same, i'm a volt/fire main but i like to keep up with all the current stuff since i'm the one my crew relies on when it comes to information. So in order to help my crew i love to have maygi's breakdowns and analysis for sure.
Personally I really like your way of presenting the information. I don't remember if I said this before but.... It doesn't matter how often you upload videos. Your videos are worth every second. You are a great content creator Maygi. Keep improving.
100% this^ If i want HARD numbers and minmaxing/rotation guide Maygi is my go to creator for sure. As a spreadsheet warrior no one else provides me with this much information in such a nicely presented and digestible way
always love how your videos start, it's a simple sentence that gets straight to the point then diving directly into the video, it's really efficient and funny at the same time or idk how to explain but I love it lol
I'm glad you appreciate this! Personally I really don't like how most TH-camrs start out with spewing useless information for over a minute before getting into the point, so I want to avoid doing that as best as I can! With some other TH-camrs, it's like... Yes, I know Umi is a character in Tower of Fantasy. Yes, I know you're sponsored by nord VPN. Yes, I know you want me to smack that like button and ring that bell. ...etc
Thanks for updating the spreadsheet to include Umi. I ran the calcs with the units/matrices I own, and for my secondary budget Phys team 3* Shiro is roughly on par with 0* Umi assuming you can shatter at least once. Basically F2P Phys Shiro still viable and hasn't been powercrept hard yet.
Amazing ending. Gotta love some good puns. But unless I missed it even after rewatching, you didnt go into her trait once again. Would be nice if you also mention that for future comps. Also Im sure some f2p would enjoy recommondations about what f2p matrices to put on which character. Anyway, great work as always. Youre a blessing for this small community. Looking forward to Lan hopefully getting back to rival the top, but will of course follow your Fenrir guide too.
WAAAAAAAAAA I FORGOR THE TRAIT AGAIN NOO The TLDR with the trait is, in a practical situation, it should be a DPS gain in most cases (we all know that 20% Samir trait all the time is unreasonable), even in the Umi Claudia Lin comp, as in that comp, most of the damage is during the burst window anyway (even though with said comp, you will have some downtime on the trait due to the slower charging speed).
@@Maygi Hehe, all good. Ill try to remember you if I see another post before the next guide. Or maybe keep a to do list for the guides of things you should include. Thanks for the extra clarification.
I pulled for A6 Umi. I found myself doing more damage with A6 Umi/Lyra/Lin over A6 Lyra/Claudia/Lin. Only reason I can tell is how some mobs would get insta deleted where as before I would have to do a full rotation with Claudia>Lin>Lyra punches before they died.
Anyone pulled 4pcs of Umi's matrices? Do they work for all weapon like Lin's 4pc matrices? Or need to be slotted into Umi's weapon only, like Frigg 4pcs does? Oh, and stellar presentation Maygi-sama, as always. ^^
Is the calculator bugged? it shows Samir A6 with her 4p doing more damage than A1 Tian and A6 Crow both of them with 2+2 Samir Crow. All teams on A6 Lin.
This makes sense... especially if you put in a 3* 4p Samir matrix, the gain from it is relatively huge especially with Lin, as Lin's field procs Samir A1 on a separate ICD
@@Maygi That's very interesting, I'm gonna check it out in game more then. She's like almost as strong as an A6 Tian with her 4p on 3*, thank you very much for your response.
Im actually planned long time a go using Umi/Lin/Claudia team so i skiped Lyra. Hope i can get at least her A5 this time and next re run i will get her A6 and Umi matrices.
If i havent seen umi cn, i probably pull for umi in global....the global 'balancing' is just sad - swapped A1 and A5 - reduced charge rate by more than 60% - all numbers got slashed to the ground
@Maygi I thought the optimal dmg for lyra would be doing aerial atk punches instead of ground punches because they had better multiplers. Unless I’m understanding wrong in reading the weapon text. Also would it be better to invest in claudia 3 star matrices rather than umi matrices if I decide to just continue running an claudia lyra lin comp?
