*Junpei gets gut punched Makoto: oh no, anyway... *Yukari gets somewhat threatened Makoto:🎶Whole lotta moves I make on you like the dance floor, and during this beatdown you prolly wish that you can fast foward *OH!* 🎶
I think it's an interesting bit of consistency that in the early game Makoto can't do much to help with those thugs, but later on in social links like this or Nozomi Suemitsu's he can stand up to dudes just fine.
That's true. It's different in the anime where it has him throwdown with the gangsters during the investigation with Yukari and Junpei (before Shinji arrives)
@@SA_Vengarr Not only fighting demons, but summoning the persona tires you too. So it's like training in a gravity chamber with high risk of death. Those thugs are nothing. Twelve thugs is actually nothing aswell. He must see them punching in slow motion. Akihiko must have gotten a whole lot better at boxing too. If he was invincible with his 15 win streak, then he must have been world champion level by the end of the game.
Later that evening Mitsuru: Takeba I have heard you’ve got into an altercation with three thugs and -protag- was with you Yukari: oh uh yeah but he beat the crap out of them Akihiko: * leaps down the stairs from the 2nd floor * HE DID?! DID YOU SEE IT?! HOW DID HE DO IT?! DID YOU RECORD IT?! *shakes Yukari violently*
i think people in these comments aren’t realizing how the social links work. a lot of the interactions best outcomes are what the other person wants to hear, not what they need to hear or what you want to tell them (think kenji, encouraging him to pursue a married adult will bet the most points). for the im sorry choice, it’s more of her needing to hear something that calms her down in that moment. being told advice immediately after that situation is not a good choice
@@w1nther930it's a really helpful thing, don't be that asshole who says things "how they should be" and brags about how sincere and genuine they are, had a friend like that, absolutely insufferable.
That's exactly what i noticed by doing kenji's social link. I didn't agree with his choices at all, but after a while, i realized it was really just saying "tell him what he wants to hear", which i don't particularly like. If much prefer "tell them what they need to hear," honestly
It's more reasonable here, nobody wants to listen to some preaching asshole after almost getting assaulted. It's really not the same thing as enabling Kenji or Kaz.
@@xmant8842 That's the only thing I don't like about the Social Link system in Persona. Unless I am straight up a dick, I don't want to get punished for saying what I want to say. But if you don't use the most effective route, you have to waste several days doing nothing, seeing less of the game.
* Junpei gets punched Makoto: "Oh no, anyway..." *Yukari gets threatened Makoto: "This can go two ways, punk. One, you walk away. Two, I walk on your face."
Junpei does deserve it. Still waiting on his apology for endangering yours and Yukari's lives out of ego in the train mission. Whytf did Mitsuru not at least reprimand him?
It's still Amazing to me how he didn't just beat them up he beat them up badly like dude came out unscathe with zero effort and decided to TOD every single one if even Yukari describe it as such.
They definitely toned down Yukari in this game, alongside a few other characters. Which I do feel was a good decision, since the original felt too extra at points, while here that sound a little more toned down.
@@nijimavtuber"Did it worse". In your opinion. I actually like that she didn't yell here in the English dub of Reload, but was just like "I didn't need saving" in a neutral tone.
I'm somewhat displeased by the general waifufication of most of the girls in the remake. I mean it ain't awful or anything, I'm not trying to be one of those Twitter using addicts that call everything sexist. But in the original I believe u get the option to hug her after this which will reverse the s link. But in the remake u don't even get any reverse options here I believe. I think the scene on the beach showcases this issue the best as it too was WAY more aggressive in the original. Also before someone gets the wrong idea, if u witness somebody before beat the shit out of 3 people, right infront of u, and then u very reasonably ask what the hell they just did, then they proceed to randomly hug u! (Especially in japan since hugging is a very implicit act in that culture, basically only meant for couples) Dont u think that would be rather upsetting too?
