CRF300L Suspension Upgrade Race Tech G3-S Custom Shock
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- The CRF300L is a pretty good deal. Under $6000 for a new dual sport motorcycle in 2022 is amazing. But surely that savings has to have some compromises, right? Well anyone who's even sat on one can probably tell you what that compromise is. The suspension is just awful! It literally eats up about 1/3 of the rear travel just by taking it off kickstand. Sit on it and you'll lose another 1/3. And believe me, it doesn't get any better when you start to ride. It's floaty, soft, and has a disconnected feeling. It's like a cadillac from the 90's and back. That maybe nice in a big body sedan but a dual sport.. no. Luckily Race Tech has been on it and developed a number of parts to help. In this video will be changing the shock out for a G3-S Custom Shock. These things come set up specifically for you with full adjustability. Next video will tackle the forks. Springs, gold valves, will get this CRF300L set right!
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0:00 The CRF300L's Biggest Issue
1:53 Race Tech Parts
4:26 Old Shock OUT
5:29 Race Tech vs Others
6:28 New Shock IN
8:20 The Results
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I've had nothing but good experiences with Race Tech. Couldn't really have gotten a better sponsor for this, in my opinion. Good job, Jake!
LMAO, I just noticed the "I love my butt plug" sticker.
I remember watching you back when you got the first grom. If it wasn’t for you I don’t think they would’ve been as popular as they are! Glad I found your videos again! I’ve been binge watching this 300 build. Loving every second of it. Thanks jake!
Love that adhd sympathetic style of editing Jake.
No time to lose interest.
Top stuff. 😀
You do just a great job explaining/educating why you are doing mods plus awesome installation details. You very talented.
thank you sir
Even after my fathers funeral, you always put a smile on my face. Keep up the good work & stay safe
I’m running racetech on my yz80 mini supermoto. Couldn’t be happier. Great company. That’s really great you got them as a sponsor.
I bought race tech front springs for my 2006 klx250s. Now I need to do the rear shock. It is amazing how much better a bike is with good suspension.
Heck yeah! That’s the last big thing I need to do to ‘ my 300L. Excellent videos as always! 🙏🏽🏍💨
I used race tech for new springs on my old 2000 drz400s, I heeded the advice of a veteran dual sport/single track racer. One of the first mods, get your suspension set up right. My current 2019 drz400sm still needs the springs from Race Tech. That should be happening in the next couple of months.
I did YSS for the rear and Racetech for the front spring, it changed the bike completely, finally felt like a proper bike, also raised the bike quite a bit, very happy with the YSS build quality and the price isn't bad either
Just installed a new KTech rear shock assembly on my 300 Rally, sprung for my weight (210 lbs)- it's a different bike now, money well spent :)
only channel that i rewind the intro multiple times
Great video Jake, can't wait for the video on the forks. One small thing, it's damping, not dampening. Lol
We need our amerifat bikes tuned for 200lbs from the factory. As a person over 6ft it sucks how almost every bike needs different suspension to ride right.
Bro, thank you for this! I've been holding out for ohlins, but might have to go with racetech. I specifically am looking one with a remote reservoir.
Great work bro! Awesome video
Love the videos and the crf 300L content! But the term is "damping" not "dampening". Thank you for so much wonderful content!
I used racetech on my 675 track/race bike and the difference was amazing. As I got faster, the stock suspension couldn't handle certain bumps and would really upset the bike which of course limited how fast I could enter/exit turns or brake.. after upgrading, i was improving about 1s per lap each trackday.. pretty crazy how much confidence you gain when the bike isn't doing silly things under you.
Jake we are old and we enjoy the finer things and that is the suspension.
You should throw a wrench in the mix and build a quad next. Love your videos. I wish it was still 2012 and still making supermoto dual vlogs. Keep up the videos
I had the g3 custom shock from race tech on my 250l. Also put the spring kit up front. Was night and day compared to stock. Now you can take the bike off road
Hell yeah! You can do 10K in engine mods, but once you go into a quality suspension product, the seat of the pants gains are substantial. Naturally, in typical Jake fashion, sounds like you are doing both! :P Great vid as always!
