"Immunization" happens when you're a child, it's a term from childhood , he didn't lie , but can't expect media honesty, when a definition has been changed twice within a year
I don’t hate Brady. I like Brady. I hate listening to skip talk about Brady or anything Brady related. He is intolerable when it come to Brady. Brady is skips god and it shows every time there is a segment about him on the show
@@paulsmith5803 yea taunting is only technically initiated if the said taunter makes a positive gain or has a significant lead the bucs only scored 0 points so Brady therefore couldn’t even taunt more like “ pouting “ 😂😂😂😂
The "one bad game" QBR comparison just about did me in 😂😂 I'm like Shannon: "Really, Skip?? That's what we doing?" 😂😂😂😂 This man Skip is something else lol.
@@pheonixcom Gotta remind people it's an argumentation based show, they need to be at odds with each other - otherwise the show gets boring. Skip does pretty well given the hard angle he has to defend.
100%. People act like he joined a dumpster fire in TB when he joined a team that went 7-9, with 6 of those losses by one score or less, with a QB who turned it over 35 times. When Tom wins he gets no help, when he loses his teammates let him down. Frustrating.
Madison Sipie, You know that was my "DEBATE" last Sunday. These "DIVA QUARTERBACKS". When their picked off, they tend to blame the person who's supposed to catch the ball , even the TWO FACED COMMENTATORS blame whomever the Quarterback say it is. NO boo, the receiver didn't throw it you did MR.QUARTERBACK
He should go act in movies then. It’s a shame there are no longer any true sports debate shows because the “analyst” on every show is trying to gain popularity; often sacrificing logic when developing their takes for the purpose of getting certain reactions from an audience.
@@three-eyedbro Boy Im Glad Someone Is Seeing How Bad Sports TV Is Now. I Miss The OG ESPN. With Chris Berman & Stuart Scott Types Who Had No Bias Or Let Their Feelings Effevt Covering The Sports Properly
Arguably a top 5 defensive play of all time - skip “gotta have a little defense” bruh😭😂 Brady ain’t on that goal line. You can give brady credit for his rings all you want but you gotta give credit to those who helped him along the way
@@Jdot2tact bruh you obviously never read a book before 2018 and that may even be a stretch, I said defensive PLAY of all time not a top 5 overall defense😂 and you wanna argue that too go check the nfl top 100 plays of all time list and see where this ranks😐
Plus Rodgers s starting OL was supposed to be Bakhtiary(missed 14games) Jenkins(missed 6games) Meyers(missed 9games) Newman(didn’t miss a game) Turner(missed 2games) He is playing behind 4 backups: Nijman Runyan Patrick Kelly Also doesent have his TE Tonyan The injury point that Skipp tried to make was ridiculous
Shannon ran him in a corner on this one. Had me rolling at the end, “Im glad you brought that up”....gone head and start playing that ‘oh no’ til too 😂
Aaron Rodgers 30 TDs and 2 INTs since. Week 1 lost. number 1 seed. only lost one other time(didn’t play Chiefs game), and in his loss threw 4 TDs…leads Brady in yards per attempt, QBR, passer rating, TD:INT ratio and wins. so probably that.
You’re telling me Brady has 161 more attempts than Aaron? That’s the equivalent of playing 4-5 extra games, and yet the fact that Aaron’s numbers are on par, if not better in most categories than Brady’s is simply astounding, if you honestly think Aaron isn’t MVP I can’t help you.
Ehh Peyton did that many times and won MVP those years as well. That said I agree, this MVP race is extremely close and Rodgers seems to be trending as the MVP if he keeps this up for another 3 weeks.
Skip's argument is like an MLB hitter with 160 hits with .275 average on 600 plate at bats deserves MVP over a guy who has 150 hits with .325 average on 450 at bats
I still think you can make an argument for Jonathon Taylor, especially if he gets to 2000 yards, that man is just about single handedly dragging the colts to the playoffs as a running back, and he has had none of the issues that Brady and Rodgers have had
Bruh my mans Skip just got BURNED in this segment 😭😂😂 The QBR comparison of both against dem Saints was the funniest thing I've heard all month and he made it sound like a real argument Hahahaha
@@henrysmart6854 fr. Ravens cant play from behind and they cant win when they dont run for 100+ yards. If you stack the box and put your most athletic LB as a spy their whole offense unfolds
Yeah the Ravens got hit hard this year and I am a steelers fan. I knew it was going to be hard for you guys this year, from Traning camp losing all your RB's Def. backfield etc.. Skip is very bias and tries to twist things into his thinking..
@@marcelsgold nah that is not coach of the year.. Remember Tomlin had us completive without out Big Ben and almost make the playoffs, we had 2 crummy backups and we still do.
Buccaneers win vs bad team with Brady throwing for 400+ and 4 TD, Shannon gives him a C cuz "Skip this defence is bad". Same team beaten by Mahones or Rodgers with less numbers on their side and he gives them A's. Sure he's not a hater. Rodgers the best thrower of the football has just 1 ring, goes to show talent alone won't do it, won't make you the greatest.
@@teodorascudragos or alternatively, it’s a team sport. 52 man roster. I highly highly doubt 1 man can just carry that to the promised land. You can carry to a point, making up for some shortcomings, but you really can’t be a 1-man army in the NFL. Citation off hand: Dan Marino.
@@Maze86753 and Brady will be first to say that. Never heard him take all the credit, always heard him praise his teammates. Shannon hates Brady, Skip same when it comes to Mahones or Rodgers. I was expecting Shannon to be more objective.
@@teodorascudragos Yea its just an interesting dynamic that Brady gets praise from the fans and media as the sole arbiter of good fortune to a football team even knowing what he typically says during press conferences. Also important to highlight, I don't think any of the all time greats have really taken sole credit for all success in a franchise in... a long time if not ever? Its just too easy to cycle out, so if Brady (theorhetically) wanted all the credit, he'd be subtle about it until retirement or HOF induction imo. But yea to see Shannon be right with the wrong reasons is a little annoying to see.
“I’ve never said Brady is a great role mode” here I am after listening to skip say Brady is the greatest leader in the history of sports for the last 10 years😂😂😂
I used to be a TB fan also but got turned off by how much of a Crybaby he is. When your the best you dont cry you just think how your going to get them back.
