Do South Indian Christians and Muslims have Middle Eastern Ancestry? Syriac Christians of Kerala
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- Do South Indian Christians and Muslims have Middle Eastern ancestry? Politics and society in South India and Sri Lanka have long been characterized under racial, ethnic and religious division, and today, we're going to be discussing some of the various ethnoreligious groups of Southern South Asia, such as the Saint Thomas Christians, Sri Lankan Moors, Burghers and others!
These are going to be some sensitive subjects we're going to cover today, so I'm going to be as objective and non-biased as possible. Let me know your thoughts on these South Asian ethnic groups in the comments below! Thanks for watching!
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Greetings from an Ethiopian Christian, to the Seat of St Thomas.
Ethiopian and Indian Syrian are the oldest Christian community in the world
Greetings
Syrians Christians and Jews were massacred when Portuguese started colonization of Southern India. Syrian Christians split into two Catholic faction which owned alligience to Roman Pope while the other group owned alligience to Syrian patriarch with keeping their independent Indian identity.
I'm a Syrian Christian, we are Malayalis and Indians.
Non Christains were Burned with Stick straight through their mouth..
kmajinad That is what European colonialist arrogance is like. They insult the Indian with trinkets for trade and prove one more time that the church in Rome is even more dangerous than the empire that preceded it. The St.Thomas Christian's have a much more authentic Christianity than the hedonistic, romanized european version.
@thomas samson You're humble? Claiming to speak for Jesus? Don't bother with me unless you do more than just attack. I actually stated historical documents. If this was court you would loose big. Not once did I speak on individual salvation or character unlike you. Your inclination towards personal attacks as opposed to making statements that are in anyway rooted in reality is clear. I know and read history and not just one side. Based on your response you react based on ego and ego alone. Good luck with that and trying to get past those pearly gates. If you're mad because you didn't like me stating that Rome has rewritten history then stick to that not attacking personal character. Jesus is not you or me so don't act like everything that comes out of your mouth is from God Himself. Show some humility. You're the only one doing any castigating. I've read the good book and I know I'm flawed. I don't get that from your ego driven emotionally charged and thoroughly lacking in tact and any semblance of fact answer. Do yourself a favour and don't assume God's favour. St. Thomas along with the promised Comforter and no other was responsible for Christianity in India and no other institution. That statement should not upset any Christian unless they care more about their church than the Gospel of Jesus itself. God bless you but do not bother with me unless you show more tact, humility and love.
@thomas samson Sounds like the only hatred here is from you. Remember they called the apostles all kinds of names for stating facts. Your attempt at character assassination is going no where with me. I welcome God's judgement over your blind hatred any day. The difference between you and me is you assume you speak for God and I don't. I asked you not to bother with me if you can't be Christ like and not only did you ignore that but as anyone who lacks truth you attack my personal relationship with God Himself thinking you will be with such arrogance. God is love so love don't assume your status with Him is more than it is.
@thomas samson And you say hatred is coming from me. God is love and you are not God.
This is freaking fascinating. I never knew. A group of Christians located waaaaay far away from traditionally Christian lands but NOT the product of European missionaries!
King Kong you mean a "hop, skip, and a jump" away? LOL
I mean there were so many trade routes in that southern region of India. In ancient times, India had so many trade relations with Jews, Arabs, Syrians, Chinese, Greeks etc.
The first Muslim mosque built in India was in Kerala in the 7th century.
The first European to discover India, was when he arrived at the shores of Kerala.
Portugues Christian missionaries arrived in Kerala and Goa.
@@wackyruss I am a syrian christian from kerala , Our church is under the holy see of patriarch of Antioch , Syria.
Kerala christians(nasrani ) claim jewish ancestry since the initial converts to christianity were jewish settlers in malabar(present kerala ) from saint thomas(AD52)
Then they got evolved to indian tradition. After many years then came influence from chaldean church and then came east syriac (aramaic ) litergy.
At present this caste is splitted into many churches
Roman catholic being largest (44 million ), orthodox(25 million ), jacobite (12million ) and so on
@@christo_sajy24 yes ezhutiyappo Angane aayi poyata
I am a south indian hindu from Kerala. I have seen many Christians with roots far before European invasions. Their culture is totally different from the European Christians, however they have adopted the new way of living nowadays.