Aerial punches do have higher DPS, but you can't use them infinitely unless for some reason you have 2pc Claudia on Lyra - the attack string ends with one big and slow punch, which you can cancel with a jump, but without 2pc Claudia, you'll only be able to do a couple of those attacks before you have to start dodge cancelling or just wait for the animation to happen, both of which are DPS losses~ Claudia matrices would definitely benefit the current comp, but whether it's a smart investment, may be questionable - Gunonno will be releasing soon in CN, so if you're interested to wait and see how she works out, that may be smart..
@@Maygi Thanks for the feedback. I’ve been looking everywhere for info on aerial vs ground attack dps on lyra. I think I’ll jump the gun and invest in claudia matrices because of their flexibility on different comps and also I can see them continuing to be useful down the road as well. I intend to run them on my Claudia, while I continue to run my 0star 4piece shiro set or 1star 2pc shiro/samir on lyra. As always great info, and I look forward to your analysis each video (even if I don’t play any other element really haha).
I would pull for Umi but I'm just focusing on flame comp+her voice in japanese is nails on the chalkboard. p.s I found you in tof and died in a duel instantly(pff i was red ruby).
Great video! My question is if i have a4 shiro, a1 claudia and a1 lin should i replace shiro and lin with umi and lyra? I be able to get umi and lyra 4pc and i dont want my lyra 4pc to go to waste :( I just dont like shiro's playstyle
Umi Lyra should perform much better than Shiro Lin! And don't worry, Lyra matrices won't go to waste for a while because they're super powerful on-field matrices that don't have any contest currently ~
another great new unit info and math-stuff vid! :D (with a bit of 'cringe' at the end there) XD tho, ill be skipping her, as she seems a bit tooo 'on-field' for my playstyle (reviewing if matrices is good for my phys comps tho) glhf
Hi i have one question if i dont have Umi a6 its still recommended to use hologram as a main relic? And what would be a useful second relic. Couant, Rift or Shield?
Couant + Shield is the most personal DPS over time, and Rift + Shield for more overall team DPS. Without A6, I don't think hologram is as worth it as Couant..
Umi Trait works fine because even though the uptime is scuffed, it'll be up during the burst which is what matters - and it's more consistent than Samir, but you could always run Samir if you are a gamer god~ Shiro matrix is an F2P-friendly "off-hand/buffing" matrix that you can slot on one of the support weapons if you don't have anything better, Samir matrix will pretty much always be on Umi unless you have Lyra 4pc
Maygi just to understand for the Lin lrya rotation... is there a reason why lin matrices should be on lyra? Is there a difference? Also keep up the great work XD love your deep dives!
Lin matrices don't work completely off-field like Umi, and requires some uptime for stacking, which is why I do an auto attack + dodge on Lin. However, if put on Lyra, it's a bit more efficient because you have to spend a decent amount of field time punching on her anyway, and it's not as much of "wasted time" as Lin is!
@@Maygi but if you put lin matrices on lyra, then shouldn't you open with lyra? Otherwise you're missing 18% dmg buff through the whole first magic trick rotation aren't you?
@Maygi thanks for the detailed explanation!! It was very sweet of you! Now I get it XD Matrices switching is just so troublesome thou I wish they had sets switching for it..
Lin matrix on Lyra, Umi matrix on Lin. Umi works completely from the background, and Lin matrix requires some on-field stacking, so it's better to put it on a weapon that you switch to more frequently~
Because it's better for an F2P team to run A1 Claudia over other A1 options (Ruby, Cobalt, etc)! The rotation actually works pretty well too and charges super fast~
Thankyou !! Especially if you have Huma 2pc, I don't think replacing A6 Shiro with A0/A1 Umi would really be the play... ideally if you could pick up A3 Umi to support either Lyra or Shiro, that'd be ideal - otherwise, Umi may have a hard time contesting the main DPS of them...
