i'm sold. I already got my first kill using a HOTAS in ground RB. This video helped a lot with the right controls for it and for someone who has thousands of battles with the Mangustas combined with mouse aim, this is an entirely new challenge. Great video! Subbed and liked.
@@BruceLeeroy94 I adore the CBT. It's the first heli I can fulfill all roles with. On mouse aim I would take 4 stingers and 38 hydras with that ballistic computer. It's also extremely manouverable. I watched your tutorial video and when you mentioned the SAS toggle mode to manual I tested the rudder and it switched directions quite fast. Also, how do I spot targets from the cockpit/missile sight? I'm just flying until I see tracers sadly so I must be doing something wrong.
@@finnrissa4594 Finding Targets is one of the hardest things to do. Especially in Sim. Map knowledge is good because you can estimate where people will be at what time of the match and what objectives are owned. At 9.7+ it can be dangerous to try and spot targets because of missile SPAA. One thing I do is watch the enemy spawn at the start of a match and I will constantly be looking at it to see what tanks are on the battlefield and where they are going. Having thermals can help spot targets. Thankfully, every helicopter at 9.7+ has them. Below 9.7 you can climb as high as you want with no worries about missile spaa. This will allow you to search and scan the map for targets pretty easily. If you are in a match where you know the enemy has like an adats or a 2S6, I would fly as low as possible and try to sneak up on them. Most maps have some routes that will let you come up on the enemy spawn undetected, but not all, and certainly not all of those routes are easy to trek. A very good way to find targets is to go to objectives that are being decapped/capped by the enemy. This is especially useful in sim because once you know what cap is being taken, you hardly even need to look for the enemy.
Yo thanks a bunch! Super comfy heli controls to start with. Just upgraded from an R9 280x to a rtx 3080, and man the helis are such a joy to fly in VR! Too bad I'm stuck with the russian starter heli tho xd
at 9:50 its probably because you need to check relative control, otherwise its indeed gonna set it or to 100%, or to 0%, same happens if you do it in ground vehicles (thats how I found out)
This is a problem for all helicopters with the greenish HUD like you see jn the AH-1Z and Cobra. Same applies to the AV-8 and other HUDS. You are not alone. Idk if the next patch is fixing that issue, but I hope it does. In the mean time, I would just avoid using rockets on those helicopters or just use other helicopters in the mean time.
Just getting into Helicopters, the new PvE mode made me curious. I hate that the "Aim with VR HMD" option does not work. For me at least nothing changes. That would be quite exciting.
Hey Bruce, love the vid and plan soon start playing Sim with a Joystick But I noticed that in your recent vids your using (joystick, throttle lever and rudder pedals) And I was curious if you could make a simple vid to how you sestet up your controls for sim Really appreciated and I believe a lot of players will too
I'll make a video explaining the process I go about when setting up controls for WT (: and I'll use both the thrustmaster and Xbox controller to demonstrate.
I know you plan to eventually make more videos tactics and such- but in the meantime im just curious exactly how different/similar does it feel flying vtols like the yak compared to helis? And any plans to make separate vids going over ex the yak? My buddy bought it for me but i still don’t have russian ground so gotta wait another 2 weeks to finish the bmp2m before i can take it up properly- but really looking forward to doing a shortbus version of your flying in rb lmao
There are some similarities to helicopters, the main thing you need to get good at is how to dump speed to enter VTOL mode while staying low to the ground and in control. Once you enter VTOL mode, you need to manage your thrust and thrust angle appropriately. It is very difficult, but something that helps is flaps. The Yak-38 only enters VTOL once it is under a certain speed also.
even when i have no autopilot in gunner mode, it still wont let me control my pitch or roll when in the atgm view. do you have any idea how I could fix it? It's always worked that way for me so i thought it was just normal
@@BruceLeeroy94 holy shit, it worked. Thanks so much man. Ive had so many times where i cant avoid fire or crash into the ground because i was in gunner view or cycling the views
So apparently for older choppers like the Huey. You can only wrestle with it since it only has the Co-pilot SAS. Great. now i cant use my Huey with my recently bought Logitech Extreme 3D Pro... i can only use helis with damping if that was the case...
