Great video David, you Brits are some well studied scatter gun shooters. This American is saying that with the highest amount of respect. Thanks for uploading - very educational! Cheers!
I have never felt comfortable while learning to shoot my shotgun. I had the correct cheek weld but the problem was my stance was too square and my fingers on the stock were too far from my face..Now I am more relaxed while shooting and that makes it easier. Thank you for your help.
Yes sir...it's all about consistency. How many times can we bring the gun up to our cheek in the same position. Regardless what gun we use. That's the first thing we must teach ourselves. Great video, keep them coming.
VERY useful video. I'm short and have a rugby scrum players neck [i.e. none at all !]. Been struggling to get my head forward enough on a 32" barrel standard length stocked Browning Sporter 525. Barbury Shooting School have just fitted me with a "reduced stock" model 525, with lighter 30" barrels. Trying it there on Monday with a couple of boxes of cartridges. IF I and they, are happy I will trade. As you say ... a good shooting school can get you the gun, that fits YOU.
Gun fit is very variable. Especially lop. Trigger reach, body dimensions/arm length, muscle mass, fat mass etc all contribute, i know small guys who have high 14 lops and tall guys who have low 14s. It's all based around your body fit and feel to a gun. The numbers are just numbers. Mount the guns naturally and what feels/ fits best and gives you best poi sight plane is what you need. Forget numbers all together
We need a proper shooting school in America. We have some brilliant instructors but I I don't think many can do everything a proper English maker can. This is especially true where it concerns side by sides. Finding a decent side by side in America is hard enough, but to find someone to teach you to shoot it and get it fitted for you is impossible.
To me a 15 inch browning lop feels different to a 15 inch beretta lop too, i personally feel they have a slighly different angle of pistol grip that has an impact. I find a 15 inch beretta feels shorter than the 15 inch browning to me personally. I personally like 14 1/2 (roughly) browning and 15 inch beretta. Ive always shot guns that look 'too short for me' better. Its a funny old game :)
Great video sir i happen to have a german drilling rifle side by side and one rifled barrel chambered into 9.3x74r can you please make video on that i love to hunt with its like hard to miss with this rifle so much fun to shoot
I bought a Tikka T3X roughtech in 30-06. Length of pull is 14”. My length of pull is 13”. I’m a backcountry hunter and length of pull is very important to me. I’d really like to cut the stock down, but do it correctly. Is there anything I need to know before doing this? I have done this before, but on a Mossberg 12 gauge pump. The tikka is a lot more money and has a beautiful stock.
How about contacting them and asking the ones making it? Also think about what you do with it. If you're seated most of the time or prone isn't the same. With shotguns the stances may be way different based on the discipline. Someone clearing a plate rack, someone in trap, one doing cowboy action shooting or hunters may all stand different based on how much they shoot, distance, light & heavy loads. There is no definitive rule just cause one has a shotgun. Just lots of styles that all should be fitted to the user's needs.
OK I have been trap shooting for a long time and while I don't disagree with what he has said I would add that he mounts his gun at chest height and not in the shoulder. That suits him and so that's fine, for him. I tend to shoulder a gun high, in my shoulder. My tried and tested way of checking the stock length this way. With the gun broken rest the barrel on your show. Hold the grip as you would to shoot it and see where the stock ends in you inner elbow. If it fits right it should be on the crease of this inner elbow. Much longer or shorter and it won't feel comfortable. The three finger thingy is ok but if the stock is right for you your head will fall correctly on the comb. You need to be able to go through your mount routine the same time after time. That way you will know your gun is in the right place and be able to shoot consistently.
Who’s three fingers? I have quite slender fingers, someone with fat fingers would be double the distance back. But even if you were to suggest a set distance, surely that would then have to vary based upon both the shape and the drop of the stock. Presumably a higher, flatter comb you could be further back, whereas a more pronounced drop would require your head to be further forward? Then again, I guess facial structure must play a part. Different people must have different heights from cheek to eye. I suppose what I’m trying to say is, surely there is no rule that can be set regarding gun fit, it is infinitely different depending on person and gun.
TomYourGo@ totally agree. And that's before considering cast! I was told that you need to be able to mount the gun consistently before a gun can be fitted. But how can you do this without first owning a gun? LoP is only one factor.
@@whatafukndick5660 i mean, i like that feeling to. The mechanical feel of the gun is quite nice. But 4 times in 10 seconds😆. The joints will get loose. And the gun will begin to rattle.
@@whatafukndick5660 AHAHAHAHAHA, 😆. He will probably do it for free. Although a brand new gun feels sooo good in the action. Even though it's a little tight.
0:10 - 2 blue go in, and 1 red and 1 blue come out. Magic!
The power of editing 😂, good observation skills
Am I the only that saw Hell Boy with his muffs up on his head like that?
Great video David, you Brits are some well studied scatter gun shooters. This American is saying that with the highest amount of respect. Thanks for uploading - very educational!
Cheers!
Thank you for your support you should pop over to the shooting school and see us sometime?
Ohhh... Wait what?
I have never felt comfortable while learning to shoot my shotgun. I had the correct cheek weld but the problem was my stance was too square and my fingers on the stock were too far from my face..Now I am more relaxed while shooting and that makes it easier. Thank you for your help.
Yes sir...it's all about consistency. How many times can we bring the gun up to our cheek in the same position. Regardless what gun we use. That's the first thing we must teach ourselves. Great video, keep them coming.
