I trained only Arnis and Krabi Krabong then won a medal at my first HEMA tournament
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- This video required many years of training and preparation. Im very excited about winning best overall lady fighter at my very first tournament, ive heard that doing so well in your first HEMA tournament is not so common a thing. I think i have done a good job to prove that historical south east asian weapon arts can stand toe to toe with HEMA at high levels of competition. I'm not even the best fighter that arnis and krabi krabong has to offer ive never competed in such a high level at those sports, only trained. I hope you enjoy my little video, please like and subscribe if you want more.
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Well done, and congratulations! That's a very impressive performance, and even more so considering that you had limited opportunity for sparring prep.
Oddly enough if I had seen the footgage of your fighting I would have guessed maybe Persian sword fighting, so Arnis / Krabi Krabong is an interesting surprise. This also goes to show how the fundamentals are basically the same. The cuts and parries you use would not look out of place in HEMA at all. Personally I like the more general term "historical martial arts" to emcompass a variety of sword styles (and other weapons).
It's always productive to approach different martial arts with open-minded curiosity and a willingness to learn from others, so this is great to see.
awww thats very sweet of you to say.
I've actually been watching your content for some years i first heard about HEMA on your channel in like 2018 or so.
@@NariMuayThai Nice, thanks for watching my stuff!
I really need to get back into more serious regular practice... Unfortunately I know hardly anyone who does armed martial arts where I currently live, but you reminded me of the importance of solo training.
@@Skallagrim its definitely not ideal. i have to drive like 1.5 hours to find people to fight and 4-5 hours for tournaments. i would be alot better if i had a club within like an hour away.
its better than nothing though!
@@NariMuayThai Yeah, armed martial arts are much less accessible, unless you live in a major city.
sparring is sparring, fencing is fencing. I wouldnt be suprised if a olympic foil fencer showed up to a smallsword tourney and won and vice versa. Very nice job.
i got wrecked by an olympic style foil fencer at smallsword in this very tournament tbh
Hey Nari, I'm a Thai who practiced a bit of Muay Boran, but not as advanced and serious as you are. I just wanted to say thank you for loving and preserving Krabi Krabong. Love from Thailand.
Thank you so much! I hope it brought you some joy ❤️🙏
@@NariMuayThai It surely did. Great jobm ^^
Cool!
thank you so much! i watched some of your videos before the tournament to be honest. specifically the one where you spoke on the mindset to have going into first tournament.
HEMA instructor here. You fought really well, congratulations! I want to see your development, so keep posting!
thanks i will! i actually fought again at gesellen fechten 2023 and then a few days ago at a women's tournament called Bend the Knee. Im planning to fight at swordstrong, donnybrook, and gesellen fechten this year. I will keep posting videos.
Videos like this are slowly moving us towards a modern armed MMA and I am here for it. The only way we can know for sure which sword styles are effective against others is to test them against each other in sparring, like you have done here.
Anytime someone on the internet says "that wouldn't work" or "that style is useless" for any reason, I say to them the same thing: pick up a sword and come show me.
Yeah but asian martial art styles have a lot of ego attached to them and a lot wont ever spar because itll ruin their ego if they even so much as lose 1 match. Its why up until the rise of HEMA a lot got away with the "my art is so deadly i cant spar with it."
Now that people realized you can indeed spar safely with weapons that shit doesnt fly anymore.
Wow, that was very educational. Your training paid off now you are a champion. Congratulations. Keep up your training and Hardwork.
Thank you! i will.
Arnisador from the ph here, i've seen your story floating around but only managed to watch the video today! Congratulations on the tourney success and hope you continue to find your journey full of lots of similar satisfaction whatever it may bring! Pugay!!!
Thank you! Got another tournament coming up this saturday. Soon I will be posting the part 2 to this: I trained only arnis and krabi krabong and fought in HEMA tournaments for a year
@NariMuayThai (hahaa, just noticed you had danny in your credits for FMA even, dude definitely knows his stuff when we spar) Sounds excellent! Looking forward to hearing about more of your experiences!!!
I think you might have cracked the code of how Miyomoto Musashi might've trained alone. Food work, constant training like your life depends on it, stike and blocks and have a good sparing partner. Also, good food. Good work! Congrats on the award
Thanks! I am continuing the journey. Have done 3 tourneys now and am planning to do some more videos on this soon.