I love Shannon sharpe calling skip on his bias. I’m a Tom Brady fan but skip is ridiculous sometimes and Shannon is the best sports analyst out there today. Perfect counter for skip
You know Sharpe has Skip on the ropes when he pulls the childish "it's MY turn!" nonsense. Yet he will interject into Sharpe's argument on EVERY topic. Typical Skip "its my party and I'll cry if I want to" Bayless. And Sharpe thinks that turning on his bullhorn makes him right. These two are a comedy show that happens to debate about LeBron, Brady, Cowboys and sometimes others.
It is a TV show and skip is the ultimate troll most of the time he was right about some things just like Shannon is right about some things but he was completely wrong on this
Shannon was more childish here and had less of an argument tbh. Jonathan Taylor is easily more deserving than both of them. They need the next three weeks to separate themselves because they're equally deserving/undeserving
No disrespect but they both have ghost writers on set topics but Shannon is great off script & Skip cant keep up 😂( notice how he keeps looking at his notes)
@@slimhardaway8 Nah he still can recall certain plays and how the ball was exactly thrown and the time stamps of the game. You can tell me still studies the game just off how detailed he talks.
Looool I knew this segment was gonna be real good real funny, especially how the show opened😂 Unc said “Your guy did him one better, he scored zero points” lmao Skip “Mmhmm”😅… Love this show, they chemistry is great and it always come back to laughs and love in the end💯…... And to everyone all around the world, Happy Holiday’s🎄⭐️stay safe stay blessed always 🙏🏽✨🙏🏽✨🙏🏽✝️
I think Brady will bounce back, play well, and get the MVP. While I think Rogers is objectively the best QB in football, I think Brady is most VALUABLE to his team. so is Rodgers, Taylor, Mahommes , Jackson, etc. But ever since TB got to TB, Brady, one man, has turned that franchise around. Also I think the covid thing with Rodgers could be the issue that puts a 50/50 race in Brady's favor.
Ya it wasn’t amusing, its how Shannon n Skip always mix realness n have sense of humour at times, which keeps the show balanced & going💯.. know the difference 🤔
Being a Bucs fan.... Damn it Shannon is right.... Skip will defend but the thing is Shannon uses Skips logics that Skip uses to diminish Roger's... I have to give the knod to Roger's right now
I don’t care about the tantrum. Rodgers has just outplayed Brady, especially after that bad of a Bucs’ loss. We saw what the Packers are without Rodgers. That game against KC showed his value.
@@truboxingnews7770 BUCCS D played so rough that day yo, it was so bad I had to pull my phone out and record some evidence of it ...but Buccs fans won't admit that
i'm curious if the mvp voters will prefer Brady running up his numbers against awful opponents over the clearly greater value Aaron provides to the packers
How about the award going to the actual most valuable player on a team. Guys like Cooper Kupp, Jonathan Taylor. They've both been carrying their teams.
Skip when Tom Brady has a temper tantrum: “PSYCHO TOM RAGE TO WIN” Skip when Odell has a temper tantrum: “He’s immature, he puts himself above the team, blah blah blah” Skip says he’s not trying to defend it he’s trying to define it but how come he’s never defined it that way for other players? Not to mention the fact that skip has always used the term psycho Tom in a positive way so he for sure is trying to defend Brady.
@@joeljohnson6137 success, obj is a failure in the NFL for his talent. Tom maximizes it. OBJ has shown is immaturity and lack of drive to win, Tom embodies hard work and earned his respect. But that doesnt matter.
@@littlemongol9035 lol yeah okay one plays qb and has the ball in his hands the entire time and another only catches the ball when the qb gets it to him. And considering the fact that he only played with an aging Eli Manning and baker mayfield (and still put up the numbers he did) I’d say that’s a good amount of success. This is the only real season we can measure obj based on team success because he’s on a good team with a competent qb.
@@JoshDennyAltAccount im not talking about team success, but be honest, do you think obj maximized his talent in the nfl. Was he working as hard as he can, like not going on a short vacay before a playoff game. Was he training hard and building a connection with his qbs? Do yoi honestly think what obj showed was his best, or was there wasted potential.
Tampa’s defense was really the reason they went on that run to the Super Bowl last year but all we heard was how Brady took the Bucs & taught them the “Patriot Way” & how Belichick was an overrated coach etc. It’s always anything to build up the legacy of Brady, Skip doesn’t give any other player that benefit. Just like he mentioned the Packers should’ve lost if AJ Green catches the ball, you can say the same about the Seahawks not running the ball on the one yard line with a running back who’s nickname was “Beastmode”
@@Hinshu85 The defense got turnovers which lead to short fields for the offense or they forced other teams to punt backup in their own territory due to the Bucs front 4 getting sacks/pressure on the QB……
Bruh any defense Would love to have a offense that scores 30 plus a game in playoffs idc how good your defense is if your offense doesn't score worth a damn you can't win any games and this past Sunday against the saints is a prime example of that
The tantrum? No. The way he played? Absolutely. No one should take your attitude into effect of how u perform. Look at AB. On the field, Pro Bowl WR, could potentially be a HoF if not one already. Off the field, probably one of the worst people to work for 😂, probably not a bad person but not paying people for their services is pretty bad.
@@ceebee8042 sounds like every businessman ever then? They've all went bankrupt like 15 times. That's probably the dumbest thing to use to measure unsuccessfulness.
Cee Bee Trump Derangement Syndrome is a very real thing and you’re obviously suffering from it.I usually don’t make light of peoples disabilities but can’t help but😂🤣😂whenever I come across someone suffering this condition.....
Brady has far way more help than Rodgers lol why is this even a debate Evans. Godwin, AB, Gronk, Lenny and 3 Pro Bowl O linemen compared to Jones, Dillon and Davante lol
Is that why none of them made the pro bowl 😂😂😂😂 Speak facts not fiction. Now did he play terrible the other night yes, partially not his fault at the beginning with front dropping just about everything thrown his way but they’ve been historically bad against the saints for what ever reason, they’ll be fine come playoffs
@@stevensantos4225 1. It doesn't matter if they made it this year or not, they've made it in the past. 2. They had to sacrifice for each other so they would have a better team record. It's not about personal stats with this team. Brady chose this team because of all the great talent on offense. He even recruited AB, Gronk and Fournette to make this great offense better.