Hey do you actually play with a Xbox controller. I was wondering if there is a battlefield lay out. I’m a devil behind the stick in bf4 and wondering if you help me use a controller because the imputs on console are way to sensitive
Ok I’m doing the video along with you and something feels off. Maybe it’s the fact I’m playing war thunder on Xbox. I will admit it is easier to fly but it’s not the feeling I expected. I can’t explain it I just wish the handling can be like battlefield. It’s close but I’m not sure. Thanks for you help though
Hello,...since you are kindly showing us about control settings,.... I haven't played helicopters enough to know if it happens with them but in ground vehicles and sometimes an aircraft, just as I'm lining up to get my weapons on target all of a sudden, the camera and therefore the gun view will slow off in a random direction and by the time I bring it back on target I'm either dead or it has gotten behind cover/become much more difficult to hit. This sure seems like my opponent is using a cheat because it is kind of rare but it may be either a legitimate bug or a setting that I have not disabled. Any insights you or others can share on this? Have you also experienced this "you don't want to shoot that, look over here in this random direction" imposition by the game?
hello. so currently the only game mode thats available to just spawn in helicopters is arcade, but im flying with a whole HOTAS and track IR. my problem is that in third person view, i have no control of the gun turret. but it works fine when im in the gunner position. i can't even fire my main gun in third person for whatever reason... only rockets and missiles
yes it sucks for me too that its not that simple to get sim battles for helis but found out you can do sim and realistic battles in helis in ground battle(but not available every day sadly)
Hey bruce can you please tell me how to fix autotrimm, no matter how i set it up, my heli still rotate to left, im not able to trimm that. I use joystick and rudder, but without propper trim its not possible to use it. Thx for your reply
Idk, but I would imagine it is better than pressing buttons for looking around. However, I think VR is better since you have depth perception and the screen stays in front of your face. That, and it is just way more immersive and cool.
I don't use mouse, but I watched your video. Having a low multiplier will make it easier to make those minor adjustments to fly smoothly and to snipe people with rockets, but it will limit your evasive maneuvers and your agile flying. I just wish there was a button I could press that halved all my input.
@@BruceLeeroy94 na because since i made it smooth...whe you switch off dappening it can be flown aggressively ish. I think tho that the majority of sim players with joystick tho just wants it flyable. But i may try to further tweak it to make it fly better on manual. Cheers!
Dude why the heli in war thunder are harder to fly than in DCS that huey is incontrolable without stabilisation xD and the copilot thing make it basically a brick impossible to shoot nor aim at anything
Hey, Buddy, When you look around using your head tracking, the helicopter's gun turret follows you. FUCKING HOOOOOWWWWW!??? OMG PLEASE HELP Nobody online is offering any help or advice and nobody else seems to have this problem. I can only use my helicopter gun turret by holding down the 'C' key and moving my mouse around, which is ANNOYING when I have perfectly good head tracking already set up. How do I get my turret to auto-slave to my head tracking when in gunner view????
I started working on my setup last night which was done with VR. Oth complicating and enriching the experience. Unfortunately, I'm a truck driver and have to use hotspotting for internet and the match I joined left me with a 999 latency... Truly heartbreaking because the only time I get to game is when I'm on the road yet off the road and that's not nearly enough time to begin with. So I guess I'll have to look for some alternatives for offline play, perhaps anyone here would have some ideas for me? I already play a little bit of vtolvr, which is awesome, and I've picked up project wingman though I still have to work on the control setup for that... But mostly I would like high quality and varied helicopter VR experience with slight limitations of equipment in that most of my gear is pretty mobile so something like DCs may or may not be sustainable in VR...
