I teared up when Leo was spreading the seeds and saying it's a prayer and thinking good thoughts as he does it. My choo (grandma in Apache) thought me to do everything in a good way; Leo exemplifies that in this labor of love for our ancestors, culture and our medicine relatives. Nzhogo nanda, may you walk in beauty.
I really got into growing cacti from seeds this year. It’s a slow process and they’re super fragile when young, but I find it more rewarding than just buying a cactus from a nursery.
Well not only that but u can get like 100 seeds for 6 dollars from mesa garden that will turn into like at least 60 or so plants which is like hundreds of times cheaper than buying adult plants all u need is patience
I’ve got peyote growing on my property in west Texas. I won’t share the location with anyone else because I don’t want people abusing such a special and sacred plant. I’ve found four places it’s growing under some creosote bushes. I keep an eye on them to hopefully allow them to grow as God designed
So amazing that Leos son calls up and asks about "his cluster", just a beautiful relationship with a very important organism. Such an informative video as always, the baby cacti are so cute!
I love it when someone describes their experiences when used in a very sacramental manner. It's always very simple yet powerful. The lessons learned are usually universal in nature.
If you’re not Native and you want to grow an ornamental cactus for personal use, the Bolivian torch cactus (Trichocereus bridgesii) has a spineless cultivar and grows quickly. This is a phenomenal conservation effort
Great video! I live in the netherlands. Temperature drop to -10c in winter. My Lophophora are growing unheated. Only sheltered to keep them dry. So if your talking adaptability. These plants can really adapt to a lot of conditions.
Thank you so much, I was wondering how they'd handle raw environmental conditions in various areas. Can I get seeds or starts from you or trade for them? I have many seeds. Would love to expand my cactus growing. Thanks!!
The first plants that I ever grew from seed were cactus seeds, taught by my father about 65 years ago. These were the seeds that grew into a life time love of especially native plants and nature for me.
This man is a saint. It is so important that we learn from people like this and make sure that this information gets passed on. There are so many amazing collectors out there with amazing collections... It's always so sad to think that some of those custodians will pass and those collections will get thrown away.
I got some saguaro seeds 27 yesrs ago and the plants are still going! Super fun :) Interesting that the plant is now endangered, despite being easy to grow and regrow. Those are poachers.
Poachers that sell the specimens for potting to interior designers in an apartment that then is featured in some decor magazine. And then they slowly die without proper sun and disconnected of all their ecosystem. Please, reproduce the seeds of the plants you have growing. Much love for you from a random Mexican
Saguaros are considered of the least concern, far from endangered. They are extremely abundant in the relatively small range that they grow. It's mind blowing how massive they can get, with not even a month of rain in a year. One of my favorite plants.
Much love from South Africa. Been growing Lophophora from seeds obtained via my own motherplants for the past few years, it is immensely rewarding. Great episode.
Wonderful work you people are doing for the Jicuri (Peyote) populations! Thank you! And thanks for showing what they are doing CPBBD! Much love from a random Mexican
Appreciated the Native American context in your conversations. Given my Missouri-ness, I hadn't given much thought to cacti (or how to propagate them) and certainly didn't know much about peyote. Thanks for that.
Crazy to see theyre still consuming so many wild collected plants. Especially when they're so small. Great to see them explore alternative outlets for their consumption.
Awesome knowledge!!! Hey Leo … Hope you are doing well. This is my favorite channel on plants!! Leo is one of THE most knowledgeable people on this divine cactus. I have watched him working to save this medicine for about 40 years or longer!!!
Interesting that Leo mentioned the gut health/good food relation to the cacti. I've been told that some Aotearoa/New Zealand Māori that consume mushrooms for similar spiritual reasons believed in only eating good kai (food) before consuming their mushrooms. Junk food could result in bad trips, so eating well and having having a happy stomach was part of the process.
Thanks for teaching us to grow cacti from seed Joey. Your vid’s from Michigan’s UP are still my favorite, because I used to live there and I miss it. Please come to Oklahoma’s Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge. I now live close to this refuge and climb on its awesome granite boulders. And participated in removing invasive cacti here near medicine park. Id really love to learn more about the native plants and geology in this area from you! Peace from OK ✌️
We acquired those seeds from last year. Now I know how to plant them. Thanks. Unfortunately the San Pedro cactus got too toasted this summer. Wicked hot in the Sonoran desert with little rain. And the local watershed is called the “Salt River”. So there’s that. Recently a squadron of javelina have been raiding the garden and potted plants right next to the house. They show up at 1am. Usually on Thursday …trash day. Smart critters. Easily weigh 200+lbs. They ate a large pumpkin. This is the suburbs. The bands of coyote hunt house cats.