Agree 110%, I used to lineup next to kids that had motor work, exhaust, etc etc done on their bikes but stock suspension when I raced motocross, and nearly every race they'd fade during the moto. My bikes were stock with revalved suspension and I'd just cruise by most times
Can't wait for a video about power increases
I have Race Tech springs/valves on my XR SM, 900ss and K7 750. Also have their fork compression tool. I never mind giving them money cause I get my money's worth!
Damping! Not dampening. Other that that, great vid!
I think race techs are gonna be needed on the sporty!
Do it 🤌
Enjoy your videos. Is there a video on the bike stand? I'm intrigued!
I have electronic suspension on my super Duke GT. It is a magic carpet ride. I can see why more premium bikes are appearing with that upgrade.
Slowly but surely Jake is building his bike the way it should have been made at the factory for the riders they were looking to purchase it. But it's just my opinion.
Well done Sir well done. Can't wait for the fork tear down.
Yeah I'm trying to get it there haha. The big question will be once it's done will it be worth it.
Well it could be $10k+ like the 450l lol.
If only I can get one here in the Philippines.. the only mod I really need. Cheers!
Just go for the extra 300. A new shock makes it a different machine. I think it would be cool to have bad ass suspension with a stock engine. I love the graphics. Aces 10
I have been a Patreon supporter for a few years now. I still don't watch the Patreon videos, I watch them on TH-cam so Jake gets the TH-cam support too.
Hold up did he say 40% power increase? Jake you are crazy in the best way, im really looking forward to that, and if it's all well I might have to replace my KLR
Great! But don`t forget to adjust the suspension to your personal weight ( negativ suspension) !
Hello, I like soft suspension so, is it adjustable ? Can we made it soft like stock suspension ? Or can we make more soft then stock one ?
remote reservoir should be mounted on the frame, away from any hot items like the engine
Nope, it's full of nitrogen that doesn't care about that heat. Look where stock ones are mounted on most dirt bikes, right over the exhaust.
Awesome
Good video, but I'm disappointed in the reservoir location. I would think it should not be right next to the hot engine. Have you noticed any fade due to heat?
This past week I took a test ride on a KTM 500 EXC. It felt so precise and easy to maneuver compared to my stock CRF300L that I've been considering selling my beloved 300L. It's a life or death kinda decision, because I need a safest, surgically precise steering/maneuvering bike for treacherous, technical single track alone on steep mountains (I do nature photography). I assumed the precision and hence easier riding experience on the KTM was all about the weight difference of 43 lbs. But, now I'm wondering if it was actually more about the suspension. Have you ridden KTM 500 EXC for comparison to your upgraded suspension CRF300L, or can you speculate otherwise in how your 300L handles for slow technical single track after upgrading?
Dude you should have just bought a crf400... your about there
Finally
YSS is another great option for these bikes.
The stock suspension sucks, and it is a big deal for Asian market too. Most of us here, in Thailand, also get a new suspension kit right away after they got a bike.
The question is, if upgrading the suspension is so expensive them why not simply get a better bike to begin with? Or maybe get a used shock off another bike. As an example, my first "real bike" (Suzuki GS500) had limp noodle suspension front & rear, but for $100 the rear shock could be changed for an R6 unit & that sorted out the back end (I used Racetech springs in the forks) Is there any similar swap for the CRF300?
Can you just put a Schrader valve in the forks and shock without the expense of replacing the whole suspension?
I'm not sure I like the placement of the reservoir, never seen one mounted to the engine before, seems like engine heat would counteract the purpose of having a reservoir of cool fluid in the first place.
Can you show me your purchase order for when you originally bought the 300L
There was a tiktok video of a dealer talking crap about a guy that was saying the stock suspension is bad lol
If your weight is 130-150 pounds would you say it's still necessary to do a suspension upgrade if you like to ride aggressively? Also does your seat height go up after you upgraded suspension? Thanks
You might be ok but I still think with faster off road riding y’all need at least a stiffer rear spring.
Regardless of your weight, getting your suspension valved and setup for YOU is going to contribute a ton to improving your riding. If you do ANY mods to your motorcycle, the suspension should be priority #1 👌🏻 Happy riding guys!