Awesome! Pekiti Trisia Kali and Bujinkan student in Aomori, Japan here. Greetings from Northern Japan!
Awesome! Thank you! ❤🙏
thank you , So long as we are being remembered, we remain alive . Thais
I practice HEMA longsword, but I would cross my blade with yours with pleasure. I think every armed style and every type of swordsmanship is great and respectable.
You are amazing Nari thank you for sharing warrior goddess you are ❤❤❤
Big congratulations!
Awesome video Nari!
The whole "escrima doesn't work" criticism is... sometimes sort of warranted. What people who say that mean is that those goofy-looking multi-slash sequences with both people staying at the same distance are absolutely useless in real fights - and they're right. On one hand, they don't realize those sequences are *drills*, meant to put movements into muscle memory and do some physical conditioning, not application of techniques. (HEMA often does something very similar if not the same, by the by)
On the other hand, I've seen far too many escrima schools where those drills were all that was taught - if you train that way then yeah, you will get stomped into the ground at a HEMA event. This is the same problem that a lot of the Chinese martial arts have, Tai Chi is originally a military wrestling style from 17th century (if we focus on actual sources and not legends), but it sure isn't taught that way any more. At least not in most places.
Yeah, i had an argument with someone a while ago who believed his partnered drilling WAS sparring and he scoffed at the idea of HEMAists having to wear protective gear for "sparring" because his view of "sparring" was just partnered drilling.
Long time hema-ist: this goes hard. I'm delighted you were able to test your art like this! I think you may find yourself invited to teach Arnis at future HEMA events!
mad respect, i am a polish saber praticioner, did kendo, iaijutsu and military saber too in the past. You went and showcased your skill. Be proud of yourself, for representing your style so well despite the prejudice and misconceptions
Please keep going, I will subscribe because I want to enjoy you r improvements.
Great video! I felt, from watching your recap, that any style is going to be capable as long as you practice enough and that the bias for/against a lot of martial arts is all a bit silly. What matters most in my eyes is you like what you are doing, feel comfortable doing it, and practice doing it a lot.
Amazing work. Wow
Nice, congratulations.
I fight in the SCA. Very much respect your training and dedication AND accomplishment. Keep it up!
i fought in the SCA in kingdom of glean abhann a very long time ago. i did not get too deep into it though just was going to a local park for fighter practices. was alot of fun.
Well done!
Great work 👍👏👏
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Excellent keep going when someone tells you that you are not competitive and will not win that is there first defeat Good luck to you in your journey.
Great work and congrats - hopefully this isn’t the last competition for you. I would love for your work to help spread SEA martial arts.
thank you!
i actually got kinda hooked and now im doing all the tournaments i can get to. i did one in november but only posted shorts from it and ive got another one coming up next month on the 2nd. then another in may.
Nice 👍
Great! Congratulations!
Thank you!
Excelente 🤜🏻🤛🏻
As someone whos studied HEMA for aboit 8 years now, I want to say that anyone who makes the claim that "x martial art would be totally overpowered by y martial art" is *not* a martial artist. Real practitioners of any style of combat arts would tell you that it is the artist, not the style, that makes the difference. We are all limited to the same biochemical movements as humans, and there are only so many ways you can attack/defend.
i am absolutely certain that the "your martial art could never stand against HEMA" types do not practice hema at all. they are just like orbiters. i have interacted with the HEMA community in person quite a bit now and never once encountered anyone of that mindset.
Congratulations Nari. The Nari cam would be a unique kind of view for some of your Bob videos.
I want to do the first person cam in a big group fight I think that would be fun
freaking awesome
I'm sorry but no serious scholar or primary source considers the mythical origin story of KK coming from Pahuyuth to be legitimate. It traces very openly to early XIX century and while there may be some influence of older systems the martial art as a whole was created from scratch - largely for physical betterment and entertainment purposes, which is likely why it's so good in regulated tournament context.
Anyway - I practiced KK before I got my first experience with one-handed swords in hema (ironic, since I come from a "saber country") and it proved very useful when I tried dual sidesword for the first time - I would've never performed as well as you have in your respective category though, mad respect!
