Timey Winey 15 card Precon Upgrade Guide!
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- The eleventh doctor deck tech. A Precon upgrade for the dr who universe beyond decks.
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Not sure if anyone mentioned but the time travel mechanic is a may ability and you choose to add or remove counters. So in the case with stuff with suspend, of course remove counters. Stuff with vanishing, you would choose to add time counters unless it has a good effect when it leaves.
I had no idea thank you for the clarification I’ll pin your comment so others can see 😁
@@decktechsfordecks no problem, I was working on this deck with Indominus Rex on the side and thought it'd be fun to have a jeskai time counter deck.
@@decktechsfordecksHi, so would you consider keep Four knocks no that you know this or still doesn't make the cut for you?
Also i think you forgot to add the moxfield link this time.
Great video as always!
People assume suspend is a strict progression from exile to cast, but actually, from a non-linear non-subjective point of view, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timery-countery, stuff...
In addition to keeping Vanishing cards on the board, you might add counters to suspended cards if you want to confuse your enemies plans or if the board state has changed sufficiently post suspension. With the Tenth Doctor and 7 mana on the field, any suspended card at 4 or less counters is at risk of being cast on the Doctors next turn, or being cast n+1 turns later, depending on the whims of the Doctor player.
Like the Atraxi Warden that got cut because you can see it coming a mile away. With the Tenth Doctor you could make it happen sooner, but if people are "playing around it" by not tapping their creatures worth removing... well delay it by adding a counter or two and abuse their caution; having a big attacker or tap ability hang back because they're afraid of the removal spell that's hanging around like a sword of Damocles, is value in itself.
It might not be enough to save the Atraxi, but it's something to keep in mind when playing the deck. You might hit a spell off the Tenth Doctors first ability that you'd like to delay because it doesn't have targets or is otherwise not beneficial at the turn it would naturally cast, such as a board wipe or a kill spell when you're the only one with a board; you can just keep pushing it back until you have a use or need for it.
@@mateumitjans5281Thank you! Also yes it’s definitely worth an include now the updated cuts are in the moxfield ling in the description 😊
The way The War Doctor is written is actually completely insane! It says, "whenever a card is put into exile from anywhere, you get a time counter." They don't have to stay in exile. They just have to touch the exile zone, and you get a counter. So, Cascade and Blink abilities will trigger. Not to mention all of the impulse draw stuff. That's insane. I'm gonna put him in my Isshin deck.
Right he’s honestly going to be busted!
But don't forget that it says one or more. So no matter how many cards you see with your cascade, you only get one time counter.
In my play tests, I actually find War to be too slow in the deck. You need to play him and wait for him to build up, and considering he’s a removal card, there’s a good chance someone is going to remove it.
I’ve actually begun to make a second doctor who deck with War and Yasmin Khan as the companion. The deck would be Boros instead of Jeskai but the combo is draw power plus removal, and War will get a counter every time you use Yasmin’s ability.
@@GermanGoodGuy This is actually incorrect. It has been ruled that cards on cascade are exiled individually. So it's better than it looks!
Run for your life and psychic paper are great for making Rose unblockable. She needs to attack to get her first few time counters, and you can target her with Run for your life after she’s been on the board for a while and is already massive.
You 100% need a Training Grounds. It’s an auto-include for any commander with an activated ability requiring mana
Taking advantage of the fact you have two commanders is a good route for upgrading as well. Backgrounds are more viable. Vexilus Praetor is cool too, double the protection from everything.
I run Vexilus Praetor for my 11th Doctor/Amy deck. Makes them unblockable and stick around longer
I also run double strike enablers since my 11th Doctor/Amy deck is chock full of combat damage to a player triggers
Sublime Archangel is cool for it too, since I can make them unblockable, then exalted buffs them after to win through commander damage
Im pretty new to this channel but these videos are very informative, your enthusiasm is unmatched and you can make a couple of cards on screen very exciting with your voice overs, very nice content!
Hell yea I really appreciate that!
I dont know if it was intentional but you said that Sally Sparrow wanted to be in some kind of blink strategy when the episode she debuts in is called Blink. I dont know how the whovians did not catch up on that
I've never played a deck like this one. It seems pretty fun, a lot to keep track of, though
I’ve been cooking with this pre con for a bit and I made a lot of changes to it.
