You CANNOT Deny the Biblical Flood Once You Realize THIS | Ken Ham
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- You CANNOT deny the biblical flood once you realize THIS. In this presentation, Ken Ham shares his answer to the common question “Did Noah’s ark and the flood really happen?” as a Bible-believing Christian.
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I live in Mexico at an altitude of 5,200 feet above sea level. I was amazed to find sea shells in my backyard when putting in a garden.
That is due to plate tectonics pushing land that was once below sea level to an altitude above sea level, not a global flood. That is also how mountains are formed.
@@AntiMonitor52no you’re wrong
@@jaytkadv2429 nonsense
@@AntiMonitor52 repent or perish.
@@jaytkadv2429 blah blah blah yada yada yada
Satan deceives as many as he can because his time is short. God is Eternal forever!
Satan is made up by priests to excuse god when things go bad, as they often do! WAKE UP!!
The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18
@@davidpiot8098 But God can. 🤗
@@davidpiot8098 do you believe in love? You can’t see it but you believe it. You can’t see oxygen but you no it’s there. Point is, you have to make a choice, you can either decide to open your heart up and really see that God is real or you have your heart blocked and hardened and you will miss the chance at eternity in Heaven. I pray for you brother and really hope you at least will be open cause what would you do if you could see afterlife and realize you made the wrong choice. Just something to really think about. Be blessed.
@@davidpiot8098 ok, take care of yourself and God Bless my friend
John 20v29
"Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”"
Psalm 14
""The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt,
They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good."
You did very well as a disciple. 😊
Unfortunately, God can appear right in front of their faces, and they still won't believe. But there's always hope.
@@easybackyardbbq
Well put
“But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.”
Matthew 7:14
Then why did God make it that way? Doesn’t he want for everybody to find the path that leads to everlasting life with him?
@@elilane8627cuz God knows the end of His own book. He is just giving us a glimpse
So what? I would argue that him knowing the end result of his plan makes it even worse, he still chose to create people in such a way that only a few would ever find him and be saved from the hell that he also created specifically for them to be tortured in. If he wanted for everyone to believe in him and be saved he could have made that happen but he chose not to. Btw I’m not “angry at god” like Christians love to tell me, I don’t think he exists in the first place to be angry at. I’m just pointing out that if he exists and if he is as powerful as I’ve been led to believe by every Christian I’ve ever interacted with, surely he could have done better than this.
@@JesusIsLord7773 also are you saying we don’t have the whole book? Is the Bible given to us in incomplete form? Because I was told the Bible is the perfect word of God, and I don’t know if you knew this but the Bible does have an ending that tells us about the end of gods plan. And what it definitely does not say is that everyone will be saved.
@@elilane8627 Jesus said you must receive it as simply as a little child and many, most do not as they have to make it complicated and do not want to acknowledge their own sinfulness.
they are willingly ignorant of the creation the flood and the judgment.thank you ken.
There is abundant empirical scientific evidence that there was never a global flood, and consequently no ark. The flood story is FILLED with hyperbole that would have been recognized by its ancient audience as a figurative description of an event in order to produce an effect and make a theological point, and NOT an example of ancient journalism or accurate science.
sorry, not enough water to cover the entire planet for the flood myth.
Ignorant of two things that never happened and one thing that never will. Absolutely.
@@SuperSglenn yeah right. same goes 4 your big bang = thats myth too. something from nothing
@@RandomStuff-i4i your reply seems to be somewhat of a conundrum. first you claim it would not take much to convince them and then you claim their belief system is stuck. my suggestion to convince a person to believe in a god is to first identify which god it is and then to supply evidence to support your claim.
God bless you, Ken Ham.
@@truthforthetube no
@alicehodges9964
Not a fan
of Ham?
@@truthforthetube No I'm Not A Fan Of Religion I've Been Beginning To Hate It More And More Ok? I Hate The Young Earth Creationists And I Don't Like The Whole 7 Days Creation Nonsense 😒
@@truthforthetube It Hurts That He Thinks Atheists Are Hypocrites 😔 I'm Not A Hypocrite Got It?
Are you open to the idea of intelligent design ? (Maybe aliens?)
EXACTLY RIGHT MR HAM, IF PEOPLE DONT BELIEVE OR KNOW GOD'S WORD AND THUS, BELOW ARE SCOFFERS AND MOCKERS IN THESE LAST DAYS ARE ABOUND!
@@fabbrofamily7038 note that the majority of atheists commenting on Answers in Genesis and icr videos are not 'mocking God'.. most are pointing out the nonsense and pseudoscientific bs that comes from people like Ken Ham. They are arguing against young Earth creationism, which is of course not synonymous with mocking any gods.
How you get this old and this intelligent and still believe these stories. He has to be lyin to us.
The flood story is true from the standpoint of geological studies, but not the way he told it.