I think they overall toned down a lot of the aggressive side of characters. Junpei was the most notable for me, almost all his link episodes involve him saying "sorry for being a dick" and the moments themselves where he acts annoyed felt really short.
Uh, saying the "You're a girl" option *does* reverse her Social Link, though Not just her. If you choose to kiss Chihiro at Rank 5 of her link, it'll also reverse it
@@LeafyPeach it's funny because on my first playthrough of p3 I vaguely remember that being the exact reason I didn't like yukari It wasn't just that I didn't care for her much but that the game gives you so many false choices involving her to the point that it made me incapable of caring about her character
@@screenname6829 option a> option b> option c> option d> etc. Doesn't really matter when it's just a mere change in flavour text. 😹 This is why games like Fallout New Vegas, for example, are so highly regarded and rare. Totally up to the player how the game's storyline progresses.
I really don't like the dub for this. I know some people don't like her yelling but that's what made her sound real to me. Sometimes people lash out unexpectedly in stressful situations. Also, it doesn't matter if you don't want to respond with "I'm sorry." The point of the Lovers Arcana is that you succumb to an UNCONDITIONAL relationship.
No there her Anger made even less Sense. And she didnt even apologize even tough Makoto helped her out. She maybe capable of a lot of Things by herself. But three Guys gang up on you is dangerous no matter who you are. And seeing how those kind of Things happen in my Country you can still say its better for a Girl to have someone with you. Even if he cant defend the Girl he can buy Time that she can run away. The worst is a Beatdown for the Guy or he is able to defend himself for a bit until help comes. But for Women that kind of Thing is more dangerous in more despicable Ways some of those Gangs could come up with.
@@michaelbarrett8141She's angry at herself and just lashed out when she didn't really mean to. Remember she believes being independent means not needing to rely on other people to show how strong she is. She got a reality check and her worldview got shattered and made her a bit irrational. After calming down a bit she does say it was wrong for her to react like that and she does greatly appreciate his help. Also that's the turning point when their relationship leans into becoming more romantic, because she finally found someone she can fully open up to.
TYPICAL, getting the men to apologize even when it's NOT his fault as the "BEST" answer. I would've chose "it's okay to rely on others" REGARDLESS of the game's mechanics. MC helped her and HE's the one she berates for HELPING HER? Glad I didn't WASTE MY MONEY on this. The OG P3FES is the REAL P3 remake.
Smh lmaoo you don’t have to choose the best answer if you don’t want to even in FES she got mad in this scene so your just getting mad at this game just to get mad at this point. And this is why og players are annoying complaining just to complain when you literally are blinded by your own nostalgia she even goes as far as saying hey don’t apologize it’s my fault smh
@@MariinKitagawa Best answer in terms of game mechanic. Meaning you get more Social Links progress if you choose that option. And THIS is why the "modern audience" are the PLAGUE to the fandom.
All that Tartarus grinding must've paid off for Makoto to be able to beat up 3 guys and not even look tired
He must have a ridiculously high crit rate. Thats a lot of One More’s.
they were weak against phisical attacks
@@Ologalis in other words cock shot
Nah, that's just the power of a Japanese orphan.
@rFreakingSix Lmao dude 😂
In the original she actually got mad, like literal yelling
Yeah, why she did That? Not Even a thanks
I can see why she gets hate now.
because she asks the mc to not come with her? I swear yukari haters never read dialogue
@mako8091 Try saying that to someone in real life then. Just claiming somebody suddenly like that. I bet you'd be quiet the charmer.
@@tomo8940 what are you on about? I thought the community was unreasonable until I read this info.
*Junpei gets gut punched
Makoto: oh no, anyway...
*Yukari gets somewhat threatened
Makoto:🎶Whole lotta moves I make on you like the dance floor, and during this beatdown you prolly wish that you can fast foward *OH!* 🎶
Don't you worry about it, I'll save some room for your last words, after I do this do that and the third
don'tchu worry 'bout it, simply say your last words - i guess you'll just do that in the dirt
@@lilsweeet0672DISTURBING THE PEEEEEAAAAACE
he also fights against thugs when he's with akihiko, makoto just liked junpei getting punched
@@0uttaS1TELOOK INTO MY EEEEEEEYES
I have no shame
holy cow!
