We are removing asbestos zonolite plus armstrong flooring on our newly purchased .5 mil home. Im super glad we did actual research instead of listening to uninformed content like this.
I know many come to TH-cam to DIY. I give you a BIG thumbs up on explaining the process and the respirator. I would like to know more about how to find environmental cleanup companies. I don’t know a lot about the processes so more info on what questions to asks is very helpful. I am shocked by the expanse. I did not know the EPA had guidelines, this is helpful. I thought it was state by state. I have a abandoned house with water damage with insulation on the floor so I need an expert to come in. Thinks for having the courage to talk about this issue. We all need more education on this
I followed advice from a buddy in our local pipe fitters union and just removed it myself. P100 mask, long gloves, disposable body suit. Connect garden hose, use mist setting, and soak it all down. Keep a large garbage can under work area, and as it becomes saturated it will break and easily fall into can lined with a contractor bag with no dust. Just keep it all wet, keep the hose in hand as you go. Seal bags wet and move on. For residual sticky stuff on pipe, do another pass- keep it very wet. Scrap pipe with file or rasp to turn it to residual into mud and wash into garbage or wipe down with disposable clothe and throw in can, and repeat. Don't let muddy residue drop on ground where it can dry and create dust later. Just be smart, and be careful. Words to live by. I clean my basement in 2 hours. Sure beats a an $8000 abatement job.
I will try this myself. Is there a proper way of disposing it, or just put it in garbage bag and take it out on garbage day? Did you soak it with the mist, how much water?
Exactly, water makes it much safer to work with. I just posted that before reading your comment. It's freaking me out that this guy just touches it as he talks about it. Uh, no.
Depends what type you are stripping, for more serious stuff you would come out of the area directly into a 3 stage decontamination unit. If its non notifiable work then a wipe down and disposal of coveralls etc will be good.
Ik this is old but def should do an update vid maybe about sewer pipes with asbestos, I live in Las Vegas and bought a house built around 60s casino velvet soft like wall paper recently had a plumbing issue had people come by turns out we have asbestos sewer piping, so just would be nice to get some information for what we are dealing with.
I’ve done quite a bit of work in refineries and chemical plants where you have to be clean-shaven to use a respirator or supplied air. Having facial hair disrupts the seal around the mask and you are still getting unfiltered air whether you realize it or not. Not trying to be a jerk just food for thought.
Thank you for this important advice! Especially when removing asbestos on one's own, it is important to strictly adhere to the applicable regulations and recommendations regarding occupational safety. Otherwise you may endanger your own health and that of your fellow human beings. Particularly in the case of renovation and refurbishment work, the following therefore applies: Exercise the greatest caution and play it safe! Even a small material sample is sufficient to determine in a professional test procedure whether a suspicious material contains asbestos. If the commissioned analysis confirms the suspicion of asbestos, have any work on it carried out exclusively by service providers with the necessary certificate of competence. This is the only way you can be sure that there will be no accidental contamination of your living space or clothing with asbestos fibers. If you want to know more about possible locations of asbestos in your home, feel free to visit our interactive asbestos house: www.crb-gmbh.com/en/interactive-graphic Stay healthy!
i found some "chalky" white subsatnce on the pipes at my sons school, they inspected it said it wasnt asbestos.... what could it be, i so glad i was mistaken... but now im curious what it was.
Very helpful video - thanks! What do you do with the plastic/tape at the end of the asbestos insulation where there is just bare pipe? Will the heat from the pipe melt the plastic or tape? Also, where the pipe is exposed, what should I use to insulate the pipe?
Great Question. You have to use a thick mil plastic and a good quality tape. Reinforced packing tape is a good option. As far as exposed pipe there are a few options available from a fabric based insulation, cordage or foam insulation. Any of those are adequate.
Question for you: I had old vented wall furnaces (gas powered heaters) in a condo I live in. The pipes for the venting are asbestos. When one of the old heaters were removed the part of the pipe connected to the pipe broke off. What is the best way to seal where it's broken? These pipes are recessed into the wall and will soon be covered up permanently as I had a different kind of heating system put in. As I understand it the best thing to do is use oil paint to lock it in place. Does that sound correct? Thanks!
I remove asbestos for a living, if it's in a damaged state the best thing to do is have it removed. If you can't get this done then look up serpi-coat, it's a specific paint for the encapsulation of asbestos, because of the type of asbestos this will be, it will require a licenced operative to remove this for you as it falls into the notifiable category. Look up licensed and none licensed works with asbestos to find out more.
For whatever it may be worth. OSHA requires that your respirator for CLASS I Work (specifically abating thermal insulation materials) have its own supplied air. "Class I work with full-facepiece supplied air respirators operated in pressure-demand mode and equipped with an auxiliary positive-pressure, self-contained breathing apparatus when exposure levels exceed 1 f/cc as an 8-hour TWA." People should be really careful with this type of stuff. Just like some of comments below mentioned, if you miss something (like the facial hair not sealing the respirator) then this type of stuff can really negatively impact you.
Good response. The OSHA Class 1 requirements for respiratory protection includes the use of tight fitting Powered Air Purifying Respirators with HEPA filters not supplied air respirators.
@@chrisw8049 he is a noob. Facial hair ruins the mask. You can test this by spraying a perfume nearby and you will smell it. The plastic won’t hold over time, and if you crample the pipe insulation then it releases the fibers into the air. You should watch professional video on asbestos pipe insulation removal and order the professional stuff from their website. It will take weeks of research and preparation and the removal will take days. They have a white cloth hat you wet and wrap around the pipe it’s on the asbestos supply website.
The leak should be repaired first and typically I would have the contractor who fixes the leak address the insulation if possible. Very well may need to be removed or sealed up if the material is exposed and friable.