Nice work Joey. This felt more like a historical documentary than just you filming a friend of yours. Really enjoyed it and I’m sure I’ll come back to this over this years
Thank you. Reposted to my university horticulture capstone class, as this week we are discussing the whys, hows, and ethics of seed saving. Much appreciated.
Well said. I agree the time is slipping away from some of our older "us", especially since we haven't the money to buy and set aside that land, for future habitat protection. This is so important to prevent the land used for paved parking lots to heat up the planet, even after it is abandonned, as parking lots too often fall victim. We need a plan.
Then do it! Start small, teach yourself how to grow your plant of choice, and just... do it. If you can't plant in the ground, use pots. In an apartment - use grow lights. You won't be as effective at first, but that's part of learning. Just start. Start small, but start.
@MailleGrace where can I obtain seeds inorder to start. I've had an intrest in propagating peyote for many years. My problem is acquiring seeds. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you
I had no idea that there was anywhere in the world with that kind of population density of williamsii. We've been embarrassingly reckless with this plant over the last 50-60 years, but it's a big whitepill that guys like this still exist. Protect this man at all costs!
This was so interesting. In the field videos you noted how deep the plants pulled themselves down into the soil, yet Leo has both seedlings and older plants rather high, does it make a difference? And I wonder what the ph is of the rainwater the plants in natural habitat get, has anyone tested it? Lastly I so agree there is spoken and lived prayer, not many “ live your religion” in my opinion. I wrote down “…planting any seed is kinda like an act of faith…”. Yes. Thank you Leo and Joey . 💚
Rainwater is ph neutral. It is essentially distilled water. I have seen Sandpipers drink from potholes miles away from the ocean after a rainstorm. You can do a simple experiment with rainwater, distilled water, and ph strips. You want to test the soil for ph after a rainstorm. Test the mud. You will get an accurate reading. Love, and Respect.
@@JamesGalipeau-h7i thank you much for that information, I did not know that. I do collect rainwater for my carnivorous plants. Recently I bought a Drosera capensis at a university plant sale, and was told by the lady collecting the money to use only distilled water on the Drosera, because rainwater had acid in it ( like in acid rain). That made no sense since the plants are rained on in their habitat…now, about the depth of planting and growing those Lophophora….?! 🤔
@@JamesGalipeau-h7i Depends where you are, acid rain has been beaten back but it's not gone. The epa has some good infographics on their acid rain program page, only for the US of course (the rest of the world doesnt exist as you may well know) ;P
I noticed that too. In the desert they're like FLAT. I have some I bought that are almost like that and scraped away some soil to see tons of pups forming. But the others I have are grafted onto 2 other varieties of cacti. I noticed many people with them potted are above the soil. It's likely something to do with chasing sunlight or easier conditions than the desert.
@@OffGridInvestor it looks like there is no difference in the health of them regarding planting depth which is curious because you would think the higher ones have more area to photosynthesize…plants are just so amazing. How are your grafted ones doing?
Growing cacti from seeds is a very long-term commitment. I have pots of seedlings from six and seven years ago. I keep them in a greenhouse because some burn so easily. I’ve tried hardening them off in early spring, but they’ll burn slightly, and I have to put them back in the greenhouse. I even put a sun screen over the greenhouse because they’ve burned inside.
I've been growing these little spirits from Graft and seed for may yeats. Cutest little green blobs ever. Hella slow but so worth it. This year over 37 flowers and from just handful last one was a month ago out doors. Late October which is really odd. I have some real troopers. One of the loves of my life. ❤️
Much respect. I like how Leo uses his fingers instead of a shaker to distribute the seed as well as perhaps the crushed limestone top covering. I liked the wall piece (for lack of a better term). Reminds me of four winds with the corners.
I miss my big half acre garden. Someone wiser than me once said "every weed is a prayer" and I knew exactly what they were talking about. People who knew the labor involved called it amazing. I was attracting hummingbirds and pollinators as much as I was growing veggies. It was love vine and lion's tail along with myriad other flowers. Fine water breakers are a requirement for seed propagation also. You can't F around without one. At a commercial greenhouse, I dumped out and reclaimed the soil from several thousand flats of tomato seedlings (mostly the trick ones called Ace that we filled other flats of other varieties in with but we sold them by the hundreds of flats all the time too) that a coworker watered with a hose they pulled from a next door house with a heavy head for big pots of evergreen shrubs. They immediately destroyed them with 60 or 80 psi and kept doing it till somebody noticed wtf was happening.
Ahh yeah.. love this! Thanks so much, Joey for sharing. I made the mistake of leaving this sacred cactus out in the sun, when I was learning to grow it. My friend/neighbor has a indoor mother plant from 1969. He doesn’t grow them to get high or anything, just loves growing them. Cheers, from Southern Oregon (Banana Belt of Oregon.)