Umi does work with Lin and Lyra - roughly as good as Claudia does for the last slot, anyway. It's hard to make a call right now to see which one will work better with Genonno, whose tests are coming out on CN just now.. we'll have to wait a little bit to see...
You forgot there is 1 more physical simulacra.... it's Shiro. Can this used as alternative if you have no Claudia and Lyra, because both are banners. Especially as F2P you miss easy them if not invested much. Should inside your analysis to give better idea for F2P players. Because she is base in game, get A6 is easy so its one of best models for F2P.
That's a good point! I totally should have mentioned more about her... especially considering I've been using Shiro all the way from the launch -> right now, haha... sometimes I focus too much on the meta combinations that people are most interested in. I'll be sure to include some considerations for them in future builds! (perhaps F2P build section could consider A6 standard characters)
Umi is a lot more consistent than Samir, and only has real downtime in the Claudia Lin comp, but in that comp, all the damage revolves around the burst window anyway, so it still works out ~
Im sad? Why is Umi not the main dps in triple phys? If you have a6 umi, a6 lyra, a3claudia... should you really just wait for only one card sweep, then switch off magic show just for more punching with lyra? Is this really optimal? Kinda makes her a6 bad imo since it requires her to be onfield lol. AT LEAST do 2 card sweeps then switch :(? ik her a3 gives more buffs if you end earlier but sheesh... we didnt go full a6 whip girl just to swap her out. All thats just asking: Is A6umi really not the main dps in triple phys? ITS LITERALLY HER MAGIC SHOWTIME!!
It's because in a triple phys comp, you have room for Claudia matrix, which buffs Lyra's DPS by a considerable amount. If you put your main DPS matrices on Umi, sure, she'll deal higher DMG than Lyra during the Magic Show, but then the downtime will be a lot worse. Umi swapping out gives a very potent DOT (that deals ~1.5x the damage of a Lin field) while granting a damage buff, so you can see where the DMG comes from... As a triple phys player, don't get me wrong, I'd love to DPS on Umi over Lyra, but I ended up going for A3 + matrices and am sticking with Lyra for now ~ I already got Claudia matrices anyway... it's also comfier with sustain so there's that
@Maygi Ah so it's only when Claudia matrices. I have a6 umi 4piece, a6lyra 4piece and a3 Claudia with shiro.. I saved everything and skipped all since beginning to max lyra umi :( . Was wanting umi to popoff magic show !!
Still Tower of Frost... let's hope Fenrir can change that. Volt is in a bad place with Tian killing himself and still worst than Frost teams dps wise - all risk, no reward.
He mentioned on stream that her strongest team is Umi/Claudia/Lin but you'll have more downtime on her skill without Lyra. If you just want the most damage you don't need Lyra.
always love seeing your breakdowns. there just one thing i wanna ask. flame is the strongest dps in f2p teams right now? i thought frost dominates it too. im seeing people doing tons of dps using A6 tsubasa, A1 saki, A3 Alyss. what comp is the f2p flame? i assume the Lin is only A3.
So bassicaly phys team kinda in a veeeery bad spot from f2p perspective (a1-a3 without matrices), without debuff they are not even close to others, but debuff works for all in multiplay so you even more behind. Also phys has no synergies compared to frost/flame and no raw numbers compared to electro, imagine what will happen after fenrir/lan release...F for phys i suppose cause if new cn phys unit not completely powerhouse i don't have any idea what should happen to fix this issue.. Wish to know how devs so fucked up with balancing. Started regret now that became phys main...
i maxed Umi and i must say she is 100% trash! i main phy with 29.5k phy. I dont know how your numbers look so good might be skill issue but for now i would not recommend anyone maxing her out like i did.
Hi care to elaborate more? Do you have only 6* Umi or 6*Umi + 4pc 3* matrix? How did you test your character and come to the conclusion that Umi is trash? It will help everyone who is trying to max her out, thanks.
hello please elaborate more, i have 28k atk phys with all unlimited characters and matrices FULL, i wanna know if this is worth it because i really don't like the character personally.