Wesley, That is a great question. The Rewettable canvas and fiberglass options are very good options but often times the process requires some training or experience and is more involved. It is a good process just takes more for a do it yourself project and cost a little more. Many professional companies chose to use the rewettable product you mentioned.
I hope you can reply to this. I have a 3m respirator with combination filters for particles and some gasses and vapos. In your professional opinion, do you consider fiberglass insulation to be just as dangerous and harmful as abestsos insulation?
Fiberglass which has become airborne can be very dangerous. It is difficult to put a scale of danger on the material as compared to asbestos. My recommendation is to treat them both with the same caution and prevention.
I have a carrier weather maker sx furnace which was manufactured and installed in 1986. Would there be any asbestos inside the furnace gaskets or pilot flame insulation or anywhere else inside the furnace? Please let me know if you have seen asbestos in a property built in 1986 or inside any furnaces produced in 1986.
I have some pipes in my loft with lagging that looks like that. I had it tested by a lab for asbestos and the results came back as 'no asbestos detected'. Im not sure if i should get it tested again, do you know if all lagging that looks like that contains asbestos ?
Lots of insulation looked pretty similar to the asbestos containing lagging back in the day. There's few hard and fast ways to identify it as asbestos containing without that lab test you did. You should be fine, but honestly it wouldn't hurt if you used a respirator and disposable coveralls anyways
Thank you so much for the video. The best video I've seen so far. Can you tell me how long this method will last in my basement before I will need to have the asbestos removed?
Depending on how long ago the pipes were wrapped the falling fibers may be long gone. If you visibly see fibers on the floor in places, it should be properly cleaned up and disposed of. I always recommend a qualified contractor for remediation if needed.
Need advice..planning to buy a old house that the duct has asbestos tape only in the joins of each pipe..do i need ro remove?they are in good condition.but the house inspector said it dangerous...
They should be encapsulated and my recommendation is to hire a professional company to do so. If it is only in the elbows and joists it should not be too costly.
I know this video is from a few years ago but is touching the asbestos wrap/tape like you did dangerous? Does that release invisible fibers? I am asking because some people say not to touch it at all but I had a certified asbestos inspector touch mine in the basement.
Certified asbestos Inspector, supervisor and Air Sampler here. It is safe to touch you just need to wash your hands after. Inhaling and ingesting is only way it has adverse health effects on human body. Now you could argue that touching it, and then touching your mouth may cause the ingestion to happen, but thats why you must wash hands immediately after. Using gloves is recommended!
@@meandnature6452 good question. Where I'm from to be considered Friable it has to, when wet, crumble under hand pressure and contain greater than 1% asbestos. When you touch it, you should wet it down first to help lock the fibers down. Keep the touching to the absolute minimum you can to make the determination. If a small amount of fibers get released its not really a major deal. There are permissible exposure limits that are considered safe. Alot of people are actually exposed daily and they don't even know it. In America its still used in various products such as brake pads on cars. If your standing on a city street corner and cars and busses are stopping for traffic lights there is most likely asbestos fibers floating around in the air. When working in bigger cities we actually have to establish an alternative air quality standard because the existing air is already considered contaminated. And we need to just show were not making it any worse doing our work.
@@chrisseelen1281 okay yeah ive heard we are beeing exposed to it daily, but in very small doses. you could get a lifetime dose of asbestos in just 8 hours cutting asbestos pipes. Its scary stuff
@@chrisseelen1281 but at my work we were demoing a kitchen without testing anything! and if it was asbestos do you think i could have taken it home with me? on my clothes etc. Can i test the indoor air in my house somehow? im very worried
Hey inspector , I respect your work I’m still not sure if I have a asbestos in my home basement I’m sure I do if I can please send you a picture thru email . Of my basement that would be awesome .
I won't be able to positively ID if it is asbestos. TI would have to be tested by viewing under a microscope to determine that. I could give you an idea on the probability but if you have a concern I would recommend sending off a sample to be tested. Feel free to send me a pic. You can post is on the FB page or PM me through there. facebook.com/daggettpropertyinspections/
EPA recommends encapsulating before remval. Leaving it undisturbed is the best way to ensure no exposure. If a pipe leaks then deal with removal at that time out of necessity.
Actually that is a low voltage board with the cover off for the old door bell system. The house is a hundred years old and has some old stuff not in use anymore but no Asbestos on the that Low V distribution panel.
You still have to cut it 😂. The wrap is for dust mitigation. It encapsulates the majority of the asbestos. A little exposure will most likely be a death sentence
You encapsulate sections. Then carefully remove insulation between those sections ensuring 100% encapsulation is maintained and then cut the sections apart and remove them.
No matter what u guys can get in huge trouble if u try and remove it by yourself, it has to go to a specific dump, u can't just throw it in your regular garbage. And if u get caught removing it without a liscence (big trouble!
Huh? So the pipes can get hot - 180 -200F. How long is rhat plastic going to last even with the insulation between it??!! And where your terminations at the exposed pipe - I'm sure that melting plastic smells good!
You are aware that having a beard is breaking the seal to your face mask I hope? So in reality isn't really doing very much, also what filters are you using in your mask?
The filter I use depends on what I am doing. There are specific filters for specific chemicals (acid, formaldehyde, aerosol, etc.) For this application I was using a pre filter and a multi gas 3M 6006. I use a different and appropriate filter for each different type of chemical (which can get expensive to have each filter type.) As far as the beard you are correct that it can diminish the effectiveness especially with chemical materials. For this application my beard was trimmed down and trimmed in for a better seal. I have had this mask fit tested at an OSHA approval testing facility (in Frankfort Illinois) and it passed the fitment test on me with the beard at the trim level it was for the video. My intent in this video was not to be a comprehensive reparator video. I may do one in the future and bring in a professional to discuss it in depth and all of the nuance that goes along with it. Thanks for the reply!
