MINILOGUE XD MODULE - what's new? + how to set up polychain & wish list for future updates
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The sound of the xd is so nice to me , ive had mine packed away and was jamming with other gear but hearing it on this has made me decide to get it out .
I’ve been wanting a Minilogue for like 2 years now and I’m really glad I waited because it’s only gotten better. I have plenty of keyboards/controllers and space is limited so this is perfect for me. My first synth was the Monologue and I love the design and the sound.
Love the wallpaper! We almost did our kitchen in that paper. I love my minilogue too! I got one thanks to watching your videos about it. Bought it like a month before they announced the XD...oh well...so it goes. Also dig your videos and sounds, thanks! Keep up the good work. Love coffee too!
Thank you so much, i struggled deciding to get the minilogue xd module, but now i do know what i need, much love Bo!
HEY! Before you comment "why don't you just play the two synths together without polychain" let me explain. I seem to have been unclear in the video. This is because I honestly thought this was a pretty simple, but niche, idea.
Polychaining commonly refers to you connecting two or more synths together combining the polyphony and playing the same sound on each device. There are two things going on: sharing the polyphony and sharing the sound settings.
Now in this video I describe an idea I have: what if you could have the polyphony sharing but not the shared sound setting. This would not be layering. This would not be split. This would be a hybrid form of polychaining. The main reason I use the word polychain is because of the context of this video. I think most get that I don't mean that this is 100% pure polychain, its just some weird version of it. Using parts of the polychain functionality for another purpose. Someone likely have a better name for it.
Now what would this be useful for? Well it would give you access to 8 voices from one units keyboard, but with control of the sound being available on each synth. Practical example: imagine creating a square wave patch. You want to create a big soundscape. With polychain enabled you can do PWM for all 8 voices. The PWM will be identical for each of the 8 voices. Which is ofc what you'd expect with polychain. Imagine now that you remove the master control of the LFO. Suddenly you can have 4 voices with one PWM setting and 4 with another. Just as when you layer sounds this would be cool to create a more complex sound. But instead of layering it (having max 4 note polyphony) you could have 8 notes of polyphony. So you could play a big chord. Add to this say a slightly different filter sweep for each of the two synths.
Niche. Probably. Cool? Yeah I think so. You don't have to agree.
P.S if "polychaining" would be allowed for XD + original Minilogue it would be this very same hybrid form. If someone has a fun name for it let me know.
Well wait a minute. What happens if you adjust the PWM setting on the slave after you've selected the patch on the master? Or if you change the slave's patch? I don't have a XD module yet so I can't test this. What happens? I don't think poly chaining would prevent you from doing this - the master has no way of knowing that something has changed on the slave. Then you'd have different PWM settings on the master and the slave.
One additional caveat - to get the effect I think you're going for here, you'd need the master to alternate notes with the slave in polychain - that is, the master playing notes 1 - 3- 5 - 7 and the slave playing 2 - 4 - 6 - 8. I'm not sure if the minilogue does that, but I think the midipal does. Hope that helps!
i talk about this in the video: the settings of the slave is locked to the master. You can't change anything on the slave basically.
@@BoBeats You can't adjust the slave from its own controls when in slave mode? If so that's a bummer, and Korg could easily fix it. But, couldn't you set up patches with the same number on both synths, with slightly different settings? For that not to work, the master would have to be overwriting the slave's patch. I'm really curious now as to what's going on here.
I just updated my own XD and connected it to a midi monitor to see what is happening in poly mode. Unless Korg is doing something that doesn't even show up as a midi message in Midi monitor, the master is just sending program and bank changes to the slave, and is not overwriting the slave's patch. So you should be able to save different versions of a patch to the same program number on each device, and get the effect you're looking for. Just take the slave out of polychain mode, alter the patch, save it, and re-enter slave mode. Worth a try.
Thats a cool work-around! Could work. Need to give this a try
Drooling over this synth I love it so much... Thank you for this thorough overview...