Huh, good for you.
Pull down your pants
YOLO amiright?
Pull down your pants
she left for 2 sec and bro got worried
I think it's an interesting bit of consistency that in the early game Makoto can't do much to help with those thugs, but later on in social links like this or Nozomi Suemitsu's he can stand up to dudes just fine.
Fighting demons inside a tower from hell will make a man out of you fast.
That's true. It's different in the anime where it has him throwdown with the gangsters during the investigation with Yukari and Junpei (before Shinji arrives)
@@SA_Vengarr Not only fighting demons, but summoning the persona tires you too. So it's like training in a gravity chamber with high risk of death. Those thugs are nothing.
Twelve thugs is actually nothing aswell. He must see them punching in slow motion.
Akihiko must have gotten a whole lot better at boxing too. If he was invincible with his 15 win streak, then he must have been world champion level by the end of the game.
Later that evening
Mitsuru: Takeba I have heard you’ve got into an altercation with three thugs and -protag- was with you
Yukari: oh uh yeah but he beat the crap out of them
Akihiko: * leaps down the stairs from the 2nd floor * HE DID?! DID YOU SEE IT?! HOW DID HE DO IT?! DID YOU RECORD IT?! *shakes Yukari violently*
Akihiko: "I've been waiting for this!"
Also Akihiko: DIDJA SEE THAT SHINJI?!
"Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary"
Waiting is part of my strategy!
Akihiko moment
Its good that Makoto became a door, otherwise the way things could go with Yukari, he would've been the bed.
Fuck, now I'm imagining it
I mean she's most likely the cannon girl so i wouldn't be surprised if Atlus did have a valentines day date it would've went like that
They are canon. That's why she's depressed in The Answer
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i think people in these comments aren’t realizing how the social links work. a lot of the interactions best outcomes are what the other person wants to hear, not what they need to hear or what you want to tell them (think kenji, encouraging him to pursue a married adult will bet the most points). for the im sorry choice, it’s more of her needing to hear something that calms her down in that moment. being told advice immediately after that situation is not a good choice
Not a game teaching me how to give people what they want to hear
@@w1nther930it's a really helpful thing, don't be that asshole who says things "how they should be" and brags about how sincere and genuine they are, had a friend like that, absolutely insufferable.
That's exactly what i noticed by doing kenji's social link. I didn't agree with his choices at all, but after a while, i realized it was really just saying "tell him what he wants to hear", which i don't particularly like. If much prefer "tell them what they need to hear," honestly
It's more reasonable here, nobody wants to listen to some preaching asshole after almost getting assaulted. It's really not the same thing as enabling Kenji or Kaz.
@@xmant8842 That's the only thing I don't like about the Social Link system in Persona. Unless I am straight up a dick, I don't want to get punished for saying what I want to say. But if you don't use the most effective route, you have to waste several days doing nothing, seeing less of the game.
* Junpei gets punched
Makoto: "Oh no, anyway..."
*Yukari gets threatened
Makoto: "This can go two ways, punk. One, you walk away. Two, I walk on your face."
Junpei does deserve it. Still waiting on his apology for endangering yours and Yukari's lives out of ego in the train mission. Whytf did Mitsuru not at least reprimand him?
The only takeaway I got from this is that makoto can beat human ass
Yeah he can even fist fight the final boss
It's still Amazing to me how he didn't just beat them up he beat them up badly like dude came out unscathe with zero effort and decided to TOD every single one if even Yukari describe it as such.
All that persona fighting pays off. Mc over here giving out free ass kickings to normies and not breaking a sweat.
I wish they let this use a yakuza 5 fighting mode.
You can’t just pull the “don’t apologize” card when you clearly wanted him to apologize
Kiryu in distance: That's Rad
KIRYU-CHAN!