Very informative video. However, when wearing a half mask or full mask it is essential that you are cleanly shaved as this will effect the seal. Having a bushy beard will not give you protection. Unfortunately you may of inhaled fibres that can lay dormant in your body for up to 60 years. Let's hope your body will absorb them.
I'm pretty certain he will be dead in 60 years of non asbestos related causes but I do agree I would definitely shave my face for a project involving asbestos
Step 1: Discard common sense, logic and intellect. Step 2: Make yourself really scared. Step 3: Consult a government bureaucracy for diapering and ba ba's. Step 4. Pay someone a shit ton of money to do what you can do in one hour. Step 5: Remind yourself that your entire neighborhood is dead from scary insulation and that following these steps makes perfect sense.
You was doing everything right until you put that mask on and started messing with that s*** without a bodysuit and you just said where a bodysuit. Something is effing wrong with what you're doing
Mask doesn't seal properly on a bearded face you need to be clean shave! and where you going to depose this asbestos? you better call an abatement contractor to take care of it
This mask was fit tested by an OSHA regulated testing facility in Frankfort Illinois on me with the beard trimmed at the level that was at for the video and passed. This is not intended to be a full how to on respirators. Maybe that is a video I do down the line with my 3M rep.
That is a myth, an urban legend. Same was believed in the aviation industry for pilot o2 masks in depressurizations but was dispelled several years ago after extensive testing found no difference. That's why pilots are allowed beards now at work.
I STRONGLY DISCOURAGE REMOVAL AS DIY! If it gets to the point that you have to remove the asbestos I do not recommend doing that as a DIY. That process is the most dangerous as it pertains to exposure. You should at that point hire a professional EPA approved company to come in and do the work. They will "Bag" the area, creating a negative pressure situation and use very high quality HEPA filters (they call them scrubbers) and ensure that all fibers are collected. They also have all of the safety equipment and trained personnel to handle the situation. I STRONGLY DISCOURAGE REMOVAL AS DIY!
You encapsulate sections, remove the insulation and clean down to the bare pipe between the sections (ensuring everything remains encapsulated) and then cut the encapsulated sections apart. You have to keep the material wet with a spray bottle as you carefully remove it and collect / capture anything that drips or drops off as you are removing the insulation.
All due respect, but you should NEVER even touch the stuff without a mask and gloves. And if you are going to touch it, you must wet it down, really soak it, drench it. Wet asbestos is relatively safe to work with. as long as it doesn't get airborne, you can safely remove it with water and gloves and tools. You scrape the wet stuff off, put it in a plastic bag, change gloves, put those gloves and the plastic bag in a second plastic bag and you are done. But touching dry asbestos for this video? Yikes. All you have to do now is rub your eye, touch your mouth/nose, or pick up a sandwich and eat it, and you have officially put enough asbestos into your system to kill you in another decade or two. Asbestosis takes as little as a spec, the size you can fit on a pin. I have had several co-workers die of it. Most worked with it a lot over the years, but a couple guys died of it and can't remember ever touching it, but knew it was on sites they'd worked. This stuff ought not to be touched. Really, wet it down first, please. ( I restore old houses for a living.)
It is a 3M full face mask. I use a number of different filters on the mask depending on the material that i am potentially being exposed to. 3M has a great website that will help you make the choice on the proper filter and pre-filter to use. Another important note is that if you are going to be working with hazardous material to have your mask fit tested to ensure it is the proper size and is sealed to your face. I had mine tested at an OSHA approved facility by a professional in a battery of tests. One of which is testing your lung capacity and function to ensure you are healthy enough to use the mask.
@@inspectordaggett Yet you show two respirators that ARE NOT approved for use with asbestos. Both respirators have black cartridges which filter out organic vapors and only 1 cartridge has a pre-filter and it's only any N95. They do not stop particulates, such as asbestos. For asbestos, you need purple or magenta filters (P100/N100/R100).
Your not going to get cancer from asbestos one time, if it was that dangerous we would all be dead a long time ago, it’s just a way for abaters to make money- hype
The cost of encapsulation as I showed will cost less than $200. Re-piping an entire exposed plumbing system would require a qualified pipe fitter, draining the system, having the water shutoff for an extended period of time and is the most invasive solution. The costs could easily reach $10,000.
1) For a worker on a job, it is illegal and unsafe to use either of these respirators with a beard. Homeowners can do what they want, but they have to know that they will not be protected with that beard. 2) Both respirators he shows are for organic vapors, they is not effective or legal for asbestos dust, you need P100 or HEPA filter cartridges instead, 3) Using a lemon to test the fit is not great, there are better tests you can do just with your hands, which are still not sufficient, but better than a lemon.
No one take any advice from this man, the whole area needs to be sealed and controlled removal, decontamination units and totally enclosed. I’m an asbestos surveyor and can say this is not how you approach this situation, it’s a licensed product and should only ever be removed by professionals under controlled measures. This video demonstrates a huge risk to health
Yep, can’t believe he touched and flaked it off with no protection. Not to mention no negative pressure, no suit, and not clean shaven. Shocking He also then wraps then takes the mask off. That’s not how dust works, it stays in the air…..
@@fannymcpeterson1543 the scary thing being that the bloke in the video is styling himself as some kind of expert…. I’m far from an expert but even I know the basics of being safe around asbestos from my own research. He’s hasn’t even done that clearly
Do not follow this video! This guy is giving out harmful advice! First off, he is using the wrong respirator filters. Asbestos filters are purple or magenta in color or P100. Second, he isn't even cleaned shaved...he doesn't have a proper seal for the respirator. Do not follow this video please.
well i mean he isnt tearing it out but yeah if he was actually doing abatement he would be exposing himself pretty bad. Technically he could wear a PAPR with a hood and be fine for abatement even with a beard but those are out of the price range of most people.