The seas rose very rapidly as the huge lakes that formed from the three mile thick ice sheets broke loose and it appears that there were several occasions when the sea level took huge volumes of water in a day or two. The amazing fact is the stories were passed down by story tellers from about 11,500 to 3,000 years ago before they were transcribed. There are stories almost that old passed down from that same time period in North America and about areas that were never ice covered or of horrific volcanos in Washington State. Geologists are only now realizing the Storys are true after studying the sediments. The problem with stories from times long ago is that the way people told stories is very different and some people take it for fact regardless of the fact the story has gone through many verbal written translations from one language to another.
@@tomsitzman3952 Noah is a mythological character. You are dealing with mythology.. Mythology begets mythology. There is no evidence of a Noah
This level of delusion is astonishing. This man is actually allowed to vote😮
@@oldschool5
The Bible's narrative is historical, not fantasy or mythology.
@justkerv Historical? Well can you provide me any evidence to a lady skipping childhood because she was created full grown from a rib of a man who then later had a verbal conversation with a talking serpent? Is there any evidence for that
You have to make a sale at the end ..... How noble you are !!
Ham the scam
God: all seeing, all knowing, all powerful...but not too good with money.
Reading all the posts here, i see that it is crowed here in America but the lords table will have many vacancies. You will be remembered.
Man its very difficult to tell a healthy adult that a 500 year old man built a boat.
What I find interesting about your videos is the absence of the number of "likes". I have never watched a video on TH-cam that didn't show the number of likes. Is this your doing or TH-cams way of discounting your content?
2:55 By the Grace of God A big part of Noahs Ark HAS miraculously been preserved to this day on the Mountains of Ararat at the Durupinar site. And God revealed it through his servant Ron Wyatt in 1987. Seek and you will find. Praise God!
Thank you Ken Ham and AiG! God bless your ministry more and more!
Amen! ❤️
@@mlamber7780 and @totobermundo Please learn to think for yourselves. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. God hates deception, right? Well, Ken is deceiving you. Read a geology book all the way through ( a real one, not one Ken's fake one's) and then ask yourself, which explanation for what the world is like is more likely?
Science, not religion.
Go see the rock layers in the Grand Canyon or even the Adirondacks.
Think!
Answers in Genesis is a group of religious pseudoscientists who use false information
I wonder why kangaroo fossils are only found in Australia and not anywhere between the mountains of Ararat and Australia.
Small population moving under various pressures. eg. Climate (ice age) predators etc. After the ice age sea levels rise and land bridges covered in water. No trace of migration remains. Even large populations of animals leave relatively few fossils. Interestingly there are cave paintings in India which may (or may not) depict kangaroos.
@@jefferygoldthorpe919 Not enough time -- not REMOTELY enough time for those migrations. Do the math... only a pair of Kangaroos... a single predator... no more Kangaroos. Stop lying!
@@EuclidFusionSupernovaThey started reproducing immediately And the predators were few and far between also. Additionally, God was in control to let the population spread throughout the world. Contraire to popular belief, God is smarter than we are... Give me five!
@@dr4391 So... when the rational science stops your explanation... you resort to magic then?
@@EuclidFusionSupernova Biases in science suppress the truth in the past and today (Covid). Real science supports the Bible.
Thanks Ken
Please explain how you get two of each kind on an ancient boat? A lion can eat 50lbs of meat a day! 2 lions, 2 tigers = 200lbs of meat a day & 6,000lbs in 30 days! An elephant can eat a tree of leaves a day. 2 elephants = 60 trees a month! That’s only 6 animal’s! Then you have 2 rhino’s, 2 hippo’s, giraffe’s, buffalo, moose, gorillas & 100’s of different apes & monkeys, 40-50 type of antelope, 100’s of different birds! DID’NT HAPPEN! Then you have people saying “they found a piece of the ark! Yeah right, wooden ships don’t make it past 500 years in the ocean. Then you have immaculate conception. 7 headed beasts. But the Bible says nothing about the dinosaurs! No mention of 1,200,000,000 yrs of earth’s geological history that’s missing!
Adam & Eve & the wicked serpent, another fairytale. Because that would mean we all came from incest! People don’t want to think of that, they just want to believe, blindly. Truth of the matter is we don’t know how we & all the different animals came to inhabit GODS EARTH.
Anyone else own "The True Meaning of the Rainbow" t-shirt? I have one, and I love it! Thanks, AiG!!
@taylorthetunafish5737 no, it wasn't God's little post-it note. The real rainbow is His promise to never destroy the earth by flood again. And God always keeps His promises.
@taylorthetunafish5737 how was it genocide when he destroyed everything due to serious evil corruption?
God didn't kill certain race, national, or any ethnic groups because of these things.
He said he will destroy everything and gave the reasons why.
How is it that you can't comprehend very basic words?
