Underrated sadly, Liz Phair was my childhood and teenage years still come back as a 32 year old male and she is amazing very beautiful and talented ❤ she still rocks 🤘
I think because PF hates everything The Matrix production team releases - see Avril Lavigne. Clearly the most successful and listenable LP in her discography so far - go figure.
@@pjeffries301 Exile in Guyville is my top 20 favorite albums of all time, so I wouldn’t go that far lol, but the self-titled is still a really good album in its own right!
people said she "sold out" when this album came out because it was produced by Avril Lavigne's production team, The Matrix, and were really uspet. Unless you were around and big into music back then its kinda hard to understand that whole vibe but it was like nobody who was seriously into indie/alternative/punk music liked or respected Avril Lavigne... or if you did, well Avril and people who liked her were seen as the ultimate "posers", she was viewed fake punk etc if you admitted to liking Avril you'd be laughed at and called a poser too.. the only other artists I remember getting so much "poser" hate back then was Good Charlotte. Guys werent subjected to the same scrutiny as female artists which really isnt fair. But the thing is about Liz Phair was that she had been the but complete opposite of that poser sellout image so it was a total flip. people had started to see her as a sellout. she was like the ultimate independent 90s alternative rock chick and so her making music with a more poppy sound with the Matrix was seen as like a betrayal. Me personally I liked the album. Alot of people jumped on the "sellout" bandwagon without even listening to it at all. People were such music snobs back then far worse than today. I remember carefully putting up only the coolest bands on my Music section on my Myspace profile. We would actually write "pre-Matrix Liz Phair" or "early Liz Phair" kind of like how people were with Metallica "i like Metallica but only the Black album and before" Its just weird to think about now.
@@heatheroriordan5800it’s so interesting hearing stuff like this! I love music but wow it’s crazy how much more open everyone has become. Thanks for informing though, it’s always fascinating to see past perspectives on these amazing tracks !
@@heatheroriordan5800Well said Heather, I’m going to go even further in Liz’s defense and point out that she worked with the Matrix on only about 1/3 of the record. The majority was produced by Michael Penn or R. Walt Vincent, Pete Yorn’s producer. Hardly sexy sellout musicians. Probably only less than 1% of music fans even ever knew who Pete Yorn was or is. The record, mostly on the second half is filled with well crafted and very melodic alternative music. You are right that at that time a lot of artists were the victim of identity politics, like “I can’t let my friends or peers know I like this record or I will look bad”, even if they actually liked the record. All I know is that I saw her tour this record and the gyrating with the mini-dress seemed a little forced, but I knew all the songs and it was FUN. Isn’t that the bottom line?
Liz Phair (2003) is such a misunderstood album it’s mainstream but, still very raw and Liz Phair the album deserves to be analyzed as a great accomplishment (Which it is) so many music critics didn’t give it a fair shake and disregard it as her selling out going Pop (far from true imo)
Such a great pop song, with just a few touches of subversion. This should have been a monster hit. And I really like this alternate video that focuses on her. And yes, Liz it hurts when I think of how boring I must be.
You have about 10% of artists who would be this wide open writing a really hooky pop record like this. Phair writes great records, is pretty as hell, but mostly I respect her courage.
The coolest woman to ever rock. Extraordinary is an understatement.
This was an absolute banger. I'd listen to it on my way to the airport to get myself psyched up for some trip somewhere.
Me too!!! Probably because this was our life’s soundtrack 😊
Underrated sadly, Liz Phair was my childhood and teenage years still come back as a 32 year old male and she is amazing very beautiful and talented ❤ she still rocks 🤘
Underrated album, talented musician, and gorgeous lady.
This is just a really good hooky power pop outing from Liz Phair. It’s great; I don’t understand why Pitchfork hates it!
I think because PF hates everything The Matrix production team releases - see Avril Lavigne. Clearly the most successful and listenable LP in her discography so far - go figure.