VERY useful video. I'm short and have a rugby scrum players neck [i.e. none at all !]. Been struggling to get my head forward enough on a 32" barrel standard length stocked Browning Sporter 525. Barbury Shooting School have just fitted me with a "reduced stock" model 525, with lighter 30" barrels. Trying it there on Monday with a couple of boxes of cartridges. IF I and they, are happy I will trade. As you say ... a good shooting school can get you the gun, that fits YOU.
Where can I get those cool cartridges that go into the gun blue and come out red? Seriously though thanks for the tips.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Gun fit is very variable. Especially lop. Trigger reach, body dimensions/arm length, muscle mass, fat mass etc all contribute, i know small guys who have high 14 lops and tall guys who have low 14s. It's all based around your body fit and feel to a gun. The numbers are just numbers. Mount the guns naturally and what feels/ fits best and gives you best poi sight plane is what you need. Forget numbers all together
Awesome information that I honestly didn't know !!!
Thank You so much !!!
We need a proper shooting school in America. We have some brilliant instructors but I I don't think many can do everything a proper English maker can. This is especially true where it concerns side by sides. Finding a decent side by side in America is hard enough, but to find someone to teach you to shoot it and get it fitted for you is impossible.
I have found that if a stock has offset ( cast ) the length of pull can be longer generally.
This guy is a Legend.
Now I find this video very informative.
Color American's surprised that there are British shooting channels. But dang if this isn't good, useful information!
Unfortunately I don’t have a shooting school here in Tasmania what’s the next best thing to do
Great teacher, great tips!!!
Thanks so much!
The instructor I wished for!
Yes.
Informative and helpful video.
what type of vest is that?
Good advice!
To me a 15 inch browning lop feels different to a 15 inch beretta lop too, i personally feel they have a slighly different angle of pistol grip that has an impact. I find a 15 inch beretta feels shorter than the 15 inch browning to me personally. I personally like 14 1/2 (roughly) browning and 15 inch beretta. Ive always shot guns that look 'too short for me' better. Its a funny old game :)
Great video again cheers 👍
Great video sir i happen to have a german drilling rifle side by side and one rifled barrel chambered into 9.3x74r can you please make video on that i love to hunt with its like hard to miss with this rifle so much fun to shoot
I bought a Tikka T3X roughtech in 30-06. Length of pull is 14”. My length of pull is 13”. I’m a backcountry hunter and length of pull is very important to me. I’d really like to cut the stock down, but do it correctly. Is there anything I need to know before doing this? I have done this before, but on a Mossberg 12 gauge pump. The tikka is a lot more money and has a beautiful stock.
How about contacting them and asking the ones making it? Also think about what you do with it. If you're seated most of the time or prone isn't the same. With shotguns the stances may be way different based on the discipline. Someone clearing a plate rack, someone in trap, one doing cowboy action shooting or hunters may all stand different based on how much they shoot, distance, light & heavy loads. There is no definitive rule just cause one has a shotgun. Just lots of styles that all should be fitted to the user's needs.
Nice video. I don’t hear many American people here in my state of Indiana talk about this stuff
Always enjoy your vids...
Thanks for your support.
OK I have been trap shooting for a long time and while I don't disagree with what he has said I would add that he mounts his gun at chest height and not in the shoulder. That suits him and so that's fine, for him. I tend to shoulder a gun high, in my shoulder.
My tried and tested way of checking the stock length this way. With the gun broken rest the barrel on your show. Hold the grip as you would to shoot it and see where the stock ends in you inner elbow. If it fits right it should be on the crease of this inner elbow. Much longer or shorter and it won't feel comfortable. The three finger thingy is ok but if the stock is right for you your head will fall correctly on the comb. You need to be able to go through your mount routine the same time after time. That way you will know your gun is in the right place and be able to shoot consistently.
Good for telling you how long your arm is not much else
@@AHL77777 Try then criticise me pal.
@@AHL77777 that answer is totally corret
I take it you do gun fitting what are are you in? Cheers
Rory
Buckinghamshire/Oxford.
informative and inspirational
One that makes me hit every clay I aim at😂
What is the fausti you had displayed there?
Probably an sx4
Who’s three fingers? I have quite slender fingers, someone with fat fingers would be double the distance back. But even if you were to suggest a set distance, surely that would then have to vary based upon both the shape and the drop of the stock. Presumably a higher, flatter comb you could be further back, whereas a more pronounced drop would require your head to be further forward? Then again, I guess facial structure must play a part. Different people must have different heights from cheek to eye.
I suppose what I’m trying to say is, surely there is no rule that can be set regarding gun fit, it is infinitely different depending on person and gun.
TomYourGo@ totally agree. And that's before considering cast! I was told that you need to be able to mount the gun consistently before a gun can be fitted. But how can you do this without first owning a gun? LoP is only one factor.
Don,t buy a hi-rib gun. . .Use Grass. .
wow mounting the gun the mid chest breast. no wonder you like a long stock:)
4:54 why do you have to open and close the gun 4 times in like 10 seconds?
Just because he likes to, kinda neat how that works.
@@whatafukndick5660 i mean, i like that feeling to. The mechanical feel of the gun is quite nice. But 4 times in 10 seconds😆. The joints will get loose. And the gun will begin to rattle.
@@sebastiankoch4865 I just bought a new sxs, need to send it to this guy to loosen it up 😂
@@whatafukndick5660 AHAHAHAHAHA, 😆. He will probably do it for free. Although a brand new gun feels sooo good in the action. Even though it's a little tight.
Probably because he can.
my best stock length is the longest i can find used under 200 euro xD budget is a bitch.
Safe gun handling seem to be tatooed in his spine and spirit. Have an upvote.
Thank you