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Shocking Milwaukee M18 Fuel Failure: Why I Had to Switch Back to DeWalt
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's episode, I uncover a shocking design flaw with the Milwaukee M18 Fuel cordless saw during a cozy cabin project. After previously praising Milwaukee tools, this unexpected failure left the saw completely unusable, forcing me to switch back to my dependable DeWalt saw to complete the job. Join me as I detail the issues I encountered and discuss why DeWalt remains my go-to choice for reliable tools. Don't miss this surprising turn of events!
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Grown man builds cabin very slowly while wearing crop tops. 2024 colorized.
Grown man with crop top and colorized hat has a cabin on a river, biggayjaz8768 does not,
You know what happens when you assume, Cody.@@wranglerstar
@@wranglerstar to be fair I have a cabin in beautiful farm country in Australia.
@@bigjaz8768you know australia is worse than east coast, right?
@@bigjaz8768just kidding 😂
East coast man here. The proper way to use a saw with a circular blade is to adjust the depth to get the maximum number of teeth in the material at one time. Had you set your Milwaukee circular saw up correctly for the job, the motor would have cleared the speed square. The motor going that low is actually an advantage as it allows for the maximum possible depth of cut. But then, I wouldn’t expect a west coast man to know these things ;-)
What a douchebag
Regardless the Dewalt worm drive is by far the best battery framing saw, it's why carpenters run the the rest of Dewalts lackluster tool selection
If you didn’t run the Milwaukee at full cut depth and set it for the 1” that you were cutting it would have likely cleared the square.
Still is a frustrating design
It's a great design. Maximum depth.
Means it won't clear a square when cutting 2x4s?
It’s amazing if you are left handed
Exactly thought the same thing right away. Also you didn't have to buy the saw with blade on that side milwaukee has both...
@@josh857 lefty here - the tools arent meant for us lol we end up running them right handed so we can see the damn blade
I love how you introduce it "operating at the limits of my capabilities" "a cautionary tale"
this is me every day in running a business
“The north east corner is giving me trouble, imagine that.” Good one
Surprised he was able to do anything with the west side
@@robotcactus_mk1882 the east side is holding it up.
I’m from PA but I still laughed
I cant imagine how nerve racking it is to work with 2.5 million people looking over your shoulder . Mad respect for you Sir
The reality of TH-cam is that people are much more likely to comment about you doing something wrong so doing things wrong actually boosts the channel.
@@lukethompson5885 explains the crop top as well
Roughly 50-150k but the same still applies.
Seriously! 😂
@@JK01234😂 that's as far as I'm going to go as a content creator myself
I agree with your sentiment on an earlier video about the M12 tools. I’ve built a lot of custom furniture up to framing small structures and I’ve probably reached for my m18 a handful of times in a year for the occasional 10” lag screw. Not a lot those m12s won’t do.
And yes full stairs. At some point when you’re sitting there reflecting on life with friends, stairs become the best seat in the house.
Yep, I agree...the full stairs indeed.
I drilled 3 holes 5" deep in concrete with the m12 hammer drill with the big 4.0 battery i was really impressed i leave my 18 set at home now the m12 is scary good and a must have for pro's and proho's alike
Get a Milwaukee fuel worm drive style. Use one almost daily. Works with a square too
Corect, he compared 2 totally different tools, DeWobble also makes that "east coast" saw.
@@chuckmiller5763 The Dewalt flex volt "east coast" saw clears a speed square at full depth on the motor side. At least the one i have owned for 3 years does....
Also works on a square "triangle" in case you have a round hole😂 Fuel worm drive Cody, you will never look back
Makita and Metabo HPT much better ergonomics, lighter and MHPT can also go hybrid with AC adapter for long cuts
Saves life of batteries
I've never once commented on one of your videos because I agree with literally everything you say and do, not saying this to brown nose, but I've been having back issues since 2020 that's caused me some debilitating issues. Just want to mention that watching this update on your path in life and your endeavors has made me lose thought on my immediate aches and pains.. humbly I thank you for that. You're a man's man. Love your adventures and hope and pray you and your family live strong and stay blessed🙏
Love and light to you
Great work. One thing I would have done differently is the corners of the deck, cut those lower board at 45 degress so it matches the deck corners.
I was searching comments to make sure I wasn't being a broken record, but I agree.