@taylorthetunafish5737 God knows evil is wrong and destroys it, something you athiest don't understand, you all complain that God doesn't do anything and then out the other side of you face you complain when God does something.
Btw we are all given the death penalty, capital punishment because of our transgressions, it's why we all die according to the Bible. The wages of sin is death and we have earned our wages because we are all guilty of breaking God's Moral Law which is written on our conscience.
God isn't unjustified in killing you you are guilty, it's not genocide for the simple fact
1) God isn't murdering you, because you are guilty and God is justified because he is the Law giver of Morality in the first place
2) God isn't killing you based on ethnicity, race, or nationality.
So again explain how you think God is guilty of genocide?
@@wm1958 In the flood God killed children, babies and animals. He also instructed the Israelites to kill all of the Cannanite children. This is genocide. Of course, if God is all powerful he can kill anything he has created, like a child stamping on his toys. You also seem to be using the logic that if God says something is good, then it is. They also use this sort of logic in North Korea.
I do like the way that you think that God is an equal opportunities genocidal killer. That did make me chuckle. An amusing logical fallacy if ever there was one, so well done for that.
Now, I don't think either the Flood or the Canaanite massacre are actual historical events. However, the author(s) of the Pentateuch did like to represent their deity with a generous anthropomorphic helping, as was typically the case in those times. it is a matter of faith that anyone would accept that the author actually had a hotline to the supreme creator of the universe who told him of all this, including all of the feelings of anger, vengeance, regret etc etc. Whether these events happened or not, it is worrying that christian theists feel that we all deserve the most awful and infinite suffering for merely existing.
LGBTQ t-shirt!?
Where to buy? Is that available globally?
I will not pretend that I have not frequently expressed my somewhat disparaging views on Answers in Genesis, but I really did make an effort to watch and to listen to this present video in the hope of finding (as the title promises) something to make me re-consider, however slightly, my views on the flood story. I saw first the title “You CANNOT Deny the Biblical Flood Once You Realize THIS”. That promises some pretty weighty arguments. I then found myself confronted with an all-capitals caption “EXPLAIN THIS, ATHEISTS”. I prepared myself for an interesting challenge, and the opportunity to exchange some perceptive and well thought-out debating-points.
I do not mean to be cynical, but I quite genuinely cannot even find what it is that I am challenged to explain, or what it is that I am expected to realise.
Mr Ham begins by telling us that the Bible says there was a flood. I knew that already and I don’t believe it. It must have been a global flood. Why? The Bible says so. Sorry, but I still don’t believe it. There have been regional floods, but this was a world-wide flood. Again - why? Again, the only argument : the Bible says so. The Bible was written by people who didn’t know that Australia, Antarctica and the Americas even existed. But of course you say it's God's word, and there is no point my saying anything else. That is not a debate.
I already know there are lots of Flood myths. I already know they share a lot in common. Perhaps we can dicuss what that implies... but no. Mr Ham tells me the Bible is the original. Oh, really ? How do we know ? The Bible is the word of God. Back to square one. And all the others are the result of the Tower of Babel. Why ? Surprise, surprise. The Bible says so.
How is it possible to discuss anything if the answer is always “The Bible says so”. The fossil record proves it. No it doesn’t. It proves no such thing. Ask any competent palaeontologist and/or any competent geologist. You might find one that is willing to agree with you : but for that one, there are a thousand others who will tell you, show you, explain to you and present you with the irrefutable proof that you are wrong. They will not just say “there’s a book that says so”.
You have a belief. I know my words will not have any effect whatsoever upon that belief. You can proclaim that belief if you so wish. I am not trying to convert you, or to sell you a set of books or tickets to an amusement park. But please have at least the good grace not to use fallacious expressions such as “You cannot deny X. Y or Z once you realise this”. I can deny it. I do deny it. Your statement is therefore false.
I was going to reply to this video. But this comment expressed all my objections! Well said.
You know, at the end of the day we can never give you enough proof if you don't want to believe it. If God Himself came down and spoke directly to you, you still would not believe if you didn't want to, you'd think you were hallucinating or something. But my friend, what happens to you after you die? You don't owe me a reply at all, but that question must ring in your ears in the quiet of your thoughts. It makes more sense to me, that someone created everything rather than nothing created everything and if that makes just a slight sliver of sense, then I implore you to seek out the Creator. I know, from my own life that when we seek Him with all our heart, soul, mind and strength, not from a place of pride or trying to prove something wrong, that He will show up. I'm going through a lot of pain right now, but Jesus has been giving me a peace that I wish I could hand you just a small bit of it through this message. I'm going to pray for you, I truly hope that you will have a moment where you realize life is meaningless unless there is something after, someone after. ❤
@@Psalm2710_Amen! Beautiful comment.
@@Skovyd Thank you. That's very kind.
@@Psalm2710_ Thank you for your reply, and let me say I am sorry that you are going through a painful time. I have no desire to contest your beliefs ; the more so if they bring you comfort. I count among my friends people of various religious convictions (or none at all) ; they are good, kind, considerate human beings.
