We know the collectors were not completely wiped out when shepard blew up/preserved the station they lived on. That said, what happened to them after the Reaper conflict? Once their reaper/collector connection was lost, most died. But what happened to the once that survived?
Same thing that happened to the races indoctrinated in the previous cicles after the reapers left, they go insane, starved to death or simply do nothing and stand still because they can't think for their own anymore.
After ME2 they existed in more limited (no Base) form for Harbinger's use in battles Shepard is not involved with. Probably employed in similar use to before - neutralizing colonies.The resistance to this (people probably now knowing how the Collectors work) probably reduced their numbers further. With optional Leviathan involvement, the Leviathans sometimes utterly dominate Collector body-minds (biomechanical construct race), without care for their safety. When Leviathans detatch from Collectors, the race collapses as defective units that required connection to Harbinger (or previously their 'General', itself created to have quantum entangle control by Harbinger) to operate. In rare occasions, the Collector unit actually survives. This may be due to enough 'concentrated' genetic material to create a form of pseudo-consciousness, a Prothean race identity (based on how Prothean genetics is 'superior' and has more 'memory' in it than other species) and enough operation to 'live' and 'fight'. These become 'Awakened Collectors', with at least enough tactics to fight the Reapers alongside the Milky Way peoples, and at least enough 'hatred' for the Reapers to jump into the fray. After the Reaper conflict, its likely only Collector corpses remain and Awakened Collectors' fate is unknown. At best, they present the basis for a Neo-Prothean race to grow and develop into further consciousness. At worst, they degrade and are quickly useless except as a potential tool for the Milky Way peoples at some point. Sources: ME2, ME3, ME3:Leviathan DLC, ME3 MP updates.
The future of the Protheans? (barring 'untainted' Prothean genetic material is used from Javik or an alternative): vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/9/95/ME3_Awakened_Collector_Adept.png/revision/latest?cb=20130227102752
A keeper general would've been a better final boss fight for ME3 Like the keepers be the ones using the reapers to gather resources for their home on the citadel
The Final fate of the collectors is interesting Mass effect 3 :Reckoning quote from wiki “When the Reaper-killer known as Leviathan fought the Collectors, it severed their connection to Harbinger with a thrall device. Most Collector forces died as a result, but a few survived. Now, these rare individuals fight for the memory of their people, a proud race broken by the Reapers. Protheans appointed avatars to embody and model a single virtue for their society. The Awakened Collectors' virtue is vengeance.”
I always thought the Reaper Harbinger was the one assuming control of individual Collectors. And does he not release his grasp of the Collector General at the end?
sorry but. the collector general was controlled by harbringer and was just "relay" of sorts. so the general himself didin't have power of posession. allso there was just 1 general not multiple ones. *spoilers* this was shown at end of me2 when harbringer's will left the general.
Yes. The General, if freed and of a species able to self-determinate, would have indeed been a command point for the Collectors, but it had no domination power of its own. Using the General as a relay point, Harbinger was able to sustain his invisible indoctrination signal through two layers of units (General, Soldier) without degradation, and the Collectors were biomechanical constructs that would not go mad/dumb from such a process (since they were already drones, made only biological enough as Harbinger could make them). The Collectors don't need the General to operate, but they do need a Reaper, maybe specifically Harbinger. The General and maybe facilities of the Collector Base were required in order for Harbinger to have a strong signal and minimal latency to the Collectors in battle ('Harbinger' units). If ME3 was expanded in content/downloadable content, its certain that the Collectors would have been included in some more intimate battles with Harbinger, no General required.
Primarch Alpharius It's possible that Harbinger was keeping them hidden in case Sovereign failed. I mean, Sovereign had an army of robots. Harbinger probably didn't want to blow his whole load early.
Jake Moore Thing about that is that no one knew except for the shadow broker of where the Collectors came from and thus the Collectors can strike without retaliation. I have no idea how many cruisers the Collectors had but it was apparently was more than 1.
Seems like Collectors were a pet project of Harbinger, so Sovereign had to make his own crew to do his bidding, which he did mainly with geth but also converted human husks. Besides from ME3 is clearly not that hard to make an similar group of foot soldiers once they make contact with pretty much any alien species.
