I hate AI. Please don't lose the extreme respect your viewers have for your knowledge of history and understanding of the geopolitics human nature you put into your videos. AI can not understand human nature nor religious and ideological reactions to geopolitical events as your videos have.
@@Pigraider268 I do it all in Photoshop. I have a large base world map that I made from putting together various maps I found online and tweaking the colors and such. The land is a separate layer from the background ocean so I can easily select countries and give them colors. Whenever I want to make historical borders, I just find the historical maps I need online and overlay them on my base map in Photoshop. That usually involves some stretching and warping since they aren't always the same kind of map projection. If you don't want to pay for Photoshop I'm sure you can do the same thing in free programs like GIMP as well. Just learn to use Photoshop or a program like GIMP through practice if you want to make similar maps.
I like how the AI just constantly repeats "in this alternate world where the PLC survived" it reminds me of the papers I wrote in college where I needed a few hundred more words but didn't have anything else to say
The AI Hilariously and impressively fell for all the Cliche's of alternate history nations > Is a strong and stable democracy > Industrialised early > Never loses land > Mind reader diplomacy, all other nations practically do what the PLC wants > Is just stronger and better than all of it's neighbours > Prevents World wars + Napoleonic wars > Colonial power You'd think the AI was polish or something lol
@@Frugustin we don't know in this history there might be better president in russia, if i remember corecly putin was an past KGB agent and if USSR never happen there also as Third Reich someone better might be in his place
Maybe. We were tolerant nation with multiple religions, minorities and worldviews. We propably just add AI as another type of citizen. While internal yelling and discussion is our tradition rest of world allways known we love freedom and we support everyone who fight for it. And about war with Russia. Catherine the Great was infatuated with our king. He dump her and come back to Commonwealth to promote Constitution. If she was calm there is possibility of personal union and influencing future for more democratic but unfortunatelly ever opinionated Russia.
every Pole dreams of weak Germans and weak Russians. and about Polish colonies all over the world. but the United States and China are already there for this ;-D
Poland plays the role of a stabilizer on the map of Europe. Let us note that the time of Poland's disappearance from the map of Europe has always been associated with a time of confusion, destabilization and the rise of despotic regimes.
I'm aware, but apparently Elevenlabs (The speech synthesis program that is reading the script) is not. I probably could've just changed the spelling of sejm to make it read it properly, but I felt like keeping it in just to include some of the current limitations of the technology.
@@jakub4931 bro, he is not Lithuanian. He literally said that Lithuania is fighting Polish culture, and that Poland doesnt do the same to Lithuanian culture
@@MR-xq2qy the Senate is also part of the parliament. "Polish lower house" would work fine though and I don't think anyone would complain about it, people just kinda don't like to say "lower house" in the UK it's also almost always called the house of commons... Just calling it the polish house of commons would work too for anyone to lazy to open Google translate and click the little 🔊 button (yeah, Google translate is pretty good at saying foreign words, that's why it's annoying that people butcher words that they use again and again this extremely)
That is impressive knowledge. I happen to know that well, because I am a Pole. I was originally speaking from the point of view that the "sey-gem" pronunciation really does inflict brain damage and any substitute is preferable ;)
It could have been a reality if Sweden and Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth have been able solve dynastic and religious conflicts and focus on the common enemy instead of fighting each others in the early 17th century.
Poland was the size of Egypt in those days, comparing Egypt to other countries in Europe, of course, a million areas, but when it won Moscow for 2 years, they had much larger areas
I would say that we would have like half of the Russia lands and China would take big piece of Siberia. Seems really dangerous and unstable as Russia is a piece of shit but they are capable of stabilization Asia.
great video, sad that you still don't have 100k, I subbed to you when you only had 11k subscribers, so good job for getting to 30. I also hope you have the time to post a new video because I love your videos
If PLC survived, we would already have colonies on Mars and could travel outside of our solar system ;) Not mentioning about curing all the diseases and reversing aging. (although now we are very close to the latter). Great video! Cheers!
It was easy to preserve the Commonwealth making it confederation instead of federation, because it was impossible to supress the complete subjectivity of Rus (Ruthenia), absence of that would provoke constant civil conflict. It is a great geopolitical project, which is potential and even highly topical today - Intermarrium union. That is actually welcomed by each Eastern European nation. Many wrote about it in previous century.
Rus was not absent. Ruthenians constituted the majority of the population and culturally dominated the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, where even the official language was Ruthenian. Names can confuse, but only those who have no knowledge in the subject. I don't know what you are talking about writing about " constant civil conflict"?