Rodgers is a smart guy he is based af. Skip doesn't understand that. And separately, forgot Brady is going up there on the scoreboard and changing numbers, that's how he got 7, got it.
Brady could bomb the rest of the season and do nothing and he is still the GOAT. There is no debate at this point. Once he passed Montana conversation was over.
@@jamescash887 lmao! It does matter because the entire topic/discussion is about the mvp race not who’s the goat. Since you know Brady is losing that race/argument so far you resorted to bringing up who the goat is. Are you that much of a sore loser too?
@@robbier3785 has nothing to do with me. I just said Rogers should be MVP. Guess you weren’t paying attention. You are taking this way to personal bud.
I just don’t get how skip is so delusional…Brady has been playing most of the year with 3 probowl receivers and a pro bowl tight end…how are packers receivers way better?
Is Skip auditioning for Brady's BFF? It's the only way to explain this level of delusion. Shannon is right. Brady gets all of the credit and none of the blame.
When TB defense shut down Mahomes I just heard Brady Brady Brady same with TB wrs after the catch an TB running backs.. No one even talked abt Brady line that protected him excellent..
My brain hurts. So, if Lynch scored the TD on the final play of that Super Bowl, Brady still would have won the game because of his stats before the final play????
@@PowerPackers90 I disagree. Once he passed Montana it didn’t matter when he did it. Montana was considered GOAT QB before Brady. Brady been to 10 SB and let say he only won 6. That is still a 60% win percentage which makes him the GOAT. Consider this, most QB in the NFL will never sniff a SB.
Shannon got'em this time!!! You can tell Shannon was waiting so long for skip to say Tampa got the #1 offense. 1. Your guy got the # 1 offense ,score more points and yards but my guy got the #14 offense lost less games and is currently the #1 seed!!! 2. Against new orleans: My guy only had a hundred something yards Your guy couldn't even get them in field goal range once " THE WHOLE GAME"!!!!
6:15 WTF?!?! Skip’s delusion is ridiculous. TB12 has had Evans, Godwin, Gronk, AB, & Fournette as his weapons. ARod has only had Adams & Jones who’s been inconsistent all season. Yet ARod’s team is in first place & he has a better QBR…😂😂😂
He hasn’t had a better QBR until this game. And he has a better team this year because of injuries. Rodgers actually played worse against the Saints, and hasn’t looked particularly great all year. I get not giving it to Brady, but Matthew Stafford and JT deserve it more if they win out. It’s a shame Baltimore got decimated because Lamar was something special early in the season.
This type of back & forth right here is exactly why we all love this show... Every segment UNK & Skip both say stuff that ii agree wit lol , so by tha end of tha show I'm always on tha fence about who won!¡!¡ It's usually UNK tho 😂🤣
I love you both Mr. Shannon and Skip love you both on y'all debates on football games and the players sports Etc. I enjoy watching you two you are the best 🥰
You have to be disqualified from MVP consideration if you get blanked in a game… The tantrum doesn’t even need to be factored into that at all… It’d be the same if an MVP candidate went 5 games in the NBA without getting a single stat…
Because they aren’t really debating,they are like 2 brothers trolling each other but neither one can knock the other one out in a real debate,but yes it is very entertaining 🤣
i mean, both rodgers and brady had AWFUL games against the saints... rodgers was arguably worse. so they kind of cancel each other out to a degree. it's probably going to come down to who finishes the season stronger and with the injuries tampa just got... probably rodgers.
Lol so we gon throw out the games Rodgers played with no Wr and beat the undefeated cards and last week with no o line stop Rodgers has been better and more valuable and beat the better teams it’s not even close
Shannon, YOU WON THAT DEBATE!!!! It wasn’t even close, Skip contradicts himself with every breath he spoke. Keep it coming Shannon and please don’t stop presenting the ACTUAL REALITY of the comparison between these 2 Great Quarterbacks.
People literally called Cam selfish for celebrating on his first touchdown back in Carolina for doing the Superman talking about he made it about himself instead of celebrating with his team lol. Man literally can't do anything without people trying to start stuff.
You can tell skip came up with this topic and the title 😅😅 Edit, it's been years and I still can't get enough of these two going at it on this show, this show is instant CLASSIC I find myself saving some of these segments to my favorite videos tab just cause I know I gotta come back and see em
Shannon has always been a better realist in these debates.. he’s earned my respect these last few years and shown me that the philosophy of an athlete is something that shouldn’t be so easily dismissed by anyone… the tragedy of a bloated ego often trumpets from the “journalist” point of view of Skip’s side of the table.
@@zaaayyyy23 so the fact that Brady won 3 Super Bowls after Shannon was saying he was done didn’t change the facts?? What are you smoking. Shannon is a Brady hater and we all know it
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Skip is laughable in this segment. Sounds like somebody that knows nothing about football.
"Immunization" happens when you're a child, it's a term from childhood , he didn't lie , but can't expect media honesty, when a definition has been changed twice within a year
I don’t hate Brady. I like Brady. I hate listening to skip talk about Brady or anything Brady related. He is intolerable when it come to Brady. Brady is skips god and it shows every time there is a segment about him on the show
Shannon is gonna have a heart attack one of these days
The hate Slip has for Aaron Rodgers and LeBron James is beyond me, I just don't get it
I’m not even going to lie, Shannon tore skip up this segment 🤣🤣🤣
that ain’t nothing new😂😂😂
*Ever segment*
That’s every segment lol
Every segment
Why would you lie though? Plus, skip never wins
Imagine not getting a taunting penalty for saying what Tom did, but getting one for staring at a sideline.
cuz he ain’t have nothing to taunt about🤣gotta be up or in momentum to be taunting🤣🤣🤣i get what u saying tho fr
@@paulsmith5803 yea taunting is only technically initiated if the said taunter makes a positive gain or has a significant lead the bucs only scored 0 points so Brady therefore couldn’t even taunt more like “ pouting “ 😂😂😂😂
@@vlon3lyboiii666 💀
It’s Tom Brady
@@vlon3lyboiii666 damn you and Paul Smith put some perspective on that!!