I repeat the story as I heard it from Kru Pol. I am familiar with the criticisms of the origin story though that's why I call it reconstructionist and also why I study arnis as well because I heard modern KK owes alot to Arnis during its reconstruction. I must admit as a Buddhist I'm a bit biased to a good story about stuff coming from monks.
Krabi Krabong first appeared in 1935 when the first school was opened. According to the official Thailand foundation website it stated "We do not know the origin of Krabi-Krabong or who invented it. As far as we could trace back, Krabi-Krabong was first mentioned in the literature in the early Rattanakosin era" so according to them they are not entirely sure.
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Wait, isn't the saberist the FALSE EDGE HEMA GUY? HE IS SO LEGENDARY
Yes. I'm very happy to have been able to train with him. Fortunately I didn't get matched up with him at the tournament
@@NariMuayThai Yes, his skill is superb. He flow in and you are over, you're lucky to have met him irl, at least in my opinion.
But i saw some similarities in the cuts you adopted. Keep the good work.
I actually want to duel you some day. This spring-summer it may likely be possible.
My style is a mixture of Arabic, North and South Asian, Japanese and European.
I do a bit of everything and can fit into the rules of whatever sport.
You're dual wielding Krabikrabong reminds me of my own style
Well done! Very interesting. I wish you would've included some of the fights with commentary so one would understand what you are doing, why you would win this fight and lose that fight for example. Also some sparring footage with the HEMA people with commentary would've been interesting. Like what did you learn from them etc.
i didnt include the full fights in here because i figured cutting it down would make the video more watchable. i did post one of the fights in full with a scoreboard edited in if you are interested.
@@NariMuayThai Yeah I can understand, but I think it would've been cool with a couple of minutes of fight footage with commentary. What was difficult/easy with this opponent? What surprised you with this one? What techniques worked best for you and what didn't work at all? Just stuff like that would've been very interesting. Just my 2 cents.
@@Leadfoot_P71 thanks for the feedback! Will try to put stuff like that into future videos
did you learn krabi krabong and arnis exclusively from online sources?
I practiced hema for 1 month bécote i got my first medal, it just depends on the tournaments, they are not all worth the same
Donnybrook this year had a few people ranked within top 10 in whole world
Yeah, theres lots of mediocre tournaments, even ones attended by those who are ranked top worldwide.
@@ConkerBirdy what is your name so i can look up
your rank?
@@NariMuayThai if you think there's ranks or belts in hema then you clearly don't have much experience in hema
@@ConkerBirdy your ranking.
if you you have ever done an official hema tournament your wins and losses will be catalogued and you will have a ranking. anyone can look this up on hemaratings.com.
the fact that you dont understand this tells me you have never done an official tournament.
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I could be wrong, but I think Krabi Krabing is from Cambodia. Thanks for sharing.
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Yes, you're wrong :)
I've never gotten a chance to train Cambodian martial arts, I do enjoy learning about Bokator, the unarmed fighting. I'm not sure what the weapon art in Cambodia is called
A person wins not a style. You have to be faster than oponent.
It's why sport fencers after very limited practice with their hema weapon of choice and getting used to rulesets usually bitchslap dedicated HEMA folks into oblivion. Superior distance management, great reaction times and bind perception, general athleticism instead of beer belly, weak tendons, low fatigue cap and long recovery (aka bad mitochondrial and/or cardiovascular development)
@@Sk0lzky Not sure how I feel about this generalisation. Competitive sports fencers will train more hours, and more of those hours will be spent actually fencing. A lot of hema clubs can only afford to run classes once or twice a week, and because of the historical aspect more time is spent fencing by the book and learning the plays and techniques alongside sparring. Obviously its anecdotal, but locally a hema club ran a sabre tournament with sports sabres and right of way rules, there was a competitive epeeist who came interstate for it. And he was really good, lightning fast footwork and tricky setups, but he still dropped matches to a few of the higher level hema guys. I think in general, your point has merit, because the talent pool for hema is smaller and the median skill level much lower. But if you matched athletes of either sport for competitive history and average training hours, that would be a much more interesting comparison
Couple of circumstances that aided in your victory: The skill level of women in HEMA is generally low because there are very few women in the sport, so anyone who just trains hard already has an advantage.