True
gypsy freak . It's true buddy. The attire, the praying method, cultural forms like dances etc of the pre- European Christians in south India are very different. They are more "indianised" and are very closer to hindu customs. Even the churches look more like a hindu temple. We can still see similar places in Kerala.
gypsy freak ,there is a group of xtians called "knanaya xtians"...those who came from "kanan" area of middle east...
plus ancient xtians in Kerala like Jacobite's ,orthodox,Syrian catholics and all are more indianised than other xtian groups who were recently converted from hinduism by British Protestants missionaries like CSI,CMS,marthomite,penthacostal...etc..
many churches in Kerala have lamps resembling traditional lamps in Hindu temples...these ancient xtians are exotic to india..and belong to the eastern orthodox groups like...Greek,Russian ,abyssian and Syrian ...
Vimal Govind very correct observations. Being a malayali i see lot of churches with flag masts known as 'kodi maram' which is feature of hindu temple. Another adaptation is use of large stone lamp called 'kall vilakku'. And your argument that they arrived before European traders is baseless.
M ex - according to Masaman, a small group of christians did arrive directly from the Levant way before Europe was even Europe yet. Listen again.
I'm a Indian Hindu, I grew up in Eastern India kolkata, I saw so many European nuns coming to churches nearby every year,
They were really sweet and friendly, I was a child, didn't used to speak English then,
Though i could understand them by their smile and fond gestures. They used to come to the churches for any reason.
I grew up in a orthodox Hindu family, we have a temple in the house its like having a private church in your backyard
The wonderful thing was, my parents never asked me to stay away or not to talk with those nuns, they never restricted me from going inside the church with them, I was a child and never really had any love for any Jesus or shiva but I treasured those cookies they used to give from church for free, for whatever reason it was Really beautiful memory I just remembered watching this video.
Miss those days and those fond nuns
smartestnameever THE ONE the cosmopolitan Kolkatan culture has been influenced quite a lot by Christianity - otherwise we non-Christians wouldn't have been so involved in the Christmas festivities. And hell it's as good as one of our own festivals.
I liked that DP profile friend !........thats the truth of this life and all religions can take the back seat...
Although being born into a syriac christian community I dont give a shit about any religion including mine.....my first preference is human equality and justice for all homosapiens on this planet....I detest all religious bigots.
Bee zow du du zopity Bob Bob bob Jesus loves you and you can pray anything to him and he will do it for you. He’s God and God alone
@@magnified4827 Funny I care about humans and my God, Jesus. :-)
I am also from Bengal
Indian subcontinent is one of the most mixed and diverse region in the world
Elias Frahat are north indians From middle eastern decent? like sikhs
폭탄TEMPORARY no
I’m Punjabi (Sikh) my ancestry dna test said 100% South Asian. No middle eastern, no African etc Idk how accurate that is but it makes a little sense to me.
U r wrong....They r converted not mixed
@@TemporaryBomb wrong..sikhs are not from middle eastern descent
Bro I'm an assyriac Christian from Kerala and I just wanted to point out that we the people of Kerala speak the language of 'മലയാളം'('Malayalam') and we call our selves 'മലയാളികൾ' ( in English:' Malayalees')
🤭✋✋😍pwoli
*Mallus
We are Malayali/Mallu🌴🇮🇳🦾
Heyy am syrian Christian (Marthoma Nazrani ) I doesn't hear abt Assyriac Christians what's that
@@Maria-ec9sb Hey, yeah😅! I just got the terms confused. Now, what I meant was which you pointed out in the comment
The language spoken in the state of Kerala is called "Malayalam". A person who talks Malayalam as a mother tongue is called a "Malayalee". Dont get it mixed up. Love the video.
I'm Ethiopian Orthodox and I can attest to you that it is not a white man's religion all of us Orthodox Christians are definitely in League with the first church and also a part of that is the Indian Church thanks for mentioning this it's very important and a lot of people don't know that I get into the base about this all the time
Orlando Greenhill it's not white people who claim it is, fml
Orlando Greenhill Fam you need to be more careful when writing your messages it's hard to understand what you're saying. It's mostly atheists who argue that Christianity is the white mans religion when in fact the only reason why it was (no longer is) white dominated is because Europeans were one of the few groups who kept the Islamic invaders at bay.