I feel for you. Not having good internet any time is difficult. The only thing I could think of when it comes to helicopters is custom user made missions. I have never tried those before, but that might be where you can scratch that helicopter itch without a need for a strong connection. I also think DCS has some single player missions that can be done, and the helicopter cockpit of the HUEY is much more accurate and interactable. If you want to fly jets offline, then VTOL VR might be a good option.
05:28 Thank you, that Stabilsation was what I was searching for... impossible to Control the Heli when it acts drunk....
thanks for commenting here too, I was already accepting the fact that I couldn't play in simulation mode
From now on Doom music will start to play whenever I enter a battle with my helicopter. lol great guide.
i'm sold.
I already got my first kill using a HOTAS in ground RB. This video helped a lot with the right controls for it and for someone who has thousands of battles with the Mangustas combined with mouse aim, this is an entirely new challenge. Great video! Subbed and liked.
I can't wait to get the tree mangusta. Probably the next helicopter tree I will mess with after I finish playing with the lynxes.
@@BruceLeeroy94 I adore the CBT. It's the first heli I can fulfill all roles with. On mouse aim I would take 4 stingers and 38 hydras with that ballistic computer. It's also extremely manouverable. I watched your tutorial video and when you mentioned the SAS toggle mode to manual I tested the rudder and it switched directions quite fast. Also, how do I spot targets from the cockpit/missile sight? I'm just flying until I see tracers sadly so I must be doing something wrong.
@@finnrissa4594 Finding Targets is one of the hardest things to do. Especially in Sim. Map knowledge is good because you can estimate where people will be at what time of the match and what objectives are owned. At 9.7+ it can be dangerous to try and spot targets because of missile SPAA.
One thing I do is watch the enemy spawn at the start of a match and I will constantly be looking at it to see what tanks are on the battlefield and where they are going. Having thermals can help spot targets. Thankfully, every helicopter at 9.7+ has them. Below 9.7 you can climb as high as you want with no worries about missile spaa. This will allow you to search and scan the map for targets pretty easily.
If you are in a match where you know the enemy has like an adats or a 2S6, I would fly as low as possible and try to sneak up on them. Most maps have some routes that will let you come up on the enemy spawn undetected, but not all, and certainly not all of those routes are easy to trek.
A very good way to find targets is to go to objectives that are being decapped/capped by the enemy. This is especially useful in sim because once you know what cap is being taken, you hardly even need to look for the enemy.
@@BruceLeeroy94 thank you for the tips. I will put this to use :D
What's the best way to practice joystick helis? I really want to get good with it but I usually just end up dying to enemies I don't see.
Thank you for getting around to it for us! WT’s default controls are terrible and every time i try I just watch your videos and then feel bad lmao
I have a joystick heli tutorial on how to make it better than mouse. Could check it out if u want
Thank you so much, this explains what's been causing some of my headaches with my Lynx!
This is the content fills my curiosity .
Thank you for sharing your experiences!
You rambled a bit but the video helped me a lot!
Thank you for the very detailed information. I hope my heli sim flying improves a bit. :D
Great video bro
Well done that controllguide saves a lot of pain
Great video! Thanks for doing this :)
Yo thanks a bunch! Super comfy heli controls to start with. Just upgraded from an R9 280x to a rtx 3080, and man the helis are such a joy to fly in VR! Too bad I'm stuck with the russian starter heli tho xd
at 9:50 its probably because you need to check relative control, otherwise its indeed gonna set it or to 100%, or to 0%, same happens if you do it in ground vehicles (thats how I found out)
Thanks a lot for this! Your skills are inspirational.
No problem!
I had a hard time too with instructor trying to control my airplanes too. So instructor
bug is valid for planes too.
It also helps if you save your settings.
Great video!