Tom Brady chewed out the Saints Defense coach for doing his job. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How dare u hold Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr to 0 points?!
Nah for throwing low hits on his team
Tom baby
@@jasonbushaw759 Damn so the GOAT can’t lead the receivers out of harms way??
@@quintenpalmer76 where is ya ring last year oh wait… Tom baby is wearing it.
I never seen a man take so many L’s in one argument. Rip to Skip
😂😂😂 they coming down like rain drops
every day
Skip took a whole lot of L’s When the bucks beat the nets last year in the playoffs
In my Shaq voice, “Hey Underdog, “PUT THAT ON A T-SHIRT!”
Shannon sharpe be like, I still own youuuuu skip bayless
Shannon: Did Malcom Butler did not pick the ball up off in the end zone.
Skip: Yeah.
Shannon: Ok
“Thought it was my turn” is Skip’s way to keep avoiding to hear how right Shannon is
That’s exactly what it is 😂
Skip knows he got absolutely destroyed in this debate🤣
Shannon is the star of this show
Destroyed?? 😂 Shannon was yelling like a fool the entire time despite the stats
Par for the course between these two.
Why are you so angry?
Shannon got destroyed when Lebron got blown out by the Spurs.
The "one bad game" QBR comparison just about did me in 😂😂 I'm like Shannon: "Really, Skip?? That's what we doing?" 😂😂😂😂 This man Skip is something else lol.
His performance did him in and nothing else.
Skip is a hater and Brady cheerleader , this why a lot of these pro athletes cant stand him and would never give him a interview
@@pheonixcom Gotta remind people it's an argumentation based show, they need to be at odds with each other - otherwise the show gets boring. Skip does pretty well given the hard angle he has to defend.
It's just fun that Tom Brady is now Skips guy when Skip said he was done in 2006
He did that because Shannon talked about Brady's bad game 😂 If you do that and Rodgers had a worse game against the same opponent...
I'm with Shannon on this. If Cam Newton, Odell, Patrick Mahomes ever did that would be vilified and penalized.
The last 10 years are irrelevant to this season bruh
They aren't Tom, duh
Did u realize what all those guys had in common im just saying shannon is absolutely correct with his comparison
It’s because he’s a white man bruh. That simple.
@@thisisnotkevo Exactly. That's why he's the only one allowed to throw hissy fits.
"When tom looses its everyone elses fault when he wins you dint give anyone else any credit"
Facts bro
100%. People act like he joined a dumpster fire in TB when he joined a team that went 7-9, with 6 of those losses by one score or less, with a QB who turned it over 35 times. When Tom wins he gets no help, when he loses his teammates let him down. Frustrating.
@@Matt-cr4vv And Tom ADDED Gronk, AB, and Fornette to an already potent roster.
Madison Sipie,
You know that was my "DEBATE" last Sunday. These "DIVA QUARTERBACKS". When their picked off, they tend to blame the person who's supposed to catch the ball , even the TWO FACED COMMENTATORS blame whomever the Quarterback say it is. NO boo, the receiver didn't throw it you did MR.QUARTERBACK
@@Matt-cr4vv lol yall care too much..guess what, we are celebrating in TB with a superbowl ..love it !!
@@Speedyreedy1218 cope
Skip is an amazing actor man can see why he's had so much success on tv
He's the greatest troll analyst of all time
😂😂😂
He should go act in movies then. It’s a shame there are no longer any true sports debate shows because the “analyst” on every show is trying to gain popularity; often sacrificing logic when developing their takes for the purpose of getting certain reactions from an audience.
@@christianw935 1000%
@@three-eyedbro Boy Im Glad Someone Is Seeing How Bad Sports TV Is Now. I Miss The OG ESPN. With Chris Berman & Stuart Scott Types Who Had No Bias Or Let Their Feelings Effevt Covering The Sports Properly
Arguably a top 5 defensive play of all time - skip “gotta have a little defense” bruh😭😂 Brady ain’t on that goal line. You can give brady credit for his rings all you want but you gotta give credit to those who helped him along the way
They ain’t no where near close to a top 5 defense ever. You obviously never watched the nfl before 2018
@@Jdot2tact Butler saved Brady tho
@@Jdot2tact bruh you obviously never read a book before 2018 and that may even be a stretch, I said defensive PLAY of all time not a top 5 overall defense😂 and you wanna argue that too go check the nfl top 100 plays of all time list and see where this ranks😐
@@Jdot2tact look again he didn't say that mate he said defensive PLAYS of all time, not defensive teams.
@@samuraifinn794 It's okay his name is cap. That's all he may know how to do..
Aaron has Adams, and tbh he is the best in the nfl - but that’s one guy. Brady had Evans, AB, Godwin and Gronk.
Skip needs to stop it
Plus Rodgers s starting OL was supposed to be Bakhtiary(missed 14games) Jenkins(missed 6games) Meyers(missed 9games) Newman(didn’t miss a game) Turner(missed 2games)
He is playing behind 4 backups: Nijman Runyan Patrick Kelly
Also doesent have his TE Tonyan
The injury point that Skipp tried to make was ridiculous
He also has Fournette who was headed for a 1,000 yard season before his injury and Jones who nearly 1,000 yards last year
Didn’t 3 of that 4 get hurt in that one saints game? Kinda throws a wrench in the mix.
Shannon ran him in a corner on this one. Had me rolling at the end, “Im glad you brought that up”....gone head and start playing that ‘oh no’ til too 😂
Straight up destroyed skip on this one 😂
You gotta love how Skip gets Shannon all riled up. A masterclass in gaslighting.
@@RickKoeppen narcissist I know his wife sick
Lol right tho
They never bring up Shannon’s arguments for Peyton or Brees, especially Brees
you know skip is losing the debate when he starts saying “is it my turn still?” lol
I don’t find that amusing
Aaron Rodgers 30 TDs and 2 INTs since. Week 1 lost. number 1 seed. only lost one other time(didn’t play Chiefs game), and in his loss threw 4 TDs…leads Brady in yards per attempt, QBR, passer rating, TD:INT ratio and wins. so probably that.
great..no one cares..superbowl wins matter..we had one last year and loved it
You’re telling me Brady has 161 more attempts than Aaron? That’s the equivalent of playing 4-5 extra games, and yet the fact that Aaron’s numbers are on par, if not better in most categories than Brady’s is simply astounding, if you honestly think Aaron isn’t MVP I can’t help you.