@@Achelouz I have all matrix’s and everyone A6 and what I can say is that I would recommend just using the only Lyra Lin claud team. It flows better than any team with umi on it. It just feels like umi wasn’t made for old phy characters . Maybe she was made for future characters is my guess.
@@WolfyRedz after pulling for umi and testing my self i can say you will gain 20% dmg with umi claudia lin easily, BUT you will lose sustanaibility and let me tell you, umi rotation its way harder than it looks, and lyra matrices would help a lot on this comp because of the blocks, another thing, claudia matrices becomes useless for now.
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I'm not even gonna pull for Umi, waiting for Fiona/Zeke, but I'm gonna watch this because I enjoy your analysis/breakdown, ty for everything you do!
same, i'm a volt/fire main but i like to keep up with all the current stuff since i'm the one my crew relies on when it comes to information. So in order to help my crew i love to have maygi's breakdowns and analysis for sure.
Fiona is altered, but what is Zeke gonna be?
Personally I really like your way of presenting the information.
I don't remember if I said this before but.... It doesn't matter how often you upload videos. Your videos are worth every second.
You are a great content creator Maygi. Keep improving.
100% this^
If i want HARD numbers and minmaxing/rotation guide Maygi is my go to creator for sure. As a spreadsheet warrior no one else provides me with this much information in such a nicely presented and digestible way
For her next magic trick, she'll make your red nuclei disappear!
always love how your videos start, it's a simple sentence that gets straight to the point then diving directly into the video, it's really efficient and funny at the same time or idk how to explain but I love it lol
I'm glad you appreciate this! Personally I really don't like how most TH-camrs start out with spewing useless information for over a minute before getting into the point, so I want to avoid doing that as best as I can!
With some other TH-camrs, it's like...
Yes, I know Umi is a character in Tower of Fantasy.
Yes, I know you're sponsored by nord VPN.
Yes, I know you want me to smack that like button and ring that bell.
...etc
lol yeah that's exactly what I mean
you have a really nice mindset :)
The puns at the end are epic ahah
You forgot to mention that with demon skin umi your game gets 100% better xD
was thinking of skipping after seeing this but umi's burst is amazing
Amazing video as always! Really ramping up in quality each video!
She is underrated... Reason I pulled for her.
Thanks for updating the spreadsheet to include Umi. I ran the calcs with the units/matrices I own, and for my secondary budget Phys team 3* Shiro is roughly on par with 0* Umi assuming you can shatter at least once. Basically F2P Phys Shiro still viable and hasn't been powercrept hard yet.
Amazing ending. Gotta love some good puns. But unless I missed it even after rewatching, you didnt go into her trait once again. Would be nice if you also mention that for future comps. Also Im sure some f2p would enjoy recommondations about what f2p matrices to put on which character.
Anyway, great work as always. Youre a blessing for this small community. Looking forward to Lan hopefully getting back to rival the top, but will of course follow your Fenrir guide too.
WAAAAAAAAAA I FORGOR THE TRAIT AGAIN NOO
The TLDR with the trait is, in a practical situation, it should be a DPS gain in most cases (we all know that 20% Samir trait all the time is unreasonable), even in the Umi Claudia Lin comp, as in that comp, most of the damage is during the burst window anyway (even though with said comp, you will have some downtime on the trait due to the slower charging speed).
@@Maygi Hehe, all good. Ill try to remember you if I see another post before the next guide. Or maybe keep a to do list for the guides of things you should include.
Thanks for the extra clarification.
Are we basically forced to use non-Games gifts?
@@MRafas-ie9zh what?
@@Bikaz Umi trait requires Games+Vera for gifts, and there are none with these tags combined apart from Umi's deck
Thanks for the guides!
I pulled for A6 Umi. I found myself doing more damage with A6 Umi/Lyra/Lin over A6 Lyra/Claudia/Lin. Only reason I can tell is how some mobs would get insta deleted where as before I would have to do a full rotation with Claudia>Lin>Lyra punches before they died.