Extremely helpful
Something I'm having trouble with is having the sight move with my head in VR mode which kinda screws with my accuracy
This is a problem for all helicopters with the greenish HUD like you see jn the AH-1Z and Cobra. Same applies to the AV-8 and other HUDS. You are not alone. Idk if the next patch is fixing that issue, but I hope it does. In the mean time, I would just avoid using rockets on those helicopters or just use other helicopters in the mean time.
Thanks for making this!
Just getting into Helicopters, the new PvE mode made me curious. I hate that the "Aim with VR HMD" option does not work. For me at least nothing changes. That would be quite exciting.
i got track ir but i dont use it a ton.
Would love to see you in Arma 3
Hey Bruce, love the vid and plan soon start playing Sim with a Joystick
But I noticed that in your recent vids your using (joystick, throttle lever and rudder pedals)
And I was curious if you could make a simple vid to how you sestet up your controls for sim
Really appreciated and I believe a lot of players will too
I'll make a video explaining the process I go about when setting up controls for WT (: and I'll use both the thrustmaster and Xbox controller to demonstrate.
Can I make it so that my ATGM view isn’t either 0% or 100% zoom? I want to be able to gradually zoom in and out
Theres a problem when I put my COLL above 50%. The helicopter will start spinning right how do i fix this?
How to I control the targeting pod camera with Xbox controller
I know you plan to eventually make more videos tactics and such- but in the meantime im just curious exactly how different/similar does it feel flying vtols like the yak compared to helis? And any plans to make separate vids going over ex the yak? My buddy bought it for me but i still don’t have russian ground so gotta wait another 2 weeks to finish the bmp2m before i can take it up properly- but really looking forward to doing a shortbus version of your flying in rb lmao
There are some similarities to helicopters, the main thing you need to get good at is how to dump speed to enter VTOL mode while staying low to the ground and in control. Once you enter VTOL mode, you need to manage your thrust and thrust angle appropriately. It is very difficult, but something that helps is flaps. The Yak-38 only enters VTOL once it is under a certain speed also.
And I will eventually make one, but that would be after I have several videos on helicopters up.
@@BruceLeeroy94 yeah, and gauging just how much it’s going to drop when transitioning can be tricky lol
Can you do a video for straight up sim console controls for the helis
How do you disable the instructor with mouse aim?
Coming from DCS world where I fly attack choppers.. Could you tell me more to enjoying downloading WT.. For flying that kind of choppers
even when i have no autopilot in gunner mode, it still wont let me control my pitch or roll when in the atgm view. do you have any idea how I could fix it? It's always worked that way for me so i thought it was just normal
What do you have pitch and roll binded to, and what do you have aiming the ATGM set to?
@@BruceLeeroy94 holy shit, it worked. Thanks so much man. Ive had so many times where i cant avoid fire or crash into the ground because i was in gunner view or cycling the views
So apparently for older choppers like the Huey.
You can only wrestle with it since it only has the Co-pilot SAS.
Great. now i cant use my Huey with my recently bought Logitech Extreme 3D Pro...
i can only use helis with damping if that was the case...
Hey do you actually play with a Xbox controller. I was wondering if there is a battlefield lay out. I’m a devil behind the stick in bf4 and wondering if you help me use a controller because the imputs on console are way to sensitive
Ok I’m doing the video along with you and something feels off. Maybe it’s the fact I’m playing war thunder on Xbox. I will admit it is easier to fly but it’s not the feeling I expected. I can’t explain it I just wish the handling can be like battlefield. It’s close but I’m not sure. Thanks for you help though
I will make a list of the issues and I’ll try to troubleshoot myself but I don’t really know the fix
Hello,...since you are kindly showing us about control settings,....
I haven't played helicopters enough to know if it happens with them but in ground vehicles and sometimes an aircraft, just as I'm lining up to get my weapons on target all of a sudden, the camera and therefore the gun view will slow off in a random direction and by the time I bring it back on target I'm either dead or it has gotten behind cover/become much more difficult to hit.
This sure seems like my opponent is using a cheat because it is kind of rare but it may be either a legitimate bug or a setting that I have not disabled.
