ATK Hy Free Binding Review

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
  • We were lucky enough to get our hands on the New ATK Hy Free, the new hybrid binding from ATK coming to North America in February 2025. Building on bindings like the Salomon Shift and Duke PT, the Hy Free is a true hybrid binding meant to handle the rigors of resort skiing. Unlike it's competitors' takes on a hybrid touring bindings however, the Hy Free keeps it comparatively light at 675 grams and is a much better touring platform.
    After our Review of the ATK Hy Free, we were impressed with the downhill performance, which was comparable to high performance alpine bindings. We were also blown away by the quality of manufacturing, which for anyone familiar with ATK shouldn't be a surprise. Our first impression of the binding was overwhelmingly positive, and we look forward to putting many more days on the Hy, both in backcountry and resort settings.
    As always, feel free to drop a comment or email us at info@cripplecreekbc.com with your thoughts or questions.

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  • @Shanemaley
    @Shanemaley หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Deepest dive since the embargo, thanks Cripple Creek crew 🤘

  • @alecferguson
    @alecferguson 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome review, very informative. Having fractured my ankle in tech bindings last year I'm definitely eyeing these.

  • @downhilldonnie
    @downhilldonnie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great overview. Haven’t seen a demo in English so this was great to see. Excited to see more options and innovation for the hybrid binding space. I’ve been running the Feeeraider 15 EVO and they’ve been fantastic

  • @keithmayotte1512
    @keithmayotte1512 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A zoom in on the parts of the binding you’re talking about would be great.

  • @InsideAlps
    @InsideAlps 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not a fan how you enter for touring mode with the toe; also the stance seems to be pretty high. I am a huge fan of Fritschi Tecton: less weight, alpine heel, front and back DIN adjustable, cheaper, works 100 % reliable. I'm currently using ATK Raider 13 for touring and Fritschi Tecton on two of my Freetouring skis. Thanks for the review.

  • @Johnwis-gp9yy
    @Johnwis-gp9yy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will keep my Cast 2.0 for now

  • @AlpineFrames
    @AlpineFrames หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @christorealov9050
    @christorealov9050 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Didn't understand why no DIN certification. Given what they are trying to achieve with this binding (and also price point), seems that being able to cite a DIN is a must.

    • @Whim396
      @Whim396 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They may also be awaiting approval on the cert.

  • @MostlyThoughtThisThrough
    @MostlyThoughtThisThrough หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sounds amazing. Although I'll probably wait until price comes down a bit. ATK site says 799 Euro rn which is over 2x the Shifts.

    • @alltoone
      @alltoone หลายเดือนก่อน

      Once it will get past the limited edition and will be released for full market sales you can get it with discounts. The suggested retail price will not drop as it is the case with any ATK binding but there are always discounts available. Especially here in Europe several times a year you can find something like an ATK Freeraider 15 EVO with a 10, 15 % discount.

  • @danielboozan3932
    @danielboozan3932 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What was it like doing step and firm traverses in tour mode? Could see the pin height being an issue or helpful

  • @colinwatt00
    @colinwatt00 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That touring height mode is a dealbreaker for me. I’ve been waiting years for these to build a ‘lightweight’ free tour set-up (Moment Deathwish Tour 104s) for firmer conditions and longer tours compared to my current set-up (Moment Deathwish Tour 112s), but getting a narrower ski and standing that much taller is not confidence inspiring to me.
    As a point of philosophical discussion, I find it interesting how ATK produced a binding with better downhill features than uphill. Personally, my primary reason for wanting this style of binding is the alpine toe release mechanism. Maybe I’m wrong for this, but I would have anticipated (and been fine with) ATK using the traditional ‘pin’ style heel piece. This would position the binding as more of an uphill or mixed-performance binding and likely be even lighter. Perhaps we’ll see this in the future, but at the risk of sounding dramatic on the internet (lol), I’m honestly disappointed in the climbing height of that toe piece. While I’m no engineer, I am confident if ATK set it as a design goal, that toe height could come down. ….and the day that happens, I’ll be placing an order. Until then, it’s another pair of Shift gen 1s for this guy.

  • @mjern0
    @mjern0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lets talk about that Tecnica prototype boot!

    • @alltoone
      @alltoone 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am curious to know at what boot prototype from Tecnica you are referring to as the 2025 Tecnica ski boot line just brought only the application of BOA on a version of the Mach model. An update of the Cochise with a full Vibram sole and a power plate similar to the SCARPA Quattro will be a good option.
      Also on the freetouring/freeride spectrum making a low volume version of the Cochise ski boot will be also a very good option to compete with the Lange XT3 Free 140 Pro Lv.
      I also hope Kästle will come up with a freetouring boot as their racing and alpine ski boot models are really good.

    • @mjern0
      @mjern0 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alltoone Rewatch this ATK Hy Free review....the black boot in the video with "Proto" written on the side!!!! Not the Scarpa boot in the shop portion of the video but the boot in the on-hill segments. (5:29, 6:14)

    • @alltoone
      @alltoone 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@mjern0 thanks for the hint. That boot is actually the prototype of the newly updated Tecnica Zero G Pro touring boot.
      On this channel he has an older video showing the black Proto boot and he mentions he beta tested the pre-release version of this boot. You can see the review here: th-cam.com/video/1fZNzUq-vI4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wSHQfBCTGxVe4GhN

  • @seamusboyd-porter5971
    @seamusboyd-porter5971 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the mount pattern match the Raiders or is it a completely new pattern?
    Thanks for the review!

    • @whitcj
      @whitcj หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m interested in this too, same bolt pattern or does it need a new mount and jig even?