Majima in the distance: Holy shit!
yuki: so... you're just gonna take off like that? i thought we're eating ramen
we went all the way to the place, waited for you, searched you, got my hands dirty and now you just go home...
give her time, you will be eating her instead after this
@@hyde-oi8vf ???
That's one way to get a girlfriend. A bit cliché but effective
No. Just no.
@@toasterfighter Exactly. My girl would've broken my neck if i tried that on her before we were together.
@@toasterfighterto which part?
@@channel45853 effective, almost every person these days knows that they don’t owe someone sex because they were saved by them
Or how to lose a friend. It's a highly risky play that should only be used if you both are very into each other and know it.
3:03 Jeez, makoto took that personally.
i did this option in my gameplay because who cares, fuck it, we ballin'
One of the most reasonable comments here
It’s a video game so we’re picking the riskiest dialogue options baby
The Rizzard
" Ill be fine, so dont come after me got it? "
Ladies and gentlemen
She was not fine.
"I could kick your guys' ass right now, but I don't want to promote the stereotype that all Asians know karate..."
(Pulls out samurai sword)
Isn’t Junpei the one with- nevermind
@@littlebabyman8494 *Pulls out a wakizashi* (it's the small knife/dagger thing that samurai have with their katana)
i LITERALLY got to this scene today
LMWO did he just beat up three thugs
Goddamn
2:27 battle music starts playing
I really thought he was about to use his persona on them
Punks: Wait why do you have a gun?! W-why are you pointing it at your head!?
Makoto: *Summons Jesus fucking Christ to beat their ass*
Yukari: DAMMIT MAKOTO THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET
Honestly, who in their right mind would pick "you're a girl, so..."
Reminds me of a scene from devil Survivor
Yes, when Yuzu introduces MC to Gin.
Does anyone notice that Yukari’s handbag went through her skirt at 2:30
Why she was morr angry in the original?
Severe mommy issues.
EN dub did it worse, in JP she was very mad just like in the original.
They definitely toned down Yukari in this game, alongside a few other characters.
Which I do feel was a good decision, since the original felt too extra at points, while here that sound a little more toned down.
@@nijimavtuber"Did it worse". In your opinion. I actually like that she didn't yell here in the English dub of Reload, but was just like "I didn't need saving" in a neutral tone.
Kazuma Kiryu would be proud
I saw yukari off…saw her off where, we live in the same dorm…what-
He brough her to the door of her room...?
makoto can do some kung fu moves fr though. even in the original game.
did that wilduck burger stick out in the background for anyone else who came from Persona 5?
I don't remember that choices in portable.
Yukari is canon
Who the heck says "vehemently" nowadays?
Anyone know what the version of Memories of You that plays at the end is called? I've heard it before but can't find it
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I not sure but I think that may be the movie version
Im pretty sure its just the intro movie of P3FES
because i will protect you
I'm somewhat displeased by the general waifufication of most of the girls in the remake. I mean it ain't awful or anything, I'm not trying to be one of those Twitter using addicts that call everything sexist. But in the original I believe u get the option to hug her after this which will reverse the s link. But in the remake u don't even get any reverse options here I believe. I think the scene on the beach showcases this issue the best as it too was WAY more aggressive in the original.
Also before someone gets the wrong idea, if u witness somebody before beat the shit out of 3 people, right infront of u, and then u very reasonably ask what the hell they just did, then they proceed to randomly hug u! (Especially in japan since hugging is a very implicit act in that culture, basically only meant for couples) Dont u think that would be rather upsetting too?
I think they overall toned down a lot of the aggressive side of characters. Junpei was the most notable for me, almost all his link episodes involve him saying "sorry for being a dick" and the moments themselves where he acts annoyed felt really short.
Negative points are just makes players mad.