Second, half of the footage from the tournament you've shown is showing mismatched weapons, so at least those cannot really be said to be representative of the skill your martial art taught you, rather that you had an advantage from the onset (having a shield while your opponent doesn't is frankly just not fair)
I mean kudos to you for setting your mind to something and having an achievement, but ... this is also just very little data to go on to compare arts or the quality/historical accuracy of the arts in question, which seems to be the framing device of your video to me.
Larpers have also used techniques to train at home that have gotten them success in HEMA tournaments. The skill level in HEMA in general is so varied it's hard to get any hard data on any situation comparing it to any other art, especially one that claims to be "unbroken" or close enough to be considered as such by its practitioners.
Didn't get to fight against any women in this tournament sadly. There was 6 top rated 100 fencers in the world at this tournament I doubt that the competition is stiffer in other places.
If we actually wanted to compare krabi krabong vs hema we need some heme tournament approved dual dhab swords
Congrats! You bring up a very important point that a lot of HEMA folks are in denial about, that it's a recreation. It's not so much about the particular style of fighting, but simply that HEMA has been recreated out of books by folks who generally had no prior training, and it's really a first generation art. While I'm not familiar with Krabi Krabong, I imagine the people who are resurrecting it are mostly already highly trained in closely related principles, and have experienced coaches and experts to help them along.
HEMA created by folks with no training is a myth. Every big hema dinosaurs got their experience from multiple weapon arts such as Olympic fencing or Kendo, Arnis...They understand how body mechanics work, and use that knowledge to recreate the arts from the treatises through trial and error
In reality most swordsmanship is comparable, most of the skills and techniques would carry over. But Hema weapons are typically better, which you used. Weapon shape forms the basics of technique, a similar weapon uses similar techniques. I beat a Kendo guy and all I ever did was stick fighting. I used basic two sword block and thrust which he wasn't prepared for. They probably wouldn't critique you if you simply used sparring footage like this. Don't do the multiple slashes garbage you showed at the beginning, I use two sticks and I would ultimately tell you just to switch out one of the cutting blades for any thrusting sword.
i won second place in a longsword tournament while only having 8 months of kendo. I don't think kendo is really that bad
@@The_true_Joe_mama He was fine dealing with one sword. My other friend had similar Sword Play to Kendo and he did fine as we practiced all the time. I'm really good at using two swords efficiently.
@@stevenoconnor3256 Kendo is is mostly olympic fencing. Good for the muscles, harder training and discipline. It's good as an introduction
@@The_true_Joe_mamathere's lots of video evidence of high ranking kendoka getting mogged by mid tier longsworders.
It's a rubbish martial art that's only kept alive by Japan and Western japanophilia
my friend i've posted enough to know that no matter what you do there will always be people who come to critique whatever you do and the ones who critique the most normally know the least.
the ones who actually know are more likely to say "good job, keep training"
Your opponents seem to be hesitant to hit you, I would be too if I had to fight you if you wore an arnis fencing jacket. One blade snap and you're going to the hospital.
There was too many cases where the opponent could've easily doubled you out but didnt. A lot of your attacks left you exposed and you only got lucky because the opponents didnt strike an afterblow.
There is potential but to say you did well purely of the martial art you did is incredibly facetious.
the arnis jacket was was in addition to the gambeson and standard hema gear. i was technically the most protected person in the entire tournament wearing two layers of armor.
you don't sound like someone who has any experience in HEMA at all. but if you would like i would gladly gear up and fight you and we can put the video up for everyone to enjoy.
"fighting and humiliating internet trolls" content does very well.
@@NariMuayThai ouch I seem to have struck a nerve if you make claims like I've never done hema.
As long as you don't run around with an arnis jacket and follow all safety etiquette I'll gladly fence you.
And unlike your opponents I won't hesitate on the afterblow.
you already gave yourself away as not having any idea what you are talking about by not understanding how official tournament rankings works.
@@ConkerBirdy i don't think you have ever done an official tournament but i would happily take that back if you give me your name so i can look up your official tournament record to see how good you really are.
@@NariMuayThai Ah yes "Give me your real name so i can harass you!"
Yeah no, but i can play your game and share your name around because youre clearly out to harass people.
Ah yes, the historical european martial art of knifing each other behind the police station for a bag of rice you stole from the local petty king.