Proac Response 1SC Speaker Review (biased?)
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- My attempt to review my Proac Response 1SC speakers which I have owned and loved for 22 years. I pride myself in providing unbiased, balanced reviews but in this case how objective can I be? Please watch and judge for yourself.
I wanted to commend you on this lovely presentation for the classic ProAc Response 1SC monitor speaker. Having owned this same pair since new; I've been mesmerized by the naturalness of these speakers since the first time I've heard them in 1997. My first experience hearing these was on a vinyl set up with a single ended triode integrated amplifier rated at a mere 13 watts per channel. Granted, these speakers have a mid to low level sensitivity at around 86 db but an 8 ohm impedance. Surprisingly, these speakers do rather well with low watt amp designs but the electronics have to be upper tier. This further reinforces your assessment on low level listening and clarity of tone, especially in the mid range. What really excited me about this review are the design details and specifications on the build. Primarily the cabinets. This speaker was designed like a Stradivari Vesuvius of Cremona, Italy! Your description of wall "thinness" was very informative and reveals the level of detail that Stewart Tyler paid to designing this gem of a speaker. I also appreciated your informed description of tweeter placement on x, y axis in relation to cabinet edge distance. I was always under the impression that the tweeter alignment had more to do with relation to sitting position. Traditionally, the speaker placement favors tweeters closer to the listening position (right speaker with tweeter on the left side of cabinet and left speaker with tweeter on the right side of cabinet.) A detail I was told many years ago about the 1SC was that the MDF was cut at varying angles in relation to the interior of the box to further refine the sound by eliminating parallel surfaces. About the drivers used on the 1SC's? Whilst in New York City I had asked the owner at Stereo Exchange about the manufacturing of the ProAc 1SC's and he told me that Stewart Tyler had mentioned to him that he uses Scan Speak drivers and has them modified under his specifications. Also I remember reading an article or two that confirmed this rumor about the Scan Speak drivers. Regardless, they are perhaps one of the most beautiful looking monitors I had ever seen with the transparent mid bass drivers and copper phase plugs which looks like a transparent window peering into the driver, exposing the voice coil's copper winding and metal basket. The 1SC's are a keeper! I, most likely, will be putting them in my will. And until then, I will continue to experiment with different electronics and discover what works best with these magical transducers...
Hi Gerry, I really enjoyed reading about your experiences with the 1SC. I agree with you that they have a very natural and engaging delivery. I glad to know that you have had as much enjoyment out of your as I have had out of mine. Thank you for sharing 😊
Pretty objective IMHO - the advantage of owning them for 22 years is you know their strengths and weaknesses inside out, and I think you got them across well.
Thanks for explaining the offset tweeters! I often wondered.
Thank you thisisnev. As always you are the voice of common sense and rationality. Your continued support of me and what I am trying to do with this channel does not go unappreciated.
Thanks for a great review which was very informative and comprehensive. I have had a pair of these speakers for nearly 20 years now and love them.
Thank you Vox. They are a very special pair of speakers.
Thanks for the review. I find your reviews insightful and pleasant to watch and listen to. Please keep it up.
Thank you Rees 😊👍
After listening to your channel, I pulled the trigger on a pair of ProAc Response D2s with the dome tweeter. I liked the fact they were a little more forgiving with seating position. I am extremely happy with these speakers. I drive them with a McIntosh 5300...play my vinyl with a Rega Planar 6. Thanks so much! Perfect speaker for my room, and music I prefer!
That is great Paul. My initial impression is that I preferred the soft dome to the ribbon tweeter as well. Would love to get them home to find out for sure. The ProAc D2 and the ATC SCM19 would be my go to recommendations at their price point. I hope your D2s provide you with as much satisfaction as my 1SCs have over the years 😊👍
Thanks for the review of your own speakers, the ProAc Response 1SC. I have had a number of small bookshelf speakers myself (Dali, Penaudio, JPW, Mission, Spendor etc.), all of them with their own character. I guess the thing is to find good speakers and enjoy them with flaws and all. Just bought a pair of used Tablette 2 and beginning to understand why so many like the ProAc's. The challenge is to see how much good sound you can squeeze out of a small box and here is where I think the little ProAcs succeed. Hard to find them used to a (for me) realistic price though. Keep ut the good work (sound)!
Thank you jazzpreacher. You obviously have a deep wealth of experience and knowledge which I appreciate you sharing. Thank you for watching and your support 😊👍
A wonderful review. I’d love you to describe your selection of the rel, and how much difference it makes with the proacs.
Thank you Jim. Much appreciated 😊👍
One of the best auditions I've had during my journey was a pair of ProAc floorstanders (can't remember the model now but it was a a 2 way design) with Prima Luna integrated amp. The bass output and it's tonality/texture was super engaging! The rest of the frequency range was uber sweet and revealing without any fatigue, which is something that I feel a lot of speakers have a hard time getting. Thanks for talking more about ProAc. I've barely seen them at shows in the last 10 years, which is a bit of a shame!
Hi James, I always get a little more excited than normal whenever I have an opportunity to listen to a new pair of Proacs. There are very few brands that make me feel that way, ATC and Dynaudio being amongst the others. I think you are spot on with your observations with the Proacs and I bet they sound great with the Prima Luna. Thank you for watching and sharing.
ProAc makes beautiful speakers. What you mention reminds me of the Response 2.5 I once heard. Also with a Primaluna amp.
@@henrym78 I'm pretty sure it was one of the Studio line speakers. The Response series is awesome as well. Any of their speaker lines for that matter. I find their house sound stands out amongst the sea of speaker brands
I really like your videos, you do a great job. I had a pair of Proac Response 2.5 and bought them in 1998. Proac's are midrange kings, they just have that midrange magic. Full bodied with very little bloating. They are very well built speakers and are made to last. My 2.5 were getting a little long in the tooth ( I was worried about the surrounds needing to be replaced) so I traded them in on a new pair of Audio Physics Tempo Plus. Proac's are hard to get in the states these days but I would've loved to try out the D20s. If I can get 20+ years out of the AP like I did with the Proac's, I'll be a very happy guy.
Thank you James. Much appreciated. I would love to get some modern ProAc in for review. They respectfully declined when I was starting out last year. Maybe worth another try 😊👍
Fantastic review of a speaker I absolutely loved from the moment I heard it. Does anyone here think Proac has a better monitor speaker in their stable now?
Thank you Tim. If they agree to send me something I will let you know 😉👍
After listening to quite a few of your videos I must say I am impressed. It seems like you are very well prepared and that you know exactly how to present the message that you like to put forward. I really like your Hifi didactic - so to speak - and watch your videos with great joy. I own a pair of Proac response 2s that I think I appreciate as much as you do with your 1sc'. Very fair review in my humble opinion. Proac owes maybe a little of its fame to Scanspeak and as a Dane that is not bad either.
