How To Replace/Repair Keyless Remote Case (Andy’s Garage: Episode - 26)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Andy Phillips shows how to replace the keyless remote case on a damaged Kia key.
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My Kia fobs were hermetically sealed with superglue from the factory. 5 HOURS!!!! to change my key fob shells. BUT, your video is priceless. Once you get the circuit board out of your old key fob, this operation takes minutes to complete. I had every slot head screwdriver out, 2 pair of pliers, 2 box cutters trying to pry open the old fobs. If you have as much difficulty as I did, just make sure you do not damage the circuit board. Also, your old key (OF COURSE)!, spring and chrome button should be used as long as they are not damaged. The new shells I ordered from Amazon came with springs that are longer than the original and the chrome button is too short to be functional. Thanks for the great video.
I am finding the same issue I think. Trying to get the old fob open. It is NOT as easy as it is here in the vid. And mine doesn't appear to be a Kia sticker on the back of the old one. I think it's metal and part of the shell itself. Not sure if there is a screw under that. But I'm not having luck getting that off either.
Just replaced the key fob and this tutorial was beneficial, thank you!
Thank you so much for your extremely helpful video. I appreciate how you made it short and simple unlike some of the other tutorials which were 30 minutes with too much unnecessary talking which makes it quite annoying. You were very pleasant to watch.
This helped out alot 👍🏼 bought a used car and the fob was messed up , key was loose with no lock button. Didnt even have a spring either. New fob worked and key is now perfect
Very helpful. You may need to use the button from your old remote that releases the key because there are slight variations in the slots.
I found the same on my swap out.
Just followed this to replace ours. Very helpful! Though some caution to those who bought their replacements from Amazon, the buttons may be smaller in the replacements. So I would use your old buttons. Other than that, everything is smooth sailing.
Thanks big help I couldn't figure out how to wind the key blade. One thing to note - my very similar key has a separate small black 3x6mm RFID chip that was under a white retaining piece of plastic. Without that the key fob opens the door and the engine turns over but it wont start.
Thanks for the feedback
Thank you so much for commenting about the black transponder chip! I've been chasing this issue for hours! Extremely important for anyone that has one and doesn't switch it over, the car will not start! Cheers!
Perfect! I was worried about doing this, but your video walked me through it successfully!
swartouk2 great, I’m glad it worked👍
So helpful! Thank you! Just used this video to help switch out the fob for my Kia Soul. Instructions were perfect.
Thanks for the comment, glad it helped
Thanks you it took me 10 minutes to replace it. Save me lots of money
thank you! Your instructions were perfect and so helpful. I bought a replacement housing from Amazon for about $8. I had some difficulty separating the housing from the old, damaged key, but once I did that, it only took a matter of minutes to reinstall everything in the new one. The key works perfectly. $8 compared to over $100 to get a replacement key from KIA? No contest.
Thanks for the comment, glad it helped
@@PhillipsVision I can't figure out how to get the spring to lock in order to tighten it. Also the board is loose. Is there a special way to pop it in. 2012 kia soul
@@debbiehardy2149 the spring needs to be wound to create tension, just don’t over tighten or it can pop the cover off. The chip should set in place on the supports. If it’s loose you may not have the correct case.
OMG it was soooo easy... and works (almost) perfectly. When I double click the lock, the car isn't beeping, but lock and unlock works and the horn button. Thank you!
Make sure you have a new battery.
@@PhillipsVision Thanks - I did that before even opening up the fobs. The video was great! I added a link to this video on the Amazon review I did for the 2 fobs i got for $8. :)
@@darrenborrilez317 Thanks, I appreciate it
Thanks for posting. However, trying to pry my old one apart didn’t work. I had to apply a lot of pressure and it still wouldn’t come apart.
So I went to plan B. I pried the rubber button assembly off the new one; removed the busted up, cracked buttons from the old one, and simply switched. It works fine.
I’ll buy another housing and do the same for my second key fob. I’m paying a total of $16 for the rubber buttons but that’s better than $500+ for two new key fobs.
I had trouble prying the old fob as well (starting around 2:00), I wish the guy would have explained that more in depth, but I was able to salvage the board and key with no damage, I bought a 3rd party shell for my Kia on Amazon for $6 and everything transferred over no issues.
Thanks it worked out well for me. The key button is not taking the key in and out anymore but I really don't mind it as long as it saves me $. Thanks again
This video saved my rear! Huge thanks!
Awesome, glad to hear
Thank you. I got mine to work following this video. I have 2 comments. 1. The transponder / chip wasn't glued in on my original key. So I didn't glue it into the new one - this means if I have to get another replacement case I will have no trouble changing it over again. 2. Why was it necessary to go to the bother of changing the key blade. I just took the key blade, hinge and spring from the original fob and used that on the new case. Seemed to work ok!