The Collectors are more of a continued pet experiment (perhaps to illustrate some of the autonomy Reapers can have, even within a collective agenda) than a strong space battle asset. Their few ships are singularly clearly powerful enough to take down smaller ones like the Normandy, sure, but their only prowess was in neutralizing colonies/organics (and in side-ME3 canon, that's what their remaining forces continue to try to do). By all this, I mean using them would be 'blowing the load' without much payoff. Sovereign possibly getting the Rachni going (though this is revealed or reconned to more likely be the Leviathans' doing) made some more sense, and getting the Geth going made perfect sense. The Collectors fit the 'just in case' slot, like so much of the Reapers' approaches through ME2 (Alpha relay, maybe activating Cerberus into more direct action than before), to at least destabilize the galaxy before a more direct Reaper invasion. Within trilogy given and developing canon, I'm certain that if Sovereign couldn't have made headways with Saren/Spectres and the Geth (Heretics), it would have finally utilized the Collectors to becoming a more capable war-ready force, instead of otherwise weak-slave force that only utilized/embodied highly advanced technology. A Collector Ship was taken down by an empowered Normandy SR-2. A Collector population is like a swarm, but there's also not a lot of them compared to the armies out there. If Sovereign could have done a hit-and-run on an OPEN Citadel, maybe it could have used them, but even the blitz on the Citadel required a protracted battle while the Citadel was in closed defense mode. Does this made sense?
It most likely had retained most of it's sentience to actually do it's work as collector general. It was nothing but unfit slave made to toil for killers of his culture until something better comes along. Death was release to it's tormented existence.
I wish the Collectors were more explored in ME2, for example they infiltrated Blue Suns, Eclipse and Blood Pack by making a deal: "You give us humans from raids, colonies etc and in exchange we give you extra cool weapons and upgrades to your combat, biotic and tech abilities,", saving the fact that those gifts were making mercs more suspectible to their benefactors and finally making them indoctrinated, especially their leaders. For example: - 3 merc groups hate each other, right? But it would be Collectors who would play on their egos to make them join forces to take down an Archangel (whom the Collectors knew who he really was) and later convinve them to continue this alliance to overthrow Aria and rule Omega. Once in total and tyrannical control of the station, they would give all human citizens to their "friends" all they wanted, completely unaware of the fact that at the same time a renegade band of Blood Pack Vorcha worked with the Collectors to kill every single non-human on Omega (except themselves of course) to become also total masters of the station and hand over human survivors to their "friends". It would make the Collectors more than just infamous Shepard killers, but also evil masterminds, who in truth unofficially controlled whole Terminus System, with Omega being one of the last places where they are not in power and for that they would want Aria dead.
You left out the part about how buff they are on ME3 multiplayer.lol....I hate them. Also, I've played ME2 a dozen times and never noticed you can see the person you sent through the tubes on the final mission. duh
Me: (runs out of ammo) right. Only one thing for it. Hey, Collectors! Look what I got! Collectors: (insect-like clicking) Me: behold! The Mass Effect trilogy box-set! Collectors: ... Me: limited edition, and mint condition! (Throws the box) Collectors: (chasing the box) MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE
There were. They were called husks. Collectors were result of Reapers finding Protheans useless in their main goal of making new Reapers, but they made use of them by making them Protheans.
@@vksasdgaming9472 the topic of collectors is interesting. We don’t know if they can reproduce like other organics and if they can then they would be in billions as they have been around for 50k years.
@@jv3198 As much as Mordin Solus studied them they were utterly incapable of anything living. No culture and reproduction replaced by manufacturing of new drones. Machine parts to replace bits lost to genetic degradation. Not slaves - husks made to throw away. Most Collectors died when their base was nuked, but some remained at large and counter signal of Leviathans broke indoctrination of some remaining ones and they went berserk and attacked Reapers.