This guy is more than irresponsible. Please do as he says and get a professional to do this. Do do what he does. I teach asbestos classes and this video is one of the highlights. So fun to rip his methods to shreads. .
Darrell Wyatt This guy ought to be thrown in jail for giving this advice on asbestos handling. Asbestos abatement Instructor here. 1. The stuff he ID’ed is friable - don’t go near it without proper PPE. 2. Concur about the respirator, CLEAN SHAVED - OSHA rules. 2. You don’t just de-suit and throw your PPE in the regular trash - OSHA and maybe State asbestos containing material disposal violation. Must be properly marked and disposed of. No wonder people are still dying from asbestos exposure.
Exactly. This is how to die slow, 101. Do not touch this shit, I would burn the place down and start new, sell the lot . Do not buy a house that has this shit . No matter what!
Ur wrong u can smell anything unless u use chemical filters ! It's ok if u smell oranges or whatever. Just do a respirator check. Hold both filters and suck in. It should stick to ur face!
DONT ENCAPSULATE IT, have it removed by a professional, if you encapsulate it. when you eventually will have to have it removed it will cost you more then it would otherwise
The EPA recommends encapsulation before removal as removal increases the probability of the material becoming friable (airborne) which is when the asbestos is hazardous. If the material is in good condition encapsulation should be the first choice. If it is deteriorated and falling apart then removal is indeed the choice.
I don’t think the extra 25 minutes it will take an abatement company to cut off the plastic wrap is going to make a difference in the $10,000 bill they give you in the first place
Dude, this is the worst rendition of asbestos control I've ever seen in my 15 years experience. 60 percent of what was said is incorrect and the other 40 was just bad info. Asbestos is very hazardous and should ALWAYS be handled by trained professionals. Period. Please be advised.
We have a licensed professional coming to remediate the attic in the home. They say we can still be in the home downstairs while they do it and they'll cover all of the vents with tape. Is that reasonable?
How can you say this is the best mask you would have no protection what's so ever whilst you have facial hair you need to be clean shaven to obtain a airtight seal around face
Wow, you really need to learn about respirators before giving advice. Those respirators you've shown are great for asbestos work, but both would need the proper filter. You've shown them with black cartridges which filter out organic vapors. They do not stop particulates, such as asbestos. For asbestos, you need purple or magenta filters (P100/N100/R100). Yes, you have a particulate PRE filter on one cartridge, but that is not rated for asbestos. And an orange or lemon for fit testing? Come on. You are putting people at risk with this nonsense.
![[MIRRORED] LISA - ROCKSTAR 🎸 MV version #LISA #BLACKPINK #ROCKSTAR](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-U58DuCCtZk/mqdefault.jpg)
![แม่กลองสองใจ - ซีแกรม โตเกียว มิวสิค [ OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GSQfVjcr_f4/mqdefault.jpg)
We are removing asbestos zonolite plus armstrong flooring on our newly purchased .5 mil home.
Im super glad we did actual research instead of listening to uninformed content like this.
I know many come to TH-cam to DIY. I give you a BIG thumbs up on explaining the process and the respirator. I would like to know more about how to find environmental cleanup companies. I don’t know a lot about the processes so more info on what questions to asks is very helpful. I am shocked by the expanse. I did not know the EPA had guidelines, this is helpful. I thought it was state by state. I have a abandoned house with water damage with insulation on the floor so I need an expert to come in. Thinks for having the courage to talk about this issue. We all need more education on this
I followed advice from a buddy in our local pipe fitters union and just removed it myself. P100 mask, long gloves, disposable body suit. Connect garden hose, use mist setting, and soak it all down. Keep a large garbage can under work area, and as it becomes saturated it will break and easily fall into can lined with a contractor bag with no dust. Just keep it all wet, keep the hose in hand as you go. Seal bags wet and move on. For residual sticky stuff on pipe, do another pass- keep it very wet. Scrap pipe with file or rasp to turn it to residual into mud and wash into garbage or wipe down with disposable clothe and throw in can, and repeat. Don't let muddy residue drop on ground where it can dry and create dust later. Just be smart, and be careful. Words to live by.
I clean my basement in 2 hours. Sure beats a an $8000 abatement job.
I will try this myself. Is there a proper way of disposing it, or just put it in garbage bag and take it out on garbage day? Did you soak it with the mist, how much water?
Please no one try this. This is not how you removed it.
HORRIBLE IDEA!!! DO NOT FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS
Exactly, water makes it much safer to work with. I just posted that before reading your comment. It's freaking me out that this guy just touches it as he talks about it. Uh, no.
@J It depends on the state. In NY you can just put it in the regular garbage, as a homeowner (not contractor).
I am an asbestos removal operative. We use serpi-coat witch is a paint specifically for the encapsulation of asbestos.
Great product!
Hey Paddy, how would one clean a mask and remove clothes after dealing with asbestos?
Depends what type you are stripping, for more serious stuff you would come out of the area directly into a 3 stage decontamination unit. If its non notifiable work then a wipe down and disposal of coveralls etc will be good.
Ik this is old but def should do an update vid maybe about sewer pipes with asbestos, I live in Las Vegas and bought a house built around 60s casino velvet soft like wall paper recently had a plumbing issue had people come by turns out we have asbestos sewer piping, so just would be nice to get some information for what we are dealing with.
Thanks.Good one.
I’ve done quite a bit of work in refineries and chemical plants where you have to be clean-shaven to use a respirator or supplied air. Having facial hair disrupts the seal around the mask and you are still getting unfiltered air whether you realize it or not. Not trying to be a jerk just food for thought.
Excellent point.
Firefighters are required to not a beard for the same reason.