Very fair review of the 1SC! I just recently sold mine but it was great listening for the 3 years I had it. I found it quite fussy with amplification, but there is a bit of magic with the midrange clarity. I have the S400 as you do now and cannot wait for your review and comparison. I feel the S400 is a step up in all respects but for the imaging. Keep up the good work. Subscribed. :-)
Hi Ryan, great to hear about your experiences with the 1SC and the S400, very interesting. The S400s are running in at the moment, review in due course. Thank you for supporting this channel, I really appreciate it.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Just a word of warning. The S400 took forever to burn in. Definitely the 300 hours people suggest. Also, due to the wave guide, please play with the toe in. In my setup, depending on toe in, it can vary from too bright to downright dull. It should be neither. From dispersed sound to fairly focussed. I've never had a bookshelf so fussy with toe in and placement - but in the end prefer it more than any bookshelf I've had or auditioned so far. Enjoy, and would love to hear your take on it! From Ryan, An Australian Audiophile :-).
Very good review. Great job at relaying strengths and shortcomings. Keep them coming!
Thank you Alex
Great review. I've owned mine for ... 25 years perhaps, and they still deliver the same magic. The only speakers I've heard with matching or perhaps better even image are Focal Twin BE professional studio monitors. Outside of that, the ProAcs are kings indeed :-)
Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences Chris 😊👍
Hi Tarun: Really appreciate your reviews and consistent comparisons of your 1SCs. Do you plan to review ProAcs lineup of speakers? I’m ordering my first set of D2Rs in a couple of weeks and am truly excited to hear the experience.
Thank you Thomas. 😊👍
I would love to but they don’t send products out to TH-cam reviewers 😢
REally enjoy your reviews - you are number one! Thank you.
Hi Chris, thank you. I really appreciate your support 👍
Hi Tarun, Iv'e been eagerly waiting for your next video and glad you spoke about your 1SC's. Iv'e also heard that Proac have been using Scan speak drivers. I used to own the Response 3.8's and apparently their drivers were designed and made by Scan speak. They were lovely sounding speakers at high levels and you could still here the detail and bass at low levels very well. Wish I never sold them to be honest!
Hi steve, I have heard the 3.8s years ago and was very impressed. I know why you love them, maybe time to start scouring used ads. Thank you for your continued support of this channel, it is very much appreciated.
I’ve had mine 22 years as well. Still love them
Hi Scott, we both bought them at the same time 👍
Well done Tarun, a very fair and balanced review. I can vouch for this because i too had a pair of Response 1 for a very long time. Every comment is fair.
I too helped the lower register with a KEF subwoofer as i missed something in the bass register after selling the KEF 107 reference monitors.
My previous system front was Linn, Musical Fidelity Pre Amp, Quad 606 power amp.
I sold everything but the Proacs when i emmigrated and for simple convenience drove them from a Uniti Atom streaming player.
In short, those Proacs have given me immense pleasure for 30 years.
Thank you Lee. Great to learn about your experiences 😊👍
Just discovered you this morning. Subscribed immediately. I like your low key approach. You're in the same league as Ron from New Record Day, Sean from Zero Fidelity and Thomas from Thomas Stereo.
I loved your video on the The Top Five Inexpensive "Housekeeping" Audio Tips. Very interesting, so a big thank you for posting that one. I'm almost 70 so it is never too late to learn.
I am in the hunt for new speakers. I love Harbeth but they do command a hefty price (here in Canada) for the 30.1.
In any case, the Buchardt 400's I see behind you, have really peaked my interest. I hear they are decent in the mid-range? (remember I love Harbeths). I eagerly await your review.
Keep up the good work young man!!!!!!!!!!!!!... I Like... Therefore I Am
Charles
British Columbia
Hi Charles, thank you for watching and your support. It is greatly appreciated and I really enjoyed reading your comments. There is a review of the Buchardt S400 pending so I don’t want to give too much away but they do have an excellent midrange and a rolled off high frequency response which in some ways is reminiscent of the Harbeth sound. I hope you won’t mind me saying, but if I have your open-minded attitude to life as well as the generosity of spirit that you clearly display at 70, I will be very proud. Thank you once again 👍
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Great review, being the owner of a pair your review is very accurate.
They are a great speaker that punch above there weight. I've owned mine since 1989 and still going strong.
Thanks Michael, you got yours around the same time as me. I hope they have given you as much pleasure as I have had from mine.
Thank you for great review, it was very informative ! Have you had a chance to listen to new version of 1SC (Response DB1) ? I am actively looking for new bookshelf speaker, problem is I can not audition the speakers before I buy them and professional reviews like yours are very helpful in this regard... main contenders are Proac DB1, Dinaudio Special 40 and Buchardt s400 ... I do not know why but I am leaning towards Proac's :)
Great review Tarun. Love ProAc’s. Do have the Studio 130’s for the last 13 years in my living room with the Linn Classik, match made in heaven, of course different gear in my music room
Thank you Edgar. Those Studio 130 are a good pair of speakers 😉
Thanks for the review! I've always been fond of these from back in the day. I own Dynaudio Audience 42's and have owned them for about 10 years now. Their heyday was the early 2000s. The Buchardt's have intrigued me. You're teasing us with those back there and not saying anything about them! Are you working on a review?
Hi Sean, Dynaudio have produced something of my favourite speakers over the years. ATC and Proac being some of my other favourites. The S400s are currently running in. It has been reviewed by many on TH-cam and I am hoping to take a little different approach to my review. Watch this space...
The weaknesses you described are resolved moving up to the Response 2S. I was lucky to find a mint pair during the Pandemic. Enjoying your reviews.
Thank you Al 👍
Those 1SC are such lovely looking speakers. Timeless aesthetics (and sound, given what you say). After going through a lot of speakers, both demoed or owned, I've recently settled on some Proac D2R, which are just wonderful. Run in a 12ft x 14ft room, by an Arcam SA30. I realise they'll scale with better amps (by all accounts, Sugden or tubes are well suited).
The Proacs have a slightly more revealing / detailed presentation of highs than I'm used to (Spendor Classic 3/1, which had too much bass for my room). And it took a day or two of demoing for me to 'get them', after coming from such warm, forgiving and silky smooth speakers. But it's such a liquid, insightful treble, blended seamlessly by the smooth, fluid midrange. Good recordings sound wonderful, great recordings can be staggering. And underpinning that, is a decently tight (but not uptight) bass, that's both warm, fun, and flowing.
They're a really addictive, involving speaker to listen to. Real all rounders, with a superbly judged presentation in my opinion.
Would be great to see a review if the D2 or D2R on your channel at some point, subject to you being able to secure a pair.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Very interesting 😊👍
Tarun, thanks for you review of your Proac's, but mostly for explaining the steps taken to deal with edge diffraction, by offsetting the tweeter in both horizontal and vertical planes. I'll be borrowing this technique when I install a set of ADS 320i speakers into 1/2" thick Bamboo enclosures (I'll take into account the crossover frequency to compute wavelengths to the cabinet edges). Will make mirrored pairs as well. Considering the 22+ years you've had them speaks volumes. I feel you've presented an unbiased assessment, using multiple amplifiers to convey that quality counts.