Thank you for such an educational and wholesome/grounding video on propagating peyote. Leo is a delight and seems like such a genuine person. Would love to hang out and talk plants with this fella. Cheers
The fastest growing, hardiest cactus, and the slowest growing, most phinicky cactus, are also the only two cacti that contain Mescaline. They form an interesting Yin Yang (San Pedro and Peyote)
@@bigwombat7286its 10 to 1 mate, got both, one grows bigger and more quickly ( although Loph may flower sooner) but it also is 10% by milligram per cactus mass for extraction and/or quantified dosage. The water to hydrocarbon solvency via free base to acid to sulfate salt works well enough on both.
There's an amusing typo in the video description. "When pants are grown to adulthood...". "pants" should be "plants". This is a great video interview. He's doing very important work. Thanks for bringing more attention to it.
“If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen.” - Alan Watts
Exceptionally beautiful plants. I've never been exposed to cactus much and have never been fortunate enough to experience the lof. I wish people would give a crap about native plants in general, not just those they've decided are worth it 😞 You always have the best content Joey, this was awesome. Cool conservation effort since most humans are dense ( nicest thing I could come up with). Loph not lof, damn
A simple small scale windowsill method is to sterilize the substrate in an oven bag to prevent mold and algae, to put the container in a clear plastic bag and keep it sealed until the seedlings are a few millimeters big. This also eliminates the need for additional watering and the risk of them drying out during germination. If you already start with a container that is a bit deeper you can let them grow for a little longer until the first transplant
Germany is a way different climate but I once stole some moss from the train station and keep distributing offspring of that (it's very happy to colonize cotton fabrics and the strips are convent to distribute across previously sad urban concrete) It's nice to see spots that didn't used to be alive grow a tinty forest
@@hecktertheinspector there is one lantern with some mistletoe but I attribute that to birds (don't know how it survives up there, I thought they were parasitic)
Down in Star county. They build a Wal-Mart and score of over 10 acres and just kill everything. They don't even bother gathering up the wikd cacti etc. Fat as I'm concerned. Anytime I see a public notice of construction in my desert. I / we go out and dig up every porcupine cacti etc. Gather seeds move toads etc you name it. Otherwise it's all scraped off and compacted in to the ground or removed for full dirt.
This is so wonderful. I hope someday the Lophophora will thrive in nature thanks to people like this. I guess one silver-lining to climate change is that we might have more places on Earth that are habitable for them. Might make their habitat smaller though too, I guess it's impossible to know.
I 1000% want to dedicate time to this. I got a grow tent with some decent lighting and have some fun San Pedro varieties but want to branch out to more endangered and interesting stuff
Thank you for this video. I inherited a property in AZ and I flew there recently - they had saguaro seeds at the Phoenix airport and I bought some. Many of them germinated and I have probaby 40 little saguaros going. Now im on a native az plant kick, ive got ironwoods and palo verde trees im growing from seeds as well as ocotillos. I'm going to plant them all on my property as soon as they get big enough but it looks like itll be a few years. Ill also plant some cholla cactus as well.
Micro grafting onto Pereskiopsis will produce large, seed-producing plants in a much shorter time than plants on their own roots. Pereskiopsis has the advantage of tolerating constantly wet, rich soil provided the temperature is high enough (approximately 25° Celsius).
Lord knows we need to save this species and many more. This was a great video to see informative and interesting reality of it all. From year's of research into these things myself makes me sad to know we for years these hippie kid's ruined it instead of learning to use San Pedro for recreation instead of the sacred peyote.
I planted some by seed this year!! Wow are they slow growers only about a quarter of an inch tall. And my cat stood in their home and roughed things up but they did not die thankfully
I graft my lophs onto San Pedro’s to turbo charge my seed making process. You can literally be harvesting seeds within a year, instead of the 8-10 years it takes to bloom grown naturally. I’d say 1 year of grafted growth can equate to 6-8 years of a loph grown naturally.
Thats really neat. I think he's making them grow faster by cultivating them than in the wild. I just had my first lithop flowering season and am planning on trying again to grow them from seed, hoping I can get some. Ive tried before with ebay lithop seed but who knows the quality of the seed and I figured they where a cactus and just spread them on sand. So If these flower pods can give me seeds I'll be referencing this video. He's even correct on potential for burning by turning the pot with lithops. Another possible shared commonality. I tried to contact Abbott about my inability to grow strictly ornamental peyote and he didnt respond.