First I replaced rose Tyler with Clara Oswald as she makes your tenths doctors ability to exile from the top again. And if you equip psychic paper on her and change into a doctor, her own ability will make her ability to trigger the Doctor ability again/ or in other terms, make the exile top of library x3. Then I added cards like quantum misalignment (I pulled the card and I ended up really liking it) and also added cards like sphinx of the second sun in there for an extra untap, upkeep and draw. And then run anti-agro cards like propaganda and Chronomatic escape to make sure I don’t die… hopefully.
It’s not in the same precon, but I replaced Rose as the companion with Tegan Jovanka. 3 cost 2/2 that says when you attack, target attacking historic creature gets +1/+1 and indestructible. I find it helps assure that whatever you’re attacking with to trigger 10th will be safe, plus is a good booster.
May I ask how is this deck going? I'm thinking of following the same path with Tegan Jovanka. Btw, do you have the list?
@@brunnomambro353 Sure. The deck I built is a lot better than I thought it would be. I play a lot of cards that give me extra combat steps so I can get 10th’s effect more than one time, along with high cost cards because 10 can give you them for free after a certain amount of turns. Tegan also affects the creature until end of turn so if you get a second combat you can give another creature indestructible. This also works well with board wipes since you can protect some of your own after you attack. I do have an online deck list but it’s yet to be updated, I can send you it after I get to it.
I think adding Aeon Chronicler to this list would be worth it, keeps your hand topped up and works well with the time travel schenanegans
Dont forget about Zirda the training grounds on a creature ❤️ reduce by 4 colorless total with both on board
Dig Through Time is fun card draw to dig 7 cards deep. Gets cheap by exiling from your graveyard (Jeskai doesn’t use much graveyard play anyway)
Plus card fits the flavor of the deck
for four knocks, you could choose to just add a time counter to it therefore making it last even longer, not sure why you would only get 1 trigger from the commander?
I feel like these upgrades feel more like a boa deck then anything else but at the same time it trying to use the effort like crazy too. Still love the idea.❤
I love rose as the partner but what do y’all think of Clara? I feel like having the ability to have an additional trigger of ur commander is pretty nuts.
I think she’s good but super high cost for what she does tbh. One counter spell or removal and she’s now 8 mana to cast again. She should have been 4 mana imo. It would make her much more playable
100% agree with you!@@RoflCannon6
Hi, could you add a moxfield link to check the adds and cuts?
Great video!
The link has been added thabk you for pointing it out !
Cutting run for life and psychic paper is dumb. those are literally 2 of the best cards in the deck it lets you hit someone with rose and if shes stong enough instant kill them.
I dont really understand how you can cast the cards in exile infinite times ( for example you have a card in exile with time counters and then you activate your ability for 7 mana to remove these counters and you cast the card to draw 2 cards for example
so after that is the card exiled again?
Isnt the card removed from the game after casting or doesnt the card land on your graveyard?
Sorry for the bad english i tried my best
Its Refrain specificity, its says "Exile Rousing refrain with three time counters on it"
So you suspend it with its suspend cost or you cast it one time and your gonna get infinite rousing refrain, normally you would have to wait three turns but the 10th doctor ability allow you to remove three time counter on a card. So you remove three, cast rousing refrain add 7 red and then rousing refrain exile itself, so you activate another time the 10th doctor, remove three time counter from rousing refrain, cast it for free, add 7 red, exile itself with three tims counter etc
Of course to be mana postive you would nead an opponent to have more than 7 cards in hand or to reduce the cost of the 10th doctor ability with "training grounds" for example
Can't see it mentioned, and maybe I am missing something, but Rose won't be infiniite power with the time counters as she get +1/+1 for each time counter ON the permenant in exile. You sre removing time counters with the Doctors "Timey-Wimey" ability. So in effect Rose will 'rubber band up and down 3 +1/+1 counters as you put Resouing Refrain into exile, then remove it's time counters. Correct where I am wrong please.
Rose’s bad wolf ability puts time counters on herself 😉
@@decktechsfordecks OH... MY.... GOD...! Thank you! (officially subscribed now. lol)
No problem! It’s easy to do with the small novel they put on cards these days I myself am guilty of it! Welcome aboard 😁
With these changes, what power level this deck becomes?
Between a 6.5 and 7 maybe.
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