Thank you Bradley. I tried my best to remain impartial. I appreciate your support 😊👍
Enjoyed this video greatly ! It just reaffirmed my desire to get a pair and add to my other British b&w matrix 802 series 3. Hope you do a review of the fantastic rel strata sub! Lost count of how many times I have owned owned that or a storm or a stadium!
Thank you for the suggestion. I would like to get a current REL in and do an A/B comparison video. Interesting as the company has changed hands since and the new design have gone from sealed boxes to passive radiators for much of the range.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 I think it would be a interesting comparison with the newer models. I have been close to getting a t5i or a t7i multiple times. I have heard some good things about John hunter at rel over the years. It would also be interesting to try a pair of smaller models vs one in a stereo setup to contrast the performance difference. Some say 2 are better than one. In a small room perhaps even their newer t zero models would work. I believe rel as a company has been through some changes and maybe bought by someone else along the way since if I'm not mistaken? So should be interesting to contrast newer stuff with their older classics. Thanks!
I agree Brandon. Two small subs is definitely the way to go if you can accommodate them. They help to even out the room modes by having more than one bass sources. Think of them as active bass management.
Excellent review and I owned the Proac 1sc's for 14 year's and agree with your notes that their strength is the mid-range and pinpoint accuracy (classic status). After eventually selling them in search of a fuller and perhaps more dynamic and extended sound, I dabbled with other brands but never truly satisfied. I have returned to Proac and now own the Proac SM100. They retain the excellent midrange (close to 1SC), with a better bass response and slightly sweeter top. Its another option and its a speaker Stewart Tyler worked very hard on to replace the Studio 100.
Hi Yives, great to hear you experiences with Proac 1SCs and the SM100s. I have heard good things about the Studio 100s over the years but never listened to them in a proper setting. Paper cone woofers if I remember correctly, always a good sign.
Tarun, was wondering if you’d ever review the vintage Proacs. I’m glad you did because I’ve had my 1SC for 22 years also. Your review was honest and educational. The audible limitations are obvious for such a small box so there’s no need to deny their existence. But as you said, given the right source and expectation, these miniature monitors can become small wonders to listen to.
What I really like about them is they can grow with whatever my budget allows for upstream components. They just sound better and better as I compliment them with better amp, digital and analog components, interconnects and cables.
The classic design of the simple box with diminutive proportions makes them easy to fit into ever changing room decor also, from traditional to transitional.
Sometimes the warm British house sound can sound out of date, or too rounded and laid back for contemporary music. But I find the Proac’s fast and slightly forward top end lets it sound fresh and “digital” if you allow it, depending on your upstream gear couplings.
My PrimaLuna tube integrated gives me a choice of triode or ultralinear mode, the latter will let Proac sing it’s full song, wide open. If the recording is too bright, I’ll use triode mode to tame it down, which is especially useful for late night listening.
The last piece of gear that I found made a world of differences for the 1SC is speaker cables. Through the years, I’ve fed it fat monster cables, skinny twisted pairs and flat ribbon cables like Nordost. The Proac top end was always a bit to bright and harsh with some less than ideal recordings, and of course the bottom always rolled off a little too early. But when I upgraded the Nordost to their Frey 2 speaker cables, the brightness was polished off, and the bottom became much more authoritative even when the REL SHO/3 is off. The Frey 2 cost as much as the speakers when new so it just goes to show how the 1SC can continue to shine with the right up market gear.
I’m listening to Sonny Rollins’ Way Out West as I’m writing this :)
Cheers from California!
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Hi cj996twins, fascinating to hear your experiences with this speaker and I have to say IMHO your insights are spot on! Your comments remind me of the phrase, “everything matters but not to the same extent.”
I would love to pick your brain about cables. Have you ever played around with pro interconnects from companies such as Belden, Van Damme, etc.. I recently played with a £50 single ended Van Damme interconnect with Switchcraft connectors and was genuinely surprised as to how close the performance was to my £800 Chord Signature interconnects. I may do a Myths and Misconceptions video on cables if I am feeling brave.
Tarun A British Audiophile No I haven’t played with those. I standardized all my preamp to amp interconnects with Acoustic Zen, Audience AU24 for phono cable, Cardas Clear USB, and Creative Coax cable for CD transport to DAC.
I’ve always wondered if it’s better to standardize on one brand of cables for one “house sound” across all components or not. It’s an expensive and time consuming hobby to find the right mix of cables to use. Too many variables and the rewards aren’t always there or noticeable.
The most notable difference was when I upgraded to the Acoustic Zen and the Nordost Frey 2, because even my wife with tin ears heard it through blind test repeatedly. That was a way to convince her it’s money well spent. Haha.
You were admirably careful in your effort not to unduly raise people’s expectations and everything you said is true. Yet I think you have somewhat underrated these speakers though I find it difficult to say why, exactly. I had a pair of these and using Audio Research tube amplification in a fairly spacious medium sized room, they slayed everything else I tried to do for much more money, up to and including ProAc Response 5’s. With the right amplification they become invisible and throw an enormous soundstage with a natural midrange. Within their capability they rock harder than bigger, slower speakers. I look forward to your future reviews.
Hi Andrew, you are absolutely right. These are incredible speakers. I didn’t want to over do it in my praise as it would just come across as self serving and biased. If you can live without the bass extension or are prepared to use them with a subwoofer and don’t want to play at concert levels, in 20 years I have yet to hear anything that comes close at near their price point! 👌
I think you are in a unique position, if you are interested, to see if there are any mini monitors that can knock the Response 1’s off their pedestal. It’s been some time now since they were in production. The thing is, we could probably find speakers that might excel in one or two ways vs the Response 1’s, but I will bet very few will rock as hard. It’s not that they go low, it’s that they go fast. That’s why they’re better than the Response 2’s of their day. Not many people know about this, even some ProAc dealers think the Tablettes are the stars. I think not. I hope this is a challenge that interests you - mini monitors that rock as hard but cede nothing else to the mighty Response 1’s.
Nice and informative review. What speaker cables do you recommend with these? I've used my response db1 with a few cables and so far it seems to like the van den hul cs122 best, single wired with the same jumpers as the cable in a diamond config.
Hi Caron, I don’t think you need to spend a lot of money of expensive speaker cables. The Van Den Hull will be fine. If you are looking at twisted pair configuration then just check that your amps don’t require a higher inductance figure 8 cable. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉👍
What do I think? Very objective and very clearly presented! Great that you have not seen the need to change for so many years, particularly as hifi as a "hobby" is so fashion orientated these days, what with this years version of a product always "light years ahead" of last years etc. I've had the D18 for a number of years, which, if I remember correctly are similar to the DB1s with an extra bottom bit of cabinet to make them floorstanders (different woofer too). Enjoying your content!
Thank you John. Much appreciated 😊👍
Hi Tarun, thank you for all the reviews and tips. This is the main source of audio knowledge for me lately. I've seen some of the videos multiple times, and every time I watch some of them I always find some things I have missed before and what to learn next.
