The Biggest Mistake People Make When Portrait Painting

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  • In this Portrait Painting Tutorial, realist painter Alex tzavaras talks about one of the biggest mistakes people make when portrait painting - Over Modelling.
    For Alex's course on the fundamentals of oil painting visit:
    / simplifydrawingandpain...
    Over modelling happens when you focus in on each small are of your subject separately and exaggerate the differences in light and dark tonal values in oil painting. If you then exaggerate the tonal values in painting within each small area, you loose the larger value relationships and your image so it no longer appears 3D. This is a really common beginner oil painting mistake.
    To avoid over modelling, you need to see the whole before the parts. You need to establish the larger tonal value relationships by simplifying your subject into 3 or 4 main tonal values. However, simplifying your subject into large value masses is one of the most difficult things we have to do when painting. But in this video, Alex demonstrates what this actually looks like in practice, while an Alla prima portrait from life, using a monochrome or grissaille oil painting technique . He also shows you a really useful tool in Adobe Photoshop, The Median Tool, that you can use to simplify the tonal values for you, when you are working from reference photos.
    Alex Tzavaras is a contemporary realist artist offering portrait painting and alla prima oil painting tutorials. Alex teaches the traditional painting techniques artists used to draw and paint from life up until the start of the 20th century.
    Connect with Alex:
    / alex_tzavaras
    / simplifydrawingandpain...
    / alextzavaras
    alextzavaras.com

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  • @LosoIAm
    @LosoIAm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I have just realised that I can simply take my glasses off and I can see the blocks/forms without having to squint (or use any software); getting a bit closer, I can actually see the four values - OMG!
    Many thanks for the video.

  • @mateuscriatio
    @mateuscriatio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    "Learning to recognize the main values is actualyl one of the most difficult things we have to do when painting. In our everyday lives we dont need to see the whole before the parts, we need to see the item we are looking for in a supermarket shelf, or the number of a bus we waiting for, so our brains have been programmed to focus on detail. Learning to simplify the world into simple light and dark shapes goes against our nature and requires a great deal of effort and practice."
    To me, thats the best teaching in this whole video, thank you for that!

  • @StefanMarjoram
    @StefanMarjoram 2 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    Such a great demonstration. Really clear and informative. I wouldn't worry about repetition - I usually need to be told stuff repeatedly before it goes in :)

  • @stainface4980
    @stainface4980 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Honestly, the median trick changed my life as a painter.
    I have a full education in graphic design, fine art, and illustration so most tips and tricks on youtube and ''advanced photoshop techniques'' are just not useful or new to me, it is so rare to find a small thing like this that just absolutely changes everthing.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's great isn't it. It does what we're supposed to be doing in our heads when we squint at our subjects. One of my students who is a graphic designer showed it to me. I was explaining the idea of simplifying the values, and he was like, "I get it, you want us to do what the median tool does in photoshop". I now use it all the time, when I work from photos, or to critique my online students work.

  • @IkramDrawingZone
    @IkramDrawingZone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Sketching is almost everything. It is the painter’s identity, his style, his conviction, and then color is just a gift to the drawing

    • @MaximeRoman
      @MaximeRoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      beautifully put

  • @nidhimoda605
    @nidhimoda605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I'm a total beginner, and your videos on the fundamentals are super-helpful for me!
    Proportions, Values, Edges and Modelling, Colour . . . thanks for teaching about all this! I'm grateful to have found your channel. Simplify, Alex! :D

  • @kylacoulter2104
    @kylacoulter2104 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is the exact problem my professor was trying to explain to me in my work. I was over modeling! You have freaking saved my grade! I'm going to fix my work tonight! Thank you so much!

  • @joaco264
    @joaco264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I didn't know about that median tool. I usually use the function 'posterize' to achieve a similar result. The median function seems to give a softer transition between the values though

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The posterise simplifies the values just as well, but I prefer the medium because it looks just like squinting.

  • @ChristopherHemsworthCreative
    @ChristopherHemsworthCreative 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm primarily a digital artist, and I constantly refer to your lessons to help my approach to painting digitally.

  • @AGamerDraws
    @AGamerDraws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This was incredible, thank you so much! All things I knew in theory, but it’s hard to apply them in practice so it’s so useful to see the entire process broken down.

  • @ghostinthecloset
    @ghostinthecloset 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for this demonstration!! Ive been trying to teach myself to paint with values but Ive hit a road-block cause I would always over-model and then get really discouraged by just how bad it would end up looking. I cant wait to give it another shot with this new info!