Im revisiting this video, because I got 100 lithops seeds from a flower and 15 have sprouted in this cultivation manner. But I used sand as a top dressing not crushed limestone aggregate. I dont suspect this is my success ratio as they continue to sprout. But Im thinking I should have not top dressed them and instead used the tooth pick method to speed up germination. I do not believe the crushed limestone would provide calcium as the calcium is locked away from bio availability, as calcium carbonate. If anything the calcium would lock out other bioavailable nutrient like Iron or Magnesium. As Calcium must be treated with an acid to unlock, such as Sulfuric or Nitric. to form bioavailable salts such as Calcium Nitrate, Magnesium sulfate or Chelated Iron. But I dont believe its locking out nutrient in the larger grain formats seen here. Calcium was actually locked away as chalk and limestone by sea organism coccoliths, using Co2 and Calcium bubbling up from the sea floor vents. Then converted into calcium carbonate through photosynthesis on sea shores, where the coccolith could acquire sun light. By product is an oxygenated atmosphere. Also most geologists seem to believe in only biogenic calcium. breaking physics as if a marine organism can create elemental calcium through photosynthesis. Their brain is broken.
the land is expensive down there in Tejas. maybe somewhere in New Mexico would be doable. the Echinocereus poselgeri seedlings i started are looking good. going to start these Mammillaria heyderi seeds next as welll as this crapload of Astrophytum seeds i just ordered.
They can do any kind of soil, really. They just need the heat in summer. Was just on the Tohono O'odham reservation yesterday and saw a really wonderful, healthy looking garden cared for an elder and his family down there that is doing fine in the ground, beneath creosote. The soil is all volcanic-based.
There are places in the Sierras in Mexico filled with volcanic rock gravel and big rocks and they grow in the wild there too. As said many times in the video, this is a very adaptive species, we just need to stop killing the populations @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
i love this vid man he is a very wise man too i hope he gets alot of support after your video he should have a warehouse if he doesnt already lol spiritual meds are real and people should be able to use them when needed not wanted
Yay, just the video I needed right now, I just got some Lophophora seeds and I want to give this a good try. Btw, for company, not for consumption. And for the feeling of achievement when the little guys actually grow 😄
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Thanks again for all you do to further education, conservation, and basic human decency.
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I teared up when Leo was spreading the seeds and saying it's a prayer and thinking good thoughts as he does it. My choo (grandma in Apache) thought me to do everything in a good way; Leo exemplifies that in this labor of love for our ancestors, culture and our medicine relatives. Nzhogo nanda, may you walk in beauty.
"...so unless I'm planting seeds today... I'll feel less bad about my children's situation tomorrow " so profound in a way
if I had children, I'd worry about it.
I really got into growing cacti from seeds this year. It’s a slow process and they’re super fragile when young, but I find it more rewarding than just buying a cactus from a nursery.
Same. I've bought a few but I have hundreds of seeds from at least a dozen species started. I find it incredibly rewarding..
be super patient at times they may not look prime but if they are alive they are growing.
Well not only that but u can get like 100 seeds for 6 dollars from mesa garden that will turn into like at least 60 or so plants which is like hundreds of times cheaper than buying adult plants all u need is patience
Same here but for rosemary, lavender, other things that takes years and years to get traction but have a big pay off in the end.
@@quercus_opuntiadoes mesa garden sell seeds for this cacti? Thanks 😊
I’ve got peyote growing on my property in west Texas. I won’t share the location with anyone else because I don’t want people abusing such a special and sacred plant. I’ve found four places it’s growing under some creosote bushes. I keep an eye on them to hopefully allow them to grow as God designed
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How many acres do you own? You say you've only found 4? I guess that speaks to how endangered they're becoming.
@@Z0mb13ta11ahase I’m on 22,000 acres. I don’t own it all but I have access to all of it. I own 250 acres of it
i forgot the address...what did you say it was again?
@@Z0mb13ta11ahase I have 400 acres. I don’t go looking for them, I find them by chance.
So amazing that Leos son calls up and asks about "his cluster", just a beautiful relationship with a very important organism. Such an informative video as always, the baby cacti are so cute!
I love it when someone describes their experiences when used in a very sacramental manner. It's always very simple yet powerful. The lessons learned are usually universal in nature.
If you’re not Native and you want to grow an ornamental cactus for personal use, the Bolivian torch cactus (Trichocereus bridgesii) has a spineless cultivar and grows quickly. This is a phenomenal conservation effort
I grow san Pedro cactus.
I've got trichocereus bridgessii, pachanoi and scoop and some lophs.....what's this cultivar u speak of?
@@AudioStorm1980 Trichocereus Bridgesii Montrose (Type A or B)
@@AudioStorm1980 You've already got it.
@grandmasterautistwizard4291 not necessarily. Within a species you can have multiple cultivar, be it subspecies or just very specific phenotypes
I've been growing barrel cactus from seed for the last 7 years. It's been neat.