"Accidentally" I have found ProAc Response 1.5 (used) for sale. Maybe you have any idea how 1.5 compares to 1SC?
Thank you webkuma. I really appreciate you watching and your kind works of support. I don’t think I have ever got a chance to compare the 1SC to the 1.5 but the entire Response range was highly regarded at the time. If you can get them in good condition at a reasonable price, they may be worth going for 👍😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 I've pulled the trigger. It has some minor scratches and the color behind the dust covers is a little richer but got it for £770. I guess It's not that bad price :) Really enjoying them as my previous Focal Chorus 714S had nothing that could match ProAc. I mean soundstage width and depth, instrument separation, natural-sounding midrange, not shouting highs, and I was not expecting such deep lows.
@@webkuma that is great! Thank you for the update 👍😊👍
Hi, I enjoy your videos, thank you. I have a room layout similar yours, I also have a large sideboard on the left side close to the speaker. I sometimes have issues with the stereo image. Often it sound louder on the left or sometimes on the right. Am I being too fussy? does spotify for example always deliver a centred image?
It is not ideal . It limits soundstage width on the left side but I don’t have problems with the centre image. Careful placement is a must 😊👍
I would be interested in hearing about why speakers aren’t built like studio monitors with “faithful” reproduction of music. Preference for a different sound could be adjusted by the listener with tone controls or DSP to suit their tastes, or compensate for their room acoustics. Begs the question why basic amps don’t provide more control in this regard.
Hi Tarun. My ProAc's have Peerless tweeters and SEAS woofers FYI. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Alex, I think my 1SCs use either the SEAS or Peerless woofer and I suspect it is a Peerless tweeter like yours.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 No worries. Glad to help.
I very nearly bought the original 1S back in the early 90's, but ended up with Monitor Audio Studio 12's. Very different speakers, but they suited my tastes and budget after auditioning many speakers. I was lucky to try both in my own home before buying which was nice.
Cool 😎 thand you for sharing 😊👍
ABA, you are one of the most level headed audiophiles on you tube. Cheers for content.
Thank you Strtjammer, I really appreciate you watching and your kind words of support 😊
Thanks for this review Tarun, I just listened to it again. May I ask if you think that the ProAc Tablettes broadly exhibit the same tonal characteristics i.e on the warm side of neutral, as those you describe for the 1SC's? Thanks.
Hi Marc, the Tablettes are a modern variation from the LS3/5A. Definitely on the warm side on neutral 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Many thanks Tarun, really appreciate the reply.
Tarun - just come across this video and it was very informative, albeit some 3 years old now. I'm considering the up to date equivalent of your setup as my listening room is very similar to yours, namely the Exposure 5010 pre and monoblock power amps. So in regard to the speakers - you do mention a newer Proac model in the video, but I'm conscious things have moved on again, even in 3 years. What Proac would you now go for now (if it is still a Proac of course!) ... Keep up the great work ...
Thank you. The ProAc DB1s and D2S would still be worth considering 👍
Very nice review of your speaker. I am also very close to buy ProAc Tablette Anniversary, like you said they have very superb midrange, that is very importan to me also, and their treble is not so bright and sharp, but somehow not so shy and laid back, very enjoyable for long listening.
I agree Milan 😉
Yesterday I drove 500km to another country and back to pick up Proac Response 1.5 in great condition for a really good price. After all your comparisons I really wanted to know that's the big deal with Proacs. Well.. they're amazing. Running them with Willsenton R8 and Mojo 2. Thank you for all the well explained reviews!
That is great. I’m glad they worked out 😊👍
This weekend i went to my delaer and tried out the Respose D2 with some bad ass belles audio 75 watts a channel integrated amp connected to this Ayer Codex dac aand a bluesound node. Holy god it was delicious and rich and detailed.I will get them next year for my smaller bedroom system i am building.
Hi pennfootball, I have heard them at dealers myself and at shows. They are pretty impressive. I would love to get a pair here to review.
Hi Tarun, what integrated amplifier would you recommend for a Proac response Db1? I know that you have an extensive experience on your SC1 and i am in the market for a good synergetic integrated amp to pair with my newer DB1. I would like to have a lush midrange quality, wide soundstage, great imaging and tonally correct sound signature. I listened mostly at low to mid level and don’t need gobs of power. Nothing fancy but really a good match for the proacs. Thank you in advance.
Hi Dan, based on what you want, top of my list to check out would be the recently launched Exposure 2510. Check out my review th-cam.com/video/B7vABYJcKdU/w-d-xo.html
Good luck 😊👍
Proac does a nice job! i almost baught a pair but got a pair of Monitor Gold 200's instead. My amp is a Naim Uniti Start integrated streeamer. Your vids are coming along.
Thanks pennfootball , the MA Gold 200s are a very good pair of speakers, I am sure they will sound great with the Naim Uniti. Thank you for watching and sharing.
Hello and congratulations for the review. Can you tell me how much you cut the Rel sub to match the ProAc One sc perfectly? Thank you
The REL set up will vary based on room and positioning 😊
This pandemic has given me the opportunity to listen, really listen to music on my system and I am enjoying this time to appreciate what I have and how good it sounds
Thank you for watching and sharing Donald 😊
Tarun, because of you, I snagged a brand new pair of 1SC's today. Yes, brand new - New Old Stock and a rarity. I can tell that you love your speakers. And when you said that music for you, was all about the midrange, I was pleasantly surprised because that is what I used to say about the Spendors [read on]. The box was unsealed in my presence and the packing inside was pristine - like it had been kept in some sort of a time capsule from the time it was made. Question - what speaker stands would you recommend with these speakers? Before my current pair of speakers, I had the Spendor s3/5's for about 20 years, perched on Atacamas filled with atabites and sand. An itch got me to sell the speakers and the stands for the Wharfedale Lintons - nice speakers but after 20 years with the Spendors, it wasn't the same. The magic is in the details and I was missing that. I had both seller's and buyer's remorse. I have a very good vibe about the 1SC though. Thank you for your very thoughtful and fair assessment of the 1SC.
Wow! That is great. I hope you enjoy them. The 1SCs work well with 24 to 27inch high mass stands 👍
Love them........., heard them driven by a Cary SEI-300B integrated amp back in 1997, having owned a pair, as well as 4 different variations of their Tablette model ( except the 2000 make ) since 1988 - 2012, I’m with you, there’s a lot to love about their overall sound, especially when paired with tubes | Naim | Exposure | Original Onix ( U.K. ) based amp location.
Memories indeed.
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Hi NosTubes58, thank you for sharing. I know of hardly anyone who has you level of experience with Proac speakers. I really value your input.
Hi Tarun. Indeed it will be interesting to see, what you findings will be between the B400s and a 20 year old ProAc design. As always the influence of the listening room may turn out to be the deciding factor of success with a given design. Looking forward to your video on that 👍🏼 ATB Peter
Thanks Peter, still playing with the S400s to see what they are capable of. Review in due course 😉
By today’s standards your Pro Acs are still outstanding sounding ; I own a pair of Studio 100’s (20+years ) that do the same things yours does ( to little lesser degree ) . With upscale electronics these speakers still sing ! ( they love tubes) Cheers Nigel!
