdrops for portraits. They are inexpensive and easily found used on eBay in the photography section. A lot less then what that company is selling it for. The hangers look like metal pant hangers that a dry cleaner would use.
Photography backdrop stands don't have casters. And do backdrop stands support the weight of several hanging doors? I doubt it.
You should have that company make a lazy susan type of rack for spraying them flat. I don't like the pin type because it might leave imprints on the back side. The advantage of spraying them flat is you can apply a heavier build. I don't like to poison myself shooting lacquer. The explosion factor also worries me. Also venting lacquer fumes can be an issue in the winter.
Seems like you could use a hook that goes into the hole for the door hinge hardware.
Really good painters know to use a small hook in the hinge holes, not make additional holes in brand new cabinets.
Rockler makes a product that goes in the concealed hinge hole and holds it up. However, in a production environment like yours that’s just one more thing you always have to buy and keep on hand. Also, I still use your method for drawer fronts, because I obviously don’t drill a concealed hinge hole in those.
Chris, what do you do about drawer faces? Do you put cup hooks on them as well. They may be more visible.
Treat them just like a door
Learned this method from you guys and it works great! Also purchased the painting and drying rack and it was a game changer for us! Thank you!
This was so helpful! Thank you for this video!
All of your videos are very informative and your unique approach is much appreciated. Great job as usual and thanks for sharing all your hard earned info with other people and painters. God bless.
You’re a very good and intelligent painter. Thank you for all your knowledge. I’ve learned a lot from you. I use the for rack painter system because I can spray the doors on both sides in one day. Plus, I don’t use lacquer but water based finishes like Emerald Urethane and Kelly Moors Durapoxy
Very nicely said.
Thank you kindly
Thanks for another informative video Chris! I've learned a lot from you guys. Regardless of the painting project, I feel most customers of mine are uninformed and have no idea how much prep work goes into a job. I'm regularly competing against guys who low ball me, and I always tell my customers to make sure the prep work my competitor is including is similar, if they are doing any prep work at all. I've seen plenty of jobs where a painter didn't do any prep work and the customer felt like it was a good job until I point out the corners that were cut. I do pretty well when I walk a customer through all the prep work that's involved when explaining my estimate.
Hi Chris what is the brand name of the lacquer product that you use on your cabinet doors and drawers?
Your a freaking genius, I’m going to start doing this with my cabinets
👊
how about the drawers? Do you use the same process for drawer faces?
yes
How do you fill cabinet door pull holes if the handles are changing location. My hole filler Bondo body filler was fine on the primer but after spraying a coat of finish the holes are now showing somewhat concave
Hello Chris what about the facings for the drawers what method do you use
How do you move the door when it's wet? You have to wait for it to dry on the spray table?
Hang from drying rack
Did you ever just cut and roll cabinets and their frames? If so, what was your process and what paint did you use? I”m stuck in the seventies! Thanks for the tips Chris and company
Where do I buy those metal hangers?
When or how do you sand between coats??
Thanks for that video 💯
We live in California and we cannot use lacquer paint. I have lacquer painted kitchen cabinets. The doors have scratches and I want to have my painter sand and touch up. Any suggestions? Thank you so much,
Go to your local sherwin williams industrial finishes shop and buy lacquer.
Hello Chris,
we typically use Benjamin Moore Advance or regular oil enamel from Benjamin Moore in order to paint our cabinet doors and we use a door rack painter system but I am quite curious as to the lacquer that you use for your cabinet doors. Is it a colored lacquer? And where can we purchase this colored lacquer 2 speed up our kitchen cabinet projects.
id of liked u to of gotten an answer
You don't sand after lacquer undercoater?
A sanding sponge works great after the primer surfacer. Leaves a really smooth surface for the lacquer.
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Chris, do you use same drilling technique for drawer fronts? I assume yes, but they would be a little more noticeable.
We have best luck sitting drawer fronts on an old paint can or something and shooting them. If you tried to hang a drawer it would be off balance and very unstable.
Chris,
What lacquers are you using for your cabinets?
I do not use lacquers anymore cause of the dangers
@@Idahopainter That was one of my concerns also. In my spray booth I feel much safer with the Lacquers. What product are you using now if you don't mind sharing that? Also I have been looking at your spray system for drying racks I am ready to purchase do you recommend a package. We do not do a lot of cabinets per year. If we could get a quicker turn out we could go from 20 sets to 40 sets without any issues. Any advise would be appreciated.
Thank You
What brand of spackle do you use?
Hi Chris, do you have a link to those hangers? Love how compact they are!
typeerk on our store www.store.theidahopainter.com
@@Idahopainter hi, yeah I was asking about the hangers themselves do they only sell with the $425 stand? Because yeah... I'd have to pass if that's the case. Please LMK either way thanks again
Hi Paintlife, i understand that vertical versus horizontal painting depending on paint type. I want to use the Advance alkyd waterborne paint for my cabinets. Would it be better to do horizontal or vertical for that type of paint?
Thanks for another very informative and interesting video!
I'm buying this system Chris! Thanks for the video bro.
Thanks for watching!
Great tip Chris. Exactly how i have been doing it for years. Never had a customer complaint.
Love your videos. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise! Would you be willing to share which spray gun/tip you use to paint your cabinets? There are so many options and so many different opinions. I trust yours!
The tickler sure hook 360 cabinets door hanger
I use mohawk filler stick i believe they are 70 colors to choose from
I’m getting ready to spray paint with a Erlix hvlp system using the Benjamin Moore Advance paint will this work best with this method or laying flat.