I’m growing these guys in London. Been doing so for ten years.❤
Great video! I live in the netherlands. Temperature drop to -10c in winter. My Lophophora are growing unheated. Only sheltered to keep them dry. So if your talking adaptability. These plants can really adapt to a lot of conditions.
Thank you so much, I was wondering how they'd handle raw environmental conditions in various areas. Can I get seeds or starts from you or trade for them? I have many seeds. Would love to expand my cactus growing. Thanks!!
The first plants that I ever grew from seed were cactus seeds, taught by my father about 65 years ago.
These were the seeds that grew into a life time love of especially native plants and nature for me.
This man is a saint. It is so important that we learn from people like this and make sure that this information gets passed on.
There are so many amazing collectors out there with amazing collections... It's always so sad to think that some of those custodians will pass and those collections will get thrown away.
I got some saguaro seeds 27 yesrs ago and the plants are still going! Super fun :)
Interesting that the plant is now endangered, despite being easy to grow and regrow. Those are poachers.
Poachers that sell the specimens for potting to interior designers in an apartment that then is featured in some decor magazine. And then they slowly die without proper sun and disconnected of all their ecosystem. Please, reproduce the seeds of the plants you have growing. Much love for you from a random Mexican
Saguaros are considered of the least concern, far from endangered. They are extremely abundant in the relatively small range that they grow. It's mind blowing how massive they can get, with not even a month of rain in a year. One of my favorite plants.
I love how thoughtful and intentional he is throughout the whole process.
31:17 "This is an important plant. And hopefully you'll treat it right when you can and have some respect and some thought for it's future."
Much love from South Africa. Been growing Lophophora from seeds obtained via my own motherplants for the past few years, it is immensely rewarding. Great episode.
Can I swap seeds with you?
we have 40-50 acres of calcareous soil in the hueco mountains... how can we help?
Lol you know what you have to do 😂
Wonderful work you people are doing for the Jicuri (Peyote) populations! Thank you! And thanks for showing what they are doing CPBBD! Much love from a random Mexican
Thanks amigo.
@@peyotelorax 🤠
Appreciated the Native American context in your conversations. Given my Missouri-ness, I hadn't given much thought to cacti (or how to propagate them) and certainly didn't know much about peyote. Thanks for that.
Crazy to see theyre still consuming so many wild collected plants. Especially when they're so small. Great to see them explore alternative outlets for their consumption.
Awesome knowledge!!! Hey Leo … Hope you are doing well. This is my favorite channel on plants!! Leo is one of THE most knowledgeable people on this divine cactus. I have watched him working to save this medicine for about 40 years or longer!!!
Hola hermano!
Interesting that Leo mentioned the gut health/good food relation to the cacti. I've been told that some Aotearoa/New Zealand Māori that consume mushrooms for similar spiritual reasons believed in only eating good kai (food) before consuming their mushrooms. Junk food could result in bad trips, so eating well and having having a happy stomach was part of the process.
Thanks for teaching us to grow cacti from seed Joey. Your vid’s from Michigan’s UP are still my favorite, because I used to live there and I miss it. Please come to Oklahoma’s Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge. I now live close to this refuge and climb on its awesome granite boulders. And participated in removing invasive cacti here near medicine park. Id really love to learn more about the native plants and geology in this area from you! Peace from OK ✌️
We acquired those seeds from last year. Now I know how to plant them. Thanks. Unfortunately the San Pedro cactus got too toasted this summer. Wicked hot in the Sonoran desert with little rain. And the local watershed is called the “Salt River”. So there’s that. Recently a squadron of javelina have been raiding the garden and potted plants right next to the house. They show up at 1am. Usually on Thursday …trash day. Smart critters. Easily weigh 200+lbs. They ate a large pumpkin. This is the suburbs. The bands of coyote hunt house cats.
Nice work Joey. This felt more like a historical documentary than just you filming a friend of yours. Really enjoyed it and I’m sure I’ll come back to this over this years
Leo seems like such a cool guy. I'd love to have a refreshing drink on the porch with him and just chat about life.
Thank you. Reposted to my university horticulture capstone class, as this week we are discussing the whys, hows, and ethics of seed saving. Much appreciated.
Well said. I agree the time is slipping away from some of our older "us", especially since we haven't the money to buy and set aside that land, for future habitat protection. This is so important to prevent the land used for paved parking lots to heat up the planet, even after it is abandonned, as parking lots too often fall victim. We need a plan.
Eggcellent episode, Leo is doing the earths work.
Keep on people...
i grow these at home. super easy. the less care you give them they better they live. they thrive on neglect. i love my lopha's.
That saying at the beginning is exactly what drove me to start taking on bonsai , and fruit trees.
i would love to get into this kind of conservation , what a noble practice .
Then do it! Start small, teach yourself how to grow your plant of choice, and just... do it. If you can't plant in the ground, use pots. In an apartment - use grow lights. You won't be as effective at first, but that's part of learning. Just start. Start small, but start.