Totally agree Nigel. Thank you for watching and sharing 😉
have you heard the response DT8? They look amazing.
Hi エリック, I have heard them at shows and dealers and have been very impressed. Would love to get them home for review. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Hi Tarun. Great new channel and nice work. May I distract a bit from the ProAc and ask a) are these Buchardts in the background, and b) if so will there be a S400 review? Has to be a teaser ...
Hi No Data, well spotted. You are right on both accounts. Watch this space! Thank you for watching.
Thank you very much Tarun.
Thank you Reinhart 😊👍
Hey Tarun you mentioned in my last comment yesterday on the ATC19 that they weren’t the best for low listening. Is this then the best that you’ve experienced for low listening? Honestly I don’t know much about Proac. From seeing your videos I think I remember you saying that proac doesn’t really lend you their speakers but is the response DB1 the replacement to your 1SC and if so would you say it’s a possible step down from your model or on the same level? Depending on the era sometimes products either get better or worse that’s why I’m asking this question. I’m seriously considering the ATC 11 or 19 and now I’m considering the Proac replacement to your model whichever unit that is of course. I’m going to go to a Proac dealer an hour away tomorrow in Dallas TX to see if they have any on demo. Thanks for your help!
What do you think of the S400's behind you? Interesting speakers. SB Acoustics woofers, tweeter waveguide and a passive radiator. Lots of boxes ticked. Bass is supposed to be incredible?
Hi Alex, they are running in nicely. Review in due course. Thank you for watching.
I was thinking the same thing. They look amazing.
I hate the S400, S400, Burschrdt I find warm Laidback soft, not good for imaging instruments.
Hi Mokta, I get the impression you don’t like the S400s? I thank you for watching in any case 😉
@@abritishaudiophile7314 God, I hated them.
I like to anylse music.
Superfine microscopic details.
I want to hear the truth.
I want to hear the masterpiece original recording done in the studio at way above HiRes audio 936kps
Hidden instruments playing on the S400 was not there. 3 were missing that PMC revealed.
S400 is for just simple and easy listening.
It didn't provide music like a live orchestra, music was ultra wide at 180 degrees.
There was a big hype going on S300, S400, but no one said they are on the warm soft side, not neutral bright.
Loved the design, simple rectangular sharp edges deep cabinets monolithic omnibalance design Oldskoll plan simple minimalistic.
Proac
Dynaudio
Monitor audio
Focal
B&W
Klipsch
Kef
Jbl
These are great for music
Sony ED range at 70.000khz from 3000khx and above, that's totally very rare that I've never seen no company accept sony making them. Beyond human hearing.
Hi Tarun, for long time I’ve been following your channel, and looking for a similar speakers like yours, the Proac 1SC, for my second system. Could you please kindly advise how the recent model the DB1 is compared to the 1SC? Amps are: tube Copland 408 and Pass Labs Int-25. Thank you very much in advance.
The DB1s look similar on paper to the 1SCs but I haven’t done an AB comparison between them. ProAc won’t send them to me to review.
I think you were very fair. I had a pair years ago diving them with wrong amp. I would love to try them again someday. Do think The DB1's are better or just different?
I haven’t done a directly AB comparison but from what I have heard there are obvious similarities. ProAc struggled with the immediate successor to the 1SC (I forget the name). The DB1 was their attempt to recapture the magic of the 1SC. One day I hope I can do a direct AB demo. Unfortunately, at the moment ProAc do not support reviews on TH-cam. Thank you for watching 😉👍
nice review. By the way, do you know how are this Proac or the DB1 (or D2) with a 300B SET amp that delivers around 7 or 8 watts in an small room, where, more than sensitivity, efficiency is required, that is, that the impedance does not have a severe drop and is kept as high as possible across the frequencies ?
I suspect the ProAcs will require more power. A single driver speaker might be worth trying 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 thanks so much for your answer! I have used some old, made in England, KEF floorstanders that have 91db of sensitivity, with a drop at 3.2 ohms that generate a very good sound pressure, with very tight, defined and extensive low frequencies. Recently some Zu Omen, which are practically a single driver with a tweeter to extend the high frequencies up to 25 kHz, with only a capacitor between them. They sound delicate, although the low frequencies are not as tight and punchier as the kef. But now I have more limited space and would prefer to have a good quality stand mount speakers. SET amps cheat a bit about the ability to deliver sound pressure. With only 8 watts, depending on the efficiency, they can achieve quite a high level.
Have you heard the ProAc Tablette 2000 signatures? If so how do they compare to 1SC's. You did a great job and fair
Not the 2000 version. The Tablettes are fine speakers for small rooms where you need close to wall placement. The 1SCs are more dynamic, have better bass extension and a more open midrange. At the time the 1SC represented the finest compact monitor speaker ProAc were capable of making.
Tarun, thanks very much for your thoughtful reviews. I’m a long time owner /lover of Proac Isc which I pair with 2 SVS Sb1000 subs. The result to my ears is fantastic. I have been thinking about the new Proac standmounts the DB1. Do you have any thoughts about these in comparison to the 1sc? Any chance of a review in the future? Thanks again, Russ
Unfortunately, ProAc have declined to send my speakers for review. I hope to do an AB demo someday 🙂
As a relative newbie I'm confused why many audiophiles have bookshelf speakers for their main systems!? I get the space saving aspect but often they put the speakers on stands so the bookshelf speaker now takes up just as much room as a floor-standing speaker would! I mean a decent floor-standing speaker is going to sound better than a decent bookshelf right!!?? Or am I wrong!??
Chris Kay as a newbie you are dead on. No bookshelf can give you the heft a decent floor stander can. Tarun knows better.
Hi Tarun, would you please recommend some of the amplifiers that would go well with the 1SC? Thank you so much!
Hegel and Exposure and good places to start 😊
An other great video...keep up the good work . Did you even had the change to compare it with harberth speaker? How about using it with a sudgen A21 SE signature amp? I think that will make a great combination.
Great brands and I love their products. Heard them many times outside but not at home. I have approached Sugden but I don’t think they support TH-cam reviews at the moment 😢
@@abritishaudiophile7314 pity Sugden isn't into youtube reveiws...a bit conservative from their side ...maybe you need to buy one yourself :). ..anyway if anyone should do a review of their products, it should be you. What I appropriate the most of your reviews is you technical knowledge, your detailed description of the pluses and minuses. You're also one of the reviewers who still stick to his gear for a long time and not going to buy the lastest new thing..because new is better by definition..You put things in the right perspective...and we mortals ...use our equipment to our enjoyment for a long period of time....
@@abritishaudiophile7314 I just came across some special speaker....one with TL and without a crossover ...It should sound as an full range ls3/5A ....pearlacoustics.com/ the sibelius...they post some nice video's on youtube aswell
@@Mrhifitunes that is a very interesting design, quarter wave TL with a single driver. It is my kind of thing. I wonder if they would be interested in sending out a sample for review. I sense an email pending. Thank you for the heads up 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 yes would love to see you make some review in this. That's why I send it to you😉 they are located in UK but warehouse in Belgium. If possible a review together with the sugden amp. They tested it themself with a ss class A and like it a lot...
