Finally a review that gives a more in-depth look in the (battery)-tech, and too bad we can't choose a battery pack separately from the car-level (like choosing the Luxe version with a smaller battery). I've been in favour of LFP batteries ever since I started reading up on it, primarily because of the safety of this type, but also because of the longevity. Downside to LFP batteries is that they're a bit more sensitive to temperatures, meaning that you might lose a bigger percentage in range during cold days… but if it lasts 2-4x as long before degradation starts becoming noticeable it's a very small price to pay compared to all the benefits LFP offers.
Literally stumble upon your channel. Fantastic! Just what I have been looking for, a local review from a knowledgeable reviewer. Have been thinking about making the move over to an EV and this is the car that I am interested in as it seems like good value for money. Have subscribed and look forward to more local EV news and information. Thank you.
Probably the best describe of MG4 for me. I am french and I prefere watching your videos with subtitles (than others in french) to learn more features about this car that I ordered. good job !
Great video luke and great to see that you can buy the top specification trophy / exclusive with the lfp battery. Something we can't do in UK and Ireland. I can't wait until I'm back in Malta someday and joining an mg4 at cirkewwa to head to gozo on the ferry
It’s great that MG are serving all the RHD markets in Europe 👍 In the UK you can only get the LFP battery on the standard spec MG4, if you want all the toys then you have to have the big NCM battery. I know in other markets they offer the top spec with the LFP battery, do you have that option in Malta?
Thanks for this review,it was so interesting and different from all those other reviews out there. I’m new to the world of EV’s and ordered an MG4 with 50kw batterie and I’m glad I did since I learned now that it’s an LFP.
Thank you, I appreciate your comment. Yes trying hard to stand out and offer something different when it comes to reviews :-) congratulations on the car, how long is the wait?
@@TheFutureisElectric I’m a Belgian living in France and the waiting here is maximum 6 months. The strange thing is that some have their car after 1 month,some after 5 months… there seems to be no logic in deliveries. Some say it depend which color or spec you choose.
@@TheFutureisElectric 'The GeekWagon' has served me well over the last decade. I've started looking into the challenges of adding a hydrogen fuel cell range extender. Probably not practical, but how cool would that be?!
The most informative and insightful description on the pros and cons of the 2 battery types I have seen. And I’ve seen a lot of MG 4 vids😮 Looking forward to seeing the test drive soon.
The LFP battery also can be charged to 100% every time without damaging the battery giving some extra daily range. That being said, I still choose the model with the NCM battery for the higher safety and comfort features.
This car deserves a better multimedia screen. Preferably larger, but at least it should be a little bit more responsive. The should also redesign the instrument cluster so that the corners resemble the corners of the multimedia system. Yes, that is a minor point. But from what I've seen of this car so far it is quite good so you have to be a bit picky.
I have the car and history the screen is perfectly fine. In my opinion they should focus on improving some of the materials first and give some options to make the interior look a little more „luxurious“. Real wood trim instead of glossy black plastics would have been great for instance, but that’s also just minor criticism
Very nice review (this and the driving video). Thouh I'm wondering, when you compared the two battery packs, did you weigh in the techs that the car with the bigger battery pack has? Like battery heater and the grill that can open for cooling. I admit I might be looking for reasons to justify me buying the luxury version (that's how the one with the bigger battery pack is called here in the Netherlands)
Thanks for your comment, and for coming back to watch this weeks video. The heater will not effect the long term longevity of the battery, cold weather doesn’t degrade the battery, it will just reduce the range of the car in the short term but not cause degradation. The air cooling system I’m guessing will help in the efficiency of the car since it’s less energy intensive compared to the liquid cooling. But don’t worry, you’ve got a fine car none the less!
Iam so glad i found your video. Thanks for a lot of clarification of many worries i have. I did get a Preview-Car over the Weekend but it has the small Combination (170hp/51kwh) or "Standard" Version here in Germany. Because i love the "Split-Wing" on the Back with Glas Roof i consider to take the Luxury-Version with 204hp/64kwh but its a lot expensiver than the Preview-Car especially i could get a discount for the small mileage on the "Standard"-Version. i think i take the "standard"-Version and with the Budget i have left over i find a way to bolt the "Split-Wing" on it.... maybe get it a bit lower and put on some cool new Shoes. Thanks and keep up your Work ;)
Best review on this car by a long way. I much prefer the Trophy trim but it's only available with the long range larger NCM battery which seems to be less desirable. I am not a high mileage driver (about 10,000 km per year) mainly modest local trips. Not sure!
There is speculation of 500 plus km range with Catl Qilin battery options soon. Do you know chemistry of this battery. Is this the larger battery you menton in this video. Like you, I prefer LFP. I have heard Catl has developed a more dence LFP with another material, I think manganese.
The driving range is a bit of a vexed question. It depends on the type of driving you do on the highway. for example you can reduce that figure by 30%. That’s from Personal experience.
Great to hear information about battery chemistry. I was previously under the impression that the LIF battery's were not as good in colder climate, so good to to have this new information.
