I'm confused; AMD's Ryzen lineup is actually better for gaming. I don't understand why you're linking to "Intel gaming CPU" search on Amazon as "specifically for gaming".
I grew up in the Silicon Valley so it was common to have other kids’ parents work for tech companies. One of my friend’s dad worked for Intel and toured us both around the campus and into the labs where they worked on testing CPUs. My friend and I were working on a tech project involving an embedded Raspberry Pi and at the computer store he just bought me a Raspberry Pi to take home because he didn’t want me to feel left out. Point is- Intel employees are some of the nicest and most intelligent people in the whole Valley and their mismanagement by corporate money-grubbers is a damn shame.
Which is why so many people hate Intel. They'll blatantly rip off customers when they get the chance. When a company gets a monopoly, you really get to see them for who they are.
And here's 1 thing for you to remember,it was Intel who was fined 1.06 billion euro for anticompetitive practices. ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_09_745
@@smayansatpute i7 8700k wins out slightly in terms of performance (somewhere around 5-10%) ryzen 5 3600 new £165 (amazon) ryzen 5 3600 used ~£150 (ebay) i7 8700k new £405 (amazon) i7 8700k used ~£300-£350 (ebay) average 7.5% increase in performance for average 140% increase in price.... i'd say this is a win for amd!
The same applies to all industries, the engineers are often very passionate and proud of their work but due to timing, cost, packaging restraints we often sacrifice/compromise the product.
@TheGoat "Any idiot can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands."-Apparently. I appreciate this thought, sometimes I look at a small flaw in a product and wonder why it wasn't fixed, the reality is that testing for and fixing all those little flaws is what causes those premium products to be out of price range for most people.
@TheGoat no there are still benefits to a 5-10 year old laptop, it just need to be made well enough, with components that help extend its life and one that can easily be fixable. I have a dual core laptop running at 2ghz with 2gb ram (not the slowest of old laptops). But the integrated gpu was never capable of handling 720p video at 30fps, this has automatically trashed the laptop as even a media playback machine. The build quality is also bad, being made out of plastic it has degraded over time at least esthetic wise. I am sure we can build computers today that would still be useful 20-30 years down the road.
I've never felt more appreciated by an LTT video as the Intel validation engineer who's made sure that your PCIE mixed with core traffic doesn't ever result in hangs, silent data corruption, or performance glass-jaws on servers.
Y'all are a bunch of fucking cry babies. It's a giant team behind this channel that needs to get paid. Plus, there's no difference whatsoever on the content whether a video is sponsored or not. You're not loosing anything, they purposely make ads in a multiple of 5 so we can easily skip them.
Just wait till they get older... Linus: Hey did you take out the trash yet? Linus' Kid: I will tell you that right after I tell you this message *from our sponsors*
You never thought you’d see someone get so emotional over a processor company? I suggest you go onto just about any computer forum and say “wow I love my Intel CPU” or even better “Nvidia makes the superior graphics card”. If you put your ear to the ground like Legolas in Lord of the Rings when he was listening for Orcs, you’ll be able to hear the thundering of a million strong keyboards being slammed on wildly as people begin to type up their “totally measured” response to your suggestion that AMD might not actually be the risen Christ. I was on r/PCMR the other day and replied to a thread regarding GPUs that if you have an unlimited budget, you should buy a top end Nvidia. I got dog piled on. One guy said AMD makes better GPUs because they “care” about the consumer and that’s all that matters, as if caring about the consumer fixes their driver issues and somehow turbocharges their cards? It’s just so stupid.
Actually what he wants to say is that he is sad that Intel kind might be on artificial life support right now and AMD is taking the lead left and right. I agree that R&D is important and probably Intel has more money put into it but I can't believe that even with fewer resources you can't have good R&D. No matter how much money you put into it, at some point you won't get better results, unless you give it to aliens that are far more intelligent than humans. AMD is really pushing the envelope in thermal efficiency, 7nm processors, taking leads in production applications, and more importantly, keep the lead in price/perf. They must have done something right in R&D these years. I suspect they took some out of the GPU department to focus more on the CPU side of things. That's what Intel does. AMD took many chances in the past, still do, and in the ends it seems to pay off.
@@Yomom12388 nice LOTR analogy. You are totally right. The thing is, most people are not very rational when it comes to the choices they make. So when they have bought an expensive cpu or gpu (you barely hear this argument with a psu! For Example) they want to make damn sure they bought the right one. So while they scream at you (screaming always works great when you are pretty insecure), they also convince them self. Every time they argue, a little bit more.
I think as a TH-camr you often don't/wouldn't get access granted by big companies at tradeshows. So if they willingly let him see their "secret" room then that would probably be pretty cool of them.
Ever went to a trade show and thought to yourself "Man this isn't that impressive at all, i knew about 90% of this stuff" well that's because the real business happens at the café next door, with a lot of vodka and maybe a couple of lines. The tradeshow itself is only useful for small, unknown companies to get their existence recognized. For the big ones it's a chance to flex and do business with companies they otherwise wouldn't.
Bet lets be real you AMD fans always were shit talkers just like Intel ones back 5 years ago when AMD was in big trouble. You never changed, you always were the same, you always will be the same until you start ignoring the hatred and open your eyes and realize that good competition will push both sides to improve their products so as a costumer no matter what you chose(to your need) you will always win
I feel sorry for all the amazing surfer engineer gamer geeks at AMD that got laid off because of Intel's illegal and anti-competitive actions from the top, which stole marketshare. Intel is a scuzzy company, even if the mid-range employees are great. But then, you can say that about tons of companies... Exxon, Philip Morris, Monsanto, Vale, Dow Chemical. Nothing wrong at any of these companies other than some "human mistakes"... you would love almost every employee that works there. Great people all around.
@@BrawndoQC so what??? It is called not being stupid...you choose what's objectively better at the moment...period... if you don't do it you are simply a jerk.
@@Cosmopavone It's called being stupid when you're wishing bad to Intel while the best scenario is having nice competition both. You're ignorant if you do that.. I've seen countless Intel dead etc.. blabla
@@BrawndoQC you talked about " touching AMD unless you broke one of their arms 3 years ago" that's not whishing bad...that's making a choice buying what was better
@@eazen we've already seen AMD start using anticomptetitive practices by initially withdrawing Zen 3 support on b450/x470 motherboards. Both AMD and Intel are companies. And without competition, companies will ALWAYS get lazy and do exactly what Intel has been doing pre-Zen. So stop being a fucking fan boy and appreciate the fact that without Intel, your beloved AMD will be exactly like the monopoly that you hate so much.
@@cloodberst Finally, someone that also sees through all the bullshit. I reckon AMD will start showing their true colors pretty soon if Intel doesn't step up their game.
@@PeaceGuy802 I meant in like price for performance, dumbass EDIT: And btw, I am not an amd fanboy, I respect both amd and intel. Gpu does matter the most, I didnt say that it didnt, I just said that the advantage intel has over amd is negligible (at 1440p)
@@alx6985 thats basically the same as saying the advantage a 400$ Ryzen 9 has over a 150$ i5 is negligible when ur playing on say 4K with maxed gpu usage but ok
That move was probably purely in response to the outrage from only supporting zen 3 on 5 series boards. Only to hold onto customers not out of their hearts. And I use amd I'm not just being a fanboy.
people who move to intel because of this are dumb. you're going to pay more for a new intel motherboard then too and you'll get a cpu with less price to performance. and when intel releases a new cpu line that needs a new socket or chipset will they flip their shit at that?
Hear me out... I don't blame AMD for only having 500 series mobos to support Zen 3. By making 400 series compatible with Zen 3, the 500 series mobos are now useless. At the moment, PCIe Gen 4.0 isn't that useful.
Somewhat I agree with him, Amd has done a lot but they didn't get my full trust to build a 6k machine. I bought an x570 creator, a 3800x and just 2x16gb 3200 cas16 ram but my idea was to build an 3950x itx with full bells and whistles. It is incredible that 100 eu for a 10gbe module and 30 eu plx chip lacking (for a 2nd m2) on an itx mobo stopped me to spend extra 5k
What a great video with an amazing message.. hope it gets to the right ears, I've supported Intel for many many years but the balance is shifting slightly towards AMD over the last 2 years
Yes. They need a major restructuring. And they took some steps in that direction, but I personally think they can do better. Please remember that AMD started killing it in the CPU space with Ryzen, only after they went through a major company restructuring and poured all their resources into R&D. I truly believe, if the right kind of people are in leadership of any company, great things can happen.
@Me Sus seriously but that won't change anything till 12th gen as 11th gen is already out and 10gen processors will be cheaper and waaay better than 11th gen ones, just have to wait for 12 gen
I was ready to joke "intel shill" starting this video but this was actually heartfelt and very informative. I am once again reminded why I love this channel.
@Austin H I mean that I came here looking for, quote, "People dunking on Intel". This was the only reply that matched my search. Not finding any comedic/sarcastic/ironic or straight out toxic replies in an anonymous online community is usually wholesome in our age.
Really appreciate how you use your platform to advocate for us! You have a huge voice and large companies listen to you. They don't listen to us. Thanks man!
I like competition, it's healthy. 4 years ago I wouldn't even consider an AMD processor, but seeing how good and cheap they are now, compared to Intel's lack of innovation, I see this as a big win for us users. Screw the companies, users matter the most. I don't care if it's AMD or Intel who innovate, I just want it, period. So stop crying for Intel and praising AMD, instead look at what we got out of this "war", very good products from AMD, and Intel finally starting to move it's legs a bit. We are the winners of this war, not the companies.
@@pravda9646 Intel was using scummy tactics to keep AMD on the bottom of the food-chain. They have been fined too but since they made so much money it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure if AMD had the chance, as in it had the same amount of market-share, it would do the same thing, so the best thing in my opinion is to not suck the wet testicles of a company, like Intel, or AMD, rather the price they offer. They shoot lick the bottom of the boots of the customers.