If he does full stairs it’ll probably cover that up.
Yeah I was just thinking I would have done the same.
Definitely needs 45s on corners.
We're gonna have the war band after us if we keep up this slander 😆
Hey Cody, a little trick for a picture frame border, whether it's an interior floor with an inlay, tile work, pavers, or a deck... Lay the field first and then cut the border of the field straight, then add the border. In this case, I would have left the start and end of the boards unfastened, screw down all planks. Cut all planks at once with a circular saw, or track saw. Lift the unfastened ends to slip in joist tape underneath. Fasten the ends, and then add the border planks. That's how this Northeaster has done it. 😉I swear I am one of the good ones.
You know there’s an adjustment to raise and lower the body from the guide but honestly a compound miter saw would be a better tool for the job.East coast man here
You should set the blade depth to just a hair beyond your workpiece thickness. therefore, thicker material cannot be cut using a speed square because the motor housing will be closer to the guide.
@@Flying81 on an east coast saw, you have this issue with the motor. West coast saws for right handed people would never have this issue with a square as a guide. I have no idea why anyone even still makes East coast saws
@@Flying81 no, incorrect. He would still be right handed on the other end of the board. Therefore the orientation would always be, from left to right, speed square - guide - blade - motor, and so the motor would never be in the way.
@@Flying81 pause the video at 11:18 and tell me how the speed square would be on the side with the motor. He’s right handed, so he’s going to hold the square with his left hand. Because the blade is on the left hand side (west coast) of the saw, the speed square sits against the guide on the blade side, not the motor side.
@@Flying81 then pause it at 9:49 with the Milwaukee. He’s still right handed with the saw and holds the square with his left hand. But the blade is on his far right side, and he can’t cross his arms to put the square on the blade side. So it’s on the motor side, and it hits the square while cross cutting.
That's funny, I can't see the blade when its on the left because it throws all the dust right into my face.
OMG that view at 5:17 is insane. Well done sir!
Full length stairs 100% if it's in your budget. That always looks the best, and is most versitle. PLUS you can build in with "boxes" One large platform as the bottom, then a box on top of it, and then another box on top of it... One of the best guys on youtube, RR Builders has a great video on it. How to build deck stairs the EASY WAY. Everything is looking great, Cody!
I own the same milkwaukee saw. I place the square on the other side of the board and face the pointed part of the speed square towards myself, allowing the blade to fully clear the board before the motor hits the square.
I just returned from an awesome time in Fairbanks Alaska. Had dinner with The Alaskan Pepper, and we both agree that you are awesome. God bless you and your family, Cody.
@@WhiteTrashTennesseeyour fits you perfect
East coast man here… my Ryobi saw has the blade on the left side…and the motor easily clears my speed squares.
Uh oh. That’s not what we wanted to hear.
Your putting the decking upside down . Widest part of the grain (cup) (growth rings ) goes down . Keeps the end corners from curling up
Just raise the blade depth... And it will clear the speed square.
what if you need to cut a 1" board?
@@wranglerstarwhat model Dewalt saw are you using? I need to replace my old corded circular saw. Thanks and God bless!
I pinned links to the top comment,
@@wranglerstarturn the saw around. Even with the default you were looking on the left side to cut why is that beloved 😂
38 degrees?! Goodness, that's colder than this time last year by a couple degrees!
The deck is coming along beautifully... can't say I'm surprised that wrong-handed skil-saw wasn't designed for proper work with proper tools; probably designed by an engineer with no callouses on his hands.
Having been a subscriber for around 14 years now, I know there are comments about how long these projects take, but I really want to say what a blessing it is to me. I WISH I had the time to take this much time and care in doing my projects. All of my other life makes my projects just need to be completed. I wish I could take the time to bevel the edges on every deck board and the care for measuring/predrilling every screw. Keep at it and enjoy the process, my friend.
Your time will come,
Ryobi that’s red 😅 Deck looks amazing! Full stairs !
Ryobi and Milwaukee both owned by TTI. Milwaukee gets patents from Ryobi and probably the vice versa
Get a dewalt
Why didn't you adjust the cut depth on the Milwaukee like you did the DeWalt and eliminate the motor interference on the Milwaukee?
Been there...done that lol! Motor hit speed sq! 😡😂
I live by a lake in Arkansas but they just started some 5year maintenance and drained the lake. So much for that backup planned water source.