Doing some research on the XD module. Even 3 years ago you were a master at video making. Love the presentation style and editing here!
Ill tell you what, at first I wasn't sure about Bo I watched a video on a synth I was looking at and it didn't give me the answers I needed. Since then I only go to BoBeats for his reviews, dude is a solid synth guy and he always gives an honest opinion without talking too much.. I am a subscriber now. Thanks for this one bo
Great video! I am looking forward to adding the Minilogue XD module to my set up. Can't wait to polychain them together! A++++++++++++++++++
Just bought one today. I’m beyond exited. Can’t wait for it to get here:
I ordered one a couple of weeks ago, and was told that it might be available just before Christmas. Luckily I have had a text message saying that my package will be delivered tomorrow. Wow. Great. So should be getting this on Friday. A whole weekend to start with the XD Module :)
I'm happy that korg have now added a live transpose function to the mini & monologue, which ive always considered to be a de rigueur function with built in sequencers.
That's what is still needed for the XD, and then it'll be the dog's dangly bits!
For original Minilogue owners buy the $100 Nutekt and get the digital oscillator and the effects. MIDI control the Nutekt and have 5 voices and then run the audio of the Minilogue through the input of the Nutect to get the great effects missing on the Minilogue.
I think they could probably add a software filter in the firmware to polychain the units as you describe. They would just need the software to filter out the CC and PC data, only sending every other note to the chained device. Now will they? Questionable.
I have bought the XD White. Cool Multi-Engine with an Yamaha DX 2 OP Generator ;-) I love the Sound!
Great suggestions for future feature requests. Hopefully Korg can take them on board.
It seems like a pretty good idea for the module it is like a sound module from the late 1980s or early 1990s with contemporary cues. Thanks for the video sir.
Imo korg did the best Job on this Synth!
Even the regular xd .... i use it a looot.
Good Video as usual mr Bo :)
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It sounds so good, and the polychaining is amazing...
The 'get your hands dirty' method would be an Arduino MIDI splitter project, that takes IN from a keyboard and cycles the MIDI channel on the OUT round robin. Or some kind of firewall that you put in between. Reverse engineer which commands it sends for controlling the slaves timbre and then filter them out.
Other than some unpredictable behavior I can't really see an use case for it, but hey, it would be fun to build such thing!
Hey Bo - If you want to layer two different sounds using an XD keys and module, just turn polychain off and set them to the same midi channel :-)
yes, but then you can’t use polychain for building bigger chords :-)
Absolutely agree that there should be the option of round robin polyphony without slaving the CC commands.
I just got the original minilogue but i think imma buy this new beast i love it 😍
Still my favourite hardware synth I own goes nice with the blowfield
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If Polychain on original minilogue Korg definitely will take my money on that module. Commented faster than the video ended....haha.
all is explained in the video ♥️
Hmm it actually sounds pretty good in this vid. Maybe I have to search TH-cam again in a moment. One thing I miss on the XD though is the noisy delay from the original Minilogue.
I do like that this Module version is more compact and just use the sequencer as a keyboard (though not velocity sensitive I guess). Would fit better into my room. And I actually think that it looks better than the keys version as well. But that's a minor.
Love it! Bring more poly to the people!
I’ve got a question, I don’t want another monologue xd, I have ordered the desktop but the question on the original monologue may apply to my question. What about adding the the NTS 1 and/ or 2? Now how cool would that be?
i couldn't wait, so i got the normal version with keyboard. very happy with it. maybe get the module later to polychain ;)
@Andrew Mwah Sounds like a good trade, if possible. You won't loose anything but the keys of the OG. The Module is also a standalone synth, so you would still have 2 Minilogue to play separately, just like now, only that you can Chain if you want. More choice. I would do the same. In fact, i am currently contemplating to swap the MicroFreak with the Module, but i am happy with just the solo-XD for now.