@@pravda9646 The complacency is real, but, we did work our ass off too. I honestly think it's not really fair to judge our work as inferior when it is really the company's business practices that is "garbage"
As an Intel MT here, it warms my heart that some of my work here is being recognized in spite of the fierce competition going on in the silicon space right now. Thank you Linus!
Really great video, opened my eyes a little bit. Sometimes people forget that there are hard working people behind every company. Appreciate your work ! :)
The man who inspired me to get into computers passed away a couple years ago. He was a low level coding computer programming genius. He could effortlessly mess around in assembly, hex, c++ to do some amazing stuff. His last job for well over a decade was being a Sr. Security Consultant at Intel. He loved everything about his job it seems. He was working from his hospital bed consistently, from what I told.
@@GonzoTehGreat people dont just swap their multibillion company around, most of them will work for their company untill they die. Same goes for every kinda company, not only AMD/intel. Take a look at BMW/Kia. Once some BMW designers went to Kia, the whole automotive world went crazy about this. About a a few engineers, within some of the richest companies worldwide. Shows how stuck you get
You're about to piss off the entire AMD fanbase with that title...(haven't watched the video yet) Edit: I just watched the video, and Linus makes some very good points here. Intel isn't one entity, and the people in the company still deserve respect for the pioneering done in other(non-CPU areas) such as storage with Optane, high end NICs and WiFi solutions, and even an attempt at a graphics division.
If you take this video and replace Intel with any company it’ll make sense. Like no shot Linus why wouldn’t you want good engineering to go away? Such a stupid video. Almost as bad as the previous one.
It's a cleverly disguised hit piece. Linus under the pretence of loving Intel creates a video to low-key hit Intel by asserting unjustified scaremongering regarding reliability. The whole motherboard power thing is a complete non-issue given the overengineered VRMs of todays' motherboards especially Z490 ones. As for the “unknown” I haven’t seen Linus making any videos pertaining to the unknown possible reliability issues regarding AMD cpus that run with voltages north of 1.4V even at stock and are at much MUCH greater risk of failing due to electromigration than Intel processors will ever be due to thermals. And speaking of reliability and thermals … he dumps on Intel about using thermal paste - thermal paste is far more reliable than solder which is likely to crack due to crack propagation induced from fatigue induced by thermal cycling. AMD 'forcing' Intel to use solder again was actually a backward move reliability-wise but hey I trust far more Intel's soldering than AMD's given that it is Intel that invented and patented the current state of the art cpu soldering technique. And thermals by the way on Intel cpus are exaggerated anyway as these supposedly high temps that everyone focuses on only pertain to unrealistic stress testing (prime 95 small ffts AVX on, AIDA 64 FPU AVX on). Also most reviews report power from the wall mind you - not the cpu-only power consumption. In the real world, even if a real-world workload would put a big load on the cpu, it would not be anywhere near the prime 95 small FFT AVX and most importantly it would not do so for extended periods of time to impact reliability in any way anyway. It is not as anybody will be running this CPU (10900K) 24/7x365x5years at 80C doing heavy Blender AVX rendering. And we are just talking about the 10900K - not all the other skus lower in the stack that consume less power. Also, as a matter of fact, Intel’s cpus manufactured on that “geriatric 14nm process” as Linus call it, are more power efficient than AMD’s cpus on TSMC’s 7nm when it comes to higher clocks, when it comes to idle power and when it comes to light-threaded workloads. But hey let's focus on prime 95 small ffts and aida 64 fpu avx after 1 hour of run...because you know that's apparently very indicative of normal usage...Sigh, the stupidity in this world... I hope there was a pandemic targeting and wiping out the morons.
Great video Linus. I worked at Intel when Andy Grove was CEO and one thing he drummed in to everyone was to be paranoid about the competition (in a good way). Never under estimate your “enemy” and that together, Intel employees can achieve anything. If this ethos is still there at Intel then have no fear - they will return and it would not surprise me if AMD get their butts kicked. It is not good at the moment for Intel but like the Catholic Church it deals in the long game. When I was there, I remember one BUM (Business Update Meeting) where Andy Grove spoke about how Intel had the opportunity to buy AMD. Andy said the Board had decided against it as they felt AMD would never be more than a thorn in their side but more importantly competition is good for Intel...
This is an excellent video. Everything you've observed with AMD, has been what I've seen as well. Whats interesting is, the lack of comprehensive engineering has been true since the early 2000s. At that time, even though the Athlon 64 was far and away a better processor - Intel generally had fewer issues which made support easier. It looks like there repeating that same pattern.
This episode of Linus Tech Tips is a humble advice from Linus to intel regarding their ongoing behaviour and how intel could damage its reputation of being a reliable and polished product designer and manufacturer, he further solidifies his concerns by referencing to the past where intel did a mistake of haphazardly responding to rising competition from AMD and is worried the intel could repeat the same mistake with the 10th gen, which hints his request bias to the business and management side of intel. He humbly advises intel to take a deep breath and focus on taking the time and money to develop newer better products to go against AMD rather than just running through the fire on a path to sustained upper hand in market share. Thank you this has been the Leader. Cheers!
I have more than 17 years of experience as a computer technician. And the only Chipset I saw blow up was from an Intel Motherboard with Socket 775, I don't remember the model at the moment. But beyond that I still think that Intel is more of a company than AMD. And I always decide, when it comes to buying, not for the propaganda but for what the product offers me for the money I pay. I have had more than 50 configurations on my personal PC and I think that AMD and Intel are 50% and 50% of them. Why? Because I am not a "Fan Boy" but I am looking for the best product and often the best service. One thing AMD has to envy Intel is the warranty it offers. Speed, seriousness and efficiency in RMA replacements is EXCEPTIONAL from Intel. And I did not see that in another brand. (I clarify that I was in Argentina and through UPS in 1 or 2 weeks I had the replacement at my address). @Linus I understand your video and I identify with this way of thinking. Cheers
Don’t worry about that...they are still hold quite a lot of marketshare. For now we need to raise amd so that intel have to fear and do the right thing
@@NamelessPassenger AMD was actually limited by supply. It's good thing that a lot of people still fanboy with intel. If most people were buying AMD, the demand will strip supply and we can see price hike, rendering AMD core advantages gone
Even reasoning for the good of customers, you will still be getting hate from them because you said something against their beloved processor... I dont whant to live in this world with society of dumbasses
Even though AMD is just better right now people Still buy Intel because many casual consumers dont know that i7 isnt the Best CPU right now anymore So while there is no performance competition, on the market there is kinda reasonable competition
I've been using Intel processor(I5-6600K) to produce productivity(Main in GIS and RS etc) far before the AMD ZEN was announced. Last month I switched to 3500X into my regular works, and it wasn't pleasure, I first had to change my memories because their frequency doesn't match, causing sudden reboot\froze. And I also got caught by too many issues using my software, no big deal, but annoying. Left alone the slight performance lag compare to AMD‘s, the Intel processor has performed astonishing stability&compatibility during my days. I can even drunk out of consciousness and work on it and woke up second day found out my games and tools still running fine. So my point is Intel is not that suck for you guys to exaggerate. I'm going to exchange this 3500X for I5 10500, and finally leave all those AMD issues behind. High score DOESN'T mean everything. I will still put my bet on Intel!
God you fucking people are so fucking annoying. AMD isn’t your fucking friend even if they do like to try to seem cool by fraudulently telling people fake stuff about chipset compatibilitys.
AMD’s engineers deserved this video more than Intel’s. They worked under smaller budgets with smaller teams and still created an amazing product. All that money for R&D Intel has and what do they have to show for it? Nickel and dime-ing adds up Linus. Yea things might just “work” with Intel’s products but give the same amount of money to AMD’s devs and engineers and I bet their products will also have fewer issues after rollout. You can’t test for unique scenarios when there’s no budget to account for it.
Intel doesn't deserve a video like this any more than anyone else. I'm wondering, by this logic, why linus made this video. Maybe he just wants competition between amd and intel which wouldn't be too bad.
@@PlanetXtreme Launch is tomorrow . Linus has the scoop, CPU's are pbl a HUGE disappointment, to me this looks like a preemptive "sorry, but not gonna lie for you guys, this is crap..."
@ OpLapDancePikachu69 Totally agree with you. Was about to post the same before i saw your comment. I get where Linus is coming from, i really do, but for me personally this video just felt weird, cringy and left a bad taste in my mouth...
In my opinion Intel makes the most stable and hassle free processor. I have an I7-6700K for my home pc, with a 1080TI and I couldn't be happier and it's 4 years old. Runs every thing at max 100+ FPS 2K. Rarely ever crashes, and who knows maybe AMD fixed that but in my past experience their processors don't run as smooth in windows, causing everything to crash more.
So, a lot changing on the TH-cam tech community lately: new LTT intro, Linus growing a beard, Austin not saying "hey guys, this is Austin! " anymore, what's next, Steve from GamersNexus getting his head shaved on livestream?
Nah you want AmD to pull ahead so that they can level the playing field and than have them trading blows and idealy have 3rd or 4th competitors join in like ARM, or Risk V
Do you know what competition does today? When they get to the point where they are not able to improve the product but there is a push on them to innovate will cause stupid moves, especially drastic moves that makes them look like they did something special, because the other didn't. This is why we are not having headphone jacks. Or ethernet ports on laptops. I don't want to see that future where processor manufacturers are removing essential features just to show how they are up to date. It is not healthy either to let them be lazy, but it isn't either to push them do their job. Worst things happen both way.