Lol that little mini rant about the plane being set face down gave me a flash back of 8th grade shop class over 30 years ago.
If you use a 2x6 block about 4 inches long and tap it firmly with a hammer you can flatten those creases out of your metal trim.
10:31 been there ... done that!! lol!
My speed sq did not pass the motor b/c my blade depth wasn't adjusted!
Great video's... lots of great teaching moments! 🙏
Building a deck on a cabin in the western climate in your bare feet. You have reached the pinnacle of society my friend. I’m hoping to be in the same situation before to long😋
Using a drill to drive and a driver to drill. Now I've seen everything.
Make it make sense.
Lot of wood workers like using drill drivers when woodworking, having no impacts prevents splitting of the wood generally. But on the other hand others are now using impacts for everything so it’s all becoming preference now.
Keep in mind that circular saw will tilt the opposite way as your worm drive. It comes in handy when cutting hip or valley rafters or other miter cuts… you may find one saw a better fit on certain cuts than the other, even tho it feels left handed on straight cuts.
The outfit is reminiscent of Randy in the newest southpark special.
Perfect music choice.
Absolutely. At 5:22 when he was just quietly working with piano music in the background, very nice.
A) re:M18- does the saw not have a depth adjustment?
B) re:M18- doesn't 'waukee make left and right variants?
C) shouldn't let your tape zip back in. Its hard on the retraction spring, hard on the tape itself and its hard on the rivets holding the claw.
"Sitting around drinking their Folgers Crystals." 😂😂😂😂
yeah that one was uncalled for to be honest
Flex 24v inline 6 1/2 inch saw is belt driven, no issues using saw guides and has a built in dust port that really works. Can see the cutline on either side of the saw. Very accurate and quiet. Use the stacked lithium batteries. 3.5, 6, 10, or 12 ah. The designers solved a lot of issues with this saw .
17:15 as a LONG time fan of the channel, we appreciate the effort that goes into every shot. The sequence at 4:50 belongs in a Wes Anderson movie. 11/10 content
This dude is the king of engagement. lol.
I just had an issue with an M12 battery that was barely used maybe 5x (looked brand new) and wouldn't charge, read 0 volts. It was a year and a half old and they didn't want to honor the warranty because I didn't buy it at an "authorized distributor" i.e. Home Depot. It has a serial number and build date on it so they know it was only halfway through its warranty life. Total letdown.
Yup! Got to lift at the end of the cut to avoid the lip on the square. Hate it too🙃
Life has been busy the past year or two and I haven’t been able to watch your videos Cody. Glad to see it looks like you and your family is doing well, and I’m happy to see Ms. Pants!!
Always bashing the other coast without realizing that Milwaukee makes both left and right handed saws.... Also you don't need the full cut depth on that facia, if you raise the fence up your motor will clear the square with ease.
East coast, boomers... Uniquely bigoted in microscopic ways.
Good sir, I have a few issues on how you finished the skirting on your porch.
1. You should have 45 the corners instead of butt joints. Plus your butt joints are not consistent on both side. One is visible from the cabin side, while the other is visible from the front.
2. While I do not know where your stairs will be going on the porch, nor you might not have decided yourself. It would have been better to try and hide the splice under the steps. You might still be doing so where you did put the splice. As for commercial guys from the Northeast carrying tools in a bucket. Their is a good reason for this, and I won't disclose it here, but feel free to dm me, and I will explain it to you. You will be impressed with the wisdom of it.
Impact for drilling, drill for screwdriving. I do that too. I also use a hammer to saw and I've got a vintage kerosene blowtorch that I use to knock nails in.
10:30 I was taught to run a circular saw so that the blade only goes 1/4-1/2" past the depth of the wood cut. You would have cleared the speed square if u lifted the blade more, instead of running it full depth. I think the reason for the shallower cut is less blade in the wood, less friction, and then less draw on the motor. sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong.
NGL when I bought my Dewalt the same thing happened to me, took me a minute to clue in and reduce the cut depth... It was one of those days...
You can order Milwaukee fuel circular saw with blade and motor on either side your choice. They also make a worm drive circular saw if that’s what you want.
I like your idea about the stairs .