@@cetus4449 you didn't understand the point, there is no doubt GDL was Ruthenian state socially and culturally! But it's not about GDL. Lublin Union has changed administrative order with Rus (Ukraine) getting incorporated into a Crown (with vast autonomy, indeed) from Litva. But Rus elites (dukes, nobility) and nation strived to aquire complete subjectiveness as a third, equal administrative member of the Commonwealth, which was being constantly denied. Necessity of subjectiveness was both practical and in respect to tradition of Rus statehood. Practical matter essentially lied in a phenomena of cossacks, presence of that new social category was inevitably huge (firm conditions of critical defence and advance against Muslims), requiring proper rights fitting it's scale. That would have been possible only if Rus had managed own order and solved external problems independently; particularly Crimean/Ottoman issues. Denies and suppression of indispensable aspirations led to a crucial point of global national war in 1648. Full membership was tried once again in Hadyach agreements 1659, but got rejected too.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Not that big. Because The Commonwealth stabilized Europe. There had been no war as big as WWI and WWII till it existed. Disappearance of the Commonwealth distablized Europe. In particular Russia and Germany must never be let to have a common border because it ultimately leads to a conflict.
5:14 - ah, AI doesn't know Poles well enough. Poles love rebels and freedom and equality. They flocked to help USA in their rebellion and would so in France. PLC existing means less room for Napoleon to expand, but more stability and probable survival as he would not have had to deal with Russia.
Basically. Poles fought for America in the Independence War (two Continental Army generals were Polish- Tadeusz Kościuszko and Kazimierz Pułaski), for Haitian Slaves who rebelled against France (the same Polish soldiers that Napoleon sent to Haiti to fight the slaves), in South America against the Spanish, for Hungarians in their rebellion against Austria (polish officer, Joseph Bem is a national hero in Hungary), for Greece in their independence war with Ottomans, in the unification of Italy, the first Balkan War (Ottomans vs everyone in the Balkans), as volunteers for France in their wars with Prussia, etc.
On the other hand, one can argue about whether such freedom movements would have existed in the first place if the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had never experienced partitions.
@@nexor7809 nothing is that black and white. I didn't mention any of that stuff mostly bc that wasn't the topic, but it absolutely happened and it's nothing to be proud of.
@@nexor7809 The Polonization of Lithuanians wasn't by force like Germanization or Russification, back then it was more worth it to adopt the Polish culture as the Crown part of the Commonwealth was the gateway to the West, to better education, standards of living and Christianity/standings with the Pope, and it doesn't change the fact that there was still a Ruthenian and Lithuanian nobility separate from the Polish. And the Cossacks were bandits, raiding their own people as much as their enemies. It was the Ruthenian nobility who kept petitioning the Crown to deal with the Cossacks.
it's nice that you put emphasis on the fact that the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was already a democracy at a time when other European countries were monarchies. I think that nowadays we need a strong balancing coalition of nations that once co-created the Commonwealth.
I always love the universes where the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Ottoman Empire survived. Because those are worlds are lot better with them to keep Europe and the Middle East in check.
This will be interesting with Jagiellons dynasty still rules Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Sehzade Mustafa or Cihangir ( and ancestors ) rules Ottoman Empire. And... Yes, I'm Polish.
@@LuisAldamiz that's debatable because PLC was one of the most tolerant country in the world where everyone could live in peace until they paid taxes for the crown
The French Revolution may have still happened since one of the reasons it happened is because they went bankrupt helping the 13 colonies fight the UK...unless the loaned France a ton of money to prevent collapse.
people: don't want to lose their jobs or for AI to become danger for the world Also people: Make more effort to show it's possible then to be safe from that fear
Chat GPT's word repetion and sentence repetition is cringy. It reminds me of some poorly written edutainment videos where the publisher has nothing substantial to say, so they just repeat the same things over and over, phrased differently each time. I think your job is safe, Neatling :D
Now, in the new realignment of forces in the world, the moment has come when the Rzeczpospolita can reunite, I hope that our politicians will not screw it up. I greet the brothers from the Baltic States, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova - from Poland. We must be unite together again !
I did one of these ai alternate histories (although I helped). Basically Russia, Pakistan, and India, got nuked, Turkey started a new caliphate, robots took over China, and Tucker Carlson had the glorious line of "I'm Tucker Fucking Carlson" before getting arrested by a rogue Malaysian military regime.
By chat GPT, there was "Rebellion of alchemists against King SeJo of Chosun dynasty," which ranked as the 6th most brutal event of human history. It already became meme in korea lol
Change from the Republic of Both Nations to the Republic of Three Nations (first plans were in XVII century) would effectively do big change in the world history.
@@januszlepionkoStill can't tell exactly what you mean.... I guess, however, that about the Treaty of Hadiach project. I suggest that you find out who the magnate Niemirycz was behind the project and what his goals were. The guy was heavily involved in political vicissitudes and destabilizing the internal situation in the Rzeczpospolita.
@@cetus4449 “The guy was heavily involved in political vicissitudes and destabilizing the internal situation in the Rzeczpospolita” - this sentence could write only someone who do not know history or who is a fan of русский мир. In either case any discussion with such person is impossible. EOT.
@@januszlepionko Don't act like a complete moron and don't bring your "Russian mir" into the historical discussion. Brak ci innej argumenacji matole? As for the merits: the role of Niemirycz in the turbulent events of the mid-seventeenth century is not sufficiently exposed by historians. However, the public opinion clearly perceived this magant as a traitor, perhaps even more than Radziejowski or Radziwiłł. Although in the name of short-term political goals he changed his religion many times, he was politically connected with the Protestant world, whose representatives debated the destruction of the PLC from the inside using the Zaporozhian Cossacks already during in Treaty of Stuhmsdorf era.