Thank you for this important advice! Especially when removing asbestos on one's own, it is important to strictly adhere to the applicable regulations and recommendations regarding occupational safety. Otherwise you may endanger your own health and that of your fellow human beings.
Particularly in the case of renovation and refurbishment work, the following therefore applies: Exercise the greatest caution and play it safe! Even a small material sample is sufficient to determine in a professional test procedure whether a suspicious material contains asbestos. If the commissioned analysis confirms the suspicion of asbestos, have any work on it carried out exclusively by service providers with the necessary certificate of competence. This is the only way you can be sure that there will be no accidental contamination of your living space or clothing with asbestos fibers. If you want to know more about possible locations of asbestos in your home, feel free to visit our interactive asbestos house: www.crb-gmbh.com/en/interactive-graphic
Stay healthy!
What happens when you have a leak in a pipe and the asbestos is getting wet, how do you work with that?
Please do a video on when you’re faced with the removal of asbestos due to a water pipe leak repair.
i found some "chalky" white subsatnce on the pipes at my sons school, they inspected it said it wasnt asbestos.... what could it be, i so glad i was mistaken... but now im curious what it was.
Very helpful video - thanks! What do you do with the plastic/tape at the end of the asbestos insulation where there is just bare pipe? Will the heat from the pipe melt the plastic or tape? Also, where the pipe is exposed, what should I use to insulate the pipe?
Great Question. You have to use a thick mil plastic and a good quality tape. Reinforced packing tape is a good option.
As far as exposed pipe there are a few options available from a fabric based insulation, cordage or foam insulation. Any of those are adequate.
Question for you: I had old vented wall furnaces (gas powered heaters) in a condo I live in. The pipes for the venting are asbestos. When one of the old heaters were removed the part of the pipe connected to the pipe broke off. What is the best way to seal where it's broken? These pipes are recessed into the wall and will soon be covered up permanently as I had a different kind of heating system put in. As I understand it the best thing to do is use oil paint to lock it in place. Does that sound correct? Thanks!
I remove asbestos for a living, if it's in a damaged state the best thing to do is have it removed. If you can't get this done then look up serpi-coat, it's a specific paint for the encapsulation of asbestos, because of the type of asbestos this will be, it will require a licenced operative to remove this for you as it falls into the notifiable category. Look up licensed and none licensed works with asbestos to find out more.
What happens if those pipes need to be replaced in the future?
where do you get the bags/plastic that you used?
For whatever it may be worth. OSHA requires that your respirator for CLASS I Work (specifically abating thermal insulation materials) have its own supplied air. "Class I work with full-facepiece supplied air respirators operated in pressure-demand mode and equipped with an auxiliary positive-pressure, self-contained breathing apparatus when exposure levels exceed 1 f/cc as an 8-hour TWA." People should be really careful with this type of stuff. Just like some of comments below mentioned, if you miss something (like the facial hair not sealing the respirator) then this type of stuff can really negatively impact you.
Good response. The OSHA Class 1 requirements for respiratory protection includes the use of tight fitting Powered Air Purifying Respirators with HEPA filters not supplied air respirators.
Would it be best to wet it down first?
Great video, thanks for the lesson. But was curious what was the name of that plastic wrap that you wrapped around the asbestos pipe ?????
Dude. This is totally wrong and extremely dangerous
@@chrisdurant6699 This video is? What did he do wrong?
@@chrisw8049 he is a noob. Facial hair ruins the mask. You can test this by spraying a perfume nearby and you will smell it. The plastic won’t hold over time, and if you crample the pipe insulation then it releases the fibers into the air. You should watch professional video on asbestos pipe insulation removal and order the professional stuff from their website. It will take weeks of research and preparation and the removal will take days. They have a white cloth hat you wet and wrap around the pipe it’s on the asbestos supply website.
Hi there . What do you do when you have pipe insulation that is very well from a leak. Do you let it dry on its own or must it be removed?
The leak should be repaired first and typically I would have the contractor who fixes the leak address the insulation if possible. Very well may need to be removed or sealed up if the material is exposed and friable.
Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts on rewettable canvas encapsulation?
Wesley, That is a great question. The Rewettable canvas and fiberglass options are very good options but often times the process requires some training or experience and is more involved. It is a good process just takes more for a do it yourself project and cost a little more. Many professional companies chose to use the rewettable product you mentioned.
I hope you can reply to this. I have a 3m respirator with combination filters for particles and some gasses and vapos. In your professional opinion, do you consider fiberglass insulation to be just as dangerous and harmful as abestsos insulation?
Fiberglass which has become airborne can be very dangerous. It is difficult to put a scale of danger on the material as compared to asbestos. My recommendation is to treat them both with the same caution and prevention.
I have a similar cement or plastered ceiling. Is asbestos typically contained in that as well?
Hard to tell based on that description. Depends on the age and type of material. Best thing to do would be to have a sample tested.
I have a carrier weather maker sx furnace which was manufactured and installed in 1986. Would there be any asbestos inside the furnace gaskets or pilot flame insulation or anywhere else inside the furnace? Please let me know if you have seen asbestos in a property built in 1986 or inside any furnaces produced in 1986.
I have some pipes in my loft with lagging that looks like that. I had it tested by a lab for asbestos and the results came back as 'no asbestos detected'. Im not sure if i should get it tested again, do you know if all lagging that looks like that contains asbestos ?
If the test came back negative then you should be ok. If you wanted a second test that would be an extra precaution.
Lots of insulation looked pretty similar to the asbestos containing lagging back in the day. There's few hard and fast ways to identify it as asbestos containing without that lab test you did. You should be fine, but honestly it wouldn't hurt if you used a respirator and disposable coveralls anyways
Thank you so much for the video. The best video I've seen so far. Can you tell me how long this method will last in my basement before I will need to have the asbestos removed?