I almost stopped playing when Miranda in ME2 was watching the vid the Quarian put together "I think that's a Collectahh!" Here I am, re-reading every Mass Effect codex and not one goddamn mention of this Deus Ex race. What Bioware Could have done is include the lines after the player says "Whats a Collector" and have Miranda/Jacob explain that While Shepard was being put back together (about two years) these fucking bugs started some shit, instead Primarch Alpharious's question breaks the game. When we get to Andromeda were going to realize Salarians have wings and Krogan can spit acid while Asaria can't use Biotics because there is no Mass Effect tech in Andromeda or some shit :/ lazy writing rant/
but you still didnt explain something..... how the fuck do you turn a fish into a bug??? yes yes i know that they were experimented on and all that crap. but still. a fish is a FISH. a bug is a BUG. what the heck is this?????
We know the collectors were not completely wiped out when shepard blew up/preserved the station they lived on. That said, what happened to them after the Reaper conflict? Once their reaper/collector connection was lost, most died. But what happened to the once that survived?
Same thing that happened to the races indoctrinated in the previous cicles after the reapers left, they go insane, starved to death or simply do nothing and stand still because they can't think for their own anymore.
Agustin Alejo Gimenez much appreciated 😊
After ME2 they existed in more limited (no Base) form for Harbinger's use in battles Shepard is not involved with. Probably employed in similar use to before - neutralizing colonies.The resistance to this (people probably now knowing how the Collectors work) probably reduced their numbers further. With optional Leviathan involvement, the Leviathans sometimes utterly dominate Collector body-minds (biomechanical construct race), without care for their safety. When Leviathans detatch from Collectors, the race collapses as defective units that required connection to Harbinger (or previously their 'General', itself created to have quantum entangle control by Harbinger) to operate. In rare occasions, the Collector unit actually survives. This may be due to enough 'concentrated' genetic material to create a form of pseudo-consciousness, a Prothean race identity (based on how Prothean genetics is 'superior' and has more 'memory' in it than other species) and enough operation to 'live' and 'fight'. These become 'Awakened Collectors', with at least enough tactics to fight the Reapers alongside the Milky Way peoples, and at least enough 'hatred' for the Reapers to jump into the fray. After the Reaper conflict, its likely only Collector corpses remain and Awakened Collectors' fate is unknown. At best, they present the basis for a Neo-Prothean race to grow and develop into further consciousness. At worst, they degrade and are quickly useless except as a potential tool for the Milky Way peoples at some point. Sources: ME2, ME3, ME3:Leviathan DLC, ME3 MP updates.
The future of the Protheans? (barring 'untainted' Prothean genetic material is used from Javik or an alternative): vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/9/95/ME3_Awakened_Collector_Adept.png/revision/latest?cb=20130227102752
No they fight along with the other races
*ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL*
Haha this brings back memories
THIS HURTS YOU
Harbinger
"Destroy 1 and 100 will replace it."
"If i must tear you apart, Shepard, I will."
"Preserve Shepard's body if possible."
We fight as one
Liara: Shepard, I heard about you and Harbinger.
Shepard: But he assumed direct control!
The keepers, if you guys find out more about the keepers that'll will be great *sips coffee*
A keeper general would've been a better final boss fight for ME3
Like the keepers be the ones using the reapers to gather resources for their home on the citadel
I don't know if "got better" would be the words I'd use for being brought back from death
The Final fate of the collectors is interesting
Mass effect 3 :Reckoning quote from wiki
“When the Reaper-killer known as Leviathan fought the Collectors, it severed their connection to Harbinger with a thrall device. Most Collector forces died as a result, but a few survived. Now, these rare individuals fight for the memory of their people, a proud race broken by the Reapers.
Protheans appointed avatars to embody and model a single virtue for their society. The Awakened Collectors' virtue is vengeance.”
Collectors are my favorite hands down! They’re on of the coolest alien designs I’ve seen in any media!
For the thumbnail...
*Collectors
I always thought the Reaper Harbinger was the one assuming control of individual Collectors. And does he not release his grasp of the Collector General at the end?
sorry but. the collector general was controlled by harbringer and was just "relay" of sorts. so the general himself didin't have power of posession. allso there was just 1 general not multiple ones.
*spoilers* this was shown at end of me2 when harbringer's will left the general.