@MailleGrace where can I obtain seeds inorder to start. I've had an intrest in propagating peyote for many years. My problem is acquiring seeds. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you
I had no idea that there was anywhere in the world with that kind of population density of williamsii. We've been embarrassingly reckless with this plant over the last 50-60 years, but it's a big whitepill that guys like this still exist. Protect this man at all costs!
This is one of the best of your videos. well done
This was so interesting. In the field videos you noted how deep the plants pulled themselves down into the soil, yet Leo has both seedlings and older plants rather high, does it make a difference? And I wonder what the ph is of the rainwater the plants in natural habitat get, has anyone tested it? Lastly I so agree there is spoken and lived prayer, not many “ live your religion” in my opinion. I wrote down “…planting any seed is kinda like an act of faith…”. Yes. Thank you Leo and Joey . 💚
Rainwater is ph neutral. It is essentially distilled water. I have seen Sandpipers drink from potholes miles away from the ocean after a rainstorm. You can do a simple experiment with rainwater, distilled water, and ph strips. You want to test the soil for ph after a rainstorm. Test the mud. You will get an accurate reading. Love, and Respect.
@@JamesGalipeau-h7i thank you much for that information, I did not know that. I do collect rainwater for my carnivorous plants. Recently I bought a Drosera capensis at a university plant sale, and was told by the lady collecting the money to use only distilled water on the Drosera, because rainwater had acid in it ( like in acid rain). That made no sense since the plants are rained on in their habitat…now, about the depth of planting and growing those Lophophora….?! 🤔
@@JamesGalipeau-h7i Depends where you are, acid rain has been beaten back but it's not gone. The epa has some good infographics on their acid rain program page, only for the US of course (the rest of the world doesnt exist as you may well know) ;P
I noticed that too. In the desert they're like FLAT. I have some I bought that are almost like that and scraped away some soil to see tons of pups forming. But the others I have are grafted onto 2 other varieties of cacti. I noticed many people with them potted are above the soil. It's likely something to do with chasing sunlight or easier conditions than the desert.
@@OffGridInvestor it looks like there is no difference in the health of them regarding planting depth which is curious because you would think the higher ones have more area to photosynthesize…plants are just so amazing. How are your grafted ones doing?
A great Sunday morning view. Like church.
Growing cacti from seeds is a very long-term commitment. I have pots of seedlings from six and seven years ago. I keep them in a greenhouse because some burn so easily. I’ve tried hardening them off in early spring, but they’ll burn slightly, and I have to put them back in the greenhouse. I even put a sun screen over the greenhouse because they’ve burned inside.
I've been growing these little spirits from Graft and seed for may yeats. Cutest little green blobs ever. Hella slow but so worth it. This year over 37 flowers and from just handful last one was a month ago out doors. Late October which is really odd. I have some real troopers. One of the loves of my life. ❤️
Can I buy some starts from you? Awesome work! ❤🦋🧑🏻🌾🌵🌿🥀🐝
Much respect. I like how Leo uses his fingers instead of a shaker to distribute the seed as well as perhaps the crushed limestone top covering. I liked the wall piece (for lack of a better term). Reminds me of four winds with the corners.
Great to see such valuable work being done, and documented!
I miss my big half acre garden. Someone wiser than me once said "every weed is a prayer" and I knew exactly what they were talking about.
People who knew the labor involved called it amazing. I was attracting hummingbirds and pollinators as much as I was growing veggies. It was love vine and lion's tail along with myriad other flowers.
Fine water breakers are a requirement for seed propagation also. You can't F around without one.
At a commercial greenhouse, I dumped out and reclaimed the soil from several thousand flats of tomato seedlings (mostly the trick ones called Ace that we filled other flats of other varieties in with but we sold them by the hundreds of flats all the time too) that a coworker watered with a hose they pulled from a next door house with a heavy head for big pots of evergreen shrubs. They immediately destroyed them with 60 or 80 psi and kept doing it till somebody noticed wtf was happening.
Ahh yeah.. love this! Thanks so much, Joey for sharing. I made the mistake of leaving this sacred cactus out in the sun, when I was learning to grow it. My friend/neighbor has a indoor mother plant from 1969. He doesn’t grow them to get high or anything, just loves growing them. Cheers, from Southern Oregon (Banana Belt of Oregon.)
Thank you for such an educational and wholesome/grounding video on propagating peyote. Leo is a delight and seems like such a genuine person. Would love to hang out and talk plants with this fella. Cheers
The fastest growing, hardiest cactus, and the slowest growing, most phinicky cactus, are also the only two cacti that contain Mescaline. They form an interesting Yin Yang (San Pedro and Peyote)
Too bad people aren't smart enough to go for the San Pedro instead of the Peyote.