My 2021 klx300sm feels like that stock its maybe a little softer but pretty close rear wise and its def. Better up front than your honda stock i get why u chose the honda mkre aftermarket forsure
QUESTION: I am a giraffe of a guy. 38" inseam. what options do I have for extra seat height and the whole bike sitting higher? Many thanks in advance -- Tripp
Actually when you were bouncing it, both front and rear seemed to compress a lot more equally, compared to when you had the stock unit
Well I also did the forks at the same time. But realistically that’s not a measure of balanced suspension.
Its a dual sport, ie 90% road use bike, you just swap in cr stuff if you want to tilt it the other way. My wr125/180 runs on yz suspension.
Heavier tires really bring out more unsprung weight feeling with soft suspension.
For sure, it would be really bad if I wasn't doing this
Wait the factory rear shock doesn't have a reservoir? Oh my.
Hey brother, awesome content. I am thinking about getting the race tec suspension for my 300l as well. I want to go between a supermoto setup and 50/50 tire. Did you find any issues with your suspension if your to go back and fourth?
Thanks!!
Nope, it works great in all set ups. Eats up fast off road and gives great feed back/response on the supermoto track. All I’ve ever done was added a little bit more pre load on the shock after the spring broke in. Otherwise I don’t adjust with all the different set ups.
Thanks for the response brother. Is there a certain set up you told Race Tec to put together for the supermoto and dual sport set up? @@TheGardenSnake
I love you.
With entry level bikes, profits are slim. Hard to take too much reliability from the engine so they go with less expensive suspension. Honda knows it costs less to modify suspension vs modifying engine afterwards with power it should come from factory. Hear me Harley.
Ive taken my 300l on 2 off road rides and Im not a particularly hard rider. The suspension is somehow too soft and also jarring on harsh bumps
When are you going to add a motohorn?
that bike looks so good just needs an exhaust
Trying lol, hard to get
I wish you knew someone with a KLX300 SM that you could have compared this bike to. Interesting to see if it would be better to start with that bike or even a DRZ400 SM.
Yeah there someone I know that might get one.. maybe. I’ve only been on one for a quick ride.
Just realized..... you look like Al Borland from Home Improvements... really. 😲
Wow, I'm first view for the first time
Look what a muffler costs for a bike. I just bought a titanium muffler for my bike, $1700. Are there cheaper mufflers, sure but you get what you pay for. Sound and suspension are important to me. Engine mods are the most costly and affect reliability with more heat. I buy the engine with the horsepower from the factory. Engine mods cost so much for just a few more horsepower. Suspension will make you go faster. Lighting you bike helps everything including braking, acceleration, and handling. Harley just places a bigger motor but that adds weight. Harley needs more carbon fiber, aluminum, and composites but that is more expensive than just placing a larger, heavier motor.
All my suspension is Race Tech
Hay, what I would like to know about the rear shock, Is the $1100 shock you put on worth the $1100? I mean it is expensive, but does it give back that much or is it just nice to have?
Exactly, not sure his answer is going to be unbiased, as he probably got it free.
I forgot you existed.
Kinda hard to take you seriously when you have an "I ❤ my butt plug" sticker in the background, lol. I had to do a double-take because I thought I misread it at first. There's got to be a story BEHIND that. (See what I did there? Sorry, not sorry.)
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I haven't a reservoir placement like that.
Looks easier to adjust than preload. Some shocks can adapt screw type collar for preload.
Looking forward to fork valve performance.
Isn't putting that shock tank close to the hot engine a bad idea? Won't it influence the shock's performance
No, nitreon doesn't care. And that's where you're meant to mount it according to racetech.
40% more power....I smell a TURBO in the future???
you going to do a travel rack on the back?
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Great job. Only one thing: I think the piggyback is too close to an hot zone. This is not good for the inside gas.
Oh no that's not an issue. They fill these with nitrogen, unaffected by the temps it will see. Many factory piggybacks are right over the exhaust.
@@TheGardenSnake ok, so no problem. Great upgrade!
I think to replace my oem with an YSS. It's worst than G3 but it's much more cheaper.
It's damping dude (not dampening - that means to get wet!)
That's what she said !
Am I missing something because in your videos you say it cost 1$/month for Patreon but when you look on Patreon it says 1$ per video.
Could you explain it to me please anyone
You can just set a monthly cap of $1. They way if I didn’t upload you wouldn’t be charged.