@@dongurudebro4579 agree. After all the bull that Intel did with hugely monopolizing the market in the 90s and early 2000s by paying companies to not sell AMD or build interior pcs at the same price, Intel needs to get leveled for a good while. We need general consumers, not tech enthusiasts, find AMD to have the same brand power and vendors to also make good systems for the money without dumb disadvantages like color or bad cooling that Intel has paid vendors to do to reduce competition
@@hubertnnn kinda off, im sure intel and amd will pull the government copyright cards on each other and stagnate again. srry kiddo but true "capitalism" only exist without goverment
Dude Linus, thanks. I actually became somewhat of a fanboy for blue when your videos started to show up back then. I've been engineering the $h17 out a few years now and always feel enthusiastic and open to hearing you and all of youtube take a view on what's out. Thanks AMD for catching up and letting us put all the calories into the right minds again!
full disclosure: I just bought an amd high-end processor. Idk, if it's since you did that "i'm retiring" stream, and idk if its just me, but i just love the amount of nuance you've been showing in videos lately. i don't mean necessarily specs wise, but on a human level. the first 30 ish seconds of this video summed it up for me. yes there are so many big companies, and yes the companies at time suck. but they are all made up of amazing people, that do amazing things. I've worked as a rep for a big company before, with at the time an inferior product value wise, but I did what i could to help people find the right product, regardless of brand and knew that the product i was supposed to sell wasn't for everyone. i relate to that story of the guy who showed you the exciting new tech just for shits and giggles. thank you from another BC guy for being rational, and fucking real.
@@ikbintom I think he was payed a lot of money by Intel over the time. It is quite easy to see why he "loves" Intel, if you're not naive. Maybe even this whole video is payed by Intel, i mean, indirectly it is anyway.
Precisely. I've never commented on any Linus video, I've always watched anonymously (logged-out), but HAD to dislike. I never saw Linus saying "don't give up on AMD" when the were about to die only a few years ago?! AMD *finally* has a competing product (after what seems forever) and money only starting to come in for the past 2 years, and LTT is already sucking up with Intel - a goliath and an evil company which has done quite a lot of anti-competitive damage, not to mention their alliance with an apartheid state that interferes in western democracies. Harsh yes, but disgusting behaviour from Linus!
This also reminds me of iOS vs Android Windows vs macOS Windows vs Linux (which is still on going rn but is also dying bc people seem to care about Intel vs AMD war now)
I have an i7 10750H, and I can confirm it runs hot. When my battery setting is on best performance, it runs at a steady 4.8 GHz. I love the CPU but I have to be careful when playing games, because it doesn't take long to reach 100 C and start throttling
@Harley Speedthrust didnt you know the Omen 15 had an AMD version? You couldve gone for that or same as mine a lot of people say the Helios 300 has good thermals bc of its somewhat rare cooling solution where there are vents on both sides where cool air can get in and the vents at the back are for the heat the 2020 model also introduced 20 vents on the top for either extra heat vents or cooling vents not entirely sure but the Omen 15 is still a great laptop you shouldve gone for the AMD version bc its cheaper and runs cooler i think
But one the downsides of the Helios 300 compared to the Omen 15 is the battery the battery sucks on the Helios 300 you cant have about more than 1 hour off charge
🤣 Those relationships are full of raw emotions! Let Linus reminisce about the good times while Intel is still sober. Because Friday is coming and I'm pretty sure Intel plans on coming back to him drunk and swinging.
Not gonna lie. Had me in the first half. Good video though. I think too often we forget that companies aren't just PR firms. It's a collection of passionate people too. I hope Intel fights back because when Intel and AMD compete we the consumer win.
agree, as AMD Fanboy (I heard blue pitchfork coming for me), I love Intel give a true fight! I kinda love when intel on 4XXX to 6XXX, which very-very good performance and until today we see still many user use CPU form that generation, even for me that time, reconsider to didn't wait ZEN and just go build i7 6XXX cpu that time. I mean, Linus right there point it out, AMD is have people there, but LESS than intel had... and AMD must fight not only 1 company, but 2, which is NVIDIA as well... with less resource that each competitor had... I really wish Intel give good fight back, because the right fight will push AMD more, and we as customer benefit from it, which we will get better technology, performance, and design. We like price war, but those 3 point also important as well.
They've been lazy since forever. With these "generational" upgrades. All 14nm and it's quite obvious Intel were just chilling with no competition. AMD Ryzen comes out of nowhere and takes the crown. I hope that we start seeing loads of mainstream consumer laptops use AMD Ryzen instead of Intel with the windows 10 fully optimized.
@@Dezekiel_Ferguson You see if you want a few things like. Good screen, good trackpad, good keyboard, no case flex, good battery life and consider them essential for a laptop. There are very few options and the windows options aren't a lot cheaper.
I've owned a lot of AMD and Intel products over the years and Intel have always been leaps ahead in reliability and stability; even when they haven't always had the headline speeds. Its not as exciting, but it matters to me more than anything else. I need my workstation to just work, I don't have time for issues. I barely notice a 5% performance swing, but one BSOD and suddenly I have to start worrying about my data and fail over, not to mention lost time. So I definitely second Linus here, don't change Intel keep your core identity. Everyone focuses on Benchmarks, but qualitative factors get ignored and once you settle into using your hardware they are ultimately much more important.
Was a fair comment now that motherboard makers etc are making good products for the superior cpus AMD is the way to go, I hate having to redo videos because of failures or too may dropped frames and just plain waiting, since I have changed to Ryzen I have had almost no issues with any projects and reliability is brilliant. I have had 2 i7 cpus die on me both were just out of warranty also lost an i5 so reliability is still hit and miss.
@@Sabumnim666 Everyone's experience is different. I am a computer programmer and as a contractor I have worked in lots of companies with 1000s of other developers and in general the consensus is that AMD chips have never been reliable enough. It may be something particular to our work load, it maybe just the excess use (we are working constantly 60 hours a week on average). It maybe that niggles that would be ignored in other workflows are more heinous during compilation. Reliability is king for us and intel has always won hands down. It would be great if AMD caught up in this regard as well but it will take time to get a feel for this.
Performance I can measure and compare. Anything I cant measure I treat like marketing, for all I know it might be just another "blast processing". And lets be honest, you are not going to use your cpu THAT long, if it wont die, the motherboard will and you'll find that all new ones have different sockets. Eventually you will want to upgrade anyway.
@@Sitheral I bought this 4820k in may 2014 and both it and the motherboard have worked without fault since then. It is being used 80 hours a week and it is the source of my livelihood so reliability is very important to me. Good resilient hardware lasts. That thing you can't quantify and therefore choose to ignore for some of us is the most important factor. While you can't measure it on a single instance of hardware if you work in the industry you'll be exposed to 100s of pcs and servers every year and you really can start to build an idea of what is resilient and what is not. Quality matters, the fact you can't run a program to prove it is irrelevant. Cinebench R20 is an absolutely pointless benchmark for 95% of users because they won't be using software that is multicore. So I'd argue it's speed that is irrelevant and is marketing hype, not quality. AMD are winning ATM but it's pretty synthetic in reality, single core speed is still more important to most peoples use cases.
@@codemonkeyalpha9057 I Look, I bought Intel cpu as well, 4th gen and it still works with the motherboard, but I can say the same about my laptop with AMD CPU which is actually way older, so why would I believe in some mythical Intel quality?
We Would Still Probably Be Using 4 Core 600$ CPUs If it we’re not for AMD - But I agree, Intel is not perfect but it’s not always the best choice either.
well, that's how a monopoly works, if you don't have competition, you don't have to innovate. Just keep in mind that AMD isn't an inherently good company, they just need to build market share so they *literally* can't afford to get bad press
Amd would most likely do the same if they could. Actually we're likely to see somewhat steeper prices for next gen AMD stuff if intel can't keep up. Because why sell for cheap if you can charge more and still sell almost as much?
They upcharged us for years. Thanks to AMD you can find a good cpu, even an intel one, for cheap. We'd still be in the stone age if it weren't for them.
@Jai Rey "stone age" would be 14-nm 4-core non hyper threaded, with the hyper threaded option being an enthusiast feature that costs way too much, locked clock speeds for non-enthusiasts chips also, possibly gated by chipset requirements to appease mobo manufacturers, "unlocked" clocks being a premium feature, possibly the same thing with boost speeds, a feature I can see further gated by TDP limitations, which also gets into warranty territory. Also compatibility with PCIE-lanes. Graphics on-board? well, certainly not gaming quality in any way, at best you get 2D desktop maybe perhaps (sad that I have to say that about Intel, but without an AMD competitor would they really have been driving small form factor, graphics and mobile so hard??) So yes, the stone ages.
I love both companies, and I miss Texas Instruments, IBM, Motorola and MOS, etc. These guys made our lives so much different and have innovated and continue to innovate in miraculous ways. Sure they have their faults, but they're not sports teams. You neither need to, nor should you be picking a "side".
Its much more easy to AMD than acting in the real world. They just have to book some of the best scripted ads at LTT. Wake up AMD Marketing - I want to get entertained by you!🤣
amd represent value since athlon fx, they lacked since then that's why many stuff works better on intel, intel slept for years since sandy bridge for two reason 1. no competition and 2. no software takes advantage of cores beyond 4, blame software developers they didn't go beyond capabilities, for example photoshop is being the same shit since 15 years ago, oh now finally they take advantage on gpu wow what a waste of time they screw hardware, only things that really put our pc to test are fukin video games, and that's why cpus are the same performance since sandy bridge I bet my old pc with i7 2600k beats the shit out of all the amd and intel cpus of $300 and under... again blame the software developers and maybe smartphones, because everything is build an app.
Buy a processor on Amazon specifically for gaming: geni.us/yUdK
Buy a processor on Amazon for almost literally anything else:
Ryzen 5 3600: geni.us/Cfxr
Ryzen 7 3700X: geni.us/XuoSBk1
Ryzen 7 3800X: geni.us/6M3LTE
Ryzen 7 3900X: geni.us/jye2
Ryzen 9 3950X: geni.us/dYFW
you post this now
wow. I see "4 mins ago" as the time posted
is this a way for money?