Beloved 🙌 loving this cabin build
First vid i am experiencing and i love this guy already, he works nice and slow but consistent which makes him quick and the "Ryobi saw" made me laugh lol
Hey Cody, Milwaukee makes an excellent worm drive Saw, with the blade on the west coast side! Lol. Plus Milwaukee tools makes probably 6 or 7 circular Saws! Just wanted to share my friend! Take care!
I went looking because I was curious about the saw... it looks like Milwaukee has a handful of different circular saw models, including ones with the blade on the other side.
You know you have the wrong Milwaukee saw to do the job, buy the big boy saw meant for work is their Rear Handle Circular Saw. The motor is on the other side, just like your DeWalt, it has way more power like a worm-drive, and it's not that disgusting yellow.
real saws are teal
We use both Dewalt and Milwaukee with good luck with both ...for pro electric work.....Your the man W.S. aka Cody.....I bought the Honda WH20XT fire pump....... Honda EU3200 gen.......Yamaha EF 2200 gen.
...I have Mid West jerry cans by Valpro with after market caps by EZ POUR
For stairs I suggest full width, maybe a bit longer tread, so if you have a bunch of people hanging out the stairs could be impromptu seating, or a riser for Group photos
That cabin has the most amazing view !!
As an east coast hobby carpenter I’d be using a slide saw miter box on that deck. No west coast hillbilly framing saws. But I do agree that that Milwaukee saw is flawed.
Never use boards with the pith (bullseye) in them and always make the rings "frown" so when they age they do not cup and hold water. Boards with a pith in them are a huge crack that hasn't happened yet...
Act accordingly
Makes sense hope I remember this one
In fact I think this very thing happened to me on the cubby house deck I built for my kids. Can confirm
When I see you laying that decking with a speed square ,drill and a handful screws I'm reminded why I worried when I see builders roll up with enough tools to build a house .
Power to you
Barn stone steps are always a nice natural touch. Not super easy to work with, but they’ll last!
104 degrees working above scorching sand here in New Mexico is the worst. Feels like the sun is beating on you from both directions
I’m an east coast man. Milwaukee makes a left blade m18 “wormdrive style” saw. Run one at work most days. Paired with a 12 amp hour battery it runs all day. Even on a commercial scale. Still no substitute for a skil mag 77. Always found myself cutting left handed with a sidewinder.
Damn I love watching your videos. Thank you for the inspiration ! Great work. You're making my future bright.
What about wrap around on the stairs? Just a thought. Creates dimension.
Sound guy deserves a raise. Your blocking is incredible too. Your work is blissfully consumed over here in west coast North Carolina.
Thank you, sound is tough with so much wind
@@wranglerstar heard the wind once, and it was slight. Your audio is always crispy. Never any breath or wind and the sounds of your tools and actions are always up front in the mix. Asmr my friend.
And you never clip even with all the tools and machinery. Good sound goes unnoticed but it is the most important part. I’ll watch bad images with great sound. I won’t watch great images with bad sound.
Yes--cabin-wide steps are a great idea! Very sweeping and grand. That would also be a great place for family photos. 😃
The last 10 mins of this video starting with the saw is hilarious. Good job Cody
Love that picture frame decking on the porch. Turned out really nice. Yes, I hate those wrong sided cordless saw blades too!
I don’t quite understand why he mitred the board to join them up in the middle, but didn’t mitre the corner. To me it would’ve looked a lot better. Especially when the deck above the corner is also mitered. Maybe that’s just me.
I thought the same thing. ProHo for you I guess.
May I ask, why are you using the impact driver to drill pilots, and the drill to drive fasteners?
I love the spacing on the deck boards. It looks superb.
Cody, my corded DeWalt skilsaw (has the blade on the wrong side as well) also will not clear a speed square. It drives me so mad that I just want to throw the whole saw away sometimes
I love my wrong side Milwaukee saw because I’m a wrong side hand guy. I just taped the ejection for the saw dust so it doesn’t blow in my face.
I learned on an east coast saw and always struggled getting accurate cuts. When I got to a point where I bought my own tools the first thing I did different was get a left blade saw and I’ve never even thought about switching back! Milwaukee has an m18 fuel rear handled worm drive circular saw that is absolutely killer. Not quite as compact as the dewalt 60v saw but you’re able to use any size m18 battery with it unlike the dewalt which requires 60v batteries.