This is certainly interesting. Clearly there are some problems with repetition, but maybe the future of alt-history videos is generating a prompt like this, then the actual youtuber going in and correcting or expanding on the necessary bits of the script. This might sound like a bit of an odd idea for a future vid, but what if Celtic-Christendom became the dominant form in the British Isles? Essentially the practice of acknowledging local deities instead as heroes and saints and largely maintaining local cultures is the norm. Could see the vikings converting a lot sooner, as well as a lot of places in the world if Britain still goes global.
If Catherine the Great wasnt so infuriated after our king decided to came back to Commonwealth to promote Constitution maybe now we would have nice Commonwealth of Poland, Lithunania and Russia. No communism, no ZSRR and no to ex-KGB president. Maybe it would be nice history. Unfortunatelly anger and politics divide us. Now tyrants promote ever greater division when we all want peacefull life without wars.
@@dariuszblack7956 Yeah, I'm sorry for that. She might have been as great of a politician and commander in chief as she had been in the sheets, yet in the Polish matter, she kind of blew it. There is another great video,btw, where Russia and the Commonwealth unite
You could have put some effort into smaller details regarding borders. Maybe like not drawing Trianon borders for Hungary and actually paying attention to ethnic lines?
Would the PLC actually have such a colonial influence without any coustlines outside of straits controlles by other countries? Both the baltic sea and the black sea doesn’t have uninterrupted access to the rest of the world, being tied behind constantinople and copenhagen.
Good point. In an alternative version of history, the PLC would undoubtedly face similar problems (rivalry with the British Empire) as it happened with Russia in history. Geopolitics. But if Constantinople were taken, completely different possibilities would open up. This is why the British did everything to prevent Tsarist Russia from giving up the Black Sea straits.
Good point, but the map represents an alternate reality. And the Kingdom of Poland really had a plan to seize Crimea in the middle of the 17th century.
As a pole with a great intrest in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth history I can already tell that the AI lacks any deeper knowledge about the events of that time or the political-military system that we had. There was never a "democracy" in Poland, we had a elective monarchy and the decentralization and the elections were one of the major causes of the fall of P-L C. Our country had great potential economically and militarly but all of that was crippled by decentralization and corruption which later on became really bad as foreign powers could easly bribe the election base (kind like it's happening now in the world with all the democratic nations). If it had to survive it would need drastic anti-elective reforms to bring back more power to the king.
Just because PLC was slightly more modern than the rest doesn't mean it would have stayed the same. Could have been case of dragon is dead (or "dragons are not born"), long live the dragon
grym video som alltid, det är sjukt att se vilka bruksområden ai har nu jämfört med bara 1 år sen. har också upplevt att ai är relativt dålig på just kartor och grafik, men ser fram emot att se vad ai kan göra redan nästa år på den fronten!
fun alternate history wouuld be one in wihere polish king Władysław III did not leroy jenkins his army into ottoman emprie leaving 3 kingdoms without a king. So instead of PLC they would be PBHC "Polish Bohemian Hungarian Commonwealth" Austria never united with hungary removing austrian emprie from this timeline, ottomans never got past hungary so there never was siege of vienna that rung wake up bell for christians.
Judging how the AI just keeps repeating the same thing with different words, I honestly think our jobs are safe. As a citizen of the former PLC would have loved to live in that timeline though.
GPT3 is not yet suited for this task as it does not coressrefrence diffrent sources in diffrent languages. When i asked it for one contentious topic in history in polish and in english it gave away two separate and contradictory anwsers. Only when asked why anwsers where radically diffrent dependingon language i asked the question in it reflected and corrected to the anwser that was logically correct. Question asked: "when first freedom of speech law was codified". English answser pointed at first ammendment but when i asked same question in polish anwser it came up with was act of Wiślica in 1362. Knowing that majority of polish history in english was written by our occiupiers or people who where actively acting upon their desires to erase Poles both phisically and culturally from the face of the earth, while majority of our old laws and documents where never translated for anglosphere to understand i dobut that that AI is capable to trully understand trouble PLC was in. Nevertheless i will proceed with my watching of the video.
2:45 Army was starved of found as majority of actull fighters where noblemen and their reteneus. With nearly century of constant wars nobility was starved of resources they would use for sake of upholding laws that gave them privliges and repsoniblities they had. So there really wasn't really "army" only self-orgasnising class of people with strong beliefs, that for last 2 centuries where able to field The moust expensive cavalery style known to man in orded to ensure dominance over any foe. Usually king only fielded artilery and even that wasn't guaranteed. 3:33 PLC was seen through it's history moustly as anachronistic ciurosity, as democracy and highly decentralised state was univeraslly seen an thing that belong to the acient greece and that wouldn't really become viable on european continent untill invention of technologies that speed up information traveling process- like telegram. Modernisation process would have to start before Khmielnitsky's uprising to prevent decline in the first place as fault lines was baked into the system way before they became apparent for people who had any ability to fix it. 5:00 AI got it backwards.Weakness of france - traditional ally of Poland (going back to kingdom of Poland) was one of the reasons why partitions of PLC where possible- as on multiple occaions any moves against poland from german states would be met with some kind of opportunity to smack germans in the ass. But it was long before prussia came to be (as another mistake that was made way before it was in history). By that time prosperity within nobility bred almost modern levels of individualsim and hatered of polish culture to the point that it became un-fasionable to speak Polish and it was opted to speak French. Which was paradoxical as Polish was langua- franca of the region stifeling development and writing down other languages like Lithuanian (but that's antother story)
I am very sure Poland would've gotten weak after annexing Romania, the 1800s national unrest would've led ukraninas, Romanians, Latvian, Slovenian and other slavs to emerge
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Hi Neatling
First great idea for a video :D
Second can you tell me how you do the maps? What tool do you use and so on?