Great comment, thx
Thanks for you comment about the transponder chip! Extremely important for anyone that has one and doesn't switch it over, the car will not start!
Life saver.....i just got mine from Amazon and about to replace my wife's old key lock
Make sure you keep the original battery cover, it has the FCC ID information. If nothing else write it down somewhere so you have it for potential future issues.
job well done andy phillips
Important to make note that there is a small plastic bit from the old fob, as it is the transducer, and it needs to go along with the board or the car won't start. Its deceiving cause it falls out and only looks like a broken piece of plastic. I threw mine out and had to sort through the trash to get it!!
Hey, thank you very much.
Your video is very helpfull. I kinda stuck on how the spring key mechanism work.
You need to turn it clockwise to increase the tension once you put it in place. Be careful not to over tighten the tension or it can pop the casing open
A literal life saver 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
You didn't show the most difficult and important part. Taking out the security chip that is glued in the top corner. You didn't even mention it, given that it's glued it requires some effort and sometimes heat to get it out.
Your car will not start without this chip.
mmdias87 the chip was not glued in mine, and is not always glued. Normally these are placed inside the frame and held in by the corner supports. You simply lift it out and simply place the new one inside the framing. Nothing more than a 2 second process. Not sure where you’re encountering this as the most difficult part.
Not all key fobs contain the chip, mine didn't. Just depends on what type of vehicle (make, model, year, etc.) you have.
Thank you so much for commenting about the black transponder chip! I've been chasing this issue for hours! Extremely important for anyone that has one and doesn't switch it over, the car will not start!
I just replaced the housing on my 2013 Soul. The original key fob appeared to be glued shut. There’s way no screw holding together. I had to use a lot of force with the pliers to spilt it open. After that it was pretty straightforward.
Thanks for the great video! I was able to change mine out following along.
You’re welcome 👍
Thank you so much you save me $222 this was a great tutorial!!!
Glad it helped👍
Thank you very much. This really helped.
You saved my ass lots of money and for that I am grateful.
Much thanks….. your explanation was the best and easy to follow.
Very helpful. Thank you!
Ok, so after we change this up, how do we program it to the car? I remember I'd go near the car and press some buttons, and then it worked but nobody is showing the very last step. It was not by putting it into the ignition and switching it back and forth. Help please!
If you replaced the internal components as shown in the video you don’t need to reprogram it, everything stays intact. If you are in a position where reprogramming is needed, you need to find the procedure for your vehicle or go to a dealership.
@@PhillipsVision thank you for being so prompt with a response. Yeah, I’ve been going through multiple videos. and both my keys are messed up. I had done this before and it was working just fine. A bit frustrating, thank you
@@arshosalazar1481 I know with some manufacturers, like Chrysler, you can duplicate a key if you have one original. There is a process of activating the original key and having it program the copy, but the original is required.
Once the key fob was replaced, does the key fob need to be programmed, I replaced the new housing but the car could not start, just engine running.
If you moved everything from the original case to the new, then no it does not need reprogramming. It should work fine. If you replaced with a new chip, then yes it will need reprogramming
So I lost the transponder chip as wasn't aware of it and propably was tossed away. What can I do now??
The key opens and locks the car but engine shuts down after a few seconds.
You will need the car dealer to reprogram a new chip. They cost around $300 to do.
This video was amazing! Thank you!
Tanya Earwood you’re welcome, glad it helped
Thanks alot brother. Awesome video! Was super helpful.
khan leon glad it helped👍
Thanks so much! This was really helpful!
Glad it helped👍
Everything worked exactly as the video, but after I'm done, the keys are opening and closing the car, but the ignition isn't working when I insert the key and turn it.
There should have been a chip inside the original case that needs to be moved to the new one. That chip will communicate with the SKIM and tell the ECU to start the vehicle
@@PhillipsVision thanks a lot. This was the missing step. I threw it in the garbage as I thought it's scrap plastic from the old shell 😅
I put it back in the new shell and it worked perfectly.
Does this work with koa soul 2012? I can’t get it apart. I’ve been trying for an hour or more using the same tools you used + a matt knife.
I just did a 2013 soul. Getting the factory key open required destroying the case with side cutters but I was able to reuse the board and key successfully. Takes time and caution but you can do it.
I just destroyed my hand trying to open this thing lol
I used a hot knife to melt the joints on my 2012 kia soul key and finally got it open also busted my hand pretty good in the process
How many times did you rotate the key on the spring? I saw 2X.
2 to 3. If you make it too tight the case will not close properly
Needle nose pliers bro awesome 👍🏼
good video but has a hard time following it still haveing issues with the flip key
Awesome video! It really helped me out👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Stephanie Davis 👍
WHAT?!?! Why does the Kia Dealership charge me $340.00 for this?!?!?!?!?! I HATE DEALERSHIPS who don't care about their customers.