Ehh Peyton did that many times and won MVP those years as well. That said I agree, this MVP race is extremely close and Rodgers seems to be trending as the MVP if he keeps this up for another 3 weeks.
Skip's argument is like an MLB hitter with 160 hits with .275 average on 600 plate at bats deserves MVP over a guy who has 150 hits with .325 average on 450 at bats
@trump2024 H jeez no need to wish death upon someone.
Packers also have a better run game.
No one brought these arguments up for Peyton or Brees.
I still think you can make an argument for Jonathon Taylor, especially if he gets to 2000 yards, that man is just about single handedly dragging the colts to the playoffs as a running back, and he has had none of the issues that Brady and Rodgers have had
2:40 Sharpe killed skip with this, everything skip says after this just doesn’t matter
Yep straight BODIED!
Bruh my mans Skip just got BURNED in this segment 😭😂😂 The QBR comparison of both against dem Saints was the funniest thing I've heard all month and he made it sound like a real argument Hahahaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I almost passed out after he read the numbera
Lmao Skip acting like he really did something with that had me cracking up man.
As a Ravens fan, it’s infuriating to hear Skip call the Bucs “Decimated” by injuries. 😂😂 Child please 😂😂
Facts. Our whole team injured
Harbaugh is a magician to have them competitive - Coach of the Year?
@@henrysmart6854 fr. Ravens cant play from behind and they cant win when they dont run for 100+ yards. If you stack the box and put your most athletic LB as a spy their whole offense unfolds
Yeah the Ravens got hit hard this year and I am a steelers fan. I knew it was going to be hard for you guys this year, from Traning camp losing all your RB's Def. backfield etc.. Skip is very bias and tries to twist things into his thinking..
@@marcelsgold nah that is not coach of the year.. Remember Tomlin had us completive without out Big Ben and almost make the playoffs, we had 2 crummy backups and we still do.
Skip STOP giving excuses to Brady when he does a bad job. It’s getting old.
You should tell Shannon the same thing with mahomes and Rodgers sometimes he criticized them but the majority of times he makes excuses for them
Buccaneers win vs bad team with Brady throwing for 400+ and 4 TD, Shannon gives him a C cuz "Skip this defence is bad".
Same team beaten by Mahones or Rodgers with less numbers on their side and he gives them A's.
Sure he's not a hater.
Rodgers the best thrower of the football has just 1 ring, goes to show talent alone won't do it, won't make you the greatest.
@@teodorascudragos or alternatively, it’s a team sport. 52 man roster. I highly highly doubt 1 man can just carry that to the promised land. You can carry to a point, making up for some shortcomings, but you really can’t be a 1-man army in the NFL.
Citation off hand: Dan Marino.
@@Maze86753 and Brady will be first to say that. Never heard him take all the credit, always heard him praise his teammates.
Shannon hates Brady, Skip same when it comes to Mahones or Rodgers.
I was expecting Shannon to be more objective.
@@teodorascudragos Yea its just an interesting dynamic that Brady gets praise from the fans and media as the sole arbiter of good fortune to a football team even knowing what he typically says during press conferences.
Also important to highlight, I don't think any of the all time greats have really taken sole credit for all success in a franchise in... a long time if not ever? Its just too easy to cycle out, so if Brady (theorhetically) wanted all the credit, he'd be subtle about it until retirement or HOF induction imo.
But yea to see Shannon be right with the wrong reasons is a little annoying to see.
“I’ve never said Brady is a great role mode” here I am after listening to skip say Brady is the greatest leader in the history of sports for the last 10 years😂😂😂
I used to be a big Brady fan but not so much anymore. He does get special treatment refs look the other way with him no doubt about it.
@@leemoore9933 ur not a fan because refs treat him diferent ?
i think he can be a leader n his locker and on field but not a role model outside of it. ex.. LT , big ben , shawn merriman , old mike vick , .
I used to be a TB fan also but got turned off by how much of a Crybaby he is. When your the best you dont cry you just think how your going to get them back.
@@16sshotz Vick did his time! And Big Ben is a man of GOD now😂 First name that comes to mind for me is Ray Lewis
Skip has really been using hypotheticals for his arguments lately dude cracks me up 😂
This was by far one of the best Takes Shannon has ever taken!!! Proud of you bruh bout time!!!💯👏🏽
Naw Not True!! Yeah it was one of his best ethers but Shay have gotten Skip a lot of times if you’ve watched Undisputed since day 1
@@uptbo2025 facts
Skip barely wins arguments lmao , he argues off his feelings towards the player not what they actually do.
I love Shannon sharpe calling skip on his bias. I’m a Tom Brady fan but skip is ridiculous sometimes and Shannon is the best sports analyst out there today. Perfect counter for skip
I'd love to see Shannon and Acho have their own show
You know Sharpe has Skip on the ropes when he pulls the childish "it's MY turn!" nonsense. Yet he will interject into Sharpe's argument on EVERY topic. Typical Skip "its my party and I'll cry if I want to" Bayless.
And Sharpe thinks that turning on his bullhorn makes him right. These two are a comedy show that happens to debate about LeBron, Brady, Cowboys and sometimes others.
Yes every single time
Except Shannon is usually right…
@@goofy_xf6223 I agree 100%. Skip moves the goalposts all over the place to fit his narrative.
It is a TV show and skip is the ultimate troll most of the time he was right about some things just like Shannon is right about some things but he was completely wrong on this
Shannon was more childish here and had less of an argument tbh. Jonathan Taylor is easily more deserving than both of them. They need the next three weeks to separate themselves because they're equally deserving/undeserving
Shannon does his homework. One of the best out there now 👍🏽
No disrespect but they both have ghost writers on set topics but Shannon is great off script & Skip cant keep up 😂( notice how he keeps looking at his notes)
@@slimhardaway8 Nah he still can recall certain plays and how the ball was exactly thrown and the time stamps of the game. You can tell me still studies the game just off how detailed he talks.