@@MrKmas508 incorrect
Christianity is White Man’s religion is a propaganda spread by haters of Christianity. Good to read a comment from a person from Ethiopian Orthodox Church. I’m also a proud member of Indian Orthodox Church, which follows the traditions laid in Kerala, India, by St. Thomas, one of the 12 disciples of Jesus, in AD 52🙂
@@Dragon_Ball_Z70 I'm familiar with the indian church they are our sister churches and I've revived quarban there. One thing to keep in mind is the history of why some people are saying "christianity is the white man's religion " although I know it isn't. I as a foundational black American can't ignore the reason many of my back ground believe that . It's the way the religion had been twisted and how white supremacist used to dominate, enslave, subjugate and pacify many black people with their devilish white superiority complex intentions. Unfortunately the western church was in lock step with it . We as orthodox Christians know that our tradition had nothing to do with that - especially us afro asian rooted churches. But what was done in the name of our faith has had a ripple effect that even lasts till this day and age. We have to dismantle such a demonic ideology as white supremacy expose and do away with it. And not ignore the effects its had. The earlier Christians were the ancient examples of how we should live . If you have any questions about this let me know. The propaganda isnt our fault Christianity didnt start as "white dominsted " to begin with
I'm Syriac Christian (Assyrian) and we love Mar Aprem and our brothers and sisters in Kerala.
Binary-Technique I am also syriac Christian but I am nat assyrian ,I am Aramean .
Binary-Technique love brother
Binary-Technique im an orthodox convert and ive been and celebrated at both malankarian and syroyo churches
Me too!
Orlando Greenhill tihi suryoye oromoye .
An underappreciated truth; the original Christian peoples came out of the Middle East and North Africa long before it even got a solid foothold let alone becoming the dominant religion in Europe. When Christianity was dominant and spreading in the Middle East and North Africa (up until the rise of Islam), most ethno-European cultures were still practicing paganism.
Not all "brown people" are the same, fucktard. By the way, the only surviving relative of those European pagan religions is Hinduism, kept alive for over 3,000 years by--you guessed it--"brown people"!
Why didn't "muh ancestors" preserve their culture even though India did through a nationwide Muslim occupation (Mughal) and then a Christian one (British)? Not that it fucking matters, go worship some tree spirit goddess you racist fuck
Come on man! Thanks Mr Smartass,we had no idea that Christianity originated outside of Europe!
This is not "truth." The first Christians were NOT Arab, they were Levantine, Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Greek, Roman, and Anatolian. Some of these peoples are "European" while others are mostly West Asian (genetically). Whether or not these people are "brown" depends on who you ask. Ask a northern European, then yes they are "brown." Ask someone from India or Arabia, and most of these people are "white."
"Brown people" is a mostly-arbitrary and ridiculously stupid qualification. Many southern Europeans are more "brown" than West Asians, especially before Islam. By the time these people became "Arab" (as in their first language was Arabic), they were no longer Christians.
Simeon BK Okay I had the wrong info.
Sorry, it just bothers me when people claim that pre-Islamic Levantine and Mesopotamian people were Arab. Arabs heavily erased their identities, with a relatively small number of Assyrians/Chaldeans, Mandeans, Arameans, Copts, Maronite/Phoenicians, and Samaritans left. Then, of course, there's the Jews, but that's a different discussion because Jews moved around so much.
Whenever people say "Jesus was an Arab," I get it that they're saying he wasn't European (which is of course true), but what they're saying is blatantly false. He was an Aramaic-speaking Jew (as in genetically/ethnically Levantine). He had almost nothing to do with the people of Arabia, who took over the region 600 years later, mixed with the existing population, and imposed their language/religion on the locals.
Most of the pictures displayed in this vedio are not the photos of Syrian Christians in Kerala. Some are pictures of North Indians and Tamilians.
Dude I'm only 2 minutes in, and im slowing the speed to .75 so I can absorb better. THIS is the kind of religious history I'm looking for.
Im about to sub, and THANK YOU!!
Interesting and informative video, and surely appreciated. One minor comment: the people of Kerala are generally called Malayalis (pronounced Malayalees) but the language they speak is Malayalam (malay-aa-lum) :)
I remember watching a video about the origins of north africans, and I remember being impressed with the quality of the content, especially since oft cited misconceptions weren't present.
This channel looks promising and trustworthy
Another incredible video! Really interesting topic. I knew about the Ethiopian Christians but not the ones in India. I thought that Christianity only spread there recently due to Missionaries that traveled there during the British rule. Love your vids and your topics are always enlightening.
No they inherit the aramean christianism not the racist one of europeans racist against blacks , jews and arabs because of the interpretation of Noahcurse against Cham the blacks ancestor who is also the root of racism in islam and judaism
but we can find racists in lIBANESE christians too who are allied to europeans and were influenced by racism of muslim leaders , Muhammad not included , ( slavery toward blacks) but syrian and iraki christians are not racists and they are closed Nasrani christians
The only thing missionaries did was convert some people in Goa and other parts of North India. They didn't need to convert christians in south as they were already there since 1st century.What the missionaries did do was make those churches self governing Catholic Churches. However,the traditions did not fade...