Try to avoid them whenever possible, they are a rip off
This cost me $22 for two fobs. Pretty good deal!
Great vid, there is one item I would add to it tho.
If you look at 3:25 into the video, on the back panel of the remote ( the panel with the battery hole, at the top of it opposite the spring and pin ) you will see a small cavity. ON SOME MODELS, in that cavity, there will be a small white panel. This model doesnt have it. Under that panel is a ferro rod or sometimes a induction ID chip. Thats part of the security system on some models and that panel and ferro rod or chip must also move over or your car will not start. All other functions of the fob will still operate without it.
i completed the assembly without moving this and no start ( "key error" if you have a code reader plugged in ), went back and grabbed that from the old fob, installed and bingo, first try ( no error on code reader ).
Hope that helps others.
Hello, thanks a lot for your comment. I had the same issue. I went and put that white chip, and it still don't work. Do you have an idea of why is that? It would really help me out! thanks in advance.
@@hagopshahinian5669 not just the white chip but the black ferrite rod it covers as well. If that's not there in the new fob the security safety cutout won't disengage.
@@Skallabjorn we're not finding that part, do you know any alternative?
a new key?
Thank you so much!
Saved me _$500!!!?
I did it and it worked great, Thanks!
How can you get a new housing for a car remote
If you need just the case they are on eBay. If you need it with the chip you’ll need to go through your dealership
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thanks but you should edit the video to talk about the transponder chip. Extremely important. Thanks for the video.
What about it? What transponder chip?
Yep,Missed A Major Step!
I ordered 2 from Amazon and I can`t figure out how to close it up after!
It should click shut
@@PhillipsVision After watching a part of your video several times I got it!!!
This assembly will not work as the old key has a transponder chip which has to be transferred to the new key assembly. Without the transponder the car will not start. Surprised no one has mentioned it.
As shown in the video…you have to transfer the chip to the new case. This video is for replacing the “case”
So, where is the vid for replacing the chip, please?@@PhillipsVision
@@ArcadrorPL I do not have one for having a new chip made and programmed. This one is assuming you are transferring the original to a new case since the cases have a tendency to to break from wear & tear.
Is this remote only for opening and closing door. My friend needs replaced his shell he thinks it also controls the ignition which I don't think it does . Thanks
If he has an auto start, then yes it would control the ignition.
What if my cut key itself is broken off that part that is to push to release that key?
@@jbirdfly1581 if you replace the entire case it will include a new one, you will have to have the new key cut to match
Just replaced the key fob as per tutorial and I can open the car with remote but not start the car, it is a new blade does it need programming ?
As long as you replaced the new case with all the original components (chip and board), it should be fine.
thanks. very useful
I need to do the same for 2010 Buick Lacrosse, buttons shot, and broke the switch blade part off from the key.
I did everything well. The car unlocks and locks without any problems, but it won't start the engine in any way. What to do.
Make the chip is not damaged. That chip connects to the ignition switch and ECU to start the car
Hi!! I have done it but the light does not turn on, however the key still works. What can I do?
Your light could be burned out or the connection to it could be bad.
It really works!!
Can you do for a Camry 2016 please?
Thanks man. Your video was easy and perfect and it worked for the replacement key fobs I got. What kind of adhesive did you use or suggest to put the Kia logo back on though?
awgoodrich8 glad the video helped, I just used the exiting adhesive that remained on the logo
awgoodrich8 but you could use a little drop of contact cement
@@PhillipsVision Thanks again man
awgoodrich8 you’re welcome
Where can I get the new fob??
The casing can be purchased on eBay or Amazon. The actual chip that goes inside will need to be purchased from a dealership.
@@PhillipsVision Thanks. I still have my 2 original fobs just the buttons have rotted away.
@@timcoyle50 Then all you need is a replacement case, you can get that online pretty cheap. Just make sure you don’t damage the chip in the process of moving it, and make sure you move every internal component.
nice video, after swapping my key, it wont open the car.
Make sure all the internal components (chip) were transferred properly.
Thanks! My key doesn’t wanna stay closed now though. Any tips?
You may have the key flip spring wound too tight. Try loosening it one rotation and see if that helps. If not, just run a little strip of tape along the seam to prevent it from popping open
@@PhillipsVision I'm referring to the key itself not staying closed-- the casing is fine.
@@i8tweak spring might be too tight causing it to pop out
nice vid
Sir where did you get the key housing ?
eBay
Ok....I just followed your instructions for my Crossfire/Mercedes...only problem is now my door locks won't work on my fob. Any ideas why?
Make sure you didn’t damage the circuit board when closing the case
Can you do for 2004 Chrysler Crossfire
Hi, I followed your instructions and at first the remote worked perfectly (2013 Kia Soul) but now the remote and car won’t talk to each other.