I love these, totally agree their strengths are in midrange and how well the blend into to treble imaging god you need to spend mega bucks to better it for imaging. I have 2 pairs of Proac Response 3.8s they are brilliant and I love them. However, I heard the 1SC paired with two REL S3-SHO aboutva year ago and was blown away by the integration and extension, using theses subs if anything allowed the main speakers to just take their strengths out to another level. I can fully understand why you have kept them all these years. Stewart Tyler is a magician in the way he voices Proacs. I know my main drivers were designed to a Tyler spec and built by SEAS uniquely for Proac. Not sure about the sift dome tweeter though. In some of the big older D 100 Range and some of the new K range use ATC mid drivers but not sure what bass and mid bass. They do make some of the best speakers on the planet at any price in my humble opinon.
Hi Gerald, great to hear about your experiences with the Response 3.8s. I heard these quite a few years ago and I know exactly why you love them. Fascinating to hear your experience of the 1SC with two S3-SHOs. I really enjoy my 1SC/REL Strata III combo. Thank you for clarifying the SEAS drivers and I didn’t know that the K Series are using the famous ATC midrange but I can understand why. I love both those brands. Thank you for watching and sharing.
Hello Tarun
Thank you again, what is the sound difference to the LS 3/5a ,best regards reinhart
The 1SC are more resolving but an LS3/5A has a warmer sound that some prefer 😊
Mine are driven by a Croft SuperMicro pre-amp and Leak TL12's, an old school LP12 set up and digitally a Naim Unity Atom. Fabulous with both. Great soundstage, clarity and not a huge amount of accurate bass.
Hi Billy, I sounds like a great setup. Thank you for watching.
Hi Tarun
You can find all the info you need about Proac 1sc speakers on the Proac speakers group on facebook
The woofer is a Seas OEM unit also used the Celef LS8 ,only available from Proac ,when they have spares in stock ,Tweeter is a D2010 available from any good audio stockist like Falcon Acoustics
Proac Studio 100 is my speaker of choice with Nelson Pass First Watt F5 Class A , Hope you get to review the new D2R
Great channel , keep safe and healthy
Stuart
Hi Cloudy Day, that is brilliant, thank you so much! I really need to reconsider my position on social media and maybe join Facebook. I know, the irony is not lost on me, being a TH-cam reviewer. My excuse is that I am still find my way into this format which is clearly evidenced by the fidelity (lack of) in my videos, especially the early ones.
Thank you for watching. I bet the F5 sounds great with the Studio 100s 😀
Hi Tarun you mention using a subwoofer for these ProAc’s. Is there any particular subwoofer you suggest?
Hi John, REL always a good choice. If your in the U.K. check out BK Electronics 😊
Those Proac cost so much here in Australia $6,385.00 i would be saving for months to own a set of those gems!! look up" clef hi if", we pay full price here in Aus, i might move to England if we win Loto, i would live like a king lol. your a lucky guy mate take care and keep the videos coming its good to hear about things i like with people with the same interest.
Hi Jason, that is crazy expensive! Maybe a 2nd hand pair? I wish we had your climate, diversity of wildlife, open spaces (I could go on...). Great to hear from you in Aus buddy. Thank you for watching and your support 😉👍
Hello Tarun, Have you had a chance to listen to the Proac D20 R's , If not could you do a review ?
Unfortunately, ProAc declined to send me their speakers 😊
Hi, Tarun my radar quite aimed lately on the tablet 10 signature model of proacs. Do you have any idea on sound signature between the 2? my room is 11.5ft x13.5 ft. Quite small. I'm using a schiit aegir and saga + combo. I know that Tab 10s are rated in 10ohms and I will be fine in driving the speakers. I really like the class A design sound character of the Aegir. Your info will be much appreciated. Keep up your channel very helpful to us audiophiles.
Thank you Alain. Two very different speakers. The Tablettes much more natural in the midrange, warmer tonal balance and designed to work close to walls. The Argon 1 is more dynamic, faster and cooler in tonal balance 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 hi ty for the reply. Let me clarify, I'm inquring in between the proac 1sc and proac tablette 10 signature. Hope you have any idea between the 2 Pro-Ac speakers
@@alainbesario6679 thank you. The 1SCs are quite a bit better. More open in the midrange, more dynamic and better bass extension. The Tablettes will work better if placed close to walls though 😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 ty so much tarun
Always liked the ProAc sound. It’s all about what each listener is tuned to. My experience with ProAc has been with the Tablets and the ones I own which are the ProAc EBT, extended bass tablets. These are very fast, transparent and unforgiving of mediocre equipment in any system I have tried them in. They reveal flaws in the recordings, so unforgiving! It can be a curse which is why I am very careful about what gear I use with them. Tarun, you spoke about defraction effects and this can be dampened by using what I’d called a defraction blanket that is custom fit to the cabinet proper. It takes time and patience to fabricate them, but they do work and I have made them. They are not a cure for poor speaker design or execution of that design. Most bookshelf speakers need a substantial metal tube stand which has been spiked and terminates into a sand trap. Further aid comes in a sand trap that rests upon the top of the speaker. The top trap is spiked to the top of the speaker and enhances the deadening of the speaker’s cabinet. The stands are filled with playground sand which is completely filled into the empty tubes of the stand and followed with casting resin which fills the voids and makes the stand as dead as possible. The bottom trap is used for wood floors and absorbs the energy generated by the speaker’s cabinet. This inerts the cabinet and allows the speaker to voice itself as intended. It will shine or fall short, but it won’t be due to poor stand design or build. Speakers can be problematic if not treated. A speaker is an energy transmitter and as such, needs help to dissipate and drain that excess energy off so the speaker can be truly heard. There are other things to address, but addressing the common problems bookshelf speakers have allows the user the ability to truly hear their speakers and not their speaker’s problems. It also will reveal how well they actually do sound. One problem at a time is how we learn where problems are and how each must be addressed. The stands I use have a four inch square steel column, 10 gauge thickness and have 1/4” thick top and bottom plates. The plates are dampened with a thick pad of material that I cannot reveal, but that’s why it is called proprietary.
Very interesting as always Mark. Thank you for sharing this for other to learn from. I have never heard of a diffraction blanket. Is it like a sock that fits around the speakers. I would be curious to learn how it works. I will try and look it up. Great to hear from you my friend. Stay safe. 😉👍
A British Audiophile, the defraction blanket is made from foam that has bumps on it’s surface. It has to be cut at the edges to fit the speakers sides and top and bottom. Three Velcro strips hold it in place. They are not hard to make. They may not be attractive to some, but it is about performance, not appearance. The foam extends 3/8” beyond the front and back of the speaker. This is supposed to cut the edge diffraction. Still experimenting with the final design. It is for bookshelf speakers as for now.