Depends on the thickness and quality of the material that you use. Again my recommendation is to have it done professionally.
Previous owner wrapped up, how can I be sure he didn't leave fibers to settle I was just on the basement floor, and what can I do about that?
Depending on how long ago the pipes were wrapped the falling fibers may be long gone. If you visibly see fibers on the floor in places, it should be properly cleaned up and disposed of. I always recommend a qualified contractor for remediation if needed.
Good thing there was an ad for mortgage relief stimulus filmed by a guy in selfie style...nothing suspicious about that at all!
Wow is this man still alive?
It takes 20 to 30 years before you are dead.
Use glove bags. They are way easier then this method! And get it wet! Soak the pipes! Water water water
Need advice..planning to buy a old house that the duct has asbestos tape only in the joins of each pipe..do i need ro remove?they are in good condition.but the house inspector said it dangerous...
They should be encapsulated and my recommendation is to hire a professional company to do so. If it is only in the elbows and joists it should not be too costly.
@@daggettpropertyinspection2324 thank you
Don’t ever buy a house with this shit in it
@@smokefentanyl In Europe you can't really find any homes without it in them, lol.
I know this video is from a few years ago but is touching the asbestos wrap/tape like you did dangerous? Does that release invisible fibers? I am asking because some people say not to touch it at all but I had a certified asbestos inspector touch mine in the basement.
Certified asbestos Inspector, supervisor and Air Sampler here. It is safe to touch you just need to wash your hands after. Inhaling and ingesting is only way it has adverse health effects on human body. Now you could argue that touching it, and then touching your mouth may cause the ingestion to happen, but thats why you must wash hands immediately after. Using gloves is recommended!
@@chrisseelen1281 what if you touch it and it becomes airbourne?
@@meandnature6452 good question. Where I'm from to be considered Friable it has to, when wet, crumble under hand pressure and contain greater than 1% asbestos. When you touch it, you should wet it down first to help lock the fibers down. Keep the touching to the absolute minimum you can to make the determination. If a small amount of fibers get released its not really a major deal. There are permissible exposure limits that are considered safe. Alot of people are actually exposed daily and they don't even know it. In America its still used in various products such as brake pads on cars. If your standing on a city street corner and cars and busses are stopping for traffic lights there is most likely asbestos fibers floating around in the air. When working in bigger cities we actually have to establish an alternative air quality standard because the existing air is already considered contaminated. And we need to just show were not making it any worse doing our work.
@@chrisseelen1281 okay yeah ive heard we are beeing exposed to it daily, but in very small doses. you could get a lifetime dose of asbestos in just 8 hours cutting asbestos pipes. Its scary stuff
@@chrisseelen1281 but at my work we were demoing a kitchen without testing anything! and if it was asbestos do you think i could have taken it home with me? on my clothes etc. Can i test the indoor air in my house somehow? im very worried
Very helpful, but I was trained never to touch it like he did
The epa says homeowners can remove asbestos,
Any videos how to remove it instead
Always use 3m, NIOSH full face resperator
Hey inspector , I respect your work I’m still not sure if I have a asbestos in my home basement I’m sure I do if I can please send you a picture thru email . Of my basement that would be awesome .
I won't be able to positively ID if it is asbestos. TI would have to be tested by viewing under a microscope to determine that. I could give you an idea on the probability but if you have a concern I would recommend sending off a sample to be tested.
Feel free to send me a pic.
You can post is on the FB page or PM me through there.
facebook.com/daggettpropertyinspections/
On the left side of the mask you didnt have particle filter p3 on. only the right side .
The coal filter for vapour isnt for asbestos
Exactly, and that's just an N95 pre-filter on one side, not even a P100
So that’s just sealing it with plastic no what about removing it. Is there a video on that
Removing should only be done by a qualified contractor licensed to remove this material.
and when the pipe leaks what do you do.. asbestos should be removed completely in my opinion
EPA recommends encapsulating before remval. Leaving it undisturbed is the best way to ensure no exposure. If a pipe leaks then deal with removal at that time out of necessity.
It looks like there is a black asbestos electrical panel behind you in the video, am I correct?
Actually that is a low voltage board with the cover off for the old door bell system. The house is a hundred years old and has some old stuff not in use anymore but no Asbestos on the that Low V distribution panel.
The beard compromised the seal on the mask
after is wrapped how am I removing it?
You still have to cut it 😂. The wrap is for dust mitigation. It encapsulates the majority of the asbestos. A little exposure will most likely be a death sentence
You encapsulate sections. Then carefully remove insulation between those sections ensuring 100% encapsulation is maintained and then cut the sections apart and remove them.
No matter what u guys can get in huge trouble if u try and remove it by yourself, it has to go to a specific dump, u can't just throw it in your regular garbage. And if u get caught removing it without a liscence (big trouble!
Huh? So the pipes can get hot - 180 -200F. How long is rhat plastic going to last even with the insulation between it??!! And where your terminations at the exposed pipe - I'm sure that melting plastic smells good!
You are aware that having a beard is breaking the seal to your face mask I hope? So in reality isn't really doing very much, also what filters are you using in your mask?
The filter I use depends on what I am doing. There are specific filters for specific chemicals (acid, formaldehyde, aerosol, etc.) For this application I was using a pre filter and a multi gas 3M 6006. I use a different and appropriate filter for each different type of chemical (which can get expensive to have each filter type.)
As far as the beard you are correct that it can diminish the effectiveness especially with chemical materials. For this application my beard was trimmed down and trimmed in for a better seal. I have had this mask fit tested at an OSHA approval testing facility (in Frankfort Illinois) and it passed the fitment test on me with the beard at the trim level it was for the video.
My intent in this video was not to be a comprehensive reparator video. I may do one in the future and bring in a professional to discuss it in depth and all of the nuance that goes along with it.