Yes. The General, if freed and of a species able to self-determinate, would have indeed been a command point for the Collectors, but it had no domination power of its own. Using the General as a relay point, Harbinger was able to sustain his invisible indoctrination signal through two layers of units (General, Soldier) without degradation, and the Collectors were biomechanical constructs that would not go mad/dumb from such a process (since they were already drones, made only biological enough as Harbinger could make them). The Collectors don't need the General to operate, but they do need a Reaper, maybe specifically Harbinger. The General and maybe facilities of the Collector Base were required in order for Harbinger to have a strong signal and minimal latency to the Collectors in battle ('Harbinger' units). If ME3 was expanded in content/downloadable content, its certain that the Collectors would have been included in some more intimate battles with Harbinger, no General required.
So why didn't Sovereign get the Collectors to help and take on the citadel?
I think of the Collectors as being replacements for the Geth.
Primarch Alpharius It's possible that Harbinger was keeping them hidden in case Sovereign failed. I mean, Sovereign had an army of robots. Harbinger probably didn't want to blow his whole load early.
Jake Moore
Thing about that is that no one knew except for the shadow broker of where the Collectors came from and thus the Collectors can strike without retaliation.
I have no idea how many cruisers the Collectors had but it was apparently was more than 1.
Seems like Collectors were a pet project of Harbinger, so Sovereign had to make his own crew to do his bidding, which he did mainly with geth but also converted human husks. Besides from ME3 is clearly not that hard to make an similar group of foot soldiers once they make contact with pretty much any alien species.
The Collectors are more of a continued pet experiment (perhaps to illustrate some of the autonomy Reapers can have, even within a collective agenda) than a strong space battle asset. Their few ships are singularly clearly powerful enough to take down smaller ones like the Normandy, sure, but their only prowess was in neutralizing colonies/organics (and in side-ME3 canon, that's what their remaining forces continue to try to do). By all this, I mean using them would be 'blowing the load' without much payoff. Sovereign possibly getting the Rachni going (though this is revealed or reconned to more likely be the Leviathans' doing) made some more sense, and getting the Geth going made perfect sense. The Collectors fit the 'just in case' slot, like so much of the Reapers' approaches through ME2 (Alpha relay, maybe activating Cerberus into more direct action than before), to at least destabilize the galaxy before a more direct Reaper invasion. Within trilogy given and developing canon, I'm certain that if Sovereign couldn't have made headways with Saren/Spectres and the Geth (Heretics), it would have finally utilized the Collectors to becoming a more capable war-ready force, instead of otherwise weak-slave force that only utilized/embodied highly advanced technology. A Collector Ship was taken down by an empowered Normandy SR-2. A Collector population is like a swarm, but there's also not a lot of them compared to the armies out there. If Sovereign could have done a hit-and-run on an OPEN Citadel, maybe it could have used them, but even the blitz on the Citadel required a protracted battle while the Citadel was in closed defense mode. Does this made sense?
Feel bad for the collector genral when he regained control only to realize his death was coming.
It most likely had retained most of it's sentience to actually do it's work as collector general. It was nothing but unfit slave made to toil for killers of his culture until something better comes along. Death was release to it's tormented existence.
Rock the Vote.
I wish the Collectors were more explored in ME2, for example they infiltrated Blue Suns, Eclipse and Blood Pack by making a deal: "You give us humans from raids, colonies etc and in exchange we give you extra cool weapons and upgrades to your combat, biotic and tech abilities,", saving the fact that those gifts were making mercs more suspectible to their benefactors and finally making them indoctrinated, especially their leaders.
For example:
- 3 merc groups hate each other, right? But it would be Collectors who would play on their egos to make them join forces to take down an Archangel (whom the Collectors knew who he really was) and later convinve them to continue this alliance to overthrow Aria and rule Omega. Once in total and tyrannical control of the station, they would give all human citizens to their "friends" all they wanted, completely unaware of the fact that at the same time a renegade band of Blood Pack Vorcha worked with the Collectors to kill every single non-human on Omega (except themselves of course) to become also total masters of the station and hand over human survivors to their "friends".
It would make the Collectors more than just infamous Shepard killers, but also evil masterminds, who in truth unofficially controlled whole Terminus System, with Omega being one of the last places where they are not in power and for that they would want Aria dead.