But I think you misjudge me when you say that “we can never give you enough proof”. My whole point was that I listened to Ken Ham on the very grounds that he had something that I needed to “realise”. This is what he announced. I did not hear it. “It’s in the Bible” may be true, but on what grounds can he affirm that the Bible is entirely “God’s word”. My Hindu and Sikh friends are just as unconvinced as I am. On the other hand, Mr Ham states categorically that the biblical flood is confirmed by the fossil record. This is simply not true. He has been presented with a veritable mountain of proof to the contrary. Fossil records are just one of those irrefutable proofs. Cosmologists, geologists, palaeontologists, biologists, bacteriologists, archaeologists, oceanographers, astronomers (many of them also good, considerate people)... ALL concur in their conclusions : the Earth is billions of years old. There is not one shred of evidence to support the story of a global flood. They put before Mr Ham enough evidence to bury Mount Everest a thousand-fold, and he still merely replies “it’s in the Bible”.
I also take Mr Ham to task for using blatently dishonest language. "You cannot deny the biblical flood" is a false statement. I can and I do deny it. And the more I hear Mr Ham, the more I know he's wrong.
Just wanted to throw something out there for young Earth creationists who seem to think people who accept science are guilty of the 'appealing to authority' fallacy:
Accepting science is not an appeal to authority because scientific knowledge is established through evidence and experiments, not authority. In fact, Carl Sagan famously said, "One of the great commandments of science is, 'Mistrust arguments from authority'.
Ok?
Great, now please stop saying it's an appeal to authority.
My wife and I really enjoyed the Ark Encounter. I especially loved the ride that takes you back into time. That was amazing!
You really think a 500 year old man and his 3 sons could build something like that with a bronze axe and hammer?
@@davidgardner863 Well, with God all things are possible for one and two that was a long time ago before a world shattering event so how do we know what people were capable of doing at that time or what all they had available. I think they could have been farther advanced than we are today. Imagine the knowledge a person would have built up if they lived a few hundred years.
@@Fradycatcartoons , Are you suggesting that they had chain saws, lumber mills, diesel engines, generators, steel mills, computers, and Home Depot? Of course with God all things are possible, so he must have given Noah all that and more then made it all disappear except for a few bronze tools just to fool us. Thanks for enlightening me.
@@davidgardner863 They point out he could have hired workers. Doesn't mean they would have agreed to go aboard.
@@logicianbones , Noah hiring workers is one of the dumbest ideas that creationists have come up with. You have no idea of the manpower required for such a huge project. Even if it was possible (which it wasn’t) Noah would have to be the Elon Musk of his day to afford it and do you think Elon Musk is the most righteous man alive?
There was no worldwide flood. The ark, as described in the Bible could not have been built and even if it was, it would not withstand wave action. And it could not accommodate all those animals plus their food.
Thank you brother, Dr. Pastor Ham you already know all of what I'm about to say. I'm sharing it in full support of your clear Biblical teaching for those who may not know these things. It's along read and I'm not forcing anyone to do so but for those who want to it contains a lot of good information gathered from years of study.
Thank you again brother for you and your ministry and the amazing things you've accomplished by His will. He's blessed you and yours, all those around you greatly as I've heard you state in public on more than one occasion. I truly thank you for your faithful service to our Great God and Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
The world wide cataclysmic flood lasted for a total of 371 days. It was not just 40 days and 40 nights as many naively believe and parrot. At the end of that time there were 74 days in which the waters were rapidly receding to once again expose more and more dry land. Which would have been in itself catastrophic and resulted in huge deformations, slides, large deposits and other such events associated with vast amounts of water moving rapidly. The rapid recession of all that water saw huge canyons and valleys being carved as fast or faster than we see in modern representations such as "Mount Saint Helens" and other such events we've witnessed in recent history, disproving many of the millions or billions of years time tables. There would also have been vast amounts of vulcanism as a result of the rapid movement of the tectonic plates as they spread out from a single massive land mass, "super continent", as is proposed by many even in the secular world. There's the new sea floor being created during that time as the tectonic plates shifted and moved. Then there's all the other cataclysmic events contained in that world wide flood, due to the many volcanos, the "Ring of Fire" and "Super Volcanos" being active as a result of tectonic shifts resulting in many changes one of which was that new islands were formed. All of this would have naturally resulted in an Ice Age as the conditions of warm oceans with cool summers and mild winters would have been perfect for the precipitation needed for such an event. The amount of particulate in the atmosphere from all that vulcanism would also help explain and have been a large contributing factor to the normalization of temperatures during that time. As the oceans cooled, (study cooling associated with evaporation), the winters became colder and summers hotter, (due to less particulate in the atmosphere and reflection of sunlight), resulting in less precipitation and so the Ice Age came to an end. When looking for indicators as to what the weather was like at the end of or just after the Ice Age the Book of Job is an interesting study. It is thought to have been written after the ice age during a time when the earth was still being rebalanced, for lack of a better non scientific term. Even though in our Bibles Books such as Exodus and others are ordered before it, Job and the events in the Book were actually recorded, written before them. We see things discussed such as snow, hail and ice for one of if not the first times in Scripture. Weather phenomenon that Job had seen and could understand or the LORD would not have used them. 1 Corinthians 14:33.