Any insights you or others can share on this?
Have you also experienced this "you don't want to shoot that, look over here in this random direction" imposition by the game?
hello. so currently the only game mode thats available to just spawn in helicopters is arcade, but im flying with a whole HOTAS and track IR. my problem is that in third person view, i have no control of the gun turret. but it works fine when im in the gunner position. i can't even fire my main gun in third person for whatever reason... only rockets and missiles
yes it sucks for me too that its not that simple to get sim battles for helis but found out you can do sim and realistic battles in helis in ground battle(but not available every day sadly)
Hey bruce can you please tell me how to fix autotrimm, no matter how i set it up, my heli still rotate to left, im not able to trimm that. I use joystick and rudder, but without propper trim its not possible to use it. Thx for your reply
as in real-life, helis will yaw depending on collective, so no point for rudder-trim since you would have to retrim every time you change collective
Thank you sir!
I've turned off my engine before on the ice lake of stalin grad behind where enemy's come down early game big sneaky big kills
The huey is a pain to try and fly I basically don't have SAS
after watch vid: now i am a pro heli pilot!
in game: why i even cannot aim???
i gotta go back to normal flight sim again :(
Yeah, it's stupid that you can't aim from cockpit view. Makes things like the Italian reserve almost useless in sim.
is track ir viable for heli piloting?
Idk, but I would imagine it is better than pressing buttons for looking around. However, I think VR is better since you have depth perception and the screen stays in front of your face. That, and it is just way more immersive and cool.
can u do one for flight sticks pleaseeee
good cotents
I did a joystick stable control tutorial for sim. Currently imo its so good its better than mouse. Not sure if you wanna check it out
I don't use mouse, but I watched your video. Having a low multiplier will make it easier to make those minor adjustments to fly smoothly and to snipe people with rockets, but it will limit your evasive maneuvers and your agile flying. I just wish there was a button I could press that halved all my input.
@@BruceLeeroy94 na because since i made it smooth...whe you switch off dappening it can be flown aggressively ish. I think tho that the majority of sim players with joystick tho just wants it flyable. But i may try to further tweak it to make it fly better on manual. Cheers!
Dude why the heli in war thunder are harder to fly than in DCS that huey is incontrolable without stabilisation xD and the copilot thing make it basically a brick impossible to shoot nor aim at anything
Hey,
Buddy,
When you look around using your head tracking, the helicopter's gun turret follows you.
FUCKING HOOOOOWWWWW!??? OMG PLEASE HELP
Nobody online is offering any help or advice and nobody else seems to have this problem.
I can only use my helicopter gun turret by holding down the 'C' key and moving my mouse around, which is ANNOYING when I have perfectly good head tracking already set up. How do I get my turret to auto-slave to my head tracking when in gunner view????
I started working on my setup last night which was done with VR. Oth complicating and enriching the experience.
Unfortunately, I'm a truck driver and have to use hotspotting for internet and the match I joined left me with a 999 latency... Truly heartbreaking because the only time I get to game is when I'm on the road yet off the road and that's not nearly enough time to begin with.
So I guess I'll have to look for some alternatives for offline play, perhaps anyone here would have some ideas for me? I already play a little bit of vtolvr, which is awesome, and I've picked up project wingman though I still have to work on the control setup for that... But mostly I would like high quality and varied helicopter VR experience with slight limitations of equipment in that most of my gear is pretty mobile so something like DCs may or may not be sustainable in VR...
I feel for you. Not having good internet any time is difficult. The only thing I could think of when it comes to helicopters is custom user made missions. I have never tried those before, but that might be where you can scratch that helicopter itch without a need for a strong connection. I also think DCS has some single player missions that can be done, and the helicopter cockpit of the HUEY is much more accurate and interactable. If you want to fly jets offline, then VTOL VR might be a good option.
@@BruceLeeroy94 Right on, thanks for the reply. I'll have to dig into user missions then, could be awesome.