    • @alltoone
      @alltoone หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not sure about the front unit but the heel unit has the same Raider power plate.

  • @danieljakowski7799
    @danieljakowski7799 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How flat ist the skiing delta in Reality? Would love to know what the pin delta for a ZGTP would be. Comment on the negative toring delta, clever from ATK to sell an abvious design compromse as a feature!.

  • @maxwright4387
    @maxwright4387 หลายเดือนก่อน

    daaaamn those are pretty

  • @jarmelnelson
    @jarmelnelson หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does it compare to the Dynafit Rotation?

  • @_wesleyrich_
    @_wesleyrich_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I get these asap? The launch edition seems to be sold out.

  • @thechezik
    @thechezik หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Is there gap between the ski boot and ski in toe area ?

  • @Haztelo
    @Haztelo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How does it compare to the ski trab tr1?

    • @kylejohnson8043
      @kylejohnson8043 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is exactly the question!

    • @hristohristov8797
      @hristohristov8797 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But can you compare them to tr1? I would say probably not since they are different concept to begin with. ATK are not using pin toe piece in riding mode.

  • @garyhoffman1
    @garyhoffman1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Marker Kingpin m-works are 620g.

    • @hristohristov8797
      @hristohristov8797 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, but m-works have toe piece with pins, can`t compare them by my opinion.

  • @louisphil1987
    @louisphil1987 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are the differences with the Fritschi Tecton? Pros/Cons

    • @jackvanlierop6090
      @jackvanlierop6090 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tecton doesn't have an alpine toe, instead it has an adjustable release toe. Tecton has a much more neutral walk mode, with two risers as well I'd imagine it has a higher riser setting than the Hy Free. You can also rip skins and transition to ski mode without talking your skis off with the Tectons. Roughly 80 grams lighter as well.

  • @patrickchase1884
    @patrickchase1884 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much toe elasticity does it have?
    8:45 - "The real advantage of [the shimmed AFD/ is that you're not going to have any strange pre-releases and failures from that plate slipping up and down". Whatever could he be referring to there? The behavior he's describing sounds pretty Shifty... (seriously, I use Shifts on my powder skis, and as long as you keep an eye on that screw every couple weeks and position it on the most solid part of the "step" it's OK).

    • @cripplecreekbackcountry6800
      @cripplecreekbackcountry6800  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, we aren't trying to name names, but there was certainly one binding that came to mind when we said that...

    • @David-cp6rl
      @David-cp6rl หลายเดือนก่อน

      What causes the prerelease with shifts? Is it because the afd drops after being set so there is now a gap? I've been trying to figure mine out for years. I shoot for being able to slide a biz card with some friction.

  • @solebootlab7541
    @solebootlab7541 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Aren't we comparing this to bindings with 12mm elastic travel, Kingpin and 47mm shift, weight aside, and purchase lever, this binding seems to be delivering low elasticity to weight ratio that seems more looks than function???? Your skis don't flex properly, or at least as designed, ATK are in my mind more capable than this.

    • @robvolk
      @robvolk หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I also don't get the "with 675 g it's significantly lighter than any other hybrid binding we've seen in the past" statement.
      Is the Kingpin not a hybrid binding anymore? The M-Werks Kingpin weighs 655 g.
      Makes this video sound more like ATK marketing talk than anything else. And I'm a fan of ATK, but this is not it.

    • @cripplecreekbackcountry6800
      @cripplecreekbackcountry6800  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@robvolk In our minds that comment was more directed at bindings like the Shift, Duke PT, and Cast systems. The Kingpin and Tecton are both lighter than the Hy Free, but they still have a tec toe, while the HY Free has an alpine style toe in downhill mode.

    • @robvolk
      @robvolk หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cripplecreekbackcountry6800 Fair enough.

    • @brookscurran
      @brookscurran หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have no idea where the 47mm of elastic travel number on the shift comes from, you’re either in or you’re out of that binding and it feels like there’s very little elastic travel in the heel before the out happens…

    • @smallzookeeper6180
      @smallzookeeper6180 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brookscurran you have only to understand how to adjust it correctly, it's easy done, but just as easy to mess up.

  • @ondrejjanoska660
    @ondrejjanoska660 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Not a review just an overview!

  • @Stayjanley
    @Stayjanley หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you switch from downhill to touring without stepping out of the toe?

    • @cripplecreekbackcountry6800
      @cripplecreekbackcountry6800  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, you have to step out so you can flick the toe up to expose the pins.

  • @pezsp1
    @pezsp1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no din cert, i smell shiiiiit!

  • @NaumHN
    @NaumHN หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    SKi trab Tr1 is lighter! And significantly cheaper 🙂

    • @alltoone
      @alltoone หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But the Tr1 has just a front part with pins. It does not "transform" for the downhill in a fully alpine binding. The ATK Hy binding is the equivalent to the Salomon Shift, similar technology only lighter.

    • @hansi26
      @hansi26 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alltoone no - its not a shift by any means as its not DIN certified.

    • @alltoone
      @alltoone หลายเดือนก่อน

      @hansi26 I never said it is DIN certified, but it will compete directly with the shift as both they offer a similar resort binding downhill mode.
      I am looking forward to see what the renowned freeriders will say about this binding as for sure there will be many interested to test one.

    • @Haztelo
      @Haztelo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ski trab tr1 has lateral elasticity in the front. From my experience I can't tell the difference between this and most downhill bindings.

    • @thicccboyztv
      @thicccboyztv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@hansi26true, and actually works/mostly metal unlike the shift which is junk.