  • @sduncanfoto
    @sduncanfoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it. 3 general tones, a darkest dark and a lightest light.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this is key. Then they will give you a scale for when you add more subtle shifts in value.

  • @jadehegarty6225
    @jadehegarty6225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the most useful tutorials on portrait painting I've ever come across! None of my teachers in school or uni ever elaborated on this! We were just expected to know!

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because teachers at main stream art schools no longer know any of this stuff.

  • @joseroncero8379
    @joseroncero8379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I must say, you actually got his likeness at this stage - something other youtubers rarely accomplish.

  • @cobby407
    @cobby407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video, that overmodeled version of the portrait is my nightmare!

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I struggled with over modelling for years. Establishing the larger values masses early on, during the block-in, is the way managed to prevent myself from doing it. Then all you have to do is to try and avoid completely destroying them as you add subtle half tones and reflected lights etc.

  • @RatusMax
    @RatusMax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is exactly what I learned through trial and error when I started digital painting in 2020. I got pretty good fast! This information is on POINT! I did watch an older video from this channel back in 2020 when I was learning. I wanted to learn traditionally instead of from digital painters because concepts in traditional painting IS the foundation.
    Of course now that I have some understanding of painting, I am going back and cleaning up areas I ignored. Color, scene building, having good lighting on the subject, etc.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! This is idea of simplifying your subject into a few main light and dark tonal values at the start of a painting is so important.

    • @ZoltarF
      @ZoltarF 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you show us your work?

    • @RatusMax
      @RatusMax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZoltarF Post something on your channel and I'll reply there. They aren't letting me post anything here.

    • @ZoltarF
      @ZoltarF 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RatusMax I can search for the profile name on the due website

    • @RatusMax
      @RatusMax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZoltarF Oh so you were still able to see the comment? I placed the profile and the website with no link and it was still removed.

  • @zak5941
    @zak5941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always a pleasure to see you have uploaded Alex, really some of the most informative and quality painting advice available on the internet

  • @laurenlentini917
    @laurenlentini917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic! Thank you.

  • @alessandropinto5204
    @alessandropinto5204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At around 8 minutes in, you add the nose and lower lip specular highlights. According to the order you're using, shouldn't that type of detail be added later on? Or are you using them as reference marks to place other small features?

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, I use the highlights as landmarks. A lot of Artists consider the highlights as details that should be left to the end. But I find them quite useful for drawing, particularly if you're in a situation without many strong shadow shapes. I can always refine the highlights and tone them down if need me in the later stages of a painting.

  • @jnarts7955
    @jnarts7955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Casey Baugh taught how to look using peripheral vision
    where you see everything as a whole
    when you judge values you dont want to go tunnel vision. which kinda same with what you said. i love it.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think when he's talking about using peripheral vision, hit has more to do with judging colour correctly? When you stare at colours for a long time, they often appear to change in front of our eyes and can be hard to judge. Whereas you often get a better sense of colour out of your peripheral vision. Other artists talk about talking quick glances and mixing the colours you remember seeing and trying not to stare for too long. To simplify the values, you must squint at your subject.

  • @redchilli450
    @redchilli450 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so good, your points are a great value, but it's so amazing to see that the values are simplified and yet the likeness is remarkable!

  • @jonroads8281
    @jonroads8281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy new year Alex! Another brilliant video, thank you! I'm definitely planning to take some of your courses this year, I'm really keen to push my painting forward this year.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy New Year to you too! The excellent news, here's to a productive year of painting.

  • @johnhunter1653
    @johnhunter1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentation! Really useful. Stops one racing ahead into tonal mistakes. Thank you for your effort!

  • @anxietyartist7690
    @anxietyartist7690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this really informative video ! This is super helpful, I don’t paint often but I have been doing it in school for a while and they do touch on “squinting at the subject” but they don’t often go into detail like you did. This will really help me with doing portraits in the future !

  • @keymaster430
    @keymaster430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The name of your channel is perfect. You completely simplified something I've struggled with forever in drawing portraits. Great teaching.

  • @katygardner2741
    @katygardner2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New year! What a fantastic and clearly explained video on values and simplifying! It's the first time I've watched one of your videos and I'll be popping over to your patreon shortly for the full course! Thank you!

  • @cptnbeefart
    @cptnbeefart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this makes me miss painting so much

  • @JoshuaLlamaLlama
    @JoshuaLlamaLlama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this contained a piece I've been missing in trying to jump from line drawing and sketching to painting forms.