If you add Floetrol you do thin coats, you can paint vertically no problem. However its safer (less drips) to paint them laying flat
What brand lacquer do you use as I want to spray my kitchen cabinets please
Sherwin Williams
@@Idahopainter Hi Chris, could you please provide a little more detail? I've been using SW Kem Aqua Plus which SW says is a "lacquer" despite the fact that it is water-based. First primer coat creates a lot of grain-raising that then requires lots of sanding. I've heard that SW also offers solvent-based pigmented lacquers (which i guess would be considered a "conversion" lacquer? anyway, are you guys using the water-based Kem Aqua from SW or instead using SW's solvent based or conversion pigmented lacquers? If you're using the solvent-based, I assume it doesn't raise the grain which saves time and effort? Thanks in advance!
@@carlpetitt2241 I agree more details please.
Every time I spray cabinets hanging, the paint drips. Is there a way to prevent that or a different paint I could use?
practice
Practice like he said yes.....but you can also try to lower the flow rate of material comming out of your gun. When running another pass wait 30 seconds before applying (while waiting keep hitting the door with air) let it flash off a little. You can try moving your hand faster. And maybe don't thin out the paint so much. Always use a measuring cup when cutting and adjust percentages accordingly. Play around with these variables in different combinations. Hope you get good results. 👍🏻
Oh and also your overlapping might be too close together. Cheers!
"She couldn't live with the holes" (Chris bites his tongue, cuz sadly customer has to be right even when ridiculous)
Sash restores have been hanging window sashes to dry forever.
Real cool. Thank you.
Interesting post...do you tell the customer before hand you will be drilling holes or just do it and not say anything...seems like some customers could get bent out of shape knowing they have little holes in there cabinet doors, great video as always
Chad Rockman I drilled them in my own cabinets and I’m not upset. Why in the world would anyone ever care. I have not compromised the integrity of the cabinet. There are holes all over for hinges, door handles, for assembly. When we get on steep roofs we have to put screws in the roof for our safety equipment. Sometimes it’s the nature of the work and what you have to do to get the end result the customer desires.
its not hacky. tell the homeowner ? lmao
How can I get shipment to canada, please. Your customers service person has not answer phone or return email. Thx
Chris. thanks so much for this information 👍🇺🇸
A cup hooks 7/8 not too big?
Can you buy just the hangars?
Robert yea
Awesome painter
I used this method and it worked great. I drilled the holes wrong on an upper door and you have to lay your head on the counter to see them. I did have to fill a lower door that I changed the swing on but it is not that big of a deal. I sure wish I had metal hangers. The plastic and wooden ones were kind of a pain. I had 24 doors hanging on a pipe in my laundry room it was quite a sight.
Do you tell your customers that there are holes? If you're just about making money, then I question your painting quality. No sanding in between?
get a clue.
Sweet video except for the comment about laquers. They are less forgiving then enamel
What type of lacquer?
They use (so do I) Sherwood pre cat hi bld clear or pigmented lacquer from SW. awesome stuff
Will H thanks I appreciate the advice
Good Life no problem. You need to use Sherwood’s primer surfacer before the pigmented lacquer. The primer surfacer stinks more than the lacquer but does a great job as well.
Will H thanks I will fallow your instruction. I can’t wait to see the end results.
Good Life make sure your sprayer can spray lacquer. Not all can and this stuff is very flammable
Wow, his mind set of if they can't see it then it's not a problem says a lot about the quality of his work.
Not really. Look inside one of your nicely finished dressers. The inside of the dresser looks like crap - not finished or sanded at all - why? - because you dont see it. Those two little holes will NEVER be seen by anyone.
@@ShopTherapy623 NO...my dresser is nice and smooth inside. Not sure what crap you are buying.
@@robertwood2379 lol, cool story
Lol... I know I asked that question, but I'm sure I wasn't the only one. I had a idea that's how you fixed that problem. Thanks for the video. I did learn something else though. I wasn't aware of the colored laqure. I've learned a lot of helpful tips watching you videos. Thanks.
A 10 minute video to say you drill through your finished doors...? yikes
OK
I like how much money you spend doing things and l can do the same with less than 10dlls..
Ok! That would be good if you share then people can learn other ways 🤙
is this trash talk if so it be fantastic.... less than 10 bux u gotta double up ur plastic dollar tree hangers so right there ur full of shit
That lady who said she couldn’t t live with those hidden holes in her cabinets 🙄🙄🙄🙄 those are special customers. Gotta love em! Hahahaha
Exactly!!
Garbage...it is their property and they have the right to choose not to have holes left in their cabinet doors.
System
She couldn't live with those tiny holes she couldn't never see with every day living....That's not a customer that's a pain in the ass!!
Customers are the golden link in the chain called capitalism. My business philosophy is to meet their expectations and to address their issues. I'm a wood finisher. The customer is always right. I've never bad mouthed a customer. I might think of a certain customer as being fussy, choosy, or highly particular, but that's as far as I go. Any good business will treat every customer like that. That's the essence of customer service.
Stonage painter
TO MUCH BBLA BLA BLA
$425 for that rack - its a clothes rack
I believe you get the whole system for $425, and they are sturdy and powder coated. Quality product
The Spaniel Inquisition um last time I checked it was a spray rack and not a cloth rack
Karen called, she's upset about her holes.
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