I'm confused; AMD's Ryzen lineup is actually better for gaming. I don't understand why you're linking to "Intel gaming CPU" search on Amazon as "specifically for gaming".
"I still love intel," recommended 5 AMD CPUs. lmao
Intel not calling their employees Intelectuals seems like a missed opportunity
Underrated
I guess.. They arent intellectual, then.
Same with amd
Or Intellites
Actually, they are, but they're subtle about it. Look up a "math joke" Intel ad :)
Linus at a funeral: I wanna share a few things about this person's life................After a message from our sponsor
He has already recorded his sponsored funeral message
That's why it has "fun" in it...
Isn't this Intel funeral speech by Linus?
"I remember... when I gave him a good pair of underwear... lttstore. com... And he loved them as they were really comfortable."
**drops his trousers to expose his LTT underwear to the mourners**
Linus at a funeral:
Speaking of letting someone down, you will never be let down by today's sponsor....
amds graphics division
Omega Coffins. With their Fiber polstered Coffins you won't even notice that you're dead. Use the cupon code Linus to get 10% for your next order.
Right
Before we continue this funeral, I’d like to thanks NordVPN!
@@alike03 hahahahahha man! I almost died with this one!
I grew up in the Silicon Valley so it was common to have other kids’ parents work for tech companies. One of my friend’s dad worked for Intel and toured us both around the campus and into the labs where they worked on testing CPUs. My friend and I were working on a tech project involving an embedded Raspberry Pi and at the computer store he just bought me a Raspberry Pi to take home because he didn’t want me to feel left out. Point is- Intel employees are some of the nicest and most intelligent people in the whole Valley and their mismanagement by corporate money-grubbers is a damn shame.
Why i love intel
anecdotal evidence is not evidence
you fail at science
classic NA
@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash oh my god nigga shut up
Even if you hate Intel/AMD - Remember 1 thing - competition is ALWAYS good for both sides.
Which is why so many people hate Intel. They'll blatantly rip off customers when they get the chance. When a company gets a monopoly, you really get to see them for who they are.
Most for the customers though, price comptetion.
*INSERT CASH REGRISTER SOUND HERE*
@@Dexx1s everyone would do that :) even amd probably will
True. Last thing we need is a cpu monopoly
And here's 1 thing for you to remember,it was Intel who was fined 1.06 billion euro for anticompetitive practices.
ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_09_745
1:58 “A Gentleman who is Always inviting me to see the secret room at trade Shows" ohh linus
@@smayansatpute i7 8700k wins out slightly in terms of performance (somewhere around 5-10%)
ryzen 5 3600 new £165 (amazon)
ryzen 5 3600 used ~£150 (ebay)
i7 8700k new £405 (amazon)
i7 8700k used ~£300-£350 (ebay)
average 7.5% increase in performance for average 140% increase in price.... i'd say this is a win for amd!
Ooh Linus, ooooh Linus, OOOOOOOH Linus, you naughty boy...
Linus Sex Tips anyone?
@@theoncomingdork1 Just the tip
The same applies to all industries, the engineers are often very passionate and proud of their work but due to timing, cost, packaging restraints we often sacrifice/compromise the product.
This is true and really sucks. But this is literally the issue with almost all consumer products.
@TheGoat "Any idiot can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands."-Apparently. I appreciate this thought, sometimes I look at a small flaw in a product and wonder why it wasn't fixed, the reality is that testing for and fixing all those little flaws is what causes those premium products to be out of price range for most people.
@TerraTrax I believe the term you were looking for was "planned obsolesce".
the product is good though. At least 10th gen is. SO was 8th.
@TheGoat no there are still benefits to a 5-10 year old laptop, it just need to be made well enough, with components that help extend its life and one that can easily be fixable.
I have a dual core laptop running at 2ghz with 2gb ram (not the slowest of old laptops). But the integrated gpu was never capable of handling 720p video at 30fps, this has automatically trashed the laptop as even a media playback machine. The build quality is also bad, being made out of plastic it has degraded over time at least esthetic wise.
I am sure we can build computers today that would still be useful 20-30 years down the road.
I've never felt more appreciated by an LTT video as the Intel validation engineer who's made sure that your PCIE mixed with core traffic doesn't ever result in hangs, silent data corruption, or performance glass-jaws on servers.
So what havd you been thinking about AMD's recent strides? What direction do you think it's gonna take intel?
Yeah people just forget the reliability and compatibility of intel.
Linus "I'm worried about the people at Intel"
Me "wow, an emotional video!"
Linus "Right after this sponsor"
There are priorities!
@@michael04__806 he's gotta pay for the vid to get edited lol
Y'all are a bunch of fucking cry babies. It's a giant team behind this channel that needs to get paid. Plus, there's no difference whatsoever on the content whether a video is sponsored or not. You're not loosing anything, they purposely make ads in a multiple of 5 so we can easily skip them.
Imagine if the sponsor was amd
I checked the comments just to see someone mention this.
"Rather the people at Intel. And I need them to hear this... After this message from our sponsor, AMD"
Just imagine 😂.
That would be a ooft to intel
This comment gonna blow up
Chirantan Das yeah he gonna hit at least a couple thousand likes
Haha funny.
Make it happsn
"Look son! I'm worried about you,
I want you to listen this"
*After this message from our sponsor*
*Raid: Shadow Legends*
*seatgeek*
This is how you tell one of your children that you love the other more...
my parents tried this, it worked.
Shit....killed him
“I’m sorry Johnny, but you’re just too fat”
More like that they're adopted 😂😂
when you find out your mom's password was your sister's name and birthday
Let me tell you guys about an emotional story, after this sponsor...
LMAO
Linus has the utmost of legendary Segways
I paused the video to just look for this comment 😂
This video is brought you by the new intel i7-10700k
He sounds so sad during the sponsor 😂
Linus' Kid: I want cookies
Linus: You can have cookies after this segway to our sponsor
Kristian you offered cookies on behalf of linus YUP I WILL HAVE SOME COOKIES BUT NOT THE COMPUTER VARIETY THEY FOLLOW YOU EVERYWHERE :-P
segue
Just wait till they get older...
Linus: Hey did you take out the trash yet?
Linus' Kid: I will tell you that right after I tell you this message *from our sponsors*
@@oriolopocholo *Mall-Cops away in embarrassment*
*after this segment from our sponsor
I never thought I'd see someone get so emotional over a processor company. This is an epic monologue.
Epyc* monologue
You never thought you’d see someone get so emotional over a processor company? I suggest you go onto just about any computer forum and say “wow I love my Intel CPU” or even better “Nvidia makes the superior graphics card”. If you put your ear to the ground like Legolas in Lord of the Rings when he was listening for Orcs, you’ll be able to hear the thundering of a million strong keyboards being slammed on wildly as people begin to type up their “totally measured” response to your suggestion that AMD might not actually be the risen Christ.
I was on r/PCMR the other day and replied to a thread regarding GPUs that if you have an unlimited budget, you should buy a top end Nvidia. I got dog piled on. One guy said AMD makes better GPUs because they “care” about the consumer and that’s all that matters, as if caring about the consumer fixes their driver issues and somehow turbocharges their cards? It’s just so stupid.
You don't like shilling for free? Dude, get help.
Actually what he wants to say is that he is sad that Intel kind might be on artificial life support right now and AMD is taking the lead left and right. I agree that R&D is important and probably Intel has more money put into it but I can't believe that even with fewer resources you can't have good R&D. No matter how much money you put into it, at some point you won't get better results, unless you give it to aliens that are far more intelligent than humans. AMD is really pushing the envelope in thermal efficiency, 7nm processors, taking leads in production applications, and more importantly, keep the lead in price/perf. They must have done something right in R&D these years. I suspect they took some out of the GPU department to focus more on the CPU side of things. That's what Intel does. AMD took many chances in the past, still do, and in the ends it seems to pay off.
@@Yomom12388 nice LOTR analogy. You are totally right. The thing is, most people are not very rational when it comes to the choices they make. So when they have bought an expensive cpu or gpu (you barely hear this argument with a psu! For Example) they want to make damn sure they bought the right one. So while they scream at you (screaming always works great when you are pretty insecure), they also convince them self. Every time they argue, a little bit more.
I'm still rocking an Intel i5 2500k system. after 9 years. Reliable.
got a i7 940 since 2008, still works great
I still have a PC that has an i5 3570
Reliable doesn’t mean it isn’t a bottleneck.
@@zero-se7ug Works great but bottlenecks every modern video card.
yes sir, upgrading soon
That shot of "Young Linus" is either a deepfake or I've been following for longer than I thought.
Timestamp: 4:10
yeah dude we've been here for a long long time
10 years ain't shit
-me, 24
Linus: One of my other favorites is a gentleman who is always inviting me to see the secret room at tradeshows.
Sure, Linus. The "secret room."
I think as a TH-camr you often don't/wouldn't get access granted by big companies at tradeshows. So if they willingly let him see their "secret" room then that would probably be pretty cool of them.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ever went to a trade show and thought to yourself "Man this isn't that impressive at all, i knew about 90% of this stuff" well that's because the real business happens at the café next door, with a lot of vodka and maybe a couple of lines. The tradeshow itself is only useful for small, unknown companies to get their existence recognized. For the big ones it's a chance to flex and do business with companies they otherwise wouldn't.
That’s marketing.they let Linus see some secret stuff by intel -> so Linus appreciate that and continues to recommend intel. This is how it works
thats why is secret, because it is on shows
"We were so determined to hate on the fanboy that we became the same."
Faxx
Bet lets be real you AMD fans always were shit talkers just like Intel ones back 5 years ago when AMD was in big trouble. You never changed, you always were the same, you always will be the same until you start ignoring the hatred and open your eyes and realize that good competition will push both sides to improve their products so as a costumer no matter what you chose(to your need) you will always win
@@ampeg187 please show us on this Intel doll where AMD touched you inappropriately.