@@AnimeVSRankings i just said that
Skip- "Yep, Green Bay's is a little bit better".
UNC- "NOPE, ALOTTA BIT BETTER"!!!!😂🤣😂🤣😂
Looool I knew this segment was gonna be real good real funny, especially how the show opened😂 Unc said “Your guy did him one better, he scored zero points” lmao Skip “Mmhmm”😅… Love this show, they chemistry is great and it always come back to laughs and love in the end💯…... And to everyone all around the world, Happy Holiday’s🎄⭐️stay safe stay blessed always 🙏🏽✨🙏🏽✨🙏🏽✝️
Same to you! Peace and blessings!
I think Brady will bounce back, play well, and get the MVP. While I think Rogers is objectively the best QB in football, I think Brady is most VALUABLE to his team. so is Rodgers, Taylor, Mahommes , Jackson, etc. But ever since TB got to TB, Brady, one man, has turned that franchise around.
Also I think the covid thing with Rodgers could be the issue that puts a 50/50 race in Brady's favor.
I don’t see how y’all find that amusing
@Bradford K Thank you! Merry Christmas all the best to you🎄⭐️✝️
Ya it wasn’t amusing, its how Shannon n Skip always mix realness n have sense of humour at times, which keeps the show balanced & going💯.. know the difference 🤔
Being a Bucs fan.... Damn it Shannon is right.... Skip will defend but the thing is Shannon uses Skips logics that Skip uses to diminish Roger's... I have to give the knod to Roger's right now
Skip "double standard" bayless
I don’t care about the tantrum. Rodgers has just outplayed Brady, especially after that bad of a Bucs’ loss. We saw what the Packers are without Rodgers. That game against KC showed his value.
💯💯💯
You think Rodgers keeps the same energy in the playoffs? I doubt it
@@metalgeartrusty who cares about playoffs when talking about the regular season MVP award?
Literally no one because it’s a regular season award.
@@ecpracticesquad4674 i do, thats why i commented rofl.
@@metalgeartrusty because you’re an idiot, apparently, who doesn’t know the post season has nothing to do with the regular season. 🤣😂
Skip got smoked
Actually, Green bay played a tougher saints. The Saints were decimated by injuries in both outings.
And they crying about hits when the dirty shoulder pad tackle on jamis
@@truboxingnews7770 BUCCS D played so rough that day yo, it was so bad I had to pull my phone out and record some evidence of it ...but Buccs fans won't admit that
Exactly my saints have been in the beginning and still is and we are still balling
@@truboxingnews7770 thank yh thank yh...
i'm curious if the mvp voters will prefer Brady running up his numbers against awful opponents over the clearly greater value Aaron provides to the packers
Skip NEVER BRINGS THIS UP.
As if Rodgers hasn't benefited from beating bad teams 😂
How about the award going to the actual most valuable player on a team. Guys like Cooper Kupp, Jonathan Taylor. They've both been carrying their teams.
Rodgers faces some bad teams too but Brady had the way easier schedule
Bucs
6-0 against incompetence coaching staff and roster
4-4 against competent coaching staff and roster
Skip’s comparison of Aaron’s bad game vs Tom’s is the reason why he’s nothing but a casual.
Skip when Tom Brady has a temper tantrum: “PSYCHO TOM RAGE TO WIN”
Skip when Odell has a temper tantrum:
“He’s immature, he puts himself above the team, blah blah blah”
Skip says he’s not trying to defend it he’s trying to define it but how come he’s never defined it that way for other players? Not to mention the fact that skip has always used the term psycho Tom in a positive way so he for sure is trying to defend Brady.
Favoritism
@@joeljohnson6137 success, obj is a failure in the NFL for his talent. Tom maximizes it. OBJ has shown is immaturity and lack of drive to win, Tom embodies hard work and earned his respect. But that doesnt matter.
This is the same guy who claimed Aaron stole his 2nd MVP from TONY ROMO due to Anti-Cowboy bias and "faking" an injury in a game.
@@littlemongol9035 lol yeah okay one plays qb and has the ball in his hands the entire time and another only catches the ball when the qb gets it to him. And considering the fact that he only played with an aging Eli Manning and baker mayfield (and still put up the numbers he did) I’d say that’s a good amount of success. This is the only real season we can measure obj based on team success because he’s on a good team with a competent qb.
@@JoshDennyAltAccount im not talking about team success, but be honest, do you think obj maximized his talent in the nfl. Was he working as hard as he can, like not going on a short vacay before a playoff game. Was he training hard and building a connection with his qbs? Do yoi honestly think what obj showed was his best, or was there wasted potential.
The Packers also defeated The Rams and Washington, two teams that The Bucs weren't able to defeat.
Packers also beat an undefeated Arizona team on the road on a short week missing tons of starters.
Tampa’s defense was really the reason they went on that run to the Super Bowl last year but all we heard was how Brady took the Bucs & taught them the “Patriot Way” & how Belichick was an overrated coach etc. It’s always anything to build up the legacy of Brady, Skip doesn’t give any other player that benefit.
Just like he mentioned the Packers should’ve lost if AJ Green catches the ball, you can say the same about the Seahawks not running the ball on the one yard line with a running back who’s nickname was “Beastmode”
Everyone with a brain knew it was the defense
The offense scored 30 in every game
So, them scoring more points than their opponent had nothing to do with it?
@@Hinshu85 The defense got turnovers which lead to short fields for the offense or they forced other teams to punt backup in their own territory due to the Bucs front 4 getting sacks/pressure on the QB……
Bruh any defense Would love to have a offense that scores 30 plus a game in playoffs idc how good your defense is if your offense doesn't score worth a damn you can't win any games and this past Sunday against the saints is a prime example of that
Skip hurt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
His entire argument is dumb… Shannon killed him
The tantrum? No. The way he played? Absolutely. No one should take your attitude into effect of how u perform. Look at AB. On the field, Pro Bowl WR, could potentially be a HoF if not one already. Off the field, probably one of the worst people to work for 😂, probably not a bad person but not paying people for their services is pretty bad.
They still mention that Rodgers "lied"
Sounds likeTrump and his 7 bankruptcies.
@@ceebee8042 sounds like every businessman ever then? They've all went bankrupt like 15 times. That's probably the dumbest thing to use to measure unsuccessfulness.