  • @leslieramsay6479
    @leslieramsay6479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the better portrait tutorials I’ve seen. Clear and informative. I’ll use this advice.

  • @ivelinadocheva9203
    @ivelinadocheva9203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a great teacher, always explaining everything in so simple way...Thank you !

  • @tennoio1392
    @tennoio1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this analytical approach. Art world needs more teachers like that.

  • @clarapaillard8246
    @clarapaillard8246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    brilliant video, shared it with a life class that I attend.

  • @aspenram3885
    @aspenram3885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much, this is exactly what I've been trying to work on! 💖

  • @tatianasmirnova2277
    @tatianasmirnova2277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful! As always ! Thank you

  • @abz7509
    @abz7509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent demo as always . Nice to see you back please continue with weekly or fortnightly videos .

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much! I would love to be able to release videos more regularly, but at is it I try to post one video a month. Since starting my patreon channel, I also have to post a video on there every month. My videos on there are all filmed in real time so are usually one hour long, so they take much longer to write. Then there is also trying to find time to do my own painting.

  • @ruthjohnston-wood5541
    @ruthjohnston-wood5541 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining this vital information so incredibly well unlike other artists .

  • @annstuart8886
    @annstuart8886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New Year Alex! A wonderful demo. So clear! Thank you.

  • @viniciusfeliciano5921
    @viniciusfeliciano5921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re a great artist and teacher. Thank you so much for all these teachings!!

  • @themedjay4559
    @themedjay4559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muchas gracias por su aportación, aprendí mucho 😊

  • @rumblef1sh
    @rumblef1sh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks! Good clear explanations, good demonstration.

  • @richcorzatt7886
    @richcorzatt7886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Thank you!

  • @mariaelisagrion1183
    @mariaelisagrion1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your examples are very clear , you are a great teacher and a great artist

  • @cinereus3601
    @cinereus3601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Alex, really enjoying the Patreon content. Worth every cent.

  • @user-wt5if6rx8m
    @user-wt5if6rx8m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super video. Simplifying in general is truly one of the biggest challenges when it comes to beginners. Shapes, values, colors. Everything. Thank you

  • @starrise_
    @starrise_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly what I was struggling with, thank you!

  • @adacollins4070
    @adacollins4070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You always hit the nail on the head
    I love your videos. All of them

  • @kafiri
    @kafiri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson and super helpful! Thanks

  • @gulagwarlord
    @gulagwarlord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, that median tool trick was awesome. Really helps to see the posterized big form relationships. Cool.

  • @hanhvuong8898
    @hanhvuong8898 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome.Thanks a lot😊

  • @eugeneconstable4861
    @eugeneconstable4861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is extremely helpful, and inspiring! Thank you Alex.

  • @KelarGridal
    @KelarGridal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is fantastic! Thanks a lot for this. There was something wrong with a gift I made for a family member and it was 100% this.
    I mainly do environmental work, so going to portrait painting was a big step, and it's something I want to get better at.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much. Glad it was helpful. God luck with the portrait painting. Keep practicing and you'll get it.

  • @I_like_science
    @I_like_science 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather used to tell me that mastery of a skill is not about doing more in less time, it is about doing the same amount of work in less steps !

  • @paullevin9802
    @paullevin9802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific demo! You are always very pedagogical.

  • @zOMGItsDarkJ
    @zOMGItsDarkJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro this demo really just made me think differently about painting. Going about values shapes and forms first
    Then slowly blend and correct details as you go.

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Establishing the larger value shapes before refining and adding details is absolutely key for Alla Prima or wet on wet oil painting. Paint is a liquid so the best way of controlling it is to see and move shapes around, rather than drawing outlines. I hope that brief explanation makes sense?

    • @zOMGItsDarkJ
      @zOMGItsDarkJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting definitely does! Thank you so much!

  • @gumpster8913
    @gumpster8913 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing. When he started blocking in the painting the likeness was instantly recognizable. It was almost startling how suddenly the image took shape at that point.

  • @toiphamdp
    @toiphamdp ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for teaching this!

  • @supahotfirefunciek9954
    @supahotfirefunciek9954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    really glad I found this material. I knew that there is some basis I didn't get, not the form but the value frst. I used to draw complicated sketch involving huge amount of planes of the head, but never really I have been able to paint it then.
    Turns out I was focusing on the local relationships of value, but not looking at the overall relationships!
    Thanks a lot!