@@ampeg187 this is, my no no square
Make it more dramatic: *we have become*
AMD was in this situation for a decade though, we all laughed :'(
I feel sorry for all the amazing surfer engineer gamer geeks at AMD that got laid off because of Intel's illegal and anti-competitive actions from the top, which stole marketshare. Intel is a scuzzy company, even if the mid-range employees are great. But then, you can say that about tons of companies... Exxon, Philip Morris, Monsanto, Vale, Dow Chemical. Nothing wrong at any of these companies other than some "human mistakes"... you would love almost every employee that works there. Great people all around.
People have short term memory. They are all worshipping AMD now. No tech youtubers touched AMD unless you broke one of their arms 3 years ago..
@@BrawndoQC so what??? It is called not being stupid...you choose what's objectively better at the moment...period... if you don't do it you are simply a jerk.
@@Cosmopavone It's called being stupid when you're wishing bad to Intel while the best scenario is having nice competition both. You're ignorant if you do that.. I've seen countless Intel dead etc.. blabla
@@BrawndoQC you talked about " touching AMD unless you broke one of their arms 3 years ago" that's not whishing bad...that's making a choice buying what was better
His beard is getting longer than the average lifespan of my GPU
Looks good though
Looks like he trimmed it.
Bake a gpu
wtf does this even mean
Are you the internet coz i see you everywhere and anywhere
Woah! That quarantine beard is coming together. You're starting to look *"Canadian"*
But ur not
Atleast he now looks like hes getting enough sleep and starting to handle the kids haha
As a canadian I agree
@@annonimity276 The eh thing is a stereotype, I say it once in awhile. But I hardly hear anyone else saying it.
Coming from an Intel (and formerly Qualcomm and AMD) engineer, thanks for making this
@MantisSZNYA2 same
@MantisSZNYA2 they're scared of talking sht to a real Intel Engineer lol. 🤣😂
Intel walks by...
Linus: tough times huh? I know...
AMD walks by:
Linus: EEEEEEEYYYYY!
Lol
nice
Yes
Ryzen n' shine
the fact is... we no longer care what brand do out chip... it like sneck...
"He's got like an awesome beard, and he's jacked and he's like carrying a surfboard..."
And on his muscular arm is a blushing Linus.
Well spoiler alert he is sponsored by a beard grooming company that's why he is growing it out😂😂😂😂
He also eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes.
I don't miss his chin. I mean power to him, but the beard looks good. At least now they won't card him at the bar.
Let Intel struggle for a while, AMD did it for so long and survived. And came back in the market with amazing chips.
Right, I have no doubt Intel will come back with a roar.
AMD didn't resort to scummy behavior while they were behind though. Intel might not come back as strong if they do.
Intel can go down, they deserve it. Anti competitive, anti-consumer, anti-technology. Never forget. This video is garbage IMO.
@@eazen we've already seen AMD start using anticomptetitive practices by initially withdrawing Zen 3 support on b450/x470 motherboards.
Both AMD and Intel are companies. And without competition, companies will ALWAYS get lazy and do exactly what Intel has been doing pre-Zen. So stop being a fucking fan boy and appreciate the fact that without Intel, your beloved AMD will be exactly like the monopoly that you hate so much.
@@cloodberst Finally, someone that also sees through all the bullshit. I reckon AMD will start showing their true colors pretty soon if Intel doesn't step up their game.
Any time Linus says "just like" I end up bracing myself for a segue.
also "speaking of"
that's how it's written? I'm not a native speaker, I've always thought it's "segway" for some reason
@@bestbattle yeah Segway is a different thing, I didn't know until recently either and I'm a native so no big deal haha
@@bestbattle segway is also a word but it means something completely else
@MoonPadUSer segway is a type of electric scooter
Video : Tells why he still loves intel
Pinned comment : Gives links of AMD Ryzen CPUs
@Reflektionz 007 at 1080p. However, at 1440p amd is better.
@@alx6985 amd fanboy , I don't want to say you are stupid , but I think you are , cpu don't count for resolution, gpu does
@@PeaceGuy802 i feel bad for the guy now knowing he wont reply
@@PeaceGuy802 I meant in like price for performance, dumbass
EDIT: And btw, I am not an amd fanboy, I respect both amd and intel. Gpu does matter the most, I didnt say that it didnt, I just said that the advantage intel has over amd is negligible (at 1440p)
@@alx6985 thats basically the same as saying the advantage a 400$ Ryzen 9 has over a 150$ i5 is negligible when ur playing on say 4K with maxed gpu usage but ok
AMD: announces that B450 will support ZEN3
Linus: why I love Intel.
Good timing :P very valid video though, love you Linus :*
It's a very leftest type of response. In opposite world nothing makes sense.
That move was probably purely in response to the outrage from only supporting zen 3 on 5 series boards. Only to hold onto customers not out of their hearts. And I use amd I'm not just being a fanboy.
people who move to intel because of this are dumb. you're going to pay more for a new intel motherboard then too and you'll get a cpu with less price to performance. and when intel releases a new cpu line that needs a new socket or chipset will they flip their shit at that?
Hear me out...
I don't blame AMD for only having 500 series mobos to support Zen 3. By making 400 series compatible with Zen 3, the 500 series mobos are now useless. At the moment, PCIe Gen 4.0 isn't that useful.
Whoa, so I can purchase a 4700x and drop it in my mobo now? SWEET!!! Let's just hope MSI creates a bios for my mobo.
Linus in year 2070: I will die in one month, but you will hear more about it after this message from our sponsor
probably have a permanent spot in heaven or hell as the techsupport for god in the modern interwebs
Linus: "an Enthusiast like you"
me: confused silence
I think you can handle both Intel amd AMD. forsenCD ✌️
I don't think I qualify as an enthusiast either
double team the companies forsenCD
Somewhat I agree with him, Amd has done a lot but they didn't get my full trust to build a 6k machine. I bought an x570 creator, a 3800x and just 2x16gb 3200 cas16 ram but my idea was to build an 3950x itx with full bells and whistles. It is incredible that 100 eu for a 10gbe module and 30 eu plx chip lacking (for a 2nd m2) on an itx mobo stopped me to spend extra 5k
I have the soul of enthusiasts, not the money
I don't know why I expected Linus's voice to get deeper with a beard.
Give up, it is never gonna happen. I might actually gets even higher haha
Isn't it cool though..!
He looks more intimidating and less nerdy
bcs it looks more masculine. Tbh, his testosterone should rise since he has a beard but that wouldn't be enough to deepen his voice xd
@@Sentinel3100 Doesn't work like that, mate. Testosterone>Beard not Beard>testosterone.
More testosterone actually would make his voice deeper too.
Ha, Intel nerds get rekt...
*Looks nervously at i7 sticker
Nocturnal Nights same bro same (i5 tho) we’re getting outperformed by a fucking Ryzen 3
@@wilt3051 🤣
The only reason why I have an i7 is because I got a good deal on a used PC but I feel it
I recently managed to get a i5 8400 and a Z370 Aorus ultra Wifi for under 100€, even if A Ryzen 5 2600 is faster, that price was too good to Pass.
intel broke inside...by everyone right now
I need more of these Linus rant videos
*@Austin Evans*
Ah yes, the king of the XBOX master race. :^)
What's up.
Buenardo has appeared .
Austin Evans stfu
Haaaeeeaeyy guys this is child's voice
...
After he said "After a message from our sponsor" I was about to laugh so hard if he said intel. 0:36
XD
XD
:v
@@Wahid_on_youtobe r/youbrokethechain
XD
What a great video with an amazing message.. hope it gets to the right ears, I've supported Intel for many many years but the balance is shifting slightly towards AMD over the last 2 years
I'm in the same boat, I've always supported intel
Linus has balls for doing his sponsor after that intro.
ikr XD
no he dont they were cut off
Aww man I was waiting for Linus to Say: "Right after this Sponsor........ AMD, The AMD Ryzen line up of cpu's............."
I would be lying if I said I was not expecting it or wanting it so bad.
lmao thats so evil
I Really wanted " Right after our sponsor AMD Ryzen"
Have to admit, that would make me laugh. You earned a thumbs up lol
i'd have spit my taco john's all over my screen
I thought he was going to say, "Right after our sponsor...Intel"
I dare Linus to do something similar. Talk about a product with its competitor as the sponsor.
Translation: "Intel needs to fire some of the executives/CEO." ?
Yes. They need a major restructuring. And they took some steps in that direction, but I personally think they can do better. Please remember that AMD started killing it in the CPU space with Ryzen, only after they went through a major company restructuring and poured all their resources into R&D. I truly believe, if the right kind of people are in leadership of any company, great things can happen.
@Me Sus seriously but that won't change anything till 12th gen as 11th gen is already out and 10gen processors will be cheaper and waaay better than 11th gen ones, just have to wait for 12 gen
I was ready to joke "intel shill" starting this video but this was actually heartfelt and very informative.
I am once again reminded why I love this channel.
I searched on the page for the word "shill" to have a laugh. It was more wholesome than I expected. Cheers, mate!
@Austin H I mean that I came here looking for, quote, "People dunking on Intel". This was the only reply that matched my search. Not finding any comedic/sarcastic/ironic or straight out toxic replies in an anonymous online community is usually wholesome in our age.
@@Doomkaliber Cheers, mate!
Really appreciate how you use your platform to advocate for us! You have a huge voice and large companies listen to you. They don't listen to us. Thanks man!
We're the money, and money talks
Money talks bullshit walks.
@@Faux_Fox your right we do have control. Issue is people don't use their power that we all have as consumers.
I like competition, it's healthy. 4 years ago I wouldn't even consider an AMD processor, but seeing how good and cheap they are now, compared to Intel's lack of innovation, I see this as a big win for us users. Screw the companies, users matter the most. I don't care if it's AMD or Intel who innovate, I just want it, period. So stop crying for Intel and praising AMD, instead look at what we got out of this "war", very good products from AMD, and Intel finally starting to move it's legs a bit. We are the winners of this war, not the companies.