Tyvm once again for your hard work maygi!!!
thanks magical math fairy
Finally!! Im so ready for Umi!! Let’s gooooo!!!
Would’ve love to see this with shiro as main dps with Clau/umi supports and lin/Claudia teams
I hope Gunonno will provide a synergy for her. Great content btw!
I'm from the future and yes, gunono charges umi even faster than lyra yessir!!
@@skylerfreeman1173 yeah, definitely gonna pull her to maximize my Umi! Finally Physical comp is getting what it really deserves.
@@skylerfreeman1173 and who's the main DPS?
you deserve way more subs
Thx alot Maygi 🤗 i was playing wrong, now im bygone 504 🤗
Nice. Pull for the Aberrant girl!
hey o/ thank you for this big work ! really impressive
Good job as always!
Thanks for the last 3 graph you've made there. I hope you will still make the graphs when fenrir released too. 😊
Thanks for the hard work fairy maygi ❤
appreciate the hard work, thanks.
I love your dad jokes at the end lol, nice video like always
The punning at the end be going hard
When will this tower of Frost end T.T
I think Tsubasa A6, Claudia A1 & Fiona is the real savior of all comp
I LOVE Umi! Sadly, I’m a volt main, so no MAGICAL MASUTA for me. :(
Tower of Claudia
Anyone pulled 4pcs of Umi's matrices? Do they work for all weapon like Lin's 4pc matrices? Or need to be slotted into Umi's weapon only, like Frigg 4pcs does?
Oh, and stellar presentation Maygi-sama, as always. ^^
I pulled 4 Umi and I put them at Lin. Because it can be outfield and more consistent than 4 shiro
@@ranggaalyansaputra8775 Thx for the confirmation
Is the calculator bugged? it shows Samir A6 with her 4p doing more damage than A1 Tian and A6 Crow both of them with 2+2 Samir Crow. All teams on A6 Lin.
This makes sense... especially if you put in a 3* 4p Samir matrix, the gain from it is relatively huge especially with Lin, as Lin's field procs Samir A1 on a separate ICD
@@Maygi That's very interesting, I'm gonna check it out in game more then. She's like almost as strong as an A6 Tian with her 4p on 3*, thank you very much for your response.
Love the stupid puns in the end XD
14:10 typo in graph for flame and volt
Amazing job
Im actually planned long time a go using Umi/Lin/Claudia team so i skiped Lyra. Hope i can get at least her A5 this time and next re run i will get her A6 and Umi matrices.
How about the survivability? And how to recharge the whip faster?
If i havent seen umi cn, i probably pull for umi in global....the global 'balancing' is just sad
- swapped A1 and A5
- reduced charge rate by more than 60%
- all numbers got slashed to the ground
@Maygi I thought the optimal dmg for lyra would be doing aerial atk punches instead of ground punches because they had better multiplers. Unless I’m understanding wrong in reading the weapon text. Also would it be better to invest in claudia 3 star matrices rather than umi matrices if I decide to just continue running an claudia lyra lin comp?
Aerial punches do have higher DPS, but you can't use them infinitely unless for some reason you have 2pc Claudia on Lyra - the attack string ends with one big and slow punch, which you can cancel with a jump, but without 2pc Claudia, you'll only be able to do a couple of those attacks before you have to start dodge cancelling or just wait for the animation to happen, both of which are DPS losses~
Claudia matrices would definitely benefit the current comp, but whether it's a smart investment, may be questionable - Gunonno will be releasing soon in CN, so if you're interested to wait and see how she works out, that may be smart..
@@Maygi Thanks for the feedback. I’ve been looking everywhere for info on aerial vs ground attack dps on lyra. I think I’ll jump the gun and invest in claudia matrices because of their flexibility on different comps and also I can see them continuing to be useful down the road as well. I intend to run them on my Claudia, while I continue to run my 0star 4piece shiro set or 1star 2pc shiro/samir on lyra. As always great info, and I look forward to your analysis each video (even if I don’t play any other element really haha).