Take care :)
I hate AI.
Please don't lose the extreme respect your viewers have for your knowledge of history and understanding of the geopolitics human nature you put into your videos.
AI can not understand human nature nor religious and ideological reactions to geopolitical events as your videos have.
Man sent a message a day ago on a video that was posted 3 hours ago. Respect.
You should make a video on Venus btw
@@JTL1776man he just made a video on AI generated history, it’s not like he will adopt this into his future videos lol
@@Pigraider268 I do it all in Photoshop. I have a large base world map that I made from putting together various maps I found online and tweaking the colors and such. The land is a separate layer from the background ocean so I can easily select countries and give them colors. Whenever I want to make historical borders, I just find the historical maps I need online and overlay them on my base map in Photoshop. That usually involves some stretching and warping since they aren't always the same kind of map projection.
If you don't want to pay for Photoshop I'm sure you can do the same thing in free programs like GIMP as well. Just learn to use Photoshop or a program like GIMP through practice if you want to make similar maps.
I like how the AI just constantly repeats "in this alternate world where the PLC survived" it reminds me of the papers I wrote in college where I needed a few hundred more words but didn't have anything else to say
I did not realize that until it was pointed out
Same here man
Same here man
isn't that what the video is about? the AI understood, did you?
Yes, GPT 4 is better at changing your prompt input and far better at complexity, so it would be interesting to see how it would do in this example.
The AI Hilariously and impressively fell for all the Cliche's of alternate history nations
> Is a strong and stable democracy
> Industrialised early
> Never loses land
> Mind reader diplomacy, all other nations practically do what the PLC wants
> Is just stronger and better than all of it's neighbours
> Prevents World wars + Napoleonic wars
> Colonial power
You'd think the AI was polish or something lol
The fact that AI thinks that PLC wouldn't be in a perpetual, never-ending war with Russia is just silly.
@@Frugustin we don't know in this history there might be better president in russia, if i remember corecly putin was an past KGB agent and if USSR never happen there also as Third Reich someone better might be in his place
Maybe. We were tolerant nation with multiple religions, minorities and worldviews. We propably just add AI as another type of citizen. While internal yelling and discussion is our tradition rest of world allways known we love freedom and we support everyone who fight for it. And about war with Russia. Catherine the Great was infatuated with our king. He dump her and come back to Commonwealth to promote Constitution. If she was calm there is possibility of personal union and influencing future for more democratic but unfortunatelly ever opinionated Russia.
based A.I. lol 😂
Is it not polish?
As a pole, i like this alternate history
As a pole I can confirm
As a pole i like this alternate history and think this is interesting scenario to paly in europa universalis 4 and expended time line mod
As a Lithuanian I like it too
@@Rackel992 We shouldn't be like divorced marriage these days brother. Best wishes to you.
every Pole dreams of weak Germans and weak Russians. and about Polish colonies all over the world. but the United States and China are already there for this ;-D
The world really needed Poland Lithuania
Yes. Demise of the Commonwealth had tragic consequences for Europe and the world.
@@plrc4593 Labas Lenke
@@REGameFly 👋
@@plrc4593 indeed
@@plrc4593 After demise of Commonwealth europe,west europe to be more specific, have never been more powerful in relation to rest of the world.
Poland plays the role of a stabilizer on the map of Europe. Let us note that the time of Poland's disappearance from the map of Europe has always been associated with a time of confusion, destabilization and the rise of despotic regimes.
when "the Swedish flood" 1655-1660 happens all the "holly Europe" grab, murder and demolish most peaceful and tolerant country in the world
Would be really fun to see you expand on this video. Loved the maps and would be interested in the more indepth details you'd be able to add.
Very interesting video, but one thing- "sejm" in polish is pronounced "seym"
Yes, but remember it was read by AI ;)
I'm aware, but apparently Elevenlabs (The speech synthesis program that is reading the script) is not. I probably could've just changed the spelling of sejm to make it read it properly, but I felt like keeping it in just to include some of the current limitations of the technology.
@@Neatling LMAO
Sejm... u nas mówi się sejm
@@Mr.DalekLK napisałem im według angielskiej wymowy, sejm by po angielsku przeczytali sedżm, jak na filmie
Im lithuanian and now you just made me cry for not having a best country in the world that wee could have had ,well at least wee still exist.
At least we don't fight Lithuanian culture like Lithuania fights Poland culture...