Fax
Can't disagree
It's simple economics, more competition equals better and lower cost products.
Cool. #fuckenvy
100% facts. Competition is beneficial for consumers who want more bang for your buck.
I don't recall a similar video when Intel is on top... Give an AMD engineer some love too!
because AMD was complete garbage when Intel was on top. At least Intel is comparable, back then AMD was even more uncompetitive than Intel
@@pravda9646 Intel was using scummy tactics to keep AMD on the bottom of the food-chain. They have been fined too but since they made so much money it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure if AMD had the chance, as in it had the same amount of market-share, it would do the same thing, so the best thing in my opinion is to not suck the wet testicles of a company, like Intel, or AMD, rather the price they offer. They shoot lick the bottom of the boots of the customers.
@@pravda9646 The complacency is real, but, we did work our ass off too. I honestly think it's not really fair to judge our work as inferior when it is really the company's business practices that is "garbage"
@@Rc16119 They were, yes. AMD was also using scummy practices to overinflate their numbers as well.
@@pravda9646 I don't doubt it.
"Don't put anything here. Leave it empty."
LTT editors are my favorite people.
Lol, time stamp? I didn't find it
@@Huaie 0:56
@@Huaie At the end of the intro 0:56
@@Huaie 0:56
Oh in the intro of course -_-
Thanks guys.
As an Intel MT here, it warms my heart that some of my work here is being recognized in spite of the fierce competition going on in the silicon space right now. Thank you Linus!
Twiggy732 Larry me :*
What is MT?
@@andresizarra2312 MT ?
Really great video, opened my eyes a little bit. Sometimes people forget that there are hard working people behind every company. Appreciate your work ! :)
Are you muscular, surfing boarding engineer man?
AMD: Is this your home?
Intel: It was... and it was beautiful.
When Linus talked about that hardcore overclock enthusiast with a beard, I thought he was referring to himself
"Hey! i poured my soul into it!"
* ex-engineers crying in netburst *
*ex-engineers crying hot tears in Prescott*
*I T A N I U M*
I lol'd. Also the itanic. Which had a lot of great ideas. Truly. But the "but..." is a large and unwieldy but.
Don't forget Larrabee..... Such a great idea, not yet born, aborted....
Intel: Blue front, green back
The man who inspired me to get into computers passed away a couple years ago. He was a low level coding computer programming genius. He could effortlessly mess around in assembly, hex, c++ to do some amazing stuff.
His last job for well over a decade was being a Sr. Security Consultant at Intel. He loved everything about his job it seems. He was working from his hospital bed consistently, from what I told.
rip sorry for your loss
My condolences to you and his family
F
RIP
RIP
Linus: i love those 3 guys from Intel
Intel: 110k employees
Three guys? No?
IKR... What's stopping some of the thousands of Blue Badges from moving to work for the competition?
TheShreester really good benefits
@@GonzoTehGreat people dont just swap their multibillion company around, most of them will work for their company untill they die. Same goes for every kinda company, not only AMD/intel. Take a look at BMW/Kia. Once some BMW designers went to Kia, the whole automotive world went crazy about this. About a a few engineers, within some of the richest companies worldwide. Shows how stuck you get
4:29 "They will come roaring back. I've seen this movie a couple of times now."
*Alder Lake has entered the chat*
1:37 You could try calling them ‘Intel’-ects...
The fact they didn't come up with that themselves belies that point.
Me: "Hahaha, Linus can't grow facial hair"
** Fast Forward Four Months **
Me: "HOW DOES HE FILL IN LIKE THAT?! UGH"
I hope he shaves it off and we see different videos uploaded with Linus shaved vs unshaved.
@Omer Ahmed Honestly, losing the hair gel and growing a beard did wonders for his gravitas.
@@YouAreBreathing i recently rewatch his old video and I like him better with beard
still looks like an incel
An incel with a wife?
You're about to piss off the entire AMD fanbase with that title...(haven't watched the video yet)
Edit: I just watched the video, and Linus makes some very good points here. Intel isn't one entity, and the people in the company still deserve respect for the pioneering done in other(non-CPU areas) such as storage with Optane, high end NICs and WiFi solutions, and even an attempt at a graphics division.
Wow gg your comment was first
I still love intel
I am a intel person
People need to stop arguing about “which is better” and just leave each other be to be honest
@@kertig Fax
New intro looks amazing. Good job guys in the background at LTT!
10:15 "Prepare for unforeseen consequences"
Linus is G-Man, Half Life 3 confirmed
half life-linus
@@counterscam6547 and gameplay will be droping stuff on combines?
Counter scam half-linus 3
Half Life 3 is literally confirmed since Alyx..
the HL3 jokes don't really work anymore
We all know Linus is getting ready to drop a nuclear bomb on the new 10th Gen Intel CPUs after this video, thats why hes make this lol
If you take this video and replace Intel with any company it’ll make sense. Like no shot Linus why wouldn’t you want good engineering to go away? Such a stupid video. Almost as bad as the previous one.
@@curt8806 Nice troll, dude.
@@duckzt and power consumption due to 14nm and temperatures, so..not much overclocking
It's a cleverly disguised hit piece. Linus under the pretence of loving Intel creates a video to low-key hit Intel by asserting unjustified scaremongering regarding reliability. The whole motherboard power thing is a complete non-issue given the overengineered VRMs of todays' motherboards especially Z490 ones. As for the “unknown” I haven’t seen Linus making any videos pertaining to the unknown possible reliability issues regarding AMD cpus that run with voltages north of 1.4V even at stock and are at much MUCH greater risk of failing due to electromigration than Intel processors will ever be due to thermals. And speaking of reliability and thermals … he dumps on Intel about using thermal paste - thermal paste is far more reliable than solder which is likely to crack due to crack propagation induced from fatigue induced by thermal cycling. AMD 'forcing' Intel to use solder again was actually a backward move reliability-wise but hey I trust far more Intel's soldering than AMD's given that it is Intel that invented and patented the current state of the art cpu soldering technique.
And thermals by the way on Intel cpus are exaggerated anyway as these supposedly high temps that everyone focuses on only pertain to unrealistic stress testing (prime 95 small ffts AVX on, AIDA 64 FPU AVX on). Also most reviews report power from the wall mind you - not the cpu-only power consumption. In the real world, even if a real-world workload would put a big load on the cpu, it would not be anywhere near the prime 95 small FFT AVX and most importantly it would not do so for extended periods of time to impact reliability in any way anyway. It is not as anybody will be running this CPU (10900K) 24/7x365x5years at 80C doing heavy Blender AVX rendering. And we are just talking about the 10900K - not all the other skus lower in the stack that consume less power. Also, as a matter of fact, Intel’s cpus manufactured on that “geriatric 14nm process” as Linus call it, are more power efficient than AMD’s cpus on TSMC’s 7nm when it comes to higher clocks, when it comes to idle power and when it comes to light-threaded workloads. But hey let's focus on prime 95 small ffts and aida 64 fpu avx after 1 hour of run...because you know that's apparently very indicative of normal usage...Sigh, the stupidity in this world... I hope there was a pandemic targeting and wiping out the morons.
Alex Marin Wow man all that rant for nothing. I’m sorry sir but you couldn’t be more wrong.
Great video Linus. I worked at Intel when Andy Grove was CEO and one thing he drummed in to everyone was to be paranoid about the competition (in a good way). Never under estimate your “enemy” and that together, Intel employees can achieve anything. If this ethos is still there at Intel then have no fear - they will return and it would not surprise me if AMD get their butts kicked. It is not good at the moment for Intel but like the Catholic Church it deals in the long game. When I was there, I remember one BUM (Business Update Meeting) where Andy Grove spoke about how Intel had the opportunity to buy AMD. Andy said the Board had decided against it as they felt AMD would never be more than a thorn in their side but more importantly competition is good for Intel...
Also, Monopoly lawsuit
That is a very unfortunate acronym
MrWerv Intel and the PC market were very different back then. It was around the time Intel went single source on the 386 - that caused some stink too.
Tanishq Sagar I know, don’t suppose it would be allowed today. 😉
Thanks for your great work too !
This is an excellent video. Everything you've observed with AMD, has been what I've seen as well. Whats interesting is, the lack of comprehensive engineering has been true since the early 2000s. At that time, even though the Athlon 64 was far and away a better processor - Intel generally had fewer issues which made support easier. It looks like there repeating that same pattern.
Next week: Intel's sponsorship is back!
Look at the description, paid link to intel cpus on amazon .....!
@@Doudoudelamotte1902 That is a paid sponsorship from Amazon.. Not by the company (Intel) directly itself.. Alas you still don't know about this!
Sp3r2 Socket my bad !
"Guy always wants to show me the secret room at a trade show"
That guy's name? Steve Burke.
No homo
Guy: Wanna see my secret room? 😏
Me: 😓
...it's in his pants.
Love that guy. Shares because he's exited to show you cool stuff. Thats what tech enthusiasts are all about.
This episode of Linus Tech Tips is a humble advice from Linus to intel regarding their ongoing behaviour and how intel could damage its reputation of being a reliable and polished product designer and manufacturer, he further solidifies his concerns by referencing to the past where intel did a mistake of haphazardly responding to rising competition from AMD and is worried the intel could repeat the same mistake with the 10th gen, which hints his request bias to the business and management side of intel. He humbly advises intel to take a deep breath and focus on taking the time and money to develop newer better products to go against AMD rather than just running through the fire on a path to sustained upper hand in market share.
Thank you this has been the Leader.
Cheers!
nice
Nice for this
Did you just write a thesis on this video?
@Hy Braverman Didn't Cyrix get merged into AMD?
Yes, we have watched the video too.