@@TheGardenSnake thanks you very much
Oh and damn you now I want to buy a sumo again 🤣
Suspension is why I got my klx300 over the Honda
I could see that
Man these bikes go for like 9k after tax in California 😂
You get half a like now half a like when the bike is finished
haha how do you do that
@@TheGardenSnake lol no idea
I tried to order the RaceTech from CRFsOnly, but their 'policy' is they will only ship to Credit Card Billing Address. Well I have a 2020 CRF250L in the Philippines, WTF use is suspension upgrade parts in Dallas??? and NO, CRFsOnly did NOT offer any kind of work-around. They just told me my order was cancelled. Great Customer Service that was.... NOT.
I don’t work with crf’s only. There are lots of race tech distributors. Don’t just search for the parts. Looks up race tech distributors and they can get you what you need.
You can contact Race Tech directly and find out if there is a local distributor. If not, they can usually ship internationally.
Its almost like its a 250l with a couple modifications
stop greasing bolts lol. why do you figure every single factory bike doesn't have greasy bolts? because the collar don't slide on the bolt, the bearing is the rotating interface. if you get grease on the bolt head it messes up the torque to clamp force relationship, can cause the bolt to loosen, and in a bad scenario you can yield a bolt.
The reason why I do it is because I've had to beat these bolts out on many bikes. Steel on steel down under the bike, it's gonna get gimmy and wet and STUCK. Grease will stop that. The bearing will still be the rotating interface when there's any real pressure on it. I don't put grease on the threads, that would be stilly.
@@TheGardenSnake sure sure, but the bolt head interface is part of the torque calculation.
Honestly I spent over $1500 and they have trash customer service been trying to get a hold of them and it’s been weeks
I called them and immediately got an answer on something. Didn’t call a special line and didn’t say “I’m Jake TheGardenSnake” or anything. Just called and got helped fast. Try calling them.
shitty rear suspension is only way i can even get on a dirtbike and be able to touch, because im short but fat lol. if it dont sag down when i get on i cant get a foot down lol
9:17 someone please mail Jake some new pants
That’s good garage pants 😂
Soo racists...calling us Americans fat! lol great content as usual keep killing it ! when is the kawi showing up 🤔😂
You're right, most US Americans are only to short for their weight.
Y’all, it’s “damping” not “dampening”.
EXHAUST WHEN ?!?!
When I can get one...
Two Brothers
@@TheGardenSnake what brand you thinking ? I assume two brothers
@@louisjgb8283 twobros doesn't make one. We three on order from other brands for months and months. Will see what happens.
@@TheGardenSnake oh alright cool man 👍🏻
Here's a really good test with the suspension fully complete th-cam.com/video/L7n9B5hoZfs/w-d-xo.html
I’d say one dampening and one spring is a price compromise…
That’s like what you see on fucking scooters….
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It doesn’t even have an external fluid resivor?!?!?!?
This is a china wish bike dude 😅
yep thats it, 100%
Hey jakey Pooh
hi
Öhlins.
Looks like a good beginner bike for a light guy or girl. Way too small for a adult. I have a 1330 cc F-3S Spyder. I’m about 180LBS and about 5 ft 10 inches tall. This would be way to small for me.thanks for showing us though.
My z125 pulled my fatass just fine
So you don’t have a motorcycle then.
Didn’t you read my post? I’ve been ridding longer than most of you have been alive.
@@troy9er Read your post. The 1330 cc F-3S Spyder is not a motorcycle. But anyway, the CRF300L is not a small bike. The seat height is just shy of 35", and higher with a new shock. Darn, it may even be too big for you.
I guess since you’re such a HUGE guy you should just stick to your horrible trike thing.
Why spend all that money on a 300 should have just bought a 450 and that would have been better stock than that 300 will ever be modified.
450 is a completely different animal. I owned a street legal wr450f for years. These bikes are suited for very different jobs.
450 isn't suitable for everyday use.
@@j.r.arnolli9734 that makes no sense
Pay to see more...
TH-cam doesn't pay you enough to benefit from subscribers' money?
you forgot to set the correct sag (free sag, race sag)
Can't do that till the forks are done, that will change it. That video is up now, we do it in that video.