Again the Book of Job is an interesting glimpse into those times and is thought to be among one of the oldest Books of the Bible. Fitting in the timeline after the flood had ended but still during a time of change 500 to 700 years after that global cataclysmic event. The timing of the Book of Job also gives us insights into how long the ice age lasted as we can see things were normalizing, rearranging into four very distinct seasons. The Ice Age was the natural result of a worldwide catastrophic flood and exactly what we would expect to find after such an event. As has been shown by the many evidences we see all around us and computer models that sadly do not see the same level of enthusiasm as the more manipulated secular models do. With their overrepresentation in media, schools and secular circles to the detriment of education and the sciences. We can see their closed minds and hearts, resulting in their inability to understand. When you look at the things made without the Creator who made them how can you possibly hope to understand the things that were made. Genesis 1:1, John 1:1-5, Ephesians 3:9
As always, brother Ham, you've presented the truth of God's Word and it's up to those who hear whether they will accept it or not. That's the problem though isn't it, the willingness to accept God's Word and by extension Him or continue to lean on one's own understanding and the imaginations of men.
Genesis 8:21
Psalm 14:1
Psalm 92:6
Psalm 111:10
Proverbs 18:2
Proverbs 27:22
(there are many such verses in Scripture)
Job 38:22, 29-30 (are an early reference to snow, hail and ice).
We who believe, (Romans 5:1), answer the proclamation, (hearing, Rom 10:17), of the Good News, the Gospel (Rom 10:9), that results in the Spirit of Grace, (Holy Spirit, Rom 8:11), being freely and lovingly given to us by our Great God and (abba, Rom 8:15 ) Father, due to the finished work on the Cross, (John 19:30, Rom 5:17), of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ. (Rom 5:10, Rom 5:11, 2 Cor 5:18, 2 Cor 5:21, Col 1:21, 1 Peter 3:18 and many more).
Now on to more things that pertain to eternal salvation:
John 14:6
Romans 10:9
and do not forget
Ephesians 6:10-18
Please take the last of these Scripture recommendations very seriously as you should with all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16-17), as it is your eternity, (and were you will spend it), that hangs in the balance, your eternal existence with or without Him.
May God Bless you and grant you the discernment we all must possess for the abundant and eternal life to be found only thru and in Him.
PS.
2 Corinthians 5:20, is one of the many reasons why I share these truths with all who will read them. I do it with love, humility and fear/awe of Him, sharing and giving a clear defense for the Hope that is in me, (1 Peter 3:15) and I give all Glory to God.
Take care and God Bless...
@Quint-ib4nf
Genesis 8:21
Psalm 14:1
Psalm 92:6
Psalm 111:10
Proverbs 18:2
Proverbs 27:22
@Quint-ib4nf
The greatest Man in history, had no servants, yet they called Him master. Had no degree, yet they called Him teacher. He had no medicines, yet they called Him healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus the Christ, (Yeshua Ha Mashiach).
Do you know Him?
We who believe, (Romans 5:1), answer the proclamation, (hearing, Rom 10:17), of the Good News, the Gospel (Rom 10:9), that results in the Spirit of Grace, (Holy Spirit, Rom 8:11), being freely and lovingly given to us by our Great God and (abba, Rom 8:15 ) Father, due to the finished work on the Cross, (John 19:30, Rom 5:17), of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ. (Rom 5:10, Rom 5:11, 2 Cor 5:18, 2 Cor 5:21, Col 1:21, 1 Peter 3:18 and many more).
Now on to more things that pertain to eternal salvation:
John 14:6
Romans 10:9
and do not forget
Ephesians 6:10-18
Please take the last of these Scripture recommendations very seriously as you should with all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16-17), as it is your eternity, (and were you will spend it), that hangs in the balance.
May God Bless you and grant you the discernment we all must possess for the abundant and eternal life to be found only in Him.
Friend if you don't get it after all this I can not help you, only He can.
Mathew 19:26
Then as for me I will be praying for you and no longer playing your silly games.
Mathew 7:6
@@PreacherwithoutaPulpit "My religion's magic book says my religion is true...and my religion is true because it's magic book says so...and the magic book says my religion is true...because the religion says the magic book is true." Nothing could be sillier.
@@njhoepner 66,360+ find out what that number represents and the level of critical scholarship that has been done...
There was no global flood.