I really wish they would enhance the synth in poly chain by giving us 2 LFO and 2 Filters and 2 Mod ENV .. (and not just lock down the entire unit when used as slave)
That's a waste somehow. Imagine 8 voices with those modulation options on top. Would have increased the value. As it stands you only get 4 more voices and i am not so sure if would be satisfied with the limited programmability. It is still the "same synth" in the end - just phatter! Hmm..
Bought the key today too ;-) my first synth ever, and if I look at my studio I am scared I will dive in :-) can’t wait to run it through my Binson Echorec and a S76 Tape Delay...man I think it will be soooooo cool. Thanks for your vids!
@@6stringks Great choice! Enjoy! :)
I got my XD keyboarded version about a week ago. I love it and it will make a great addition to my studio AND live rig.
I am considering the XD Module as well so I can get 8-voice poly for the system. I love how it works and sounds.
I wonder, though, if putting a MIDI Thru box between the Master and Slave unit(s) would open up the polyphony a bit further. Say you buy a MIDI Thru box that has 4 output ports on it (like the MIDI Solutions Quadra Thru) and then hook up potentially up to 4 Minilogue XD Modules in that fashion. Would that allow for up to 16-voice polyphony? It would be neat to see if it could work...
I think that I will ping Korg and see if that is an option or not.
Great videos, thank you, sir :)
This was going to be my question too. I think because the Quandra Thru is just that; a thru / splitter box, each of the slave Minilogues would all just play the same notes. You would need an active splitter like the Event Processor or the Blokas MIDI Hub to perform some manipulation and routing of the MIDI messages to achieve the aim of a round-robin polychain of 16 notes. Or you could buy something like the Conductive Labs NDLR which supports polychaining of up to four devices and 22-note polyphony of the PAD part.
but why even if no key the cost is the same of key version? never seen before a module at same price of keyb vrsn
I was thinking about getting this one as my first synth after getting a controller (per your guide on building a hardware synth setup).
Arturia Keystep is great, I have one! It has a 64-step sequencer built-in and the key bed is phenomenal for the cheap price. I've never even considered such a quality build for so cheap. You can get it used on Reverb for $100. $130 brand new.
I didn't buy one because of the keyboard. Now I'm thinking of buying the module. I wonder if it's possible to connect the Keystep Pro Pitch Mod and Gate Voice outputs to the module so I can use that for a keystep pro track.
Hello. I have a question about polychaining. Can you please check if the keyboard can be used simultaneously on two polychained units having different octave settings? I have seen a video where the octave is shifted on the master but the slave keeps the original led indicator setting. Maybe it is just a bug. I would be curious for two keyboard version polychained. Having one keyboard in the lowest octave and the other in the heighest for example and playing notes on both. Thanks.
you could only do different sounds with 4 voices each sound, but you could do it with one midi controller keyboard that will split, such as a keylab
Polychaining the original with the xd would be huge. 🧐
They have a different sound engine, so this wouldn't work.
I think it could work: its just a form of midi triggering. So why shouldn’t it work?
@@BoBeats MIDI note triggering, yes. But not full syncing control. Controlling the parameters beyond obvious ones (cutoff and others), many parameters couldn't be in sync because they're different. Unless they went with your simplified idea of just note triggering, etc.
@@aeko yeah ofc, it would have to be simply giving us a way to extent the polyphony of the master, but ofc no parameter control. So a sort of limited polychain.
Great video! Quick question for you... Am I able to use my Alesis V25 USB MIDI with the XD Module or they need to be directly connected to one another? Also, what is your metal rack holding the XD module? Thanks for your help!
great video !! looks like fun product & only expect the best from Korg dont ever give up Bo we love you
It's a bit bizarre that the module and keyboard are both €659 at Thomann. I tend to prefer modules since they take up less space (if you already have a MIDI keyboard), and are usually a bit cheaper. In this case the keyboard version looks like a better option, and it should have a higher resale value too.