I am a Assyrian Christian from kerala india.❤
Believe in jesus ✝️
I am a a Syro Indian Christian from India, my ancestors used to speak Aramaic, later we lost the language and we are using the local language now.
How much south indian dna do you people have?🤔
we lost everything when portugese came with kozhukatta (steam bread)
@Frederik Ferdinand George interesting
facts
@@nitinreddy1592 now it's all mixed..you see Kerala muslims are called moors they have Arabic mixed ancestry and for years Jews were settled in Kerala who flee current Palestine/Israel and they left Kerala when Israel was established...and Syrian Christians on other hand...so only keralites have bit fair complexion then compared to co South indians
Bro- your videos are some of the most interesting I have seen on youtube. i have been watching for months. Keep up the good work!!!
I am Assyrian/Syriac. You're missing some info that the st. Thomas Christians of Kerala adhere to the Church of the East which originates from Northern Iraq (Assyria) rather than the Levant. Church of the East employs Syriac (medieval dialect of Mesopotamian Aramaic) as the liturgical language.
Thanks for the input! Isn't the Assyrian homeland considered to be in the Levant though?
Masaman assyrians are indigenous to mesopotomia.
Levant? No, the traditional, historical Assyrian homeland is Northern Iraq, Eastern Syria, South Eastern Turkey, and North Western Iran; Basically Mesopotamia. Where did you get the info that said the Levant?
ܚܢܘ ܚܢܐ
لا يكون زعلان من العرب 😜 حبيبنا السرياني🌷😊
lah wa-lah
i have been wondering about this, being a syrian christian myself. thanks for the upload
You identity as Syrian or Malayali Indians
@@spiscold50 malayali indians,but our caste is syriani christians
@@bibinthomas5282 I don't think caste is the right word...😂
@@spiscold50
"Syriac" refers to the language used for prayer services. It has little to do with syria. Although the language itself probably originated in syria
@@bibinthomas5282
Sect not caste
Nice to see my fellow Christians in India get some love! :)
Interesting historical references. Thank you.
You upload videos so often that I'm afraid you will run out of material soon, but your videos are amazing!!
Great work, you could do a similar video about christians in ancient China, the expedition of Alopen and the nestorian stele.
For sure.
Antonio Carbone SERIOUSLY?? CHINA??
You could also mention the Chinese right developed by the Jesuits, ultimately forbidden by Rome due to the interpretation of the Chinese concepts like God.
legofreak446 patience legofreak. It's a little difficult for me to completely grasp the ethnic situation of China.
Antonio Carbone Nesotrians are Syriac Christians also, it's out sister church also known as the Assyrian Church of the East. It expanded from Syria all the way to Japan.
Great research man! I am a South Indian and I didn't know this much about our origins! Keep the good work going and I'm waiting for your video on Anglo - Indians 😉
Great straightforward infomation
Amazing that you even covered this. Already had respect for the work done on your part. This could be considered a very nich topic . My Grandmothers family originated from Southern India and my Grandmother kept Saturday Sabbath as the original St. Thomas Christians did. I just watched a song and dance handed down allegedly from the time of St.Thomas. God Bless the Nasrani or Nazariens.
Can you do a video about the Assyrian people (including the ones that call themselves Chaldeans and Arameans) ?
John Toma
Lol
xXxX xXxX what's funny
I can explain it short for you since I am Aramean. Assyrians and Chaldeans are the same people. They split cause of the churches. Arameans are a different ethnicity which got conquered by the Assyrian empire way back. So Arameans and Assyrians started mixing.
Why was photo of Amit Shah there!!?? Lol
He is a parsi
@@nishathresiammabastian627 he's a Jain!
@@TilakKamath he's neither a Parsi or a jain.
Shah is an Indian surname to which relates to Sahu and Often used by traders. People confuse it with "Shah" surname used by Persians where it means ruler or King.
He's from Jain family but accepted Hinduism. There's nothing stopping a Jain from worshipping Hindu gods or vice versa however on paper they are separate faiths.
Lmao...wth is it there??
Would love to see you do a video about the ethnic groups of the Middle East, regarding the Assyrians
Awesome. Thank you!
I'm Syrian Christian Kerala
im from kerala, an Orthodox Christian
Who the hell cares !
humanity first.....
I am also an orthodox e
Magnified secularism is empty lies.
Jai Jai Catholicose 💪
@@magnified4827 Doesn't mean one can't be proud of their ancestry.
Nice video, thank you
Nice video, I'd like to see a video about the rise, spread and splitting of Buddhism
These things are unknown to people in west. Thanks for video Masaman..