It didn’t happen.
saving it not through your works. knowledge makes proud. God saves.
The Bible says the Bible is true so it must true
Check out Chuck Missler, the analysis of the languages, historical realities, latest discoveries in genetics, astrophysics, physics, and the current world situation will leave you with no doubt.
Thank you , Chuck Missler can explain it the best , but some people are too proud to believe no metter what , one day they will all see The Lord ❤.@barrywood7234
And all that believe in the simplicity of the Bible said Amen! Thank you Ken!
Simplicity? Yes, but there's so much more to it...
When it comes to Ken Ham's defence of the Genesis creation and flood stories, I think "simplistic" is the word you meant. Or was it "simpleton" ?
For all of the vultures and dingoes that encamp around this website that provides strong food to the hungry and pure water to the thirsty and where the gospel is unashamedly proclaimed maybe I should have said “ all that believe in the sincere and undiluted word of God say Amen.“ . But simple was just too big a word for some to comprehend. We choose to believe the Bible (Gods Word) from “ In the beginning ( Genesis 1:1 to Rev 22:21. With all sincerity and gravity be filled with Godly sorrow and humble yourselves before God and Jesus and repent (. Be truly sorry of your sins ) and he will save you and come in your heart and give you new life . Amen or So be it !
I think the last word you can use is "simplicity"!
Absolutely correct! God bless you, Mr. Ham! Thank you so much for your leadership...
Ken Ham is a con artist who just wants money
The Ark Encounter and Creation Museum are beautifully done. Really strengthened our understanding of creation and the Great Flood.
@guitarrens4912 dude you people believe if you put a rock in a room for a long enough time it will turn into a human being.
@@wm1958 That's a story that creationists made up to discredit evolution not one single person who understands how evolution works would or has ever made that claim.
@VisshanVis actually it's even worse for you athiest, because in your beliefs you have no rock and no room.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt of a foundation of your beliefs.
You say it's made up but we all went to school and were told we came from some eternal chemical soup.
@@wm1958 That's not a rock sat long enough in a room will turn into a human as you said. and it's still not an atheistic claim.
@@wm1958 The early earth was churning with raw chemicals, and was likely bombarded by asteroids perfectly capable of harboring primitive bacteria. The creation of simple self-replicating molecules within this stew is easier to believe than "Poof!godditit!"
The fact that there are fossils of animals that died in a flood doesn’t mean they all died in the same flood😂
No, just 99% of them.
@@davidwiechecki9205
A. How many plants could survive being underwater for a year?
B. How many herbivores could survive without those plants that would be destroyed?
C. How many predators could survive without the herbivores who would then be starving to death because of the lack of plants?
Thanks!!!😊❤
I first heard a presentation by Ken Ham when his ministry in the Cincinnati metro area was two years old. It was the first time I ever heard someone back up the Bible with science and expose the evidence that evolutionary science hides or purposely misinterprets. That lecture changed my life and allowed me to see a more accurate picture of the Bible. The things I have learned from AIG, other ministries, and science has shown me how accurate the Bible is concerning creation and the Flood. The science behind evolution making the claims that life has been on earth for millions of years is absolutely ludicrous. The science promotiong evolution has more holes than a sieve.
Sadly, I know you will not take a blind bit of notice of what I am about to write. When I am Ill, I consult a doctor. If I wish to learn about Impressionism, I consult an art historian. If I have a raging toothache I see a dentist and if I have difficulty deciphering a medieval manuscript, I seek the help of a palaeographer. Likewise, for any sort of appraisal of the biblical flood story, I turn to the expertise of competent geologists, palaeontologists, archaeologists and biologists. Mr Ham is none of these. In each of these fields, incidentally, there are researchers who are also devout, practising Christians, who would take pleasure in explaining to you in very simple terms why the Genesis creation and flood stories are not remotely credible, whilst at the same time reassuring you that this does not undermine their own Christian faith.
As I have said multiple times elsewhere, please do not overlook the fact that a literal reading of the Old Testament as the true, inerrant word of God leaves you no choice (please take note : you have no choice) but to believe in executing women accused of witchcraft (a direct, unambiguous order from God) and anyone who curses his or her parents (likewise). You must chop women’s hands off as a form of punishment : you must “show them no pity”, God specifically warns you. If God orders you to batter a man to death with stones for collecting firewood on the sabbath day, you must obey without question, just as God’s people did in the book of Numbers. They could have chosen to disobey, but if you wish to believe that you are following God’s word, then you have no such choice.
#1 Evolution is a fact! #2 There is NO science in the bible or that props up all the magical nonsense IN the bible. Give that BS up right now and you'll save yourself years of stress from cognitive dissonance.
@@BruceFox-Lefriche Considering that you claim to consult "experts," you should consult someone with more Biblical knowledge than you. Killing witches and stoning people was written specifically to the nation of Israel. Yes, there were some strict penalties for disobedience in the Torah. There were legitimate reasons for them, which I am not going to get into. I suggest you consult a Rabbi. That is their expertise.