I'm in the market for an analog poly, but I'm still leaning more towards the Deepmind 12D. The XD definitely has some advantages, but also more limitations - only 4 voices, no full ADSR for the filter, fewer modulation routings and effects.
Its straight up bad compared to the deepmind 12
Hmmm it’s subjective of course but when I briefly had a Deepmind I found I was doubling the osc up as they were so thin sounding so it was more like a 6 note poly. I don’t think numbers are really the point though - it comes down to which sounds better to you and which user interface you gel with. For me again too much menu diving on the Deepmind. It also felt like it was made out of plastic intended more for food packaging. So thank you Korg for going for quality rather than headline figures. Horses for courses of course and some love their Deepminds. Just as long as other synth manufacturers don’t feel forced to compete that’s cool with me.
i got this as my first synth. im kinda new to all of it so this question might be dumb. but is it possible to rack this module into those vertical thingies or with eurorack gear? i want to create a vertical setup for the sake of ergonomics. or do you know of any kind of mod that would allow the xd module to be racked? i cant find any documentation on it... thanks in advance
Hi, your reviews are really good and thanks for that. I'm confused between Roland SE-02 and Korg Minilogue XD. What's your suggestion? I miss the polyphony in SE-02 a lot and don't have budget for polychaining ..
Thank you for finally being the first person to clarify that you actually need a four channel audio interface in order to make this poly chain happen. For some reason nobody else on TH-cam even mentions this in any way shape or form. I find that incredibly ignorant that these stupid TH-cam channels don’t get the fact that people are going to have these kinds of questions. With that being said I now have to purchase a new audio interface because my apogee duet only has two channels.
Would be clever if all of the voices were channeled to just one output on each unit, so you could still have everything on just one stereo-pair.
You can do that anyway - just plug in one output on each synth and you'd get exactly what you're suggesting.
So all you're getting in a polychain is another 4 voices? If you could manipulate each unit independently, it would add a lot more value. Most people wouldn't even be able to hear the difference between 4 and 8 voices...
To me the price point doesn’t make sense. An $80 difference between the module and the keyboard version?
i have wondered about this too. My guess is that they don’t view it as a cheaper option, but rather a different version.
They're the same price in the UK!
simple keybeds aren't expensive, you can get a semi weighted fatar keybed with aftertouch for less than 100, and let's be honest while minilogues keybed ain't that bad, it's not fatar :)
Hello, excellent, I am trying to control the minilogue xd module from an external sequencer to play several sounds with different patterns at the same time but I can't, the minilogue xd only allows me to play one sound, how can I achieve this? thanks greetings
What is the price point?
You have made me want this. Sounds stunning
It cost same like keys ... Where is a sense of module version of keys synthesizers? /module is cheaper version of keys, unexpected - because there s no keys
wherever I look for the minilogue xd the module is 100 more than the version with keys. Ultralight gear is always expensive lol
Likin’ the wallpaper ! Do the snozzberries taste like snozzberries?
What a gorgeous synth Bo
Hey, I've tried using my Keystation61 mk3 keyboard's MIDI out going into my Epilogue XD's MIDI input in slave mode....nothing happens. Any ideas why this would be happening? Thanks for any help.
Hi guys.....anyone got this module that could help me out? I seem to have a dead key when using the little keyboard. Its weird because it seems to be usable when selecting options from the menu....like global settings for example. But when it is in keyboard mode it doesn't trigger any sound. Thanks in advance....I'm assuming I've been ripped off slightly and its not just a strange feature
Can you polychain more than two..?
Not that I know
If it were possible to integrate the original minilogue with this unit in polychain, I wouldn’t hesitate picking this unit up. Does polychain allow 8 note polyphony or 4 note polyphony by just stacking two voices per note?
8 voice, 8 note, polyphony
Awesome. Thanks, Bo!