Your previous information is correct. Lfp is worst on low temperatures. Tesla model 3 has the same problem. Standard range version of mg4 aswell. Loading times are quite longer in winter. Mg4 with ncm battery got nearly equal loading times in winter and summer. That's also a reason why tesla is also using ncm on higher priced models like model y long range. Lfp has benefits like life time and saveness, but in terms of loading times in winter, the ncm battery is quite better.
Thank you for your excellent review. However, one wish... Please leave that unnecessary background sound away - to native English speakers it may well be just irritating but to us, to whom English is not our first language, it actually makes listening tiresome. At 10.40 it is at its worst, no way to call it music. But the review is great!
Hmm… interesting. To be honest I have also noticed with my car, which has a 11 kw charger that I’ve never actually reached this speed but slightly less, since my charger is connected to a meter at home which shows the Pmax and it’s never actually got to 11kW
In malta a model 3 will cost you around 50k that’s after you import it from a country where Tesla is present.. in most cases from what I’ve found they won’t even sell you the car in RHD
At last a channel which focused on the Electric feature of Mg4. Thank u so much😊
Thanks for your support
Finally a review that gives a more in-depth look in the (battery)-tech, and too bad we can't choose a battery pack separately from the car-level (like choosing the Luxe version with a smaller battery). I've been in favour of LFP batteries ever since I started reading up on it, primarily because of the safety of this type, but also because of the longevity. Downside to LFP batteries is that they're a bit more sensitive to temperatures, meaning that you might lose a bigger percentage in range during cold days… but if it lasts 2-4x as long before degradation starts becoming noticeable it's a very small price to pay compared to all the benefits LFP offers.
Literally stumble upon your channel. Fantastic! Just what I have been looking for, a local review from a knowledgeable reviewer. Have been thinking about making the move over to an EV and this is the car that I am interested in as it seems like good value for money. Have subscribed and look forward to more local EV news and information. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏
Your channel is fantastic, these tech deep dives informative and entertaining 👌
Thank you very much for your support
Probably the best describe of MG4 for me. I am french and I prefere watching your videos with subtitles (than others in french) to learn more features about this car that I ordered. good job !
Thank you, glad to hear you are waiting for this car :-) bonne chance
Great video luke and great to see that you can buy the top specification trophy / exclusive with the lfp battery. Something we can't do in UK and Ireland.
I can't wait until I'm back in Malta someday and joining an mg4 at cirkewwa to head to gozo on the ferry
It’s great that MG are serving all the RHD markets in Europe 👍 In the UK you can only get the LFP battery on the standard spec MG4, if you want all the toys then you have to have the big NCM battery. I know in other markets they offer the top spec with the LFP battery, do you have that option in Malta?
Thanks for this review,it was so interesting and different from all those other reviews out there. I’m new to the world of EV’s and ordered an MG4 with 50kw batterie and I’m glad I did since I learned now that it’s an LFP.
Thank you, I appreciate your comment. Yes trying hard to stand out and offer something different when it comes to reviews :-) congratulations on the car, how long is the wait?
@@TheFutureisElectric I’m a Belgian living in France and the waiting here is maximum 6 months. The strange thing is that some have their car after 1 month,some after 5 months… there seems to be no logic in deliveries. Some say it depend which color or spec you choose.
Very useful info regarding the battery chemistry; that'll be a very strong factor when I finally choose to replace my trusty old 2012 Leaf.
You’re welcome. Nice to hear you have a 2012 Leaf! That’s awesome! That’s going to be a collectors item
@@TheFutureisElectric 'The GeekWagon' has served me well over the last decade. I've started looking into the challenges of adding a hydrogen fuel cell range extender. Probably not practical, but how cool would that be?!
Good review. You saved me from a big mistake. I need range for the long trips I routinely do, but the NCM battery is a non starter.
Cheers
Great review many thanks, I’m waiting for the dual motor 🥳
Thank you. Great choice :-)
The most informative and insightful description on the pros and cons of the 2 battery types I have seen. And I’ve seen a lot of MG 4 vids😮
Looking forward to seeing the test drive soon.
Test drive video is out tomorrow (23rd Feb)
Indeed a very informative review from the articulate presenter. Well done Luke. This channel is one of very best. Looking forward to more reviews :).
Thanks Arthur
Great review! Anyone knows if the Cupra Born battery is LFP or NCM pls? On specs it says Li-ion battery type…
Thanks, the Cupra uses NCM chemistry
The LFP battery also can be charged to 100% every time without damaging the battery giving some extra daily range. That being said, I still choose the model with the NCM battery for the higher safety and comfort features.
LFP could be considered safer since it’s flash point is actually at a higher temperature than NCM.
@@TheFutureisElectric You also said LFP performs better in the cold, around minute 10. Isn't it the other way around or I misunderstood? Good video!!
This car deserves a better multimedia screen. Preferably larger, but at least it should be a little bit more responsive. The should also redesign the instrument cluster so that the corners resemble the corners of the multimedia system. Yes, that is a minor point. But from what I've seen of this car so far it is quite good so you have to be a bit picky.