Thanks for the reply!
If that insulation has been like that for years the fibers are already out in the room, covering it just prevents more from coming out.
What do you want him to shave his beard now for your entertainment? Why don't you just request an all over tan as well.
@@DodgeCity111 no it stops leaks for the mask you muppet
@@daggettpropertyinspection2324 you should avoid doing any respirators videos until you under them
Best to have it removed professionally.
Can you have professionals come out and wrap it instead of removing it?
They can do some kind of encapsulation process depending on your state!
Put mask on and hold the filters and suck in, also hood bottom valve and blow out
Very informative video. However, when wearing a half mask or full mask it is essential that you are cleanly shaved as this will effect the seal. Having a bushy beard will not give you protection. Unfortunately you may of inhaled fibres that can lay dormant in your body for up to 60 years. Let's hope your body will absorb them.
He kno his stuff
I'm pretty certain he will be dead in 60 years of non asbestos related causes but I do agree I would definitely shave my face for a project involving asbestos
@@imnotjesusimthedopemanbitc4092 clearly not
@@danielwiley5796 lol
Step 1: Discard common sense, logic and intellect.
Step 2: Make yourself really scared.
Step 3: Consult a government bureaucracy for diapering and ba ba's.
Step 4. Pay someone a shit ton of money to do what you can do in one hour.
Step 5: Remind yourself that your entire neighborhood is dead from scary insulation and that following these steps makes perfect sense.
You obviously do not understand the dangers associated with asbestos. It is not a job to be done by yourself.
In fact if your not certified for asbestos abatement, you shouldn't be removing that asbestos.
You was doing everything right until you put that mask on and started messing with that s*** without a bodysuit and you just said where a bodysuit. Something is effing wrong with what you're doing
Mask doesn't seal properly on a bearded face you need to be clean shave! and where you going to depose this asbestos? you better call an abatement contractor to take care of it
This mask was fit tested by an OSHA regulated testing facility in Frankfort Illinois on me with the beard trimmed at the level that was at for the video and passed. This is not intended to be a full how to on respirators. Maybe that is a video I do down the line with my 3M rep.
That is a myth, an urban legend. Same was believed in the aviation industry for pilot o2 masks in depressurizations but was dispelled several years ago after extensive testing found no difference. That's why pilots are allowed beards now at work.
this only tells you how to cover the pipes. how do you actually take the asbestos off and contain it for proper disposal?
I STRONGLY DISCOURAGE REMOVAL AS DIY!
If it gets to the point that you have to remove the asbestos I do not recommend doing that as a DIY. That process is the most dangerous as it pertains to exposure. You should at that point hire a professional EPA approved company to come in and do the work.
They will "Bag" the area, creating a negative pressure situation and use very high quality HEPA filters (they call them scrubbers) and ensure that all fibers are collected. They also have all of the safety equipment and trained personnel to handle the situation.
I STRONGLY DISCOURAGE REMOVAL AS DIY!
You encapsulate sections, remove the insulation and clean down to the bare pipe between the sections (ensuring everything remains encapsulated) and then cut the encapsulated sections apart. You have to keep the material wet with a spray bottle as you carefully remove it and collect / capture anything that drips or drops off as you are removing the insulation.
Wet wrap is the Best Solution lols.
All due respect, but you should NEVER even touch the stuff without a mask and gloves. And if you are going to touch it, you must wet it down, really soak it, drench it. Wet asbestos is relatively safe to work with. as long as it doesn't get airborne, you can safely remove it with water and gloves and tools. You scrape the wet stuff off, put it in a plastic bag, change gloves, put those gloves and the plastic bag in a second plastic bag and you are done. But touching dry asbestos for this video? Yikes. All you have to do now is rub your eye, touch your mouth/nose, or pick up a sandwich and eat it, and you have officially put enough asbestos into your system to kill you in another decade or two. Asbestosis takes as little as a spec, the size you can fit on a pin. I have had several co-workers die of it. Most worked with it a lot over the years, but a couple guys died of it and can't remember ever touching it, but knew it was on sites they'd worked. This stuff ought not to be touched. Really, wet it down first, please. ( I restore old houses for a living.)
What kind of mask is that you are using?
It is a 3M full face mask. I use a number of different filters on the mask depending on the material that i am potentially being exposed to. 3M has a great website that will help you make the choice on the proper filter and pre-filter to use. Another important note is that if you are going to be working with hazardous material to have your mask fit tested to ensure it is the proper size and is sealed to your face. I had mine tested at an OSHA approved facility by a professional in a battery of tests. One of which is testing your lung capacity and function to ensure you are healthy enough to use the mask.
@@inspectordaggett Yet you show two respirators that ARE NOT approved for use with asbestos. Both respirators have black cartridges which filter out organic vapors and only 1 cartridge has a pre-filter and it's only any N95. They do not stop particulates, such as asbestos. For asbestos, you need purple or magenta filters (P100/N100/R100).
I pulled a bunch of tile up and I feel just fine
for now, haha
Amazing. I once forgot to put my seat belt on and didn't die. That must mean you dont need to wear seat belts. Flawless Trump logic.
Your not going to get cancer from asbestos one time, if it was that dangerous we would all be dead a long time ago, it’s just a way for abaters to make money- hype
@@t.s.8303 This guy died of COVID even after his 15th booster.
Hmmm why not just wrap the pipe up in duct tape and cut the pipe and replace it.
The cost of encapsulation as I showed will cost less than $200. Re-piping an entire exposed plumbing system would require a qualified pipe fitter, draining the system, having the water shutoff for an extended period of time and is the most invasive solution. The costs could easily reach $10,000.