@@theeunknown3988 dem be some horrible businessmen, then
Cee Bee Trump Derangement Syndrome is a very real thing and you’re obviously suffering from it.I usually don’t make light of peoples disabilities but can’t help but😂🤣😂whenever I come across someone suffering this condition.....
Brady has far way more help than Rodgers lol why is this even a debate
Evans. Godwin, AB, Gronk, Lenny and 3 Pro Bowl O linemen
compared to
Jones, Dillon and Davante lol
Skips agenda is nasty 😂😂😭😭
Debating Brady with Skip is like playing tennis without the net
It's like chasing wind
I've never imagined playing tennis without the net, but this would be a nonstop back and forth lol
So a good time?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🎯
2:45 that was a smooth comeback by Shannon
Skip is always moving the goal post when he's defending his guy lol
Skip: "The Bucs will go 20-0 and win the super bowl"
TB will probably not make it to the Super Bowl. There’s just too many good teams this year.
@@David25522 they'll find a way to rig the Bucs games so they can make it
@@phataguilar7096 how's that theory working out for you
Damn 30 seconds in and Shannon already bodied skip 😂😂😂
If that was one of Shannon's guys Skip Bayless would be killing him but somehow it's competition from Brady 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Skip is a real hater
If it was LeBron “Why is the phony GOAT pouting on the sidelines?” 😂🤣
@@tbates2906 I heard Skip reading that to me 🤣🤣🤣
This is why I only watch this at night, I would lose my job staying at home watching Undisputed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol Ong me too I be waiting on undisputed like church errday...and manee I feel u..
Skip just got cooked on this segment
"I'm not trying to defend it" as he defends it the whole segment. lol
Aaron Rodgers only bad game was the season opener 😂 Skip really trying to hold that against him
Rodgers has 1 pro bowl receiver in Adams.
Brady has 4 pro bowl receivers in Gronk, AB, Evans and Godwin.
Facts
Is that why none of them made the pro bowl 😂😂😂😂 Speak facts not fiction. Now did he play terrible the other night yes, partially not his fault at the beginning with front dropping just about everything thrown his way but they’ve been historically bad against the saints for what ever reason, they’ll be fine come playoffs
@@stevensantos4225
1. It doesn't matter if they made it this year or not, they've made it in the past.
2. They had to sacrifice for each other so they would have a better team record. It's not about personal stats with this team.
Brady chose this team because of all the great talent on offense. He even recruited AB, Gronk and Fournette to make this great offense better.
Skip bringing up Rodgers covid like Brady didn’t cheat over and over again🤣🤣🤣
Rodgers is a smart guy he is based af. Skip doesn't understand that. And separately, forgot Brady is going up there on the scoreboard and changing numbers, that's how he got 7, got it.
Skip is a great athlete look at how much mental gymnastics he does he does trying to get his point across 😂
30 tubs and 2 picks since week one is f-king GAWDLY
Gotta love these guys 🤣🤣 skip not letting Tom go out like that 😂😂😂
Brady could bomb the rest of the season and do nothing and he is still the GOAT. There is no debate at this point. Once he passed Montana conversation was over.
@@jamescash887 you’re that hurt that you gotta bring up goat debate when nobody is talking about that at all? Lmao!!
@@robbier3785 doesn’t matter. Dude is the GOAT no matter what. I do think Rogers is ahead of him for MVP now. Three games to go so we shall see.
@@jamescash887 lmao! It does matter because the entire topic/discussion is about the mvp race not who’s the goat. Since you know Brady is losing that race/argument so far you resorted to bringing up who the goat is. Are you that much of a sore loser too?
@@robbier3785 has nothing to do with me. I just said Rogers should be MVP. Guess you weren’t paying attention. You are taking this way to personal bud.
Shannon gave skip a beat down like no other dammn! 🤣
Shannon is spot on. Skip keeps being a hypocrite when it comes to his Brady/Jordan/Cowboys love and Bron hate
a tantrum won’t cost him the MVP, his performance will
I love how Skip always says Shannon loves PFF yet he's the one who always refers to it to make his points
He know Shannon don't like PFF he does it to get under his skin.
I just don’t get how skip is so delusional…Brady has been playing most of the year with 3 probowl receivers and a pro bowl tight end…how are packers receivers way better?
HALL OF FAME tight end.
@@goofy_xf6223 * GOAT TE
Exactly I can’t believe he said that. Like wtf! And he talks about Aaron Rodgers lying lol. There’s no way skip really believes that
Thank god someone finally said it. Brady had been padding his stats all year.
Shout out to my Saints for skull dragging the Pack and Bucs and being the case of this classic debate 🤣⚜️⚜️⚜️
lmaoooo Shannon schooled Skip today 🤣🤣🤣
Skip you got proved wrong OVER & OVER! I think Skip would sniff Tom's jock strap if he could. lol
Is Skip auditioning for Brady's BFF? It's the only way to explain this level of delusion. Shannon is right. Brady gets all of the credit and none of the blame.
When TB defense shut down Mahomes I just heard Brady Brady Brady same with TB wrs after the catch an TB running backs.. No one even talked abt Brady line that protected him excellent..
Nah, Skip is just playing a character. He doesn't care about being wrong, or "getting owned", as long as you're tuning in.
My brain hurts. So, if Lynch scored the TD on the final play of that Super Bowl, Brady still would have won the game because of his stats before the final play????
Wouldn’t have mattered Brady would still have 6 SB and be the GOAT. Anything after 5 was just icing on the cake.
@@jamescash887 you can’t say that because if they had lost that Super Bowl who knows where Brady could be right now.
@@goofy_xf6223 he still would have passed Montana regardless if he lost or not. Which would still make him the GOAT
@James Cash that would have been Brady 3rd straight SB lost and it would of been over a decade after his last win. his legacy would have took a hit.
@@PowerPackers90 I disagree. Once he passed Montana it didn’t matter when he did it. Montana was considered GOAT QB before Brady. Brady been to 10 SB and let say he only won 6. That is still a 60% win percentage which makes him the GOAT. Consider this, most QB in the NFL will never sniff a SB.