You challenge Ken Ham's and my "expertise" in relation to the Bible and science. Getting a degree is NOT the only way to gain expertise. That is a strong argument liberals use to try to discredit people. They say a person must attend one of "their" accredited institutions to be "qualified." The way ANYONE develops any expertise is by STUDY and "THINKING!" I have a BS in engineering, so I have some expertise with science and analytical thinking. I am going to challenge the LACK of thinking by some of your so-called experts.
If you look a the deposited layers in canyons, like the Grand Canyon or the Wind River Canyon in Wyoming, "geologists" claim each layer required millions of years to develop. Yet, the boundary between each layer is almost a straight line any where you look. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! Wind, rain, and erosion change the terrain. If these layers are millions of years old, why are there no signs of erosion in ANY of the layers? "Geologists" use radiometric dating to determine the age of rocks. They commonly make claims of rocks being millions of years old. Yet, when they use radiometric dating on a flow, such as in Hawaii, that is KNOWN to be 50 years old, radiometric dating says it is millions of years old. They don't make that widely known, do they? One may say they are covering it up.
Biological matter can only survive for about 20,000 years at best. Yet, when they find biological evidence on dinosaur bones, they claim the bones are millions of years old. How does that make sense? Which "expert" is not telling the truth? There are millions of fossil records. If evolution were true, we should be able to identify millions of "transition" species. We should be able to follow the evolution of a leg into a bird wing. Where are the transistion species? There are NONE.
There are many experts in the fields you listed who believe in and scientifically document the science behind creation and the flood. There are many experts, some of them Christians, who believe in evolution, but they have NO ANSWER to the lack of erosion, differences in radiometric dating, the fossil records, or biological matter found on fossils.
@@michaelfraser4396 I shall restrict myself to a few key points. Re-reading my original comment, I see that I was unduly polite. Your reply is as condescending as it is duplicitous ; but I shall try not to be drawn into that game. Where in the Bible does it specify that “this law is for everyone, that law is only for Israelites” ? Or can we just choose for ourselves ? That's certainly very convenient. Why tell ANYONE to murder witches ? Does that make it acceptable, just so long as non-Israelites don’t join in the fun ? Which of course is precisely what happened, as Christian civilizations persecuted, tortured and executed witches up to the end of the 18th century. They were obeying the Bible ; nobody seems to have explained to them that it only applied to Israelites. But then, why did God make such a law at all ?... There is no such thing as witchcraft, so he knew that the tens of thousands of victims would all be innocent women, wrongly accused of a made-up crime. "There were legitimate reasons" you say, although I should consult a Rabbi to know what those "legitimate reasons" are. I shalln't bother. “Legitimate reasons” for atrocities committed in the name of God always disgust me for some reason.
My wording in the sentence concerning the sabbath was perfectly clear. I did not imply that there is a law imposing stoning (the Bible merely orders us to “put to death” Sabbath-defilers). My question was “if God orders you to…?”, as he did in the story of the man collecting sticks. You did not answer, and that is probably just as well.
Where in my comment do you find the word “degree” ? Where do I mention “accredited institutions” ? I don't know why, but the words "straw" and "man" flit briefly through my mind. I simply state that I prefer to consult a dentist for my toothache, rather than a used car salesman who has seen a couple of toothpaste adverts on TH-cam. Which is more-or-less what you show yourself to be with all your waffle about the deposited layers in the Grand Canyon and radiometric dating. You express your disdain for geologists by putting the word in inverted commas. Would you do the same if you required heart surgery ? Would you tell the "cardiologist" that having a degree from an accredited institution does not meet your exacting requirements of “study and thinking” as you put it ?
I at no point claim to have any scientific expertise ; which is why I do not pretend to do so, even though I like to believe that I am also capable of a little “study and thinking”. I recognize in your exposé on geology all the tired old AiG clichés about transitional fossils and radiometric dating. I am not qualified to debate questions about geology or paleontology, so I do not permit myself simply to repeat what Ken Ham and his ilk may have told me about the inadequacies of “experts with degrees from accredited institutions”. You are right that these experts (or "experts" in inverted commas as you contemptuously label them) have no answers to questions about transitional fossils, erosion and biological matter found on fossils… just so long as you continue not to ask them.
@WS-dd8ow I thought the notion of AiG became largely non-viable when early hominids developed their capacity for rational thought.
I don't think there is anything left of the Ark. It was made of wood and that doesn't last for 3500 years. And it is funny that people don't think it was possible to build an Ark but neglect that the Pyramids were being built within 500 years later.
I think it's funny that people believe this fairy tale.
@@mikehawk4714 MOCKERS AND SCOFFERS WILL COME IN THE LAST DAYS. BE WARNED THE TRIBULATION OF GODS WRATH IS NEAR.GET ON THE ARK!