Thank you Mark 😉👍
Love the copper bullet plugs
Hi Colin, they are super cool!
What is the best good looking amps (the aestethic matters a lot for me) that you would you recommend for it, for around 2k pounds or below?
Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder 😊
Hey there from Austria! Is the new version of that speaker the ProAc Response DB1?
would like to know that... thank you.
Yes
I have impresiion that you love this speaker, I am actually looking for somthink like that, an all rounder with pretty simmilar charactersistics, which I will have for long time and thats great because having that in mind it permits me to spend a more money than I normally would. I just want some base extention (no bumped if possible :)) so lets see what I can get from newer proacs. Yes I bet on 1. proacs, 2 harbets, and than kudos, spendors etc, and of course did not try yet neat acsustics which you recomended to my naim xs2 amp. I found one dealer in Slovakia so will go there also to check their little towers.
The review was absolutely nice and to me seems 100 percent objective. Thank you for this review.
Thank you kindly 😊👍
Uh... I've only just noticed this video. Proac Response DB1 owner here. I find mine great for rock music... In fact I find it brilliant for everything.
I have a much smaller room than yours and I find the bass to be very powerful for it's size but I can imagine that diminishing somewhat in a larger room.
I've heard similaro priced stand mount speakers but none come close to the DB1s.
I wonder what the changes were between the two speakers🤔
Thank you. I would love to A/B the two someday 😊
Sound like exactly what I look for in a speaker. I use Tidal and Dominique Fils-Aimé, Nameless (MQA) sounds perfect when turned up, but mostly my ears are still good enough to hear quality at average to low volumes.
Hi Paul, sound like you may be planning a new purchase. Thank you for watching.
Thank you for your great work,I am thinking to get a pair of proac response 1sc, on a budget what integrated amps will drive them well? Thank you reinhart
Thank you Reinhart. I appreciate your support.The 1SCs do like a bit of power to get them to sing and of course you need something to allow that glorious midrange to come through. The Hegel H90/95, Naim Nait 5Si, Audiolab 8300A and Exposure 2510 will do the job. If you can try and find a good used one or ex-demo 😊👍
Thank you, du you think a nad c316 bee can run them .
@@reinhartfrais2434 no, even the NAD C338 struggled. They don’t have the clarity either.
Thank you,last question du you think the Marantz pm 8006 can running them .
@@reinhartfrais2434 I haven’t tried it but on paper it looks like it should be able to 😉
Hello Tarun, I would like to know what you think of ProAc Tablette 10 Signature speakers. Have you heard them play? Do they fall too far off from your 1SC's?
Hi Shan, they have a similar tonal balance but not quite the same level of fidelity and dynamics as the 1SC. They are designed to work really well in nearfield setups and small rooms where they can be placed closer to walls 😊
If the mid/bass cone is transparent it’s more likely a material called TPX rather than polypropylene. The copper phase plug strongly suggests an SEAS design and the tweeter also looks like one of theirs.
Thank AudioFlat, I think you are right the consensus is that it is a SEAS mid-woofer. I think the phone used Peerless for woofers on larger models in the Response range at the time but they ate never forthcoming in confirming these things. I am almost certain that the tweeter is a Scanspeak D2010. Thank you for watching and sharing 😉
Yes, on further investigation, I’m sure you are correct about the tweeter. I was wrong about the cone material, not TPX but TXP and SEAS also did just such a driver with a copper phase plug and the same shape basket surround - so I’m pretty confident it is an SEAS design.
Why not bridge the M-power using 2 or 3 units, making it 120W?
I have Audiolab -C, with 4 power amplifier, making it 240W.
It is is used in a bedroom system where it has sufficient power. Also use it to see how speakers cope with a small amplifier.
Thanks for the great review, and also your video of what's inside. I have also had my pair since new almost 20 years ago. They are powered by a Creek 5350SE, through some pretty high level Wireworld cables (and the rest of the setup has silver Wireworld connects). I have always loved the sound. In a previous flat I had an electrician install several dedicated AC lines, which really helped the dynamics. The sound has always been natural and very pleasing even though I find them to be revealing (not as much as electrostats surely, but still good).
Now I have moved to a larger flat (the livingroom is about 40-50 square metres, with lots of angles (converted attic). Now the sound is still good, but lack somewhat. I experiment with placement and such. I have never been a fan of subwoofers, but have started thinking about maybe adding it.
If you don't mind I have a couple of questions:
- Given the age of the ProAcs, is there a need to have somebody upgrade/change some parts in them?
- Would a new/larger set of ProAcs be better suited for a larger space, and if so what would be the sweet spot in terms of pricepoint?
- Should I keep my Creek, or go with something new (and hopefully better)?
Thanks in advance
Thor Bostad I would consider changing the capacitors in your crossovers. The crossover caps used were not as good as what is available now.There is a plethora of really high end caps available these days. I recently upgraded some fairly new Solen pb series to Solen Silver Series and the difference was well worth the money. I was previously skeptical that it would be worth it. The improvement in micro detail and naturalness of voices was significant compared to much more costly improvements that I have done. There is a site "humble Hifi capacitor ratings" and a review of caps. Tony has done reviews on many caps and it will give you an idea of what different caps will reveal. Any cap rated 9 or above on his chart is a very good cap in my opinion. A cap upgrade will be much less money with a bigger reward (for the money) than changing your amp. Even if you decide to change amps, having better caps will be required to fully appreciate it. Good luck !
Edit: You only need to change the caps that are in circuit with your tweeter. The bypass caps for the low pass (woofer section) will not require changing. This is easy to do yourself. Just replace the caps with the same value as you already have.
Hello Tarun
What is the sound difference of the current proac responce 1fc and a soundartist 3/5a?
Thank you reinhart
I recall discussing it in my SA LS3/5A review 😊
th-cam.com/video/NU6WYGmrNYY/w-d-xo.html
@@abritishaudiophile7314 thank you !!!!!!!
Also bought mine in YEW!
Hi Gerry, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine 😉
I still have my 30 yo proac response 1S in my main system and I love them. Have you heard the new d2r? How does it compare vs the 1sc?
I would have to get it home to be sure but I thought the R version was a little bright. The non R version was a personal favourite of the late Stuart Tyler (ProAc designer and founder) 😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 what have you heard about the response db1 when compared with the d2.
How come there hasn’t been a review of the ProAc Response D2R? I’d love to learn about a comparison with Wharfedale’s Elysian 1 or 2.
ProAc won’t send me them to review 😢
@@abritishaudiophile7314 that’s really odd given that you use their Response 1SC practically as a reference speaker. But have you heard the D2Rs, and if so, what was your impression based on what you heard? If you don’t mind - as some reviews are very good but my concern is tonality, given that all my speakers for almost 20 years have been some Quad box speaker or the other.
@@jeremylynnchagaspereira3926 I have heard them a couple of times and they are very resolving but sounded a bit bright. That could be the Naim amps they were being demoed with 😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 thanks so much for your input! Will consider the Elysian 1 instead. I briefly heard the Elysian 2. Chesky’s demo album drum solo - I could pick where each drum and cymbal was! Spoiled the Quad Z-2’s for me. But the Elysian 2 are too big and too pricey for me.