Aztekiums take the title for slowest growing. But no doubt lophophora and ariocarpus grow slow as hell
@@bigwombat7286its 10 to 1 mate, got both, one grows bigger and more quickly ( although Loph may flower sooner) but it also is 10% by milligram per cactus mass for extraction and/or quantified dosage. The water to hydrocarbon solvency via free base to acid to sulfate salt works well enough on both.
Graft the loph for turbo growth 😎
I be myself something of an acorn distribution enjoyer but this. This is the way.
26:39 Amen.
What a beautiful message. Thanks for sharing and keeping this plant alive.
There's an amusing typo in the video description.
"When pants are grown to adulthood...".
"pants" should be "plants".
This is a great video interview. He's doing very important work. Thanks for bringing more attention to it.
“If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen.” - Alan Watts
the cacti seems to have a calming effect
You don't even know how long I've been waiting for a seed growing video from you for. Long time
Exceptionally beautiful plants. I've never been exposed to cactus much and have never been fortunate enough to experience the lof. I wish people would give a crap about native plants in general, not just those they've decided are worth it 😞
You always have the best content Joey, this was awesome. Cool conservation effort since most humans are dense ( nicest thing I could come up with).
Loph not lof, damn
A simple small scale windowsill method is to sterilize the substrate in an oven bag to prevent mold and algae, to put the container in a clear plastic bag and keep it sealed until the seedlings are a few millimeters big. This also eliminates the need for additional watering and the risk of them drying out during germination. If you already start with a container that is a bit deeper you can let them grow for a little longer until the first transplant
think about it...all gardeners are optimists
Germany is a way different climate but I once stole some moss from the train station and keep distributing offspring of that (it's very happy to colonize cotton fabrics and the strips are convent to distribute across previously sad urban concrete)
It's nice to see spots that didn't used to be alive grow a tinty forest
Have you seen any other organisms colonize after the moss? This sounds like so much fun. Start an ecosystem literally from the ground up.
@@hecktertheinspector there is one lantern with some mistletoe but I attribute that to birds (don't know how it survives up there, I thought they were parasitic)
Literally what I have been wanting to learn about next! I even got land for it. Thank you for this.
Down in Star county. They build a Wal-Mart and score of over 10 acres and just kill everything. They don't even bother gathering up the wikd cacti etc. Fat as I'm concerned. Anytime I see a public notice of construction in my desert. I / we go out and dig up every porcupine cacti etc. Gather seeds move toads etc you name it. Otherwise it's all scraped off and compacted in to the ground or removed for full dirt.
I've been growing cacti from seed for 13 years now. It is super rewarding
This is so wonderful. I hope someday the Lophophora will thrive in nature thanks to people like this. I guess one silver-lining to climate change is that we might have more places on Earth that are habitable for them. Might make their habitat smaller though too, I guess it's impossible to know.
I 1000% want to dedicate time to this.
I got a grow tent with some decent lighting and have some fun San Pedro varieties but want to branch out to more endangered and interesting stuff
I had a dream about the teeny tiny seedlings! What blessing from Yussen and Mother Earth.
Thank you for this video. I inherited a property in AZ and I flew there recently - they had saguaro seeds at the Phoenix airport and I bought some. Many of them germinated and I have probaby 40 little saguaros going. Now im on a native az plant kick, ive got ironwoods and palo verde trees im growing from seeds as well as ocotillos. I'm going to plant them all on my property as soon as they get big enough but it looks like itll be a few years. Ill also plant some cholla cactus as well.
Micro grafting onto Pereskiopsis will produce large, seed-producing plants in a much shorter time than plants on their own roots. Pereskiopsis has the advantage of tolerating constantly wet, rich soil provided the temperature is high enough (approximately 25° Celsius).
yeah, i've been wondering why they're doing it through seeds when grafting greatly accelerates the growth
This video was the best part of my morning.
I have never wanted to hang out with 2 people more
this is my favorite plant in the world.
Wow, we asked for lophophora and he delivered a long form video!! Thank you!
Jesus this guy is informative. Thanks for the chat, Leo!
Wild, I was reading up on chaco canyon yesterday down a random gopher hole and wondered about the climate for peyote...boom today a video on peyote.
I believe you can spray the plants with aloe to prevent sunburn when attempting to transition to direct sunlight.
26:39 - praise those who take action 🙌🌲💫✊️
Lord knows we need to save this species and many more. This was a great video to see informative and interesting reality of it all. From year's of research into these things myself makes me sad to know we for years these hippie kid's ruined it instead of learning to use San Pedro for recreation instead of the sacred peyote.