It does reverse the link if you say it's because she's a girl
Uh, saying the "You're a girl" option *does* reverse her Social Link, though
Not just her. If you choose to kiss Chihiro at Rank 5 of her link, it'll also reverse it
Imagine actually waiting there lol glad you picked the right choice the 2nd time
I waited all the way and I got same thing anyway.
@@geerky42hate it when games do that. False player agency, why even do that anyway? Such bs game design.
@@LeafyPeach it's funny because on my first playthrough of p3 I vaguely remember that being the exact reason I didn't like yukari
It wasn't just that I didn't care for her much but that the game gives you so many false choices involving her to the point that it made me incapable of caring about her character
@@screenname6829 option a> option b> option c> option d> etc. Doesn't really matter when it's just a mere change in flavour text. 😹
This is why games like Fallout New Vegas, for example, are so highly regarded and rare. Totally up to the player how the game's storyline progresses.
@@LeafyPeach I still start new games every now and again on new Vegas. It's timeless
3:15 then stop missing 👏
She did, no more memes :(
@@toasterfighter fantastic actually, BRILLIANT profile picture. 💛🤍🎀
anime tropes try not to be actual dogshit challenge
K
I really don't like the dub for this. I know some people don't like her yelling but that's what made her sound real to me. Sometimes people lash out unexpectedly in stressful situations. Also, it doesn't matter if you don't want to respond with "I'm sorry." The point of the Lovers Arcana is that you succumb to an UNCONDITIONAL relationship.
Waifu simulator
writing in this game is kinda ass lowkey
Nah yukari is like a kid Sakura in Naruto
@@akspybot123fff8 i mean sakura was also horribly written lmao
She was doing a little to much at first
Bahahahaha
She is so ungrateful
Mc should've just left her to her devices, it's clear she doesn't appreciate his actions. 🤦♂️
@@LeafyPeach fr💀
didnt she say sorry multiple after this and she only did this because she felt like she was becoming her mother who she dislikes
The original was better.
No there her Anger made even less Sense. And she didnt even apologize even tough Makoto helped her out. She maybe capable of a lot of Things by herself. But three Guys gang up on you is dangerous no matter who you are. And seeing how those kind of Things happen in my Country you can still say its better for a Girl to have someone with you. Even if he cant defend the Girl he can buy Time that she can run away. The worst is a Beatdown for the Guy or he is able to defend himself for a bit until help comes. But for Women that kind of Thing is more dangerous in more despicable Ways some of those Gangs could come up with.
@lbarrett8141 She apologizes in the following social link range always.
@@michaelbarrett8141She's angry at herself and just lashed out when she didn't really mean to. Remember she believes being independent means not needing to rely on other people to show how strong she is. She got a reality check and her worldview got shattered and made her a bit irrational. After calming down a bit she does say it was wrong for her to react like that and she does greatly appreciate his help. Also that's the turning point when their relationship leans into becoming more romantic, because she finally found someone she can fully open up to.
That's because the VA in the remake are trash.
@@michaelbarrett8141dude, if the main character can do it, so can she. They all go through the same stuff, she fights shadows too yknow
Yukari is so cliche it hurts, such a basic ass character
TYPICAL, getting the men to apologize even when it's NOT his fault as the "BEST" answer. I would've chose "it's okay to rely on others" REGARDLESS of the game's mechanics.
MC helped her and HE's the one she berates for HELPING HER?
Glad I didn't WASTE MY MONEY on this. The OG P3FES is the REAL P3 remake.
Smh lmaoo you don’t have to choose the best answer if you don’t want to even in FES she got mad in this scene so your just getting mad at this game just to get mad at this point. And this is why og players are annoying complaining just to complain when you literally are blinded by your own nostalgia she even goes as far as saying hey don’t apologize it’s my fault smh
@@MariinKitagawa
Best answer in terms of game mechanic. Meaning you get more Social Links progress if you choose that option. And THIS is why the "modern audience" are the PLAGUE to the fandom.
@@MariinKitagawaI'm an OG player and I'm fine with this, don't lump me in with this guy 😂
… are you ok?
Shut up weirdo.