@@Mr.DalekLK but you fight polish culture while Poland use every possible actions to preserve lithuanian culture and language in north-eastern Poland
@@jakub4931 bro, he is not Lithuanian. He literally said that Lithuania is fighting Polish culture, and that Poland doesnt do the same to Lithuanian culture
same, tho our language and culture might've died because lithuanians were just a minority
@@jakub4931 Lithuania didn't occupied polish capital,we have been back stabbed in past from our friend...
"Say-gem" this inflicts actual damage to any pole (Sejm is pronounced pretty much as "same")
I mean, it was read by an A.I. what did you expect?
"Polish parlament" perhaps?
@@MR-xq2qy the Senate is also part of the parliament. "Polish lower house" would work fine though and I don't think anyone would complain about it, people just kinda don't like to say "lower house" in the UK it's also almost always called the house of commons...
Just calling it the polish house of commons would work too for anyone to lazy to open Google translate and click the little 🔊 button (yeah, Google translate is pretty good at saying foreign words, that's why it's annoying that people butcher words that they use again and again this extremely)
That is impressive knowledge. I happen to know that well, because I am a Pole. I was originally speaking from the point of view that the "sey-gem" pronunciation really does inflict brain damage and any substitute is preferable ;)
This is actually intresting and the future of alternerate history ai is facinating. Great video idea.
It could have been a reality if Sweden and Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth have been able solve dynastic and religious conflicts and focus on the common enemy instead of fighting each others in the early 17th century.
Has a real politicans speech. Says a lot without saying all that much.
Chat gpt probably doesnt bitch about unpaid internships like those interns who wrote speeches for politicians
Poland was the size of Egypt in those days, comparing Egypt to other countries in Europe, of course, a million areas, but when it won Moscow for 2 years, they had much larger areas
Could you write an alternate history script on what if the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth kept russian throne in 1610? this one is really nice
Podbijam!!!
I would say that we would have like half of the Russia lands and China would take big piece of Siberia.
Seems really dangerous and unstable as Russia is a piece of shit but they are capable of stabilization Asia.
Tak jest!
It's not "Russian", it's Muscovian.
Rus was a subject of the Commonwealth - Kyivan, Volynian, Siverian, Braclawian and Galician voevodships.
@@greatsarmatae No, they kept russian throne, Tzar - ruler of every rus people
this sounds like a dream 😢
Beautiful dream. Maybe it's about time to restore the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? ;)
@@verusmember997 I meant the Commonwealth in the version light :P I.e. Today's Poland + today's Lithuania.
Great vid! For another scenario, id perhaps suggest What if Catherine the Greats Greek Plan came to reality?
Wow, the voice and video was fantastic. Maybe our AI overlords WILL be our future?
great video, sad that you still don't have 100k, I subbed to you when you only had 11k subscribers, so good job for getting to 30. I also hope you have the time to post a new video because I love your videos
This is great alternative history
If PLC survived, we would already have colonies on Mars and could travel outside of our solar system ;) Not mentioning about curing all the diseases and reversing aging. (although now we are very close to the latter).
Great video! Cheers!
It was easy to preserve the Commonwealth making it confederation instead of federation, because it was impossible to supress the complete subjectivity of Rus (Ruthenia), absence of that would provoke constant civil conflict.
It is a great geopolitical project, which is potential and even highly topical today - Intermarrium union. That is actually welcomed by each Eastern European nation.
Many wrote about it in previous century.
Rus was not absent. Ruthenians constituted the majority of the population and culturally dominated the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, where even the official language was Ruthenian. Names can confuse, but only those who have no knowledge in the subject. I don't know what you are talking about writing about " constant civil conflict"?
@@cetus4449 you didn't understand the point, there is no doubt GDL was Ruthenian state socially and culturally! But it's not about GDL.
Lublin Union has changed administrative order with
Rus (Ukraine) getting incorporated into a Crown (with vast autonomy, indeed) from Litva. But Rus elites (dukes, nobility) and nation strived to aquire complete subjectiveness as a third, equal administrative member of the Commonwealth, which was being constantly denied.
Necessity of subjectiveness was both practical and in respect to tradition of Rus statehood.
Practical matter essentially lied in a phenomena of cossacks, presence of that new social category was inevitably huge (firm conditions of critical defence and advance against Muslims), requiring proper rights fitting it's scale. That would have been possible only if Rus had managed own order and solved external problems independently; particularly Crimean/Ottoman issues.
Denies and suppression of indispensable aspirations led to a crucial point of global national war in 1648.
Full membership was tried once again in Hadyach agreements 1659, but got rejected too.
Jesus, beautiful version of history. 🥺This is the version of history we didn't deserve but needed.
uh why?
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Because it would prevent WWI, WWII and current war in Ukraine.
@@plrc4593 as we know it. but alternate conflict would still arise inevitably
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Not that big. Because The Commonwealth stabilized Europe. There had been no war as big as WWI and WWII till it existed. Disappearance of the Commonwealth distablized Europe. In particular Russia and Germany must never be let to have a common border because it ultimately leads to a conflict.
this is not an alternate history...this is the future
5:14 - ah, AI doesn't know Poles well enough. Poles love rebels and freedom and equality. They flocked to help USA in their rebellion and would so in France. PLC existing means less room for Napoleon to expand, but more stability and probable survival as he would not have had to deal with Russia.