Raavan Reloaded nice fairy tale
Raavan Reloaded last time there was force conversion in India happend back in 16th century during the Portuguese Inquisition in Goa(South India)
Raavan Reloaded by the way i'm half Keralite and my people in Kerala(South India) don't need North Indian fools like you
Now in india spread missionary terrorist...forcing to convert chrishnity
Purnanand Purnanand yeah yesterday i converted one chrishnankutty😂😂
Luv the vid
Good job on this video man you covered it
Wow very informative!!
Many of these Kerala Christians (and some Hindus) moved to the Fort Worth/Dallas area, and I became acquainted with them at the Boeing plant in Irving. Their surnames were commonly adapted to the English variant (Thomas, Abraham, James, etc.), not uncommon for any immigrant group. Some in Kerala still "practice caste" among themselves.
They refer to the Nestorian church they are associated with as "The Church of the East"; not sure if it is the same as the Mar Toma Syrian Church. The appearance of them and others from Kerala seems quite different from other Dravidians, probably from the thousands of years of contact with the Middle East. Some have claimed that the words for ivory, apes, and peacocks in the Biblical passage about Ophir are the same in Hebrew and Malayalam, but has that been verified? Apparently, the ancient traders used seasonal winds when sailing between Kerala and he Middle East.
Finally we got a space among the history of many traditional churches
Masaman..i love your videos but please make a video about the indigenous Assyrians of Iraq/Syria/Iran/Turkey
Thnx for making a vedio regarding India
Can you make a video about European ethnic groups and notably a basque people video
I second this: The Basques are pretty interesting.
Erudito otidurE they're Celts that speak Spanish
+Anarky Their original language is non-Indo-European, sooooo, nope, not Celts, and didn't originally speak Spanish.
can you do a video on the persian-speaking regions outside of Iran: Western Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan
Check out my video here: th-cam.com/video/z26S0XgduYc/w-d-xo.html
Can you make a video about the history of SOuth East Asia especially on the Malayan archipelago. It's very interesting imo
Awesome video! It would be great if you make a video about migration in Bangladesh because some of us do look quite different to each other.
Hossen Ali Mir ,I think that's racial mixing..!!..indo Aryans getting mixed up with tibeto burman groups...as you can see east of Bangladesh is almost 100,% tibeto burman group...so logically the mixing would have happened in Bangladesh..!!..
jayesh prakash Indo-Aryan is Punjabi language too. Indo-Aryan are found in Punjabi as well. Nice try.
Brown Punjabi Indo-Aryan ain't Punjabi language but Punjabi is a Indo-Aryan language like Bengali, Gujrati, Kashmiri, Odiya, Asaamese, Nepali, Bhojpuri, Marathi etc.
Brown Punjabi ,Punjabi may be indo Aryan language..but here the context was Bangladeshi anthropological differences...as you can see..east of Bangladesh is Mizoram,Tripura,nagaland,meghalaya etc..which is tibetoburman ..so naturally there will be some mixing of indo Aryans and tibeto burmans in Bangladesh..that's why there is some variation in appearance of people..also language group and people may be different in some areas...eg...in turkey..language is Turkish..but people are not that Turkic..they mainly resemble Greek and eastern Europeans..
jayesh prakash I don't care. You just want to steal culture and religion, because that's your white privileged. Act everyone.
No wonder some Kerala Christians and Muslims have some Middle Eastern resemblances !
Like me
Yes They consist of Foreign ancestors from DNA test(Google)(especially European jews)
@Mr Shekelbergstein It is reported. Check out from google
@Mr Shekelbergstein jews from eastern Europe. This is From Google Official Website 👉the Syrian Christians of Kerala have some Jewish ancestry. In recent times talk of Jewish descent became prevalent 10 to 15 years ago ,Many Syrian Christian families got themselves tested and found that they carry Jewish markers like CMH(Cohen Modal Haplotype) and others.
@@spiscold50 mainly kottayam Christians and mappila Muslims.
I'm a Nasrani. My dad's family belongs to the earlier christian group and Moms family to the group that came from Assyria in 900AD. :)
How do you know..
Masaman, can you do a video on the Vikings/Norse men who traveled to North America and Greenland?
Can you do a video on the Basque people?Thaks enjoy your vids very informative
Yup facts are facts . I'm a Christian from Kerala.
FRANZ NICHOLAS Vadakkoot what is your ethnicity ?
warrior race maybe Shudra because Indian Christians follows caste system that made by Britishers to destroy Hindu by converting them in Christianity
Aryan Dravidian thing is actually accepted in South..
The south is kept down by the dominant north (although south contribute more to GDP).
Most ministers are from North.
Malayalam and Tamil are to Dravidian languages and they were not derived from sanskrit.