I just bought a new desktop minilogue xd, it's being delivered tomorrow. I didn't realize that you could link it with another synth, and play simultaneously with polychain. I'm looking forward to getting into hardware. I also bought a grand canyon fx pedal to run synths through. Hopefully someday I'll be able to afford the big boy synths, but Korg is doing awesome things for us producers on a budget. I also respect Aurturia for their affordable gear, but they're getting out of hand with the Microfreak prices. I was going to buy one, but they're $400 new now, and I would rather buy other hardware that is around $400.00. The Brutes are far more appealing to me, and they're not much more on reverb used, and in mint condition. I think they're going to hurt their sales charging $400.00. I may buy one used sometime down the road, unless the used market keeps going up too.
I wonder why they call it the Minilogue "XD." Sometimes in my head I call it the "Minilogue Haha"
i alwaya read it like Minilogue 😂
It's really xd though, not XD ;)
@@GuidoGautsch I still read it the same :P lots of people use them interchangeably
Hi do you get a poping on start up with your Xd as I'am
Kind of sucks that my Roland System 1m isn't enough, awesome though it is. Really craving the Korg as a Plan B, with or without keyboard.
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I think the module is great. I can save a couple bucks and use my full size midi keyboard and have all the fun and benefits of having a minilogue XD. Bravo Korg.
Is it possible to pan the stacked voices in the stereo field...? Been trying to find out by watching several XD videos but none of them have addressed the panni g part.
why the module version is not much cheaper than the original ?
Hi Bo can you tell me what size the keys are on the xd ? could the poly chaining work with other synths such as a volca fm2 ?
Hmmm
Should I pick the Minilogue XD over the DeepMind 12?
And why?
Picked up the DeepMind 12 and I love it,getting the Minilogue XD soon.Different filter ,different layout gotta have it.
nice one -can you comment on uisng the Minilogue (original) with the XD module?
I don't want to buy another Minilogue with no aftertouch on the keys but I like the module additions
So is there anyway to stack the two units in poly chain?
4 voices, 4 oscillators, controlled by one interface?
Sounding great! Someday soon..
I just got the module, since there's no other cheap poly from Korg for the moment. With the Minilogue I want to think that I have a Mono/Poly or a Polysix.
The thick bass patch is very Polysixy
Can you have two different sequences going at the save time If you poly chain them?
doesn't look like it's rack mountable, that's a minus for me - other than that, the xd module looks like the most interesting korg product in some time
You are correct. It is not rack mountable. I asked some Korg reps at a synth expo. I don't know why they gave it those overhanging "ears" if you can't mount it. When I asked why it wasn't rack mountable, they said that the engineers didn't want to have to change the layout - it's exactly the same face as the normal XD. Sounds like a, erm, less-than-perfectly-planned project that tacked on this feature/product variant late in the development cycle and probably too expensive to change. Still though, better to have the desktop version than not I guess.
That first sequence very blade runner esc!
When he started playing the sequence buttons we got a taste of Michael Jackson
Coffee is the answer
i just got a ju-06a but i am dying for one of these. would you recommend owning one alongside or instead of the ju-06a?
Can you create sequences by recording incoming midi notes?
I wish it was rack mountable.
Oh yes!
Is it true the Korg Minilogue XD sound metallic? If that’s true, could it sound warm with some tweaking and effects?
I feel like I need a synth that has a warm sound
It sounds fantastic. I actually sold my sequential Rev2 16 voice and bought an XD. I’m getting a module to do with it for 8 voice polyphony. It sounds huge, and warm, when you want it to, but with the digital oscillator it’s just way more interesting than the rev 2. It’s also more fun to program I think. It’s great.
Hello friends! I have a question from the korg minilogue xd module. Can it be used as a single instrument (stand alone), without connecting any controller, or keyboard? By the way if I connect something I have the electribe 2
Thank you
why is this and the key version the exact same price!?
no one knows
Great videos :) About poly chain does it means with 2 xd,s you can make sounds with 6 ( 2x3 ) different osc settings ?