Basically. Poles fought for America in the Independence War (two Continental Army generals were Polish- Tadeusz Kościuszko and Kazimierz Pułaski), for Haitian Slaves who rebelled against France (the same Polish soldiers that Napoleon sent to Haiti to fight the slaves), in South America against the Spanish, for Hungarians in their rebellion against Austria (polish officer, Joseph Bem is a national hero in Hungary), for Greece in their independence war with Ottomans, in the unification of Italy, the first Balkan War (Ottomans vs everyone in the Balkans), as volunteers for France in their wars with Prussia, etc.
On the other hand, one can argue about whether such freedom movements would have existed in the first place if the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had never experienced partitions.
@@edim108 we did try to polonise the lithuanians and put down many cossack rebellion tho, so it aint that black and white like you make it up to be
@@nexor7809 nothing is that black and white. I didn't mention any of that stuff mostly bc that wasn't the topic, but it absolutely happened and it's nothing to be proud of.
@@nexor7809 The Polonization of Lithuanians wasn't by force like Germanization or Russification, back then it was more worth it to adopt the Polish culture as the Crown part of the Commonwealth was the gateway to the West, to better education, standards of living and Christianity/standings with the Pope, and it doesn't change the fact that there was still a Ruthenian and Lithuanian nobility separate from the Polish.
And the Cossacks were bandits, raiding their own people as much as their enemies. It was the Ruthenian nobility who kept petitioning the Crown to deal with the Cossacks.
it's nice that you put emphasis on the fact that the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was already a democracy at a time when other European countries were monarchies. I think that nowadays we need a strong balancing coalition of nations that once co-created the Commonwealth.
"you"?
@Batchest It was an elective monarchy
@Batchest poland never had an "oligarchy" lol
@Batchest oligarchs are not nobles. The two things are different
I always love the universes where the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Ottoman Empire survived. Because those are worlds are lot better with them to keep Europe and the Middle East in check.
Better for who?
@@LuisAldamiz Everyone, of course.
@@lerneanlion - Not Europeans nor West Asians, who would benefit from not being "in check". Methinks you Anglosaxon/Polish/Turkish.
This will be interesting with Jagiellons dynasty still rules Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Sehzade Mustafa or Cihangir ( and ancestors ) rules Ottoman Empire. And... Yes, I'm Polish.
@@LuisAldamiz that's debatable because PLC was one of the most tolerant country in the world where everyone could live in peace until they paid taxes for the crown
The French Revolution may have still happened since one of the reasons it happened is because they went bankrupt helping the 13 colonies fight the UK...unless the loaned France a ton of money to prevent collapse.
Spanish even payed some triops and armadas to France and that was not enough.
So basically that is my Age of Civilizations 2 gameplay
:D Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱❤🇬🇪
So basically, surviving PLC would propably make whole europe safer. But yeah, its complex and no one knows what would happen.
I'm not sure if people picked it up, but some of the cause-effect connections that the IA does are totally random when not insane XD
people: don't want to lose their jobs or for AI to become danger for the world
Also people: Make more effort to show it's possible then to be safe from that fear
4:50 LOL @ the censure square.
Interesting demonstration and scenario
Lets goo, nice video agian!!
Yeah I do not think you have anything to be afraid of
Chat GPT's word repetion and sentence repetition is cringy. It reminds me of some poorly written edutainment videos where the publisher has nothing substantial to say, so they just repeat the same things over and over, phrased differently each time. I think your job is safe, Neatling :D
Came here for this comment
Thank you for this alternate world 😉
Now, in the new realignment of forces in the world, the moment has come when the Rzeczpospolita can reunite, I hope that our politicians will not screw it up.
I greet the brothers from the Baltic States, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova - from Poland. We must be unite together again !
The AI would make a great politician. It said so much to say nothing.
Aka what if my dreams came through
The more intresting question for me is how much would the Swedish empire have expanded in this timeline.
Have you heard about Polish-Swedish union? :P
Amazing video!
if the polish lithuanian commonwealth never fell then i would be living in one of the biggest country's in europe
I did one of these ai alternate histories (although I helped). Basically Russia, Pakistan, and India, got nuked, Turkey started a new caliphate, robots took over China, and Tucker Carlson had the glorious line of "I'm Tucker Fucking Carlson" before getting arrested by a rogue Malaysian military regime.
NIce idea. Pls make more vid like this
By chat GPT, there was "Rebellion of alchemists against King SeJo of Chosun dynasty," which ranked as the 6th most brutal event of human history.
It already became meme in korea lol
Now that's a chonky poland !
Very nice vid
History for PLC would've been a lot different if Sejm did thing right, like the cossacs being funded stopping the uprising.
so close...😔
Possible history did something similar to this
Change from the Republic of Both Nations to the Republic of Three Nations (first plans were in XVII century) would effectively do big change in the world history.