The little red light in the remote still comes on, but the car won’t lock or unlock. I took the remote apart but everything is in there and looks the same. Do you have any suggestions?
The chip inside the case is what communicates with the vehicle. As long as you moved everything from the factory case to this one without taking anything apart you should have no problems. Something may have been damaged or disconnected in the process
@@PhillipsVision dang :( does this mean I have to get a new replacement from the dealer after all?
What about the magnetic chip inside, did you transfer it to the new case? Did your key have a chip inside fob?
Everything that was in the old case was transferred to the new
I followed your steps (and others). I can lock and unlock the car (a 2012 Rondo EX-V6) - the old blade obviously goes into the ignition. The engine turns over but as soon as it catches, the engine dies. Is there a syncing step that I need to follow? Do I need to see a locksmith?
Did you damage the chip in the process? If the chip does not communicate with the ecu the car will stall after turning over
@@PhillipsVision My mistake - the transponder was under a fitted plastic clip in the old unit. It works perfectly now.
It flips open but it does not lock down in place
Desmond Oneal sometimes the weak clips will not hold if the key tension spring is too tight. Try releasing some of the tension by unwinding it one turn, that might help.
No need to reprogram it?
No, not if you move the original chip to the new case
Any tips for opening new case? Cant get it open
no nopeno9 sometimes they are tight. Use a small flathead screwdriver or hard guitar pick and gently pry it open, should un-clip
I have a problem, I have changed the case and the key works, open and clode doors but the engine won't start.
Did you move all the components (chip) from the original to the new? The chips are programmed to your sentry key immobilizer and ECU. If they don’t all match your car will not start.
@@PhillipsVision yes I put circuit board to the new plastic case. is there anything I can do now?
@@daniele-nocentini sounds like a computer issue with communication between the chip and ECU. There are locksmiths that can create a new chipped key to match the ECU
doesn’t work when I pick the buttons is there a reason that it would not work? I have the same key as shown in the video the only difference I see is there is a white thing where the battery is supposed to be on that says UB, mine doesn’t have that could that be the problem?
DJ WOW did you install the original circuit board as well? Without that it will not function
Phillips Vision yes the original circuit board is in there
DJ WOW I would take it all apart and reassemble just in case something got out of place
Phillips Vision ok will do
Thank you 🙏
Would have liked to have seen him go immediately out to the car and start it.
I’ve been using this key to start/drive the car for the past couple years with no problem. If you replace the chip (intact) from one case to another you’ll have no problem. The plastic case means nothing, it’s all the chip to communicate with the ECU to start the car, and of course the metal key to turn the ignition cylinder.
@@PhillipsVision I transferred everything over with almost surgical precision. I went to my vehicle and it now locks/unlocks (didn't before because of old battery), but it won't completely turn over? The dashboards lights up like it's Christmas, and I'm getting a P0441 code? A locksmith is quoting a few hundred dollars to help me out. :( I took the fob apart and reassembled it again (just in case) and got the same result. It's a puzzler.
@@msdee7444 this code pertains to the EVAP purge flow; it has nothing to do with your key’s chip. Not sure why it’s not working. If your chip was transferred without problems it should work fine
Where is the chip dude?
PEOPLE!!! When you change your key fob make sure you include your transponder in the new fob it’s a little black thing for people that don’t know. or else your car will not start !
SGPGHOST the transponder is mounted to the original chip.
Phillips Vision yeah but sometimes the transponder isn’t and it’s just in the casing gotta make sure if you come across it to put it in the new fob
What year and model is this key for ?
Alanna H 2013 Kia Rio, but this process is for most of this key type
So, u didn't need to program or pay a dealership to program?
A G no, because I just replaced the case, not the chip
@@PhillipsVision thanks for replying.
Should I order an OEM remote? Or does that not matter with a "case only"?
A G not if you have the internal chip from the original. If you have the chip, just move it to the new shell. If you don’t have it you’ll need the entire factory device.
Great tutorial, except that it gave me a false sense of security.... Nothing is mentioned about the security transmitter chip so after switching out the motherboard and switching the key, I tested the door locking mechanism and was all set!! Or so I thought.... the next morning the car was disabled and wouldn't start for me.. upon towing to the shop and them running a diagnostic a P 1693 immobilizer error came up. I found the old key chassis and sure enough the transponder chip was in the framing across from the board. Something for others to watch out for..... 👎
Okay, but we’ve literally spent TWO days trying to get mine apart and cannot get it to open! 😭
It might be glued and may require using a blade to slight break the seal
I tried this but now that key won’t start the car
max beard changing the case has nothing to do with starting the car. All you’re replacing is the plastic housing.
Actually it does. After I changed the shell with help of this video my car did not start as well. I tried with original old key and it started the car. Immobilizer is stopping it from starting. Tried to reassemble the old key, did not work
Where do I get the fob housing?
Notorius Vg I got mine on eBay