Question - instead of two Minilogues, why wouldn’t a person get a Prologue 8 instead? Benefits of having two Minilogues instead?
Sequencers, you have two synths. Two things i can think of. But prologue is a good choice too
@@BoBeats yeah…I guess the sequencers are the reason. I don’t plan on using the sequencer. Food for thought - perhaps I need the Prologue with the extra voices. Tough call.
Can i get pr.note pitch-bend with this? I would love to use this with my Linnstrument.
can u polychain between a prologue and a minilogue or a minilogue and a nutk ?
No
Coming to this video two years on. Were there any further firmware updates on the polychaining?
Not that I am aware of
@@BoBeats That's a shame. Still, it looks like a capable synth and I'm pretty sure I can get it to polychain with the NDLR if needed.
Hi Bo, say please, can i connect Minilogue (classic) with XD Module? and make main output from module? because module have reverbs
No
Been trying to buy a minilogue Xd for months..... I think it’s vaporware... can’t find them anywhere.
What stand are you using?
The original minilogue is a good instrument but sadly it got abandoned by the engineers soon after it was released - there would have been a lot of stuff possible via firmware updates (as with the novation bass station) but nothing happened. It seems like korg is a very profit driven company and they don't develop instruments to their fullest potential just to be able to bring out a successor..
they just dropped a big update for the original Minilogue and Monologue, so I am not sure this really holds up
@@BoBeats Thanks, I did not know this! Ok, they haven`t completely forgotten the original minilogue users but let's be honest: compared to what novation are doing with their updates it's really modest - more like some missing features that really should have been in place for a long time..
you have the hands of a virgin angel dear sir.
It's out? I haven't even been able to get the key version of it.
anyone know when it starts shipping?
You can buy an 8 Voice Prologue for roughly a hair over $1K ........just thinking out loud.
yepp, stick around til post 12 min
That's true.... maybe Korg will make a table top version of the Prologue next? I don't really need another full sized keyboard :)
Give us Prologue Module
Sans sequencer tho. :(
The xd looks nicer though with them blue leds and screen, it just needs the tube compressor on it.
Is it possible to polychain the xd to an original Minilogue?
Edit: I really should wait for the end of the video before I comment...
Hey Bo!!! So, I've been looking at the Novation Peak for a while now... to pair w my XD and Bass Station 2.... but now that the Summit is coming out, I'm not sure if I should just snatch that up instead!!!? Just curious as to what your opinion would be in this scenario between the 2!!!??
-Thanks Bo!!!! Your knowledge and input have been really helpful to me along the way, keep up the awesome work!!!!!
i’d say that the main reason to get a summit is if you really want that keyboard or the extra polyphony. Functionally they are almost identical
@@BoBeats That's a 500 dollar decision there.... think I'm gonna go w the peak then!!!! Thanks again man!!!!😎
Surely when you're asking about poly chaining between the original and module you're simply describing layer the two rather than poly chaining? You can already do that with midi, likewise with playing different sounds/sequences on two XDs at the same time, you don't need to chain them to do that, just play the second one with midi from the first one..
No I want polychaining but with individual control of each device. Not layering. Not split. Polychain notes, but without having controls locked to the master.
This would kinda have the prerequisite that they share common patches, no? Or if you could control the voice allocation to alternate between the two devices with every consecutive note perhaps, to interweave two different patches together... But 4 notes of patch A then 4 notes of patch B then repeat would probably be a little jarring.
I'm not really sure if I should go for the keyboard or without it. I have a midi keyboard with 88 keys so the module version would be a better option or?
Yeah is good option, the module version.
I can't get my head around it: why did they use a state of the art display on the right next to programming, but a seemingly lousy 80s one on the left. I find it weird on a "modern" device. it's a bit hard to read unless you get really used to it. back to the future! xD