Finally, Fenrir is next, let's GO!
hi maygi,
i am currently using lyra/lin/claudia (all 6* with standard matrices ONLY)
would you say it's still worth going for umi ?
obviously no unless you go for a6 umi and still you get not that much dmg increase as showed in video. Better pull her matrices
How do I get magic trick to stay around when I discharge with other weapons like it does in weapon trails and wormhole?
Uhh... it shouldn't stay when you swap... maybe you're running into a bug in those contents?
Fiona breakdown video is gonna be so long damn
I AM NOT READY
I would pull for Umi but I'm just focusing on flame comp+her voice in japanese is nails on the chalkboard. p.s I found you in tof and died in a duel instantly(pff i was red ruby).
Great video! My question is if i have a4 shiro, a1 claudia and a1 lin should i replace shiro and lin with umi and lyra? I be able to get umi and lyra 4pc and i dont want my lyra 4pc to go to waste :( I just dont like shiro's playstyle
Umi Lyra should perform much better than Shiro Lin! And don't worry, Lyra matrices won't go to waste for a while because they're super powerful on-field matrices that don't have any contest currently ~
@@Maygi Thanks for your response! My mistake i meant Lin 4pc not Lyra which only affects Lin. Is it worth using 2pc Lin in that comp?
another great new unit info and math-stuff vid! :D
(with a bit of 'cringe' at the end there) XD
tho, ill be skipping her, as she seems a bit tooo 'on-field' for my playstyle
(reviewing if matrices is good for my phys comps tho) glhf
Hi i have one question if i dont have Umi a6 its still recommended to use hologram as a main relic? And what would be a useful second relic. Couant, Rift or Shield?
Couant + Shield is the most personal DPS over time, and Rift + Shield for more overall team DPS. Without A6, I don't think hologram is as worth it as Couant..
@@Maygi thx a lot for the early response
Fabulous video!!! I have been wondering though, if I wanted to use C6 Shiro with Lyra and Umi low stars who would be the main dps?
so if i have a0 lyra, then i should focus a6 umi > 4pcs umi matrices ?
so running Claudia is more dps than Lyra, despite the fact that Lyra charges the meter faster? So confusing?
In my experience claudia charges discharge much faster than lyra
How about the survivability without lyra?
@@moondoggie5208 but Lyra's auto fill out the magic meter more. I'm also confused. Isn't it more uptime to magic time more DPS ? @maygi help :D
@@moondoggie5208 oh hi, we are talking about Umi's skill meter that looks like a whip, not the regular charge meter
@@blastyblast1010 oh yikes. My bad lol. Ty for correcting me.
In the pre-Umi comp, did you test it with or without Umi's matrices?
Better trait in Claudia Lin? Shiro or samir matrix?
Umi Trait works fine because even though the uptime is scuffed, it'll be up during the burst which is what matters - and it's more consistent than Samir, but you could always run Samir if you are a gamer god~
Shiro matrix is an F2P-friendly "off-hand/buffing" matrix that you can slot on one of the support weapons if you don't have anything better, Samir matrix will pretty much always be on Umi unless you have Lyra 4pc
A3 Samir and Shiro matrix vs A0 4pcs Lyra for Umi Lin Claudia, which one is great?
Samir/Shiro is essentially the same, if not a little bit better, so save your DC!
@@Maygi thanks!
Maygi just to understand for the Lin lrya rotation... is there a reason why lin matrices should be on lyra?
Is there a difference?
Also keep up the great work XD love your deep dives!
Lin matrices don't work completely off-field like Umi, and requires some uptime for stacking, which is why I do an auto attack + dodge on Lin. However, if put on Lyra, it's a bit more efficient because you have to spend a decent amount of field time punching on her anyway, and it's not as much of "wasted time" as Lin is!