Reminds me of the Tablette 3 that I had, sounded nice but to be honest near useless if you wanted to turn the wick up a bit. I've also demo'd the S400 in the background fro 2 weeks and was impressed by them but found them somewhat lacking in emotion. I'm enjoying my current model; Totem Signature One right now, very exciting and fun to listen to, great dynamics, can play quite loud in my small room. At the end of the day it's all personal preference!
Hi angi733, I will try not to give too much away as a S400 review is coming down the line. Great to hear about your experiences. I agree totally, it is all about personal preference. Thank you for watching.
Hi Tarun hope you are well , do you have any experience with the response D18 as a set have come up at a reasonable price , and im looking to make the proac jump ?
Hi Neville, I don’t have much experience with the D18s. The previous response 2.5 was a very good speaker and the current D20 has also sounded very good whenever I have heard it. Sorry, I can be of more help.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 I've bit the bullet and after a lot of research gone for them apparently they use the same tweeter as the 1se
HI there loving your advice, have you tried them with a gd valve and what did it sound like ?
Hi Hamzat, I have heard them with low powered valve amps but not at home. The 1SCs were very popular in Japan and used a lot with valve amps. A good valve amp should make the most of the 1SCs revealing and natural midrange. Worth giving it a go if you don’t listen very loud as they are only 85dB efficient.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 thanks for the quick reply Turun, but your speaker need lots of power to drive because of the make of drives have you heard of Ukraine speakers called audio contrast, they have crossover less and paper balsa wood drivers th-cam.com/video/yWm1vlTkdvc/w-d-xo.html
Thank you sharing Hamzat
@@abritishaudiophile7314 very gd reviews with valve
Hi Tarun , Hope you are doing well. I did a lot of research and reached the ProAcs tablette signature edition for near field listening.
Now trying to research on the amplifier ; I found some of the guys recommended primaluna prologue 5 integrated amplifier. Now it seems that I am diving deeper and deeper into a black hole and losing my peace , time and money.
Any suggestions for a DAC and AMP are welcome. I am not into bright music and I guess I am more of a female vocal guy and a mid range guy.
I have also found denon Pma 1600 ne interesting and willing to get something from eBay uk also. Forgot to mention I am based in Singapore.
The Exposure 2510 would be at the top of my list to audition with the Tablette Signatures Gurkirpal 😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks Tarun... I also saw your review of it and it looks like it has vanished from the new and the used market over here. This weekend I will go the Adelphi mall and try to find one. By the way , is the Model 3010S2 (at around 1000 GBP over here) be okay if 2510 is not available. I know 2510 is the exact Power rating that the system needs but 2510 might be a difficult one to get. I also found an old used Exposure 2010 at around SGD 478 GBP. I am not a budgeting guy, more like buy more and then earn more. Let me know your thoughts.
@@tango_gru the 2010 was the predecessor to the 2510 and the 3010 S2D to the 3510. We I reviewed the 3510, I found it to have more clarity and dynamics than the 2510 but not it’s natural tonal character. I should be tempted to try the 2010. If it performs similarly to the 2510 it would be a real bargain 😊
Isn't it essentially a LS3/5A type monitor? I know there are some differences, mostly in how they position the tweeter.. I've heard the Pro Ac, for a small monitor, those things are great speakers.
Hi Oneness, I certainly has some LS3/5A DNA but that was a sealed box, high impedance design and the 1SC is a bass reflex, 8 ohm design. Fundamentally different drivers but both 2 way monitors that share some sonic characteristics.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks.
Could you get the Proac DB1 in for test and compare? it has knocked out much bigger and more expensive stuff here :)
I would love to but ProAc declined to send it to me. They prefer to stick to their established review outlets 😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 that is a shame, but maybe they have another view of things now after the passing of Mr Tyler(may he rest in peace).
Have you heard the ProAc Response DB1, the newer version? I read a post by someone who talked to Stewart Tyler (RIP) during the 3 years he spent on the SM100 studio monitor. He told this audiophile he was using a Naim XS2 to voice it. This thrilled me because I have a Naim XS3. The problem is, in TH-cam sound demos, I think the DB1 sounds better than the SM100.
Hi Andrew, I most recently heard the DB1 with Naim amplification. Actually, Stewart Tyler was demoing it himself at the Bristol show in 2019. I was able to thank him personally and shake his hand for the many years of listening pleasure his 1SCs have given me. I am so pleased I was able to do that before he passed away. That system had a cooler tonal balance than my Exposure/ProAc combination. I would love to get the DB1s home to do a proper comparison but sadly ProAc do not send out samples to TH-cam reviewers.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks, too bad. The Response 1SC are very transparent to amplification and DB1 may be even more so. However, I really like what I hear so far, the essential balance and voicing of the DB1 is phenomenal. You can hear it on TH-cam videos for Pete’s sake.
@@andrewweis5857 thank you Andrew 😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Hi Tarun, this story has a happy ending. I wasn’t quite sure about the DB1, and was unable to find a suitable pair of 1SCs. I took a chance on a near-mint pair of Tablette Reference 8 (non-signature version) that I found in Canada. These are out of production as you no doubt know. They weren’t expensive. These speakers are so special (even by ProAc standards), it’s nearly hard to believe they were created by human hands. This is of course my subjective evaluation but I’m thrilled and delighted and I never tire of listening to them. I was so lucky to find them. If you ever get the chance, they aren’t particularly expensive and there are no doubt more of them floating around the UK than here in the states. DON’T review them (!). If and when you hear them you’ll get what I’m talking about.
Will you be reviewing the S400s?
Hi TSB TSB, they are running in, review in due course but a slightly different approach to many of the reviews out there so watch this space.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks looking forward to it.
Well done. Very fair
Thank you steve
What's your opinion on edifier speakers?
Plan on buying the edifier r2000db, they fit the budget plus they are active
If not edifier then feel free to recommend something else
Love your work, your videos are simple to understand keep doing what you're doing
Subscribed💯🌹
Hi Abhishek, I haven’t personally heard the Edifiers but they have been favourably reviewed by people I respect and trust. I would buy with confidence. I think for the money as long as you have reasonable expectations you are unlikely to be disappointed. Active is definitely they way to go to get the biggest bang for buck.
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel, I really appreciate it!
@@abritishaudiophile7314
Thank you for a fast revert back, your reply gives me alot of clarity. Mostly buying the edifiers
(post quarantine 😅)
Lastly
Edifier vs yamaha hs5
Tarun🤝long time no see!,.Im considering proac response d2,..I have vintage Chartwell pm200's just now,..plus Ive swapped my valve amp for Naim nait5i,......glad to see you're still going strong💫
P.s I love your listening room,..my room is like a labyrinth,.......Ive just about managed to get in phase....
All the best my friend,to You and yours 👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you MS. Great to hear from you 😊👍