Indeed definitely not the best in terms of responsiveness… but I assure you I’ve seen worse in higher priced cars too!
I have the car and history the screen is perfectly fine. In my opinion they should focus on improving some of the materials first and give some options to make the interior look a little more „luxurious“. Real wood trim instead of glossy black plastics would have been great for instance, but that’s also just minor criticism
@@Wuozlingaeven just nicely textured plastics or softer materials would improve on the gloss black
Very nice review (this and the driving video). Thouh I'm wondering, when you compared the two battery packs, did you weigh in the techs that the car with the bigger battery pack has? Like battery heater and the grill that can open for cooling. I admit I might be looking for reasons to justify me buying the luxury version (that's how the one with the bigger battery pack is called here in the Netherlands)
Thanks for your comment, and for coming back to watch this weeks video. The heater will not effect the long term longevity of the battery, cold weather doesn’t degrade the battery, it will just reduce the range of the car in the short term but not cause degradation.
The air cooling system I’m guessing will help in the efficiency of the car since it’s less energy intensive compared to the liquid cooling.
But don’t worry, you’ve got a fine car none the less!
Iam so glad i found your video. Thanks for a lot of clarification of many worries i have.
I did get a Preview-Car over the Weekend but it has the small Combination (170hp/51kwh) or "Standard" Version here in Germany.
Because i love the "Split-Wing" on the Back with Glas Roof i consider to take the Luxury-Version with 204hp/64kwh but its a lot expensiver than the Preview-Car especially i could get a discount for the small mileage on the "Standard"-Version.
i think i take the "standard"-Version and with the Budget i have left over i find a way to bolt the "Split-Wing" on it....
maybe get it a bit lower and put on some cool new Shoes.
Thanks and keep up your Work ;)
Thank you.
How's the infotainment system and does this vehicle get app support in Malta?
Best review on this car by a long way. I much prefer the Trophy trim but it's only available with the long range larger NCM battery which seems to be less desirable. I am not a high mileage driver (about 10,000 km per year) mainly modest local trips. Not sure!
Thanks for your comment,
How much in Malta ? In Ireland the SE/excite. Is €31600 LR ncm
The base model with our (12k grant) is 24k euro
There is speculation of 500 plus km range with Catl Qilin battery options soon. Do you know chemistry of this battery. Is this the larger battery you menton in this video.
Like you, I prefer LFP. I have heard Catl has developed a more dence LFP with another material, I think manganese.
I haven’t heard anything yet I’m afraid. However their high performance version is due this year, not sure yet what that will use
The driving range is a bit of a vexed question. It depends on the type of driving you do on the highway. for example you can reduce that figure by 30%. That’s from Personal experience.
Thanks
Thank you very much for your support!
Nice one Lukie!
Great to hear information about battery chemistry. I was previously under the impression that the LIF battery's were not as good in colder climate, so good to to have this new information.
Your previous information is correct. Lfp is worst on low temperatures. Tesla model 3 has the same problem. Standard range version of mg4 aswell. Loading times are quite longer in winter. Mg4 with ncm battery got nearly equal loading times in winter and summer. That's also a reason why tesla is also using ncm on higher priced models like model y long range. Lfp has benefits like life time and saveness, but in terms of loading times in winter, the ncm battery is quite better.
Thank you for your excellent review. However, one wish... Please leave that unnecessary background sound away - to native English speakers it may well be just irritating but to us, to whom English is not our first language, it actually makes listening tiresome. At 10.40 it is at its worst, no way to call it music. But the review is great!
Thanks for your feedback. You’re not the first to mention this. The latest review of the Fiat 500e released last Thursday is without music :-)
LFP battrij is very sensitieve in Cold whether..
You are right, this was my mistake
The MG4 is fantastic
Problem is LFP are for the moment limited in capacity, that's the reason the 64kw is not LFP
What is the limiting factor though?
Pity it didnt mentioned the long range 77kw model
It wasn’t out or announced at the time or recording
Totally understand
No one ever compares the MG4 to the eSoul.
I am yet to drive and looking into the eSoul, hopefully soon
I get 10,6 kw in AC
Hmm… interesting. To be honest I have also noticed with my car, which has a 11 kw charger that I’ve never actually reached this speed but slightly less, since my charger is connected to a meter at home which shows the Pmax and it’s never actually got to 11kW
Are teslas very expensive in the EU? In America a rwd model 3 is about $36k USD after rebate.
In malta a model 3 will cost you around 50k that’s after you import it from a country where Tesla is present.. in most cases from what I’ve found they won’t even sell you the car in RHD
In Europa Belgium.
64kw+black...luchery
38450 €
Great video, but the annoying music didn’t help. Also you can program the drive modes into the left hand side star button on the steering wheel.
Thanks for the feedback, good to know re the drive modes.
lfp battery loses more range in cold
Indeed
It's a shame evs are doomed to failure.
What do you mean?