Actually sanskrit is a non Indian language.
Because of christian influence state of kerala has the highest literacy (many schools and colleges owned by church)
Then North indians look down on christians and say they were converted by missionaries..
But nasranis were bramins and changed to christianity before 2000 years , while most north indians are migrants form Afghanistan and north east Asia.
@@Nilabh13 actually they where brahmins mixed with Syrians. Check the dna. They have j haplogroup ie Arab/syrian and r1a brahmins haplogroup. Just look history.
@Mas Gonderawi -timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/39-Christians-converted-to-Hinduism-in-Kerala/articleshow/48139149.cms
-th-cam.com/video/BWaC9hA4iho/w-d-xo.html
There are Christians in India who practice the caste system, and even discriminate among lower castes which encouraged them to convert to other religions such as Hinduism. And these are non-forceful conversions.
This was awesome! Thank you!
Thanks for making video about South Indian Christians
Could you make a vidoe about what every race is mixed with? Like horn of africa is miced niolotic and north africans
Sounds like an interesting topic.
That would have to cover every "race" on earth lmao; everyone is a little "mixed", because no population in history has remained 100% endogamous. It's much more efficient for him to cover individual populations, and discuss what admixture those specific populations have... which is what he's already doing lmao
horners and nilotics just have shared ancestry, it doesn't mean we're part nilotic. modern nilotisc in sudan are 20-30%> central African, horners have no central african dna. whatever group horners are mixed with is extinct in its pure form.
Kikuyu Kiiru
in east africa it is a little bit more complicated
they never have been pure blooded,expansion of western africans "blacked "them a little bit,populations that came back from the east bleached them
but genetically one of the modern races was newer until recently dominant in that region
and you are correct about europeans being clean from sub saharan dna and mostly from asian dna
but caucasian outside of europe mixing with asians ... i know "caucasian russians "hat could pass in peking,and indo european dna was found in west china,even in america mixed with asians
Kikuyu Kiiru That's if you're using the broad "racial" categories of Black, white, east Asian, etc. I'm using it in the same way Masaman does, to refer to more narrow populations, i.e. ethnic groups. Most White Americans are entirely white, sure, but they tend to be a mix of European ethnic groups. White Europeans, meanwhile, tend to have a little admixture from each of their neighbors, as do most African and Asian populations.
I.am a chaldean Syrian from india thanks alot for making this video.....assyria will rise again....
Oh wow where are you in India?
You don’t make sense you can’t be Chaldean and Syrian since they’re both considered as ethnicities.
@@zangief8098 There is a Chaldean Church in Kerala
Awesome video man! Great research and accuracy is a much needed breeze of fresh air amongst a barrage of populist propaganda videos out here. Keep up the good work! Subscribed.
Kudos to your research. I do a lot of research on the same. If you require more insight, I am happy to help you.
Am Jacobite Syrian Christian from Kerala ❤️ I ❤️ my Indian .I love my Hindu brothers ❤️
My mother's gynecologist in Montreal is a Christian from Kerala.
And thanks for mentioning the Cochin Jews rather extensively!!!! Those, plus other Jews in India, haven't experienced anti-Semitism to nearly the same extent as their coreligionists in Christian Europe and in Muslim countries.
Cochin Jews were converts
Great video! Keep it up!
Thank you!
Masaman can you please make a video on the Knanaya people within the St thomas christian community who claim to be descended from Thomas of Cana, from Edessa
@King Kong I am not a knananite. But your attitude towards black people is visible in your comments. Black Jews are part of lost ten tribes of Israel.
@@Masaman Plz give more care while selecting images because almost none of this represented us. You even put a politician who is not Christian😂
Dude i would love to make content like you, could you share how you research your topics.
Interesting video
Great.. But please update your video with actual images of kerala syrian christians.Only few are syrian christians in this video.
Don't know if this has been pointed out but Malayalam is the name of the language. Malayali refers to the people. Mallu is a slang term also referring to the people. Also Tamil is pronounced with the emphasis on the first syllable.
Other than that, great video as always!
Dil Jem true. I hate it when people call me Mallu or if I speak Kerala.
Dil Jem I am a Malayali born in a Syrian Jacobite family but truly understood the gospel much later.
Julia Paul Yeah I can imagine. It's funny how ignorant some Indians can be of their own country.
AFAIK Indian languages, both Dravidian and Indo-Aryan, are not stress-based languages.
The pictures you chose in the video were all over the place man.
One instance 3:54 - shows Amit Shah, who is not a Christian, nor a Muslim and not even a South Indian. There's absolutely no connection with the video. Not to mention, he is the party leader of a right wing party based on hindutva idealogies.