@@pjeffries301 Exile in Guyville is my top 20 favorite albums of all time, so I wouldn’t go that far lol, but the self-titled is still a really good album in its own right!
people said she "sold out" when this album came out because it was produced by Avril Lavigne's production team, The Matrix, and were really uspet. Unless you were around and big into music back then its kinda hard to understand that whole vibe but it was like nobody who was seriously into indie/alternative/punk music liked or respected Avril Lavigne... or if you did, well Avril and people who liked her were seen as the ultimate "posers", she was viewed fake punk etc if you admitted to liking Avril you'd be laughed at and called a poser too.. the only other artists I remember getting so much "poser" hate back then was Good Charlotte. Guys werent subjected to the same scrutiny as female artists which really isnt fair. But the thing is about Liz Phair was that she had been the but complete opposite of that poser sellout image so it was a total flip. people had started to see her as a sellout. she was like the ultimate independent 90s alternative rock chick and so her making music with a more poppy sound with the Matrix was seen as like a betrayal. Me personally I liked the album. Alot of people jumped on the "sellout" bandwagon without even listening to it at all. People were such music snobs back then far worse than today. I remember carefully putting up only the coolest bands on my Music section on my Myspace profile. We would actually write "pre-Matrix Liz Phair" or "early Liz Phair" kind of like how people were with Metallica "i like Metallica but only the Black album and before" Its just weird to think about now.
@@heatheroriordan5800it’s so interesting hearing stuff like this!
I love music but wow it’s crazy how much more open everyone has become.
Thanks for informing though, it’s always fascinating to see past perspectives on these amazing tracks !
@@heatheroriordan5800Well said Heather, I’m going to go even further in Liz’s defense and point out that she worked with the Matrix on only about 1/3 of the record. The majority was produced by Michael Penn or R. Walt Vincent, Pete Yorn’s producer. Hardly sexy sellout musicians. Probably only less than 1% of music fans even ever knew who Pete Yorn was or is. The record, mostly on the second half is filled with well crafted and very melodic alternative music. You are right that at that time a lot of artists were the victim of identity politics, like “I can’t let my friends or peers know I like this record or I will look bad”, even if they actually liked the record. All I know is that I saw her tour this record and the gyrating with the mini-dress seemed a little forced, but I knew all the songs and it was FUN. Isn’t that the bottom line?
Super goddess, that's what she is.
This is my favorite song from the record and is possibly my favorite Liz Phair song
song still speaks volumes in 2023. Songs like this paved the way for some of taylor swift's great songs. So underrated...at least for women.
@carolbonner531 I used to live in the Jungle at UConn. Can you imagine?
I only discovered Liz Phair recently but I love this song and album :)
I love Liz Phair, and this song, too.
Liz Phair (2003) is such a misunderstood album it’s mainstream but, still very raw and Liz Phair the album deserves to be analyzed as a great accomplishment (Which it is) so many music critics didn’t give it a fair shake and disregard it as her selling out going Pop (far from true imo)
She's so beautiful. ❤
Please re-upload this in 2160p
Great album
Such a great pop song, with just a few touches of subversion. This should have been a monster hit. And I really like this alternate video that focuses on her.
And yes, Liz it hurts when I think of how boring I must be.
You have about 10% of artists who would be this wide open writing a really hooky pop record like this. Phair writes great records, is pretty as hell, but mostly I respect her courage.
She rocks
Cheer~~very unusual or remarkable.,??(Good rhythm)😅
Turn up volume. Luv you
I can beat her in basketball .
The coolest song of the 90,s
2003 actually
It's been my life theme song for well over a decade.
Me too 😁
I was so obsessed with this song as a teen.
This is Liz Phair's Revolver moment.
A peer.....she can do no wrong.....
Luv you.....
Super goddess！
❤❤❤❤❤❤😅
Extraordinary Venusian
what
Nice guitars...
She's SO hot. And that's her best album to date.
Whats the other version?
The film version. It's on her channel.
She's good
You dont go home...at night...😂
U are...extra ordinary
I'm in love, shes so hot, talented, the face. If yall see her tell her shes a babe.
I wonder if she will ever know how many people she helped save in high school.
90’s in a nutshell
So phair finally filled out! Decent kisser,to boot
Lyrics are stupid
then come love me
no im not your fan