I have sowed seeds many times, thanks for sharing your experience too ❤ sowing seeds it’s like growing your kids😅🌵
I planted some by seed this year!! Wow are they slow growers only about a quarter of an inch tall. And my cat stood in their home and roughed things up but they did not die thankfully
There's a town in TX for sale today for 100K. That'd make a dandy cactus reserve. Tell you what, if I had that cash laying around I'd buy it now.
Leaving this offering to the algorithm gods, peace brother.
I graft my lophs onto San Pedro’s to turbo charge my seed making process. You can literally be harvesting seeds within a year, instead of the 8-10 years it takes to bloom grown naturally. I’d say 1 year of grafted growth can equate to 6-8 years of a loph grown naturally.
Thank you. Enjoyed this video very much.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful process.
Beautiful presentation all the way through, thank you!
Thank you for all you do and your teaching - I will put it to good use in my small way. ✨💛✨
Thats really neat. I think he's making them grow faster by cultivating them than in the wild. I just had my first lithop flowering season and am planning on trying again to grow them from seed, hoping I can get some. Ive tried before with ebay lithop seed but who knows the quality of the seed and I figured they where a cactus and just spread them on sand. So If these flower pods can give me seeds I'll be referencing this video. He's even correct on potential for burning by turning the pot with lithops. Another possible shared commonality. I tried to contact Abbott about my inability to grow strictly ornamental peyote and he didnt respond.
Im revisiting this video, because I got 100 lithops seeds from a flower and 15 have sprouted in this cultivation manner. But I used sand as a top dressing not crushed limestone aggregate. I dont suspect this is my success ratio as they continue to sprout. But Im thinking I should have not top dressed them and instead used the tooth pick method to speed up germination.
I do not believe the crushed limestone would provide calcium as the calcium is locked away from bio availability, as calcium carbonate. If anything the calcium would lock out other bioavailable nutrient like Iron or Magnesium. As Calcium must be treated with an acid to unlock, such as Sulfuric or Nitric. to form bioavailable salts such as Calcium Nitrate, Magnesium sulfate or Chelated Iron. But I dont believe its locking out nutrient in the larger grain formats seen here.
Calcium was actually locked away as chalk and limestone by sea organism coccoliths, using Co2 and Calcium bubbling up from the sea floor vents. Then converted into calcium carbonate through photosynthesis on sea shores, where the coccolith could acquire sun light. By product is an oxygenated atmosphere.
Also most geologists seem to believe in only biogenic calcium. breaking physics as if a marine organism can create elemental calcium through photosynthesis. Their brain is broken.
wild i been watching your videos for a while now and just started growing lithops from seed :) more of this plz
Amazing work both on the vdo aswell as on the conservation efforts. Wonderfull
Thank you for educating me! Great video, love & appreciate his work, well done video❤
Jerry from San Pedro Mastery has great choices and I think he can get lophophora seeds too
Tissue culture is a fantastic option to help get these beauties off of the endangered species list!
I wonder if the waxy coating on those williamsii could be studied for better sunscreen or burn treatments.
I am wondering the same thing. Definitely a good research idea!!
Hell yeah, the more technical education from videos like this is so incredible!
the land is expensive down there in Tejas. maybe somewhere in New Mexico would be doable. the Echinocereus poselgeri seedlings i started are looking good. going to start these Mammillaria heyderi seeds next as welll as this crapload of Astrophytum seeds i just ordered.
Other than climate, Star County and other natural peyote habits have a very specific type of soil.
They can do any kind of soil, really. They just need the heat in summer. Was just on the Tohono O'odham reservation yesterday and saw a really wonderful, healthy looking garden cared for an elder and his family down there that is doing fine in the ground, beneath creosote. The soil is all volcanic-based.
There are places in the Sierras in Mexico filled with volcanic rock gravel and big rocks and they grow in the wild there too. As said many times in the video, this is a very adaptive species, we just need to stop killing the populations @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
th-cam.com/users/shortsKhk-o3qr7ew i added some limestone crusher fines in my mix but yeah i think it's whatever lol
Love the video, love the topic, you really need to add a secondary microphone for the guests cause I can't hear em 50% of the time
Great video! One of my favorites. Leo is in an amazing man!
Big ups, Leo. You rule.
Great video, well done.
i love this vid man he is a very wise man too i hope he gets alot of support after your video he should have a warehouse if he doesnt already lol spiritual meds are real and people should be able to use them when needed not wanted
Beautiful plants. I've never tried starting cacti from seed, maybe I should.
Great work, Leo! ❤
I just want to grow some. There so pudgy and cute ❤. This guy is awesome!
What a great story, thank you for this.
Yay, just the video I needed right now, I just got some Lophophora seeds and I want to give this a good try. Btw, for company, not for consumption. And for the feeling of achievement when the little guys actually grow 😄