Just when you think they have covered every race.
Still haven't covered the keepers.
I'm binge watching all this to keep up with the new mass effect
i noticed u dont have a video of the rachni i would like to see one please thanks
You guys should do the Rachni next
O' rigins? ASHOOM? Love it.
Please please do one on the Rachni! 😁
Reminds me how absolutely amazing ME2 was. And that ME3 simply failed to hold a candle to it.
False
U never actually get to speak to the freed collectors do you? they just appear in multplayer?
Correct. But you do get a Prothean. Not the same I know
wait so can Javic fly then?
Zach Davis Don't think so as I think the Collector wings is part of alterations done by Reapers. Javik is still Pure Prothean Soldier
No. The wings are an 'improvement' done by Harbinger. He mashed a lot of 'improvements' onto the genetic ghosts of the Protheans.
Great videos!! Could you do more mass effect lore pleasee
if you played mass 2 you know what they are
I still would like to know more the protheans/collectors.
it's probbibly best if Javlik wasn't awakened and didn't witness this.
but nicely done webcast.
Javik should've had wings
How did the collector keep up their numbers after battles
SPACE!!!
when do you record the podcast usually
hold on there's a mass effect anime?
Yeah , it was terrible
it wasnt bad but it wasnt great
Collectors separting from the Reapers after regaining control?
When was this?
novzki mass effect 3 I think. That's why you're able to use them in the multiplayer. Shame they don't appear in the normal story
SCIENCE!!!
You left out the part about how buff they are on ME3 multiplayer.lol....I hate them. Also, I've played ME2 a dozen times and never noticed you can see the person you sent through the tubes on the final mission. duh
Me: (runs out of ammo) right. Only one thing for it. Hey, Collectors! Look what I got!
Collectors: (insect-like clicking)
Me: behold! The Mass Effect trilogy box-set!
Collectors: ...
Me: limited edition, and mint condition! (Throws the box)
Collectors: (chasing the box) MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE
How can you get better after death?
The worst assumption one can make about The Collectors is... Direct Control
1:28
I'm surprised there weren't any human Collectors.
There were. They were called husks. Collectors were result of Reapers finding Protheans useless in their main goal of making new Reapers, but they made use of them by making them Protheans.
@@vksasdgaming9472 *by making them collectors.
@@jv3198 My mistake. Protheans were tested and found wanting and Reapers are not wasteful either so they were made use as Collectors.
@@vksasdgaming9472 the topic of collectors is interesting. We don’t know if they can reproduce like other organics and if they can then they would be in billions as they have been around for 50k years.
@@jv3198 As much as Mordin Solus studied them they were utterly incapable of anything living. No culture and reproduction replaced by manufacturing of new drones. Machine parts to replace bits lost to genetic degradation. Not slaves - husks made to throw away.
Most Collectors died when their base was nuked, but some remained at large and counter signal of Leviathans broke indoctrination of some remaining ones and they went berserk and attacked Reapers.
ok, this was scary as shit.
nice
Collectors >>>>Reapers
I almost stopped playing when Miranda in ME2 was watching the vid the Quarian put together "I think that's a Collectahh!" Here I am, re-reading every Mass Effect codex and not one goddamn mention of this Deus Ex race. What Bioware Could have done is include the lines after the player says "Whats a Collector" and have Miranda/Jacob explain that While Shepard was being put back together (about two years) these fucking bugs started some shit, instead Primarch Alpharious's question breaks the game. When we get to Andromeda were going to realize Salarians have wings and Krogan can spit acid while Asaria can't use Biotics because there is no Mass Effect tech in Andromeda or some shit :/ lazy writing
rant/
but you still didnt explain something..... how the fuck do you turn a fish into a bug??? yes yes i know that they were experimented on and all that crap. but still. a fish is a FISH. a bug is a BUG. what the heck is this?????
I though the Leviathans were a lame origin for the Reapers and a lame way to have the Collector be freed from Reaper control
j
Nice grammatical error in the thumbnail...
so who are the prothiens?
Read more
at least you tried
Damn bro u need to English better