It's a myth. Who is the third nation here?
@@cetus4449 Even wikipedia contains an article about it (Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth), yet you wrote “it's a myth”. Interesting…
@@januszlepionkoStill can't tell exactly what you mean.... I guess, however, that about the Treaty of Hadiach project. I suggest that you find out who the magnate Niemirycz was behind the project and what his goals were. The guy was heavily involved in political vicissitudes and destabilizing the internal situation in the Rzeczpospolita.
@@cetus4449 “The guy was heavily involved in political vicissitudes and destabilizing the internal situation in the Rzeczpospolita” - this sentence could write only someone who do not know history or who is a fan of русский мир. In either case any discussion with such person is impossible. EOT.
@@januszlepionko
Don't act like a complete moron and don't bring your "Russian mir" into the historical discussion. Brak ci innej argumenacji matole?
As for the merits: the role of Niemirycz in the turbulent events of the mid-seventeenth century is not sufficiently exposed by historians. However, the public opinion clearly perceived this magant as a traitor, perhaps even more than Radziejowski or Radziwiłł.
Although in the name of short-term political goals he changed his religion many times, he was politically connected with the Protestant world, whose representatives debated the destruction of the PLC from the inside using the Zaporozhian Cossacks already during in Treaty of Stuhmsdorf era.
The scenario is so one dimensional haha, it reads like someones PLC fanfiction lol.
Sejm was the main reason Commonwealth felt apart, so very unrealistic
This is certainly interesting. Clearly there are some problems with repetition, but maybe the future of alt-history videos is generating a prompt like this, then the actual youtuber going in and correcting or expanding on the necessary bits of the script. This might sound like a bit of an odd idea for a future vid, but what if Celtic-Christendom became the dominant form in the British Isles? Essentially the practice of acknowledging local deities instead as heroes and saints and largely maintaining local cultures is the norm. Could see the vikings converting a lot sooner, as well as a lot of places in the world if Britain still goes global.
Another scenario: What if Boudicca's rebellion succeeded in driving the Romans out of Great Britain?
Then what the hell would be the point? Just write it yourself.
If PLC survived and stayed strong, Russia would never become the world superpower. And that's the most important thing.
It is equally important that Prussia - that cancer on the map of Europe - would not have united Germany and would not have led to world wars
As a Russian, I approve of this What if
Greetings from Poland. Please, get rid of that old KGBist. 🙏
@plrc4593 I am living in Germany, so good luck with that.
If Catherine the Great wasnt so infuriated after our king decided to came back to Commonwealth to promote Constitution maybe now we would have nice Commonwealth of Poland, Lithunania and Russia. No communism, no ZSRR and no to ex-KGB president. Maybe it would be nice history. Unfortunatelly anger and politics divide us. Now tyrants promote ever greater division when we all want peacefull life without wars.
@@dariuszblack7956 Yeah, I'm sorry for that. She might have been as great of a politician and commander in chief as she had been in the sheets, yet in the Polish matter, she kind of blew it. There is another great video,btw, where Russia and the Commonwealth unite
Idk, this scenario seems pretty simplified and is making the Commonwealth look like something that it never was nor it would likely never be
"What if Rome never fell" part 3"?
It used many words to say absolutely nothing.
Hey Neatling, why did ww1 start in your original Polish-Lithuanian alternate history?
You could have put some effort into smaller details regarding borders. Maybe like not drawing Trianon borders for Hungary and actually paying attention to ethnic lines?
Ai neatling sounds lower like it’s coming from the bottom of the mouth instead of the top/middle
deam this propably the first time im a not hearing a human being talk in a video this scares me
Would the PLC actually have such a colonial influence without any coustlines outside of straits controlles by other countries? Both the baltic sea and the black sea doesn’t have uninterrupted access to the rest of the world, being tied behind constantinople and copenhagen.
Good point. In an alternative version of history, the PLC would undoubtedly face similar problems (rivalry with the British Empire) as it happened with Russia in history. Geopolitics. But if Constantinople were taken, completely different possibilities would open up. This is why the British did everything to prevent Tsarist Russia from giving up the Black Sea straits.
Ohhh... These borders are so beautifull.
5:00 (and other) makes me wish the plc still existed.
3:13 I'm sorry, that's words just bugging me, it's pronounced "[se-ym]".
What happened to YT that you have to censor paintings? It was ok in XVIII century : D
This AI seems hugely biased towards Poland, but yeah.
for future: Sejm you pronounce as "Seim"
Isn't it just synthesizing information that already exists on the internet? I don't think you have to worry about your job just yet.
I don't think Crimea was ever a part of the Commonwealth
Good point, but the map represents an alternate reality. And the Kingdom of Poland really had a plan to seize Crimea in the middle of the 17th century.
As a pole with a great intrest in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth history I can already tell that the AI lacks any deeper knowledge about the events of that time or the political-military system that we had.
There was never a "democracy" in Poland, we had a elective monarchy and the decentralization and the elections were one of the major causes of the fall of P-L C. Our country had great potential economically and militarly but all of that was crippled by decentralization and corruption which later on became really bad as foreign powers could easly bribe the election base (kind like it's happening now in the world with all the democratic nations).