I have more than 17 years of experience as a computer technician. And the only Chipset I saw blow up was from an Intel Motherboard with Socket 775, I don't remember the model at the moment. But beyond that I still think that Intel is more of a company than AMD. And I always decide, when it comes to buying, not for the propaganda but for what the product offers me for the money I pay. I have had more than 50 configurations on my personal PC and I think that AMD and Intel are 50% and 50% of them. Why? Because I am not a "Fan Boy" but I am looking for the best product and often the best service. One thing AMD has to envy Intel is the warranty it offers. Speed, seriousness and efficiency in RMA replacements is EXCEPTIONAL from Intel. And I did not see that in another brand. (I clarify that I was in Argentina and through UPS in 1 or 2 weeks I had the replacement at my address). @Linus I understand your video and I identify with this way of thinking. Cheers
Linus:I need to tell you intel employees something
Intel employees: *getting hyped*
Also Linus: AfTeR a QuIcK wOrD fRoM oUr SpOnSoR
*presses arrow keys*
"Don't put anything here. Leave it empty." That sounds like malicious compliance.
And I saw it on another video of them, too.
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@@georgf9279 I noticed that in the title card.
Got a timestamp?
@@jabreakit2311 0:57
We need the competition from intel so we are the one winning here
Even if there not doing good
Don’t worry about that...they are still hold quite a lot of marketshare. For now we need to raise amd so that intel have to fear and do the right thing
@@NamelessPassenger AMD was actually limited by supply. It's good thing that a lot of people still fanboy with intel. If most people were buying AMD, the demand will strip supply and we can see price hike, rendering AMD core advantages gone
Even reasoning for the good of customers, you will still be getting hate from them because you said something against their beloved processor... I dont whant to live in this world with society of dumbasses
Even though AMD is just better right now people Still buy Intel because many casual consumers dont know that i7 isnt the Best CPU right now anymore
So while there is no performance competition, on the market there is kinda reasonable competition
@@cyjan3k823 I had a friend whose dad insisted on him buying intel i5-9600KF when he could've just saved a lot more with a 3500X
I've been using Intel processor(I5-6600K) to produce productivity(Main in GIS and RS etc) far before the AMD ZEN was announced.
Last month I switched to 3500X into my regular works, and it wasn't pleasure, I first had to change my memories because their frequency doesn't match, causing sudden reboot\froze. And I also got caught by too many issues using my software, no big deal, but annoying.
Left alone the slight performance lag compare to AMD‘s, the Intel processor has performed astonishing stability&compatibility during my days. I can even drunk out of consciousness and work on it and woke up second day found out my games and tools still running fine.
So my point is Intel is not that suck for you guys to exaggerate. I'm going to exchange this 3500X for I5 10500, and finally leave all those AMD issues behind.
High score DOESN'T mean everything. I will still put my bet on Intel!
This has also been my experience.
I’m really digging the beard. You’re really starting to look Canadian
Nah,he's becoming a scotsman.
i am just waiting for a manscaped powred live stream with his beard being trimmed
You cant look Canadian
He's starting to look more like a lumberjack, which I guess also counts as Canadian.
What means "digging"? I am learn english because of Quarantine
Linus: I hope Intel is listening
Intel: ....
AMD: Gotcha bro
no?
Lmao
God you fucking people are so fucking annoying. AMD isn’t your fucking friend even if they do like to try to seem cool by fraudulently telling people fake stuff about chipset compatibilitys.
not really tbh
@@Yomom12388 butthurt much?
AMD’s engineers deserved this video more than Intel’s. They worked under smaller budgets with smaller teams and still created an amazing product. All that money for R&D Intel has and what do they have to show for it? Nickel and dime-ing adds up Linus. Yea things might just “work” with Intel’s products but give the same amount of money to AMD’s devs and engineers and I bet their products will also have fewer issues after rollout. You can’t test for unique scenarios when there’s no budget to account for it.
Intel doesn't deserve a video like this any more than anyone else.
I'm wondering, by this logic, why linus made this video. Maybe he just wants competition between amd and intel which wouldn't be too bad.
Intel deserves this video more than anyone. Check out adoredtv inside intel video
@@shadowblack5455 now I'm curious, would you mind giving me a short TL;DR?
@@PlanetXtreme Launch is tomorrow .
Linus has the scoop, CPU's are pbl a HUGE disappointment, to me this looks like a preemptive "sorry, but not gonna lie for you guys, this is crap..."
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OpLapDancePikachu69 Totally agree with you. Was about to post the same before i saw your comment. I get where Linus is coming from, i really do, but for me personally this video just felt weird, cringy and left a bad taste in my mouth...
In my opinion Intel makes the most stable and hassle free processor. I have an I7-6700K for my home pc, with a 1080TI and I couldn't be happier and it's 4 years old. Runs every thing at max 100+ FPS 2K. Rarely ever crashes, and who knows maybe AMD fixed that but in my past experience their processors don't run as smooth in windows, causing everything to crash more.
You know Intel really fucked up when Linus makes emotional video promoting Intel
After all, this video changed nothing apparently
not really promoting as much as calling out the gullible fanboys
So, a lot changing on the TH-cam tech community lately: new LTT intro, Linus growing a beard, Austin not saying "hey guys, this is Austin! " anymore, what's next, Steve from GamersNexus getting his head shaved on livestream?
so that he looks like a dwarf in a tech forge?
A phone not scratching at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7 on JerryRigEverything
Man I love competition! I want Intel and AMD to be trading blows for years to come so we get the very best tech at better prices for everyone.
Capitalism at its finest.
Nah you want AmD to pull ahead so that they can level the playing field and than have them trading blows and idealy have 3rd or 4th competitors join in like ARM, or Risk V
Do you know what competition does today? When they get to the point where they are not able to improve the product but there is a push on them to innovate will cause stupid moves, especially drastic moves that makes them look like they did something special, because the other didn't. This is why we are not having headphone jacks. Or ethernet ports on laptops. I don't want to see that future where processor manufacturers are removing essential features just to show how they are up to date.
It is not healthy either to let them be lazy, but it isn't either to push them do their job. Worst things happen both way.
@@dongurudebro4579 agree. After all the bull that Intel did with hugely monopolizing the market in the 90s and early 2000s by paying companies to not sell AMD or build interior pcs at the same price, Intel needs to get leveled for a good while. We need general consumers, not tech enthusiasts, find AMD to have the same brand power and vendors to also make good systems for the money without dumb disadvantages like color or bad cooling that Intel has paid vendors to do to reduce competition
@@hubertnnn kinda off, im sure intel and amd will pull the government copyright cards on each other and stagnate again.
srry kiddo but true "capitalism" only exist without goverment
Dude Linus, thanks. I actually became somewhat of a fanboy for blue when your videos started to show up back then. I've been engineering the $h17 out a few years now and always feel enthusiastic and open to hearing you and all of youtube take a view on what's out. Thanks AMD for catching up and letting us put all the calories into the right minds again!
linus proposing to his gf:
u know.. ive an important question for you
*after this message of our sponsor*
after our message from our sponser- intel .
I wonder what his wife would think of that...
Lmao 🤣
I highly doubt his wife would approve of that.
That was a nightmare to read
full disclosure: I just bought an amd high-end processor. Idk, if it's since you did that "i'm retiring" stream, and idk if its just me, but i just love the amount of nuance you've been showing in videos lately. i don't mean necessarily specs wise, but on a human level. the first 30 ish seconds of this video summed it up for me. yes there are so many big companies, and yes the companies at time suck. but they are all made up of amazing people, that do amazing things. I've worked as a rep for a big company before, with at the time an inferior product value wise, but I did what i could to help people find the right product, regardless of brand and knew that the product i was supposed to sell wasn't for everyone. i relate to that story of the guy who showed you the exciting new tech just for shits and giggles. thank you from another BC guy for being rational, and fucking real.
sO AuThEnTic...
@@beliveinurself Aren't you damn cool
Completely agree! I very much appreciate how nuanced this video was.
@@ikbintom I think he was payed a lot of money by Intel over the time. It is quite easy to see why he "loves" Intel, if you're not naive. Maybe even this whole video is payed by Intel, i mean, indirectly it is anyway.
AMD has always been there for me when I was a poor budget gamer who had no money. Gotta rep team red.
They grow up so fast
Team red, we have to keep them in check though so they don’t turn into intel
Precisely.
I've never commented on any Linus video, I've always watched anonymously (logged-out), but HAD to dislike.
I never saw Linus saying "don't give up on AMD" when the were about to die only a few years ago?!
AMD *finally* has a competing product (after what seems forever) and money only starting to come in for the past 2 years, and LTT is already sucking up with Intel - a goliath and an evil company which has done quite a lot of anti-competitive damage, not to mention their alliance with an apartheid state that interferes in western democracies.
Harsh yes, but disgusting behaviour from Linus!
Nobody asked buddy. No need to explain...
David Anderson I used to like lie - nus. Then I realized he was an Intel fanboi
This intel vs AMD reminds me of the console wars
Probably because both issues have raving fanboys.
This also reminds me of
iOS vs Android
Windows vs macOS
Windows vs Linux (which is still on going rn but is also dying bc people seem to care about Intel vs AMD war now)
@@whee6506 windows vs mac isn't even up for discussion.
@PauricFox its already dead since 2018 when Windows vs Linux became the new Computer OS wars
@@whee6506 thats true.
Linus: after this message from our sponsor
Me: double tab
Same
💀💀 same
I wasn't expecting his smooth transition to the end sponsor.
Can I just say thank you for getting me so into tech. I built my PC because of you.
Same
Same xD
Same! He even influenced me to study with technology! Thus I was in and completed my master major in EE..
@@aluandcache7336 is that Sex Education or structural engineering? 🤷🏿♂️
@@ApacheSenzala It should be ee. I missed typed
I have an i7 10750H, and I can confirm it runs hot. When my battery setting is on best performance, it runs at a steady 4.8 GHz. I love the CPU but I have to be careful when playing games, because it doesn't take long to reach 100 C and start throttling
"When my battery setting is on best performance" is it a laptop?