- A Nasrani from Kerala.
Thanks for the heads up. I use Google Images to get all my pictures and don't always have time to vet and confirm whether they are accurate depictions of the subject matter.
Debabrata Panja he is not jain. He has confirmed that many times
Aryan Dravidian thing is actually accepted in South..
The south is kept down by the dominant north (although south contribute more to GDP).
Most ministers are from North.
Malayalam and Tamil are to Dravidian languages and they were not derived from sanskrit.
Actually sanskrit is a non Indian language.
Because of christian influence state of kerala has the highest literacy (many schools and colleges owned by church)
Then North indians look down on christians and say they were converted by missionaries..
But nasranis were bramins and changed to christianity before 2000 years , while most north indians are migrants form Afghanistan and north east Asia.
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Debabrata Panja he proved you wrong and you are pissed about the fact you got caught about Mr shah.
So when will you people stop demonizing us Hindus .
Bruh this lit and educational
I'm a Syro-Malabar Catholic and the history roughly goes like this:
St.Thomas came to Kerala by sea in A.D 52 and established the "7 and a half churches".
The Church came in contact with East Syriac bishops and adopted the East Syriac liturgy.
The Portuguese, visited India, colonized Goa and tried to bring the Church to Catholic Church and still retaining the liturgy which was opposed by the minority and the Church was split for the first time at Coonan Cross Oath in 1653.
The majority 'Pazhayakoor' went on to make communion with the catholic church and the other side 'Puthenkoor' went to be with the Church of the East and that faction, after 10 years adopted West Syriac liturgy and went on to become the Malankara churches.
The Pazhayakoor faction is still in communion with the Catholic church (The sui iuri church called Syro-Malabar Catholic Church) but a small group in the city of Thrissur went back to the Church of the East(Assyrian Church).
Currently, Malankara churches use the West Syriac liturgy while Syro-Malabar Church and the Assyrian church(Church of the East) use East Syriac liturgy.
So this why majority of the Kerala population looks different from Tamils. Mixing between Arabs, Christians has altered their look.
Yes but syrian Christians and mapilla Muslims of kerala where previosly brahmins(Aryans) who where mixed mith arabs/syrians/Jews. You can check history. That's why most kerala people look fairer than many North Indian states people.
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@Mr Shekelbergstein No I am Christian (Roman catholic)
@Mr Shekelbergstein yeah From kerala
@Mr Shekelbergstein what?
Hey.Can you do a video about the Muslims of South Karnataka and Northern Kerala ??
I think a video on Far East Christians would be really cool
Syro-malabar💪
Syrian💟 Syriac💟 سوريا💟
Syriac are Christian’s
FYI: It's TA-mil, like Mark Hammil from Star Wars. At least it's pronounced that way in english. Why this kolivari di? I don't know.
I have no idea why u added amith shah's pic in between explaning about christians.
Anyway u did a good research bravo
Which is yoir country of origin?
South india is a great example that,
Religion is a beliefs, faith n personal opinion towards God
Not a Culture,
Culture is a Life style
Religion is a Beliefs
Well that was until Portuguese and Tipu sultan
Great video! I have made some evengelical Americans cry when I tell them the story of St Thomas, who braved the lands of the enemies and built a church for his savior, a church isolated from the Western churches for 1500 years!
So, are the hindu heathens enemy to the church?
@@MrLikea8055 No Hindus were very supportive to us in those days until today.
@@jeswinmathew9494 my question was pointed to the part of the comment."in the land of the enemies".so are hindu's supportive yet fostered enmity.and since you have used "until today" ,so are they enemies now?
@@MrLikea8055 No , in the past Majority of the christian churches are built by the land given by hindu kings, at that time Kerala was a collection of small kingdoms, so kings tried to increase trade by welcoming us to their kingdoms by giving us extra rights. kerala syrian christians are a migratory people like jews who frequently moved for trade and economic oppertunities.
In my life i never experienced anything bad from hindus.Instead i was respected for being a nasrani.
wow, this stories are awesome.
That's pretty interesting actually.
Good review of Christianity in Kerala.
If only I was born as a burger..
A small correction! There was no language called Malayalam in 52AD. It was branched off from Tamil only around 7-8th century AD.
In Old Malayalam, we find words such as Irunnu, Vannu etc and the similar use of the consonant 'Nja' as in Modern Malayalam. Proto-Malayalam is indeed the right word and NOT Tamil as known by all linguists.
It was much before 7th century.
No
It's not branched off from Tamil.