1) For a worker on a job, it is illegal and unsafe to use either of these respirators with a beard. Homeowners can do what they want, but they have to know that they will not be protected with that beard. 2) Both respirators he shows are for organic vapors, they is not effective or legal for asbestos dust, you need P100 or HEPA filter cartridges instead, 3) Using a lemon to test the fit is not great, there are better tests you can do just with your hands, which are still not sufficient, but better than a lemon.
No one take any advice from this man, the whole area needs to be sealed and controlled removal, decontamination units and totally enclosed. I’m an asbestos surveyor and can say this is not how you approach this situation, it’s a licensed product and should only ever be removed by professionals under controlled measures. This video demonstrates a huge risk to health
Sounds like a you have a conflict of interest . . . $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@@zackzander425 er no it’s called law, also until you analyse it in the lab you wouldn’t have a clue my friend
Yep, can’t believe he touched and flaked it off with no protection. Not to mention no negative pressure, no suit, and not clean shaven. Shocking
He also then wraps then takes the mask off. That’s not how dust works, it stays in the air…..
@@jamiejosh96 finally, someone with intelligence has entered the chat
@@fannymcpeterson1543 the scary thing being that the bloke in the video is styling himself as some kind of expert…. I’m far from an expert but even I know the basics of being safe around asbestos from my own research. He’s hasn’t even done that clearly
Do not follow this video! This guy is giving out harmful advice! First off, he is using the wrong respirator filters. Asbestos filters are purple or magenta in color or P100. Second, he isn't even cleaned shaved...he doesn't have a proper seal for the respirator. Do not follow this video please.
Absolutely. I did asbestos removal for 3 years before moving to insulation. A respirator is useless unless your clean shaved.
well i mean he isnt tearing it out but yeah if he was actually doing abatement he would be exposing himself pretty bad. Technically he could wear a PAPR with a hood and be fine for abatement even with a beard but those are out of the price range of most people.
This guy is more than irresponsible. Please do as he says and get a professional to do this. Do do what he does. I teach asbestos classes and this video is one of the highlights. So fun to rip his methods to shreads. .
Darrell Wyatt
This guy ought to be thrown in jail for giving this advice on asbestos handling. Asbestos abatement Instructor here.
1. The stuff he ID’ed is friable - don’t go near it without proper PPE.
2. Concur about the respirator, CLEAN SHAVED - OSHA rules.
2. You don’t just de-suit and throw your PPE in the regular trash - OSHA and maybe State asbestos containing material disposal violation. Must be properly marked and disposed of.
No wonder people are still dying from asbestos exposure.
Exactly. This is how to die slow, 101. Do not touch this shit, I would burn the place down and start new, sell the lot . Do not buy a house that has this shit . No matter what!
Ur wrong u can smell anything unless u use chemical filters ! It's ok if u smell oranges or whatever. Just do a respirator check. Hold both filters and suck in. It should stick to ur face!
You got it all on your closes, and entire basement, may as well crush up that lagging and snort it dude.
Yep
asbestos in straight pipes? never seen before. it 99.9 just in Bends
@@lisac4049 smoke it , shit gets you high as a kite
@@smokefentanyl I already did. it didn't do much. Thanks for the tip! ROTFL
@@lisac4049 gotta use a oxyacetylene torch to light it, stuffs really hard to burn
@@smokefentanyl LMAO I will keep that in mind.
Never seen asbestos in straight run? You obviously don't get out much.
If u put it on a motorcycle pipe your motorcycle sounds better RAHAHAHAHA
DONT ENCAPSULATE IT, have it removed by a professional, if you encapsulate it. when you eventually will have to have it removed it will cost you more then it would otherwise
The EPA recommends encapsulation before removal as removal increases the probability of the material becoming friable (airborne) which is when the asbestos is hazardous. If the material is in good condition encapsulation should be the first choice. If it is deteriorated and falling apart then removal is indeed the choice.
I don’t think the extra 25 minutes it will take an abatement company to cut off the plastic wrap is going to make a difference in the $10,000 bill they give you in the first place
Dude, this is the worst rendition of asbestos control I've ever seen in my 15 years experience. 60 percent of what was said is incorrect and the other 40 was just bad info. Asbestos is very hazardous and should ALWAYS be handled by trained professionals. Period. Please be advised.
Absolutely, worst video ever!
We have a licensed professional coming to remediate the attic in the home. They say we can still be in the home downstairs while they do it and they'll cover all of the vents with tape. Is that reasonable?
@@KK-pm7udIt should be fine. Is it vermiculite they are removing?
@@andrewv4491 I think it is wrap tape and asbestos around the hoods by each vent? I'm not 100% certain.
Not to mention the fact that homeboy is just casually breathing all that crap with zero hazmat PPE or RPE.
No water!! 🤦♂️ what u think ganna happen wen u cut threw the plastic, ganna be friable, Use water!!! Use glovebags!! This is wrong way!
How can you say this is the best mask you would have no protection what's so ever whilst you have facial hair you need to be clean shaven to obtain a airtight seal around face
I used gorilla duct tape all around while wearing three masks.
The amount of masks doesnt matter. You were likely exposed to asbestos fibers
No good.
If you got a beard with a mask you ain't saving shit asshole stop giving out wrong advice you are killing people
dont touch it with your hands!!! you should be wearing ppe! very dangerous.
If you are wearing that mask with a beard you are an asshole !!!
Wow, you really need to learn about respirators before giving advice. Those respirators you've shown are great for asbestos work, but both would need the proper filter. You've shown them with black cartridges which filter out organic vapors. They do not stop particulates, such as asbestos. For asbestos, you need purple or magenta filters (P100/N100/R100). Yes, you have a particulate PRE filter on one cartridge, but that is not rated for asbestos. And an orange or lemon for fit testing? Come on. You are putting people at risk with this nonsense.
Omg, wtf are you doing?
You know better!
Lead by a safe example. This is not it.