@@Maygi but if you put lin matrices on lyra, then shouldn't you open with lyra? Otherwise you're missing 18% dmg buff through the whole first magic trick rotation aren't you?
@Maygi thanks for the detailed explanation!! It was very sweet of you!
Now I get it XD
Matrices switching is just so troublesome thou I wish they had sets switching for it..
In umi Claudia lin , should I put lin matrixes on lin ? Umi on Claudia and Lyra on umi?
Lin matrix on Lyra, Umi matrix on Lin. Umi works completely from the background, and Lin matrix requires some on-field stacking, so it's better to put it on a weapon that you switch to more frequently~
Why does the f2p flame team have grievous?
because claudia is OP
Because it's better for an F2P team to run A1 Claudia over other A1 options (Ruby, Cobalt, etc)! The rotation actually works pretty well too and charges super fast~
very good content
Nice video Maygi :3
If i have a 6* shiro 3* lin and 0* lyra should i replace Shiro for Umi 0* (maybe 1*) ?
Thankyou !!
Especially if you have Huma 2pc, I don't think replacing A6 Shiro with A0/A1 Umi would really be the play... ideally if you could pick up A3 Umi to support either Lyra or Shiro, that'd be ideal - otherwise, Umi may have a hard time contesting the main DPS of them...
@@Maygi ok thank u again :3
thank you 😀
Any suggest if i don't have matrice umi? Just have lyra and lin matrice?
If you don't have any other options, King 2pc (for content like bygone with constant shielding) or Shiro 4pc are decent accessible options!
@@Maygi so i guess can use umi (4pcs lyra), lyra (4pcs lin), lin(4pcs shiro)???
Thank you a lot for f2p info
ig it's best for physical mains to wait for Gunnono
Maygi with the puns? Deym!
I have lyra invested and Lin but no 3 phy? Should i go for Umi?
Umi does work with Lin and Lyra - roughly as good as Claudia does for the last slot, anyway. It's hard to make a call right now to see which one will work better with Genonno, whose tests are coming out on CN just now.. we'll have to wait a little bit to see...
In triple physical comp, why didn't you use Lin's matrix set on Claudia? Is Claudia's 4p matrix better in that team comp?
lin 4pc effect only works if lin is in the team
@@00Jas0 ah yes true
So if I have a A3 Lyra is a A1 umi fine? Or should I get umi to A3?
a3 umi is good. because if u switch to before magic show ends. it gives 25% damage
You forgot there is 1 more physical simulacra.... it's Shiro. Can this used as alternative if you have no Claudia and Lyra, because both are banners. Especially as F2P you miss easy them if not invested much. Should inside your analysis to give better idea for F2P players. Because she is base in game, get A6 is easy so its one of best models for F2P.
That's a good point! I totally should have mentioned more about her... especially considering I've been using Shiro all the way from the launch -> right now, haha... sometimes I focus too much on the meta combinations that people are most interested in. I'll be sure to include some considerations for them in future builds! (perhaps F2P build section could consider A6 standard characters)
umi vs samir trait, what is your take?
Umi is a lot more consistent than Samir, and only has real downtime in the Claudia Lin comp, but in that comp, all the damage revolves around the burst window anyway, so it still works out ~
@@Maygi Thanks! I actually use Umi trait with Lin Claudia comp since this lineup is more susceptible to hit.
Im sad? Why is Umi not the main dps in triple phys? If you have a6 umi, a6 lyra, a3claudia... should you really just wait for only one card sweep, then switch off magic show just for more punching with lyra? Is this really optimal? Kinda makes her a6 bad imo since it requires her to be onfield lol. AT LEAST do 2 card sweeps then switch :(? ik her a3 gives more buffs if you end earlier but sheesh... we didnt go full a6 whip girl just to swap her out.
All thats just asking: Is A6umi really not the main dps in triple phys? ITS LITERALLY HER MAGIC SHOWTIME!!