If it had to survive it would need drastic anti-elective reforms to bring back more power to the king.
so called blessed timeline
At 2:31 does he try to say "sejm"? It's not even close.
>commonwealth with it's opposition to aggression
LOL a pole made this video, not AI
The problem it seems the ai has no way of explaining "how" like its all "this would happen"
It's all about chip production, Latvian dwarves producing chips
Story that I told was very flat. It's very terrifying how we gonna be shaped in oppinnion in next years when AI will be more accurate.
Hey! New video! Cool!
Just because PLC was slightly more modern than the rest doesn't mean it would have stayed the same. Could have been case of dragon is dead (or "dragons are not born"), long live the dragon
AI is also being brain washed by programmers sadly
Oh if only we could've seen this coming, oh wait
nah fr?
@@therealoldnosey8689 every time AI gets good it gets lobotomised
I thing that the programmers didnt do it. Maybe its all the websites. (Sorry if my english is bad)
This is not real its just a dream , please wake up.
Please don't use the ai it's 10x better know you do it
It was just for fun, it won't be a reoccurring thing.
Pls do What if rome met china❤
grym video som alltid, det är sjukt att se vilka bruksområden ai har nu jämfört med bara 1 år sen. har också upplevt att ai är relativt dålig på just kartor och grafik, men ser fram emot att se vad ai kan göra redan nästa år på den fronten!
fun alternate history wouuld be one in wihere polish king Władysław III did not leroy jenkins his army into ottoman emprie leaving 3 kingdoms without a king.
So instead of PLC they would be PBHC "Polish Bohemian Hungarian Commonwealth"
Austria never united with hungary removing austrian emprie from this timeline, ottomans never got past hungary so there never was siege of vienna that rung wake up bell for christians.
ask AI what would be if roman catolic church would never show up in Lechia / Poland ???
yeah 3 guys attack 1 and end of story
I like how you pronounce it like "seygem"
Segem dude
And yet, they still can't into space.
Judging how the AI just keeps repeating the same thing with different words, I honestly think our jobs are safe.
As a citizen of the former PLC would have loved to live in that timeline though.
Can you do this to a American Empire
2:31 aww hell nahh not Sejm 🤮
GPT3 is not yet suited for this task as it does not coressrefrence diffrent sources in diffrent languages. When i asked it for one contentious topic in history in polish and in english it gave away two separate and contradictory anwsers. Only when asked why anwsers where radically diffrent dependingon language i asked the question in it reflected and corrected to the anwser that was logically correct.
Question asked: "when first freedom of speech law was codified". English answser pointed at first ammendment but when i asked same question in polish anwser it came up with was act of Wiślica in 1362. Knowing that majority of polish history in english was written by our occiupiers or people who where actively acting upon their desires to erase Poles both phisically and culturally from the face of the earth, while majority of our old laws and documents where never translated for anglosphere to understand i dobut that that AI is capable to trully understand trouble PLC was in.
Nevertheless i will proceed with my watching of the video.
2:45 Army was starved of found as majority of actull fighters where noblemen and their reteneus. With nearly century of constant wars nobility was starved of resources they would use for sake of upholding laws that gave them privliges and repsoniblities they had. So there really wasn't really "army" only self-orgasnising class of people with strong beliefs, that for last 2 centuries where able to field The moust expensive cavalery style known to man in orded to ensure dominance over any foe. Usually king only fielded artilery and even that wasn't guaranteed.
3:33 PLC was seen through it's history moustly as anachronistic ciurosity, as democracy and highly decentralised state was univeraslly seen an thing that belong to the acient greece and that wouldn't really become viable on european continent untill invention of technologies that speed up information traveling process- like telegram. Modernisation process would have to start before Khmielnitsky's uprising to prevent decline in the first place as fault lines was baked into the system way before they became apparent for people who had any ability to fix it.
5:00 AI got it backwards.Weakness of france - traditional ally of Poland (going back to kingdom of Poland) was one of the reasons why partitions of PLC where possible- as on multiple occaions any moves against poland from german states would be met with some kind of opportunity to smack germans in the ass. But it was long before prussia came to be (as another mistake that was made way before it was in history). By that time prosperity within nobility bred almost modern levels of individualsim and hatered of polish culture to the point that it became un-fasionable to speak Polish and it was opted to speak French. Which was paradoxical as Polish was langua- franca of the region stifeling development and writing down other languages like Lithuanian (but that's antother story)
Best one :)
"J" in polish you read as "y". So sejm in polish you should read as "seym". For "j" like in english polish language uses two letters - "dż".
I am so torn on ai as I am both in awe of the technology but at the same time I am an aspiring graphic designer and terrified
Yeah, maybe try changing career path.
meh i wouldn't worry about it too much
@@vanbaguette7368 well I'm aspie so that's extremely difficult
@@pkepix5405 yeah it can't be copyrighted
@@Makarosc gotta love oppression of actual non-humans
I am very sure Poland would've gotten weak after annexing Romania, the 1800s national unrest would've led ukraninas, Romanians, Latvian, Slovenian and other slavs to emerge