Zero people call a sidewinder an east coast saw.
Love the work; just the right amount of OCD for a quality job!
4:48
Wow look at that west coast strength.💪
You could have got the rear handle Milwaukee saw, the blade would be on the left side like that DeWobble.
Just do what this east coast guy did, buy the Milwaukee M18 2830 saw that has the blade on the correct side. Beautiful work on the cabin Cody!!
I wish TH-cam allowed me to give more than one thumbs up. I really liked your comment about East coast union men. I'm east coast but I can't stand the union guys who think because they got suckered into joining a union and paying dues they are superior to someone who learn carpentry from working in the trades non union.
Not all were bad, however, you are correct,
that view just always blows me away. gives me a deep yearning to live out in nature
its hilarious hearing rightys complain about the smallest inconvenience of something being on the wrong side...us lefties just deal with it and do better. thats why its awesome when things are accidentally made for lefties like some saws, right hand retrieve baitcasters, or guitars being fretted with the left hand
So beautiful & cozy cabin. I to love to work with real wood it is so satisfaying and smels good. Nice work, thank You for sharing Your build❤❤❤ & Yes full stairs please.
As an east coast man dewault saws seem to be the way to go the right handed saws have the blade on the right side easy to use
For stairs I'd think it would look nice with them on both sides so the deck looks nice and symmetric. Of course a full frontal stair like you were saying would also work but I like seeing the 'under carriage' on the wooden beams holding everything up.
Cody this may be a little extra but I think some natural stone or precast concrete steps would look quite nice in front of the cabin.
Here’s a saw suggestion from a young guy in the trades: Look into a maffell kss 50. 95% of the time it’ll replace your chop saw, table saw, circle saw and track saw. I lay wood floors for a living and I carry in 1 saw to every job and it’s the smaller version of that saw, but for doing everything, I would get the next size up or maybe even 2 sizes up.Takes some getting used to but it’s the only saw I need partnered with a jig saw on occasion. Its a bit pricey but you know those Germans are proud of there tools and it reflects in the price.
I agree with the stairs, and it eliminates the large railing
I have both and generally prefer blade on the left so I can better see the cut (as a “righty” that is). There is a strong argument for blade on the right, though. It lets the large part of the table of the saw rest on the “good” side of the cut, which makes for squarer cut ends.
Full steps look really nice, but they do add shelter for critters and anything the wind will blow in and they make it hard to clean.
I switched to milwaukee, when my lithium 18v shit out prematurely i invested in the fuel which did the same, i went to 20v dewalt and not a single issue for over 5 years now
I would do stairs in the center instead of the entire front. Reason be, if you need to back your truck or side by side up to the porch to unload items you are not limited to doing it from the side or having to carry them up the stairs. Doing a smaller stair case cuts down on maintenance of the staircase as well.
Four-step stair down to a full length 6-foot deep sundeck with 3-step stair to grade.
This provides an opportunity to hide unsightly pier blocks, and match cabin porch railing with half height railing to support pots plants and then chairs to enjoy the sun and the view as well as perhaps even a fire pit.
lol. He acts like a master if you’ve ever actually ever done any of this for a living you know he’s making bones aboit nothing. And I’m an East Coast guy. We don’t like crybabies on the job site.
2 step stairs all the way across would look great.
They're a huge tripping hazard.
Screws with your brain.
I deliver so I see lots of porches and wrap around stairs seem to screw with the eyeline. And no handrail is also a hazard
I remember when you were a speaker at Mother Earth News Fair in Topeka, KS and you played your video about using manual tools because of all the hassles of battery-powered tools. Not that much of a hassle, I guess.
I’d respectfully suggest you only put the stairs on the right half of the deck front. That will allow for a railing on the left hand side for leaning, putting your feet up after a long days work etc. it will look more finished that way. Looks great so far, Good Luck!
My favorite thing about this deck is over the next few decades Cody is going to say "I had to hand plane each of those planks" at least two dozen times ;)
How about correctly adjusting the cut depth and lay the sped square on the edge as it's supposed to be.
Excited to see the review on the knife. Been looking at going to a small fixed blade.
94 degrees in central oregon today . I whent to Portland on the 9th and it was 102 and I drove back to bend when I got to madras the feeling of dry heat came back and I got to say I'll take the wet heat over dry heat any day .