Whats your laptop? My laptop is Acer Predator Helios 300 also i7 10750H
@@whee6506 HP Omen
@Harley Speedthrust didnt you know the Omen 15 had an AMD version? You couldve gone for that or same as mine a lot of people say the Helios 300 has good thermals bc of its somewhat rare cooling solution where there are vents on both sides where cool air can get in and the vents at the back are for the heat the 2020 model also introduced 20 vents on the top for either extra heat vents or cooling vents not entirely sure but the Omen 15 is still a great laptop you shouldve gone for the AMD version bc its cheaper and runs cooler i think
But one the downsides of the Helios 300 compared to the Omen 15 is the battery the battery sucks on the Helios 300 you cant have about more than 1 hour off charge
I appreciate some of the stuff they have contributed to Blender like their awesome open denoiser.
Nvidia also has one I believe so dnoiser
AI dnoiser
@@wowepic2256 yes, nvidia has the optix. But iirc optix is only available on RTX GPUs, while the intel denoiser is not limited i think
Clear Linux also contains some amazing pieces of code
"Why I still love Intel" sounds like something a domestic abuse victim would say to rationalize staying in the relationship.
🤣 Those relationships are full of raw emotions! Let Linus reminisce about the good times while Intel is still sober. Because Friday is coming and I'm pretty sure Intel plans on coming back to him drunk and swinging.
Still better love story than Twilight
Facts
😂😂😂
@@obidean3964 is true
Not gonna lie. Had me in the first half. Good video though. I think too often we forget that companies aren't just PR firms. It's a collection of passionate people too. I hope Intel fights back because when Intel and AMD compete we the consumer win.
agree, as AMD Fanboy (I heard blue pitchfork coming for me), I love Intel give a true fight! I kinda love when intel on 4XXX to 6XXX, which very-very good performance and until today we see still many user use CPU form that generation, even for me that time, reconsider to didn't wait ZEN and just go build i7 6XXX cpu that time. I mean, Linus right there point it out, AMD is have people there, but LESS than intel had... and AMD must fight not only 1 company, but 2, which is NVIDIA as well... with less resource that each competitor had...
I really wish Intel give good fight back, because the right fight will push AMD more, and we as customer benefit from it, which we will get better technology, performance, and design. We like price war, but those 3 point also important as well.
They've been lazy since forever. With these "generational" upgrades. All 14nm and it's quite obvious Intel were just chilling with no competition. AMD Ryzen comes out of nowhere and takes the crown. I hope that we start seeing loads of mainstream consumer laptops use AMD Ryzen instead of Intel with the windows 10 fully optimized.
@@HM-wn2in I'm still rocking my 4790k, and I'm looking to upgrade. So I'm happy for the competition.
Yes i thought that was well put in the video as well :-)
“So lit mobile just sent me this portable charger”
“I’m exited”
*battery pack*
After this message from our sponsor:
Sponsor: AMD!!
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Underrated comment X'D
Stolen comment XD
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@I have Toilet Paper and that means I'm rich. Everyone cares
Me: (Just came back home from a long day at work
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my dog: 5:27
lmao
SHIT ON THE FLOOR!
I actually fucking laughed. Bless you.
this is such an underrated comment
0:21 "you guys should buy the product not the cool brand"
Apple users: I don't think I will
Underrated
yeah better buy the more expensive surface book
@@Battlecry45 Because the only two laptops on the market are surface books and macs
@@Dezekiel_Ferguson You see if you want a few things like. Good screen, good trackpad, good keyboard, no case flex, good battery life and consider them essential for a laptop. There are very few options and the windows options aren't a lot cheaper.
@@Battlecry45 Dell XPS series is pretty solid in all of that
I've owned a lot of AMD and Intel products over the years and Intel have always been leaps ahead in reliability and stability; even when they haven't always had the headline speeds. Its not as exciting, but it matters to me more than anything else. I need my workstation to just work, I don't have time for issues. I barely notice a 5% performance swing, but one BSOD and suddenly I have to start worrying about my data and fail over, not to mention lost time.
So I definitely second Linus here, don't change Intel keep your core identity. Everyone focuses on Benchmarks, but qualitative factors get ignored and once you settle into using your hardware they are ultimately much more important.
Was a fair comment now that motherboard makers etc are making good products for the superior cpus AMD is the way to go, I hate having to redo videos because of failures or too may dropped frames and just plain waiting, since I have changed to Ryzen I have had almost no issues with any projects and reliability is brilliant. I have had 2 i7 cpus die on me both were just out of warranty also lost an i5 so reliability is still hit and miss.
@@Sabumnim666 Everyone's experience is different. I am a computer programmer and as a contractor I have worked in lots of companies with 1000s of other developers and in general the consensus is that AMD chips have never been reliable enough. It may be something particular to our work load, it maybe just the excess use (we are working constantly 60 hours a week on average). It maybe that niggles that would be ignored in other workflows are more heinous during compilation. Reliability is king for us and intel has always won hands down. It would be great if AMD caught up in this regard as well but it will take time to get a feel for this.
Performance I can measure and compare. Anything I cant measure I treat like marketing, for all I know it might be just another "blast processing". And lets be honest, you are not going to use your cpu THAT long, if it wont die, the motherboard will and you'll find that all new ones have different sockets. Eventually you will want to upgrade anyway.
@@Sitheral I bought this 4820k in may 2014 and both it and the motherboard have worked without fault since then. It is being used 80 hours a week and it is the source of my livelihood so reliability is very important to me. Good resilient hardware lasts. That thing you can't quantify and therefore choose to ignore for some of us is the most important factor. While you can't measure it on a single instance of hardware if you work in the industry you'll be exposed to 100s of pcs and servers every year and you really can start to build an idea of what is resilient and what is not. Quality matters, the fact you can't run a program to prove it is irrelevant. Cinebench R20 is an absolutely pointless benchmark for 95% of users because they won't be using software that is multicore. So I'd argue it's speed that is irrelevant and is marketing hype, not quality. AMD are winning ATM but it's pretty synthetic in reality, single core speed is still more important to most peoples use cases.
@@codemonkeyalpha9057 I
Look, I bought Intel cpu as well, 4th gen and it still works with the motherboard, but I can say the same about my laptop with AMD CPU which is actually way older, so why would I believe in some mythical Intel quality?
We Would Still Probably Be Using 4 Core 600$ CPUs If it we’re not for AMD - But I agree, Intel is not perfect but it’s not always the best choice either.
Your videos are rly good bro - you sound 10 years old tho, probably cause you are
were*
well, that's how a monopoly works, if you don't have competition, you don't have to innovate.
Just keep in mind that AMD isn't an inherently good company, they just need to build market share so they *literally* can't afford to get bad press
Amd would most likely do the same if they could. Actually we're likely to see somewhat steeper prices for next gen AMD stuff if intel can't keep up. Because why sell for cheap if you can charge more and still sell almost as much?
@@manueldiedrich6139 Reputation
4:09 Young Linus? You mean, beardless Linus.
Should I grow a beard? I think it will look dirty somehow.
@@frostsmaker8966 You can ask Linus for advice in that case.
Boneless linus
DerpFarce Bonelinus
@@SagaciousEagle I agree 👍
Linus: i still love you Intel
AMD: say sike right now
Finally they're coming back on action now..❤️
Thank you for using the proper "they're," instead of "their."
I sense a negative review on the horizon...
If it's anything like the pre-Threadripper launch....oh boy, ready the popcorn! :D
They upcharged us for years. Thanks to AMD you can find a good cpu, even an intel one, for cheap. We'd still be in the stone age if it weren't for them.
But we were in it because of them.......
@Jai Rey ?
thanks to AMD I was able to get Pentium G4560 for $60 xD
@Jai Rey "stone age" would be 14-nm 4-core non hyper threaded, with the hyper threaded option being an enthusiast feature that costs way too much, locked clock speeds for non-enthusiasts chips also, possibly gated by chipset requirements to appease mobo manufacturers, "unlocked" clocks being a premium feature, possibly the same thing with boost speeds, a feature I can see further gated by TDP limitations, which also gets into warranty territory. Also compatibility with PCIE-lanes. Graphics on-board? well, certainly not gaming quality in any way, at best you get 2D desktop maybe perhaps (sad that I have to say that about Intel, but without an AMD competitor would they really have been driving small form factor, graphics and mobile so hard??)
So yes, the stone ages.
AMD was shit for over a decade, thanks to intel that AMD FINALLY catched up.. People have short memory.
*AMD trying its best to impress Linus*
Linus: I still love Intel...
I know that pain, AMD. No matter how much you try, she just won't love us back...
Iván Rivera It Is all about money right? xD
Shes not worth your time king🙌🙌🙏
I love both companies, and I miss Texas Instruments, IBM, Motorola and MOS, etc. These guys made our lives so much different and have innovated and continue to innovate in miraculous ways. Sure they have their faults, but they're not sports teams. You neither need to, nor should you be picking a "side".
Its much more easy to AMD than acting in the real world. They just have to book some of the best scripted ads at LTT.
Wake up AMD Marketing - I want to get entertained by you!🤣
amd represent value since athlon fx, they lacked since then that's why many stuff works better on intel, intel slept for years since sandy bridge for two reason 1. no competition and 2. no software takes advantage of cores beyond 4, blame software developers they didn't go beyond capabilities, for example photoshop is being the same shit since 15 years ago, oh now finally they take advantage on gpu wow what a waste of time they screw hardware, only things that really put our pc to test are fukin video games, and that's why cpus are the same performance since sandy bridge I bet my old pc with i7 2600k beats the shit out of all the amd and intel cpus of $300 and under... again blame the software developers and maybe smartphones, because everything is build an app.