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes Indeed. You need to think about the big planes first as this will enable to establish a few main values. The value of the smaller planes will always be more subtle and fit in-between the main values if that makes sense.

  • @olgajakobi8353
    @olgajakobi8353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfeckt. die geschwindigkeit ist aber so schnell. 💖danke

  • @tjisnotthatstupid
    @tjisnotthatstupid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Your explanation was extremely helpful!

  • @Addyr3
    @Addyr3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so incredibly helpful!

  • @reginaberkovich3070
    @reginaberkovich3070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video and perfect teaching method, thank you, Maestro.

  • @mariecroise3191
    @mariecroise3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, thank you!

  • @lalitamescalita5163
    @lalitamescalita5163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blooming brilliant! Great advice. Thank you!

  • @yickwong3776
    @yickwong3776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!

  • @marlene6489
    @marlene6489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo! You are one amazing teacher!

  • @datasw1tch
    @datasw1tch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demo, a lot of useful insights, thank you very much!

  • @kyletwebster
    @kyletwebster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Alex! (As usual!)

  • @keytones9280
    @keytones9280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is the best demonstration I have seen on this subject. Thank you

  • @timyardley7042
    @timyardley7042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great as always-cheers Alex!

  • @damookie
    @damookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    simply fantastic, inspiring portrait work.

  • @manashmishra8995
    @manashmishra8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this tuterial ..thanks a lot.

  • @bensmith6673
    @bensmith6673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this

  • @scepticalchymist
    @scepticalchymist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great exposition. Very much to the point. And I find it amazing how small the painting is compared to your brushes :). How reduced your use of color here and there. All these tiny details that make the painting live.

  • @jeromesasanecki3507
    @jeromesasanecki3507 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely helpful! Thx

  • @bugzeee256
    @bugzeee256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel is a life saver❤

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a couple of very early charcoal videos that I did a while ago. I plan to do some more:
      th-cam.com/video/wCzzV8V1t-8/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/l-tI9wNeloc/w-d-xo.html

  • @Aerderranissar
    @Aerderranissar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pure gold!

  • @badgerman8888
    @badgerman8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really fantastic - your videos are so informative

  • @merchantarthurn
    @merchantarthurn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is brilliant! i work in a much more cartoony style, but this technique seems very universal when referencing and stylising from real life, thank you for uploading!

  • @henkhulsegge
    @henkhulsegge ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic educational demonstration thank you!

  • @ianstrasse
    @ianstrasse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful, thank you!

  • @iliostalaktithoua9028
    @iliostalaktithoua9028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow thanks!

  • @cathysheffield4346
    @cathysheffield4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, very useful information.

  • @Joe-dy7bb
    @Joe-dy7bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Alex. Very informative

  • @armarat7419
    @armarat7419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great! Thank you!

    • @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting
      @SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Glad you liked it.

    • @armarat7419
      @armarat7419 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting, just watched it again: you are a brilliant teacher!

  • @hannarchy7945
    @hannarchy7945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You remind me of my dad, but a calmer, more comforting version of him. This video was very comforting as a whole. Very lovely painting, thank you for the tips!

  • @agmc111
    @agmc111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video Alex, Thank you .

  • @cristianvigliarolo7597
    @cristianvigliarolo7597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great lesson!

  • @waleedali3829
    @waleedali3829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much💕💕💕

  • @AizaBoEn
    @AizaBoEn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was soooo clear and simple to understand ... You have no idea how much this is helping.. THANK YOU!

  • @festia13
    @festia13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so very much for sharing.

  • @jefflane5392
    @jefflane5392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT THANK YOU

  • @eleftheriageorgiadouart7156
    @eleftheriageorgiadouart7156 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much,you are a great artist!!!!!

  • @shoshoe3632
    @shoshoe3632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing, thank you for opening my eyes to such practicality

  • @duantorruellas716
    @duantorruellas716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome 👍 thank you .

  • @brokenwideopen
    @brokenwideopen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly helpful

  • @willielarsson9651
    @willielarsson9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing just watching this come to life. Thank you

  • @magieval
    @magieval 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative; thank you!

  • @christosgh5140
    @christosgh5140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and tutorial! Thank you!

  • @kik4jc
    @kik4jc ปีที่แล้ว

    lovely work and really clear walk through explaination! helped me so much to see the whole rather than hyperfocus on precise line work 😩, thank you 🙏

  • @cosette8321
    @cosette8321 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a really good teacher, very educated in what you’re teaching