It's because in a triple phys comp, you have room for Claudia matrix, which buffs Lyra's DPS by a considerable amount. If you put your main DPS matrices on Umi, sure, she'll deal higher DMG than Lyra during the Magic Show, but then the downtime will be a lot worse. Umi swapping out gives a very potent DOT (that deals ~1.5x the damage of a Lin field) while granting a damage buff, so you can see where the DMG comes from...
As a triple phys player, don't get me wrong, I'd love to DPS on Umi over Lyra, but I ended up going for A3 + matrices and am sticking with Lyra for now ~ I already got Claudia matrices anyway... it's also comfier with sustain so there's that
@Maygi Ah so it's only when Claudia matrices. I have a6 umi 4piece, a6lyra 4piece and a3 Claudia with shiro.. I saved everything and skipped all since beginning to max lyra umi :( . Was wanting umi to popoff magic show !!
Still Tower of Frost... let's hope Fenrir can change that. Volt is in a bad place with Tian killing himself and still worst than Frost teams dps wise - all risk, no reward.
They changed c1 for c5 that sucks iam very disappointed
but kyrios says don't get Umi if you don't have Lyra because of her Pre Heat
He mentioned on stream that her strongest team is Umi/Claudia/Lin but you'll have more downtime on her skill without Lyra. If you just want the most damage you don't need Lyra.
You need to be really good at doing rotation with Lin Umi Claudia, but it is the strongest lineup of phys as of the moment.
Thanks math fairy
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always love seeing your breakdowns. there just one thing i wanna ask. flame is the strongest dps in f2p teams right now? i thought frost dominates it too. im seeing people doing tons of dps using A6 tsubasa, A1 saki, A3 Alyss.
what comp is the f2p flame? i assume the Lin is only A3.
idk how you got flame team being strongest out of this.
Claudia + Annabella + Lin. In F2P teams, everything is only A1!
Lin kinda weak here but so is like, every other pick haha
@@Maygi oh yeah made sense now. I missed that all A1 part. Cause anna's dps alone is good enough to bosses like robarg. Lin and Claudia's multipliers.
So bassicaly phys team kinda in a veeeery bad spot from f2p perspective (a1-a3 without matrices), without debuff they are not even close to others, but debuff works for all in multiplay so you even more behind. Also phys has no synergies compared to frost/flame and no raw numbers compared to electro, imagine what will happen after fenrir/lan release...F for phys i suppose cause if new cn phys unit not completely powerhouse i don't have any idea what should happen to fix this issue..
Wish to know how devs so fucked up with balancing. Started regret now that became phys main...
Yep. But nothing new.. Phy always needed a6 limited character + limited matrices to even compete with other teams.
its the opposite for flame right now.
good for f2p, garbage for whales.
frost is like the only option to have good spots in f2p and whale
Phys comp is always been expensive since day 1
Thank you! I stopped playing ToF and got back to GI again, the ToF multiplayer p2w to f2p relation annoys me too much.
i maxed Umi and i must say she is 100% trash! i main phy with 29.5k phy. I dont know how your numbers look so good might be skill issue but for now i would not recommend anyone maxing her out like i did.
Hi care to elaborate more? Do you have only 6* Umi or 6*Umi + 4pc 3* matrix? How did you test your character and come to the conclusion that Umi is trash? It will help everyone who is trying to max her out, thanks.
hello please elaborate more, i have 28k atk phys with all unlimited characters and matrices FULL, i wanna know if this is worth it because i really don't like the character personally.
I think he likes the less button mashy comp
@@Achelouz I have all matrix’s and everyone A6 and what I can say is that I would recommend just using the only Lyra Lin claud team. It flows better than any team with umi on it. It just feels like umi wasn’t made for old phy characters . Maybe she was made for future characters is my guess.
@@WolfyRedz after pulling for umi and testing my self i can say you will gain 20% dmg with umi claudia lin easily, BUT you will lose sustanaibility and let me tell you, umi rotation its way harder than it looks, and lyra matrices would help a lot on this comp because of the blocks, another thing, claudia matrices becomes useless for now.
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