Tamil and malayalam has a common ancestral language
Nope
Interesting history of Christians in Kerala & Sri Lanka.
Even islam came to India through south India. A Kerala king travelled to arabia and visited Prophet Muhammad himself and assured him he built a mosque in his country,but he did not convert.Islam spread in a peaceful manner in south india unlike north india or Pakistan.
Can you do a video about the Catalan People?
I'll have to do some more research, all I know is that they really want independence from Spain. (But then again, who *doesn't* want independence these days?)
Masaman Yea true getting independence is fun but yea I love ALL of you video and I'm looking forward for the video about the Catalans. :)
what the hell is a catalan? what about KASHMIR
Free Catalonia!
Free Galicia!
Free Xinjiang!
Free Tibet!
Free West Papua!
Free Kurdistan!
Do videos on all of these :P
Dil Jem some west Papuan freedom fighter was surrender few months ago due to the better policy of jakarta
I am a keralit.
I need more source citation of articles and orginal source used for this video.
Could you please do that.....
Hey what happened to that Arabia video? Taken down or something too controversial maybe.
Myself iam a Syriac Orthodox Christian from malakara(kerala). Most of our rites and rituals are a mixture of middle eastern Christian , native hindu and some Jewish traditions. Syriac is used along with native tongue in prayers and chants. There is a saying that "Marthoma Christians are Christians by religion and Hindus by rituals". It's so evident in marriages and other celebrations. Iam proud of that history and heritage we inherited and saddened that most of it is getting drained away due to Western/ Latin inflence. The uniqueness and beauty of Syrian rite should be preserved. The community is definitely one of oldest in the world of christiandom . And as far as the genetics is concerned it is definitely a mixture of Dravidian, Indo-aryan and middle eastern ancestry taking into consideration the amount of trade relations, conversations and successive migrations the land have witnessed.
King Kong Hinduism as we know today was different from the indigenous Indian religion before the Aryan migration to the sub - continent. The deities and rituals differ all across India even in the lines of cast!! But it's collectively called Hinduism (I don't know how apt the term really is). So you can call it by that name I guess.
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clorox bleach . You are sermonising history which was given to you by the Colonists, through Max Muller who after 7 years of Sanskrit study converted our history for his master Britain.
@clorox bleach check history. They where brahmins clans who got mixed
@@arunreghunathan8475 he's an ezhavan who came to propagate that all india was ezhavas . Don't reply to him
Assyrian here!
Big fan by the way, but what about one on Sufis?
Most of the Images which you have shown in the video are not Marthoma Nasrani's.
Christianity came to kerala before it was even established in rome.. there were christians from ad52 onwards. And the 7 churches rstablished by st thomas are still in existence..
King Kong rome has done nothing against nasranis... In fact rome saved their faith from the notorious nestorian ideology... it was a good thing majority of the mar thoma chrostians are now under vatican...
Burgher is German for someone who lives in a town, Bourgeoisie comes from Burgher
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 No, it's "Bürger" in German, so you're wrong.
Bürger comes from old german "Burgari" which morphed into "Burgverteidiger" which means " defender of the castle " . Burg still means castle in modern German.
Mason, can you talk about the ethnic groups and the religious group of India before 1947.
As in elaborate on the major ethnic and religious shifts that occurred in areas of the former British Raj? Sounds like a good way to stir the pot
Masaman Yeah because it's very hard to find the religious census of India before 1947 and I heard life was different before the partition.
Masaman Also Mason, forgot to mention but also include but also try to do a video of about sikhs in modern day Bangladesh before 1947 and where they go.
You are pronouncing Sephardi wrong although I love your videos!
Lots of Indians are mixed with Dravidian, Indo European, Semitic, Tibeto Burman, Mongolic, Altaic, and other groups
King Kong . Could not find your comment on the D N A published by Marunadan of Knanaya about fake Endogomy.
muslims and hindus of malabar also have central asian DNA because of their scythian ancestry.
Nice video bro ur facts r very aqurate 👍👍 please do a video on Dravidian people of India nd Pakistan
Sujnyan Jambarmath lol Why you want Dravidians video? lol Everyone came from Africa, Dravidians look African. Just like Aryan look European.
@Arun Nair " Upper class give people skin color " Best explanation here for Darwin's theory of evolution !! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nair#/media/File:Nair_woman.jpg Looking at this remind me a tribal human being
@Brown Punjabi" Dravidians is a race of Africans "where is the evidence ?
So where is this so called Aryans and Europeans come from ???
James Laden what's wrong with being black? European is ok, but hate on black
please ,Do Balkans that have Egyptian genitics
Do a video on goans and mangalorean catholoic