Skip is something else man lol. I know he did not make tampa seem like an average team
"14 to 18 qbr" 🤣🤣🤣
Shannon got'em this time!!!
You can tell Shannon was waiting so long for skip to say Tampa got the #1 offense.
1. Your guy got the # 1 offense ,score more points and yards but my guy got the #14 offense lost less games and is currently the #1 seed!!!
2. Against new orleans:
My guy only had a hundred something yards Your guy couldn't even get them in field goal range once " THE WHOLE GAME"!!!!
As a Bucs fan, the Saints OWN us!!! We have never had an answer for them. I absolutely HATED Tom, until we got him though.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jonathan Taylor for MVP
You know it’s about to be fire when Skip says “before I launch” 🚀🙌🏼
Nah skip just go on an excuse run for his favorite players when he say that but i agree it is entertaining
..and then nose dives and says a bunch of nothing.
@@mahbubmo But dude is living in the house that Diet Dew built.
Shannon destroyed Skip 😂
Skip is damn near delusional 💀💀💀💀
6:15 WTF?!?!
Skip’s delusion is ridiculous.
TB12 has had Evans, Godwin, Gronk, AB, & Fournette as his weapons.
ARod has only had Adams & Jones who’s been inconsistent all season.
Yet ARod’s team is in first place & he has a better QBR…😂😂😂
He hasn’t had a better QBR until this game. And he has a better team this year because of injuries. Rodgers actually played worse against the Saints, and hasn’t looked particularly great all year. I get not giving it to Brady, but Matthew Stafford and JT deserve it more if they win out. It’s a shame Baltimore got decimated because Lamar was something special early in the season.
@@joemagarac405 JT yeah but not Stafford ...
This type of back & forth right here is exactly why we all love this show... Every segment UNK & Skip both say stuff that ii agree wit lol , so by tha end of tha show I'm always on tha fence about who won!¡!¡ It's usually UNK tho 😂🤣
Shannon absolutely destroyed Skip lmaooo.
“BAH GAWD, SOMEBODY STOP THE MATCH, SHANNONS KILLING HIM”
I love you both Mr. Shannon and Skip love you both on y'all debates on football games and the players sports Etc. I enjoy watching you two you are the best 🥰
By the end, Shannon just feels sorry for Skip 😂
Skip was straight runnin like Floyd this whole segment 😂😂
Running like Floyd? The greatest defensive boxer ever? Who by the way would still put them hands on you while running 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yep 🤡
@@goofy_xf6223 He WAS running like Floyd but he wasn’t providing counter punches that actually hurt.
Oh Floyd ran
🤡🤡🤡🤡
You have to be disqualified from MVP consideration if you get blanked in a game… The tantrum doesn’t even need to be factored into that at all… It’d be the same if an MVP candidate went 5 games in the NBA without getting a single stat…
Watch it Skip and Shannon argue about the SAME exact topics for the last 5 years never gets old. 🤣🤣🤣
Because they aren’t really debating,they are like 2 brothers trolling each other but neither one can knock the other one out in a real debate,but yes it is very entertaining 🤣
i mean, both rodgers and brady had AWFUL games against the saints... rodgers was arguably worse. so they kind of cancel each other out to a degree. it's probably going to come down to who finishes the season stronger and with the injuries tampa just got... probably rodgers.
Lol so we gon throw out the games Rodgers played with no Wr and beat the undefeated cards and last week with no o line stop Rodgers has been better and more valuable and beat the better teams it’s not even close
@@daa_97 Tom has better stats, that matters
@@waterh20 he has better stats on way more attempts and Rodgers has still been better then him
@@waterh20 turnovers matter
@@thesneed02 age is irrelevant in the mvp race
Shannon, YOU WON THAT DEBATE!!!! It wasn’t even close, Skip contradicts himself with every breath he spoke. Keep it coming Shannon and please don’t stop presenting the ACTUAL REALITY of the comparison between these 2 Great Quarterbacks.
Shannon is 100 percent accurate, let that had been Cam, or Lamar Jackson and the media would crucify them.
People literally called Cam selfish for celebrating on his first touchdown back in Carolina for doing the Superman talking about he made it about himself instead of celebrating with his team lol. Man literally can't do anything without people trying to start stuff.
The media's crucifying Brady right now, you can literally find dozens of articles showing that, so your point?
You can tell skip came up with this topic and the title 😅😅
Edit, it's been years and I still can't get enough of these two going at it on this show, this show is instant CLASSIC I find myself saving some of these segments to my favorite videos tab just cause I know I gotta come back and see em
Shannon killing this man
Skip took a hard L on this
Brady stat padded like always last game, Rodgers was taken out in week 1 when the game was out of reach
Skip been tellin ppl that it was “Psycho Tom”…that corny stuff is all an act. That was the real Tom Brady there😂
This^^^^
Shannon has always been a better realist in these debates.. he’s earned my respect these last few years and shown me that the philosophy of an athlete is something that shouldn’t be so easily dismissed by anyone…
the tragedy of a bloated ego often trumpets from the “journalist” point of view of Skip’s side of the table.
It helps that he actually played the sport
"I'm not trying to defend him" JEEEEEEEEEEEZ LMAO
Skip will never admit when he's wrong. Even when the stats and numbers say he's wrong, he just says "i don't care".
Shannon has been wrong about Brady for 4 years…never admits when he is wrong too.
@@isaacsangels7235 Shannon just said on yesterdays show, "when the facts change, my opinion will change as well. I was wrong about Sam Darnold".
@@zaaayyyy23 so the fact that Brady won 3 Super Bowls after Shannon was saying he was done didn’t change the facts?? What are you smoking. Shannon is a Brady hater and we all know it
shannon is grilling skip 🤣🤣🤣
Rodgers is gonna be in the lead for the MVP. Brady’s performance in the Saints game is being exaggerated. He was not the problem in that game.
Did you not watch the game?
@@kingbchalla yep, did you? Or better yet have you seen the all 22?
Yeah I’m with u Brady had a bad game but it’s cuz everyone else on the Bucs organization had a worse game
Lol how he not when he gave a donut cussing people out
Zero points scored. Sorry that's on Brady all day.
I love how Skip was like wait a minute I am not done. Lol. I need to practice this! ~ Mister Walter