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Prof. Ken Miller
What is the "This" that CANNOT be denied by atheists?
Billions of dead things laid down by water trapped in rock over the entire planet!
Next question.
@@dagwouldAtheists do not deny this. Ken uses the wrong term here. H means Geologists and paleontologists, or even scientists. The huge majority of atheists are not any of these things and have no interest in the topic.
So, to carry on with my comment. SCIENTISTS do not deny this . They just have a better explanation that fits ALL the evidence. Ken Ham's explanation is flawed because it does not fit the evidence.
@@sytonicflux where does the Bible say he didn't?
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You're right, he did say that. I'm just too much of a literalist, I was looking for him to say, "Atheists, when they see... must admit that..."
Also, to make another excuse for myself, if I may, because of all the click-baity stuff going on on youtube, even by people I agree with, I _expect_ misleading stuff.
@@sytonicflux He did. Their is plenty of historical evidence showing dinosaurs co-existing with man. The evolutionists cover it up and bury it, so most people never hear of it. Read the book, After the Flood. he reveals some of the historical evidence of dinosaurs only existing three to four hundred years ago. He shows evidence of a T-rex and farmers wanting to kill flying dinosaurs because they were deadly to their poultry. The lochness monster is a dinosaur. A Japanese fishing boat found a dead dinosaur similar to the Lochness Monster and were hauling it back to land, but they had to cut it loose because the decaying body was making everyone on board sick. There are pictures of the dead body. There is a dinosaur footprint with a man's footprint in the middle of it.
From a practical standpoint I just don't see how all those animals could have fit on a ship that size. All the animals of the world, their feed(meat for some, bamboo for others, fish for others, grasshoppers for others, hay, some animals will only eat live food, etc), manure disposal, different climate needs, etc was all possible on the ark. Also with so few people to manage it all? I don't see how it's possible. Just the number of species alone would not fit on the ark. Not even close. How do believers get past these issues??
If you visit the Ark Encounter, you will see it was very possible.
@@PatTheChurchGirl LOL!
Your questions have been answered so many times. Apparently, you are one of those types who needs to be spoon fed. Pay attention. No where in any work of literature is it stated that ALL the animals were brought on board the ark. ALL the animals of the world were not on the ark. Only a pair of representative kinds that could not have survived the year-long flood were brought onto the ark. According to some very smart people who have looked into the numbers, only several thousand animals at most were on the ark. This number of animals could certainly have been adequately cared for by eight healthy adults. You are incorrectly assuming that diets then were identical to what they are today. According to the biblical text, people and animals lived entirely on a pant based diet at the time. Yes, even lions can live just fine for a long time on a plant based diet. There is at least one modern day example of this. You are wrongly assuming that some animals "required" special diets. Obviously they didn't since all the animals on the ark survived. Obviously, the dietary changes that have taken place in the post-flood animal kingdom has come about by a gradual instinctual adaptation to available food sources as animals migrated from the ark and finally settled into their specific environments. According to the biblical text, animal meat was added to the menu options after the flood ended. There is not a single word mentioned about how Noah and his family handled matters onboard the ark. We can only speculate. What they did obviously worked, since all the animals that boarded the ark, disembarked from the ark alive and well. It would certainly be fascinating to know the details about what happened on board the ark after the door of the ark was shut, but we don't. Obviously then, we can only conclude that these details of the flood event are not necessary to get across the point of recording it in the first pace. You are missing the big picture by getting hung up on details that are not important. The biblical flood is recorded to let readers know with profound clarity, our Creator's attitude toward the wicked. We learn that our Creator will pour His divine wrath out upon everyone who has corrupted his perfect creation by choosing the side of wickedness. This applies to everyone. This applies to you. You are just as wicked as those whose lives our Creator ended 4650 during the global flood. Just like all those souls, you too deserve the wrath of our Creator to fall upon you. But, our Creator is giving us/you time to believe Him, just like He gave the people that died during the biblical flood. Our Creator wanted to save them but they refused His offer. All they had to do was believe Him to be saved. Only eight people were smart enough to do so. All we have to do is believe our Creator, the Lord Jesus Christ and we will be saved from His divine wrath being poured out against the wicked, as well. It will not be a global flood next time though. It will be more personal for us. You will meet the Lord Jesus Christ one day face-to-face and if you have not believed the Lord Jesus Christ before that time, He will throw you into a Lake of Fire where you will be left alone to suffer unimaginable torment forevermore. This action is not because the Lord Jesus Christ is cruel or vengeful, but only because He is absolutely just and you are absolutely guilty of corrupting His creation by choosing the side of wickedness and you absolutely deserve the punishment you are going to experience. So, instead of concerning yourself with how Noah removed animal manure from the ark, open the Bible and concern yourself with figuring out what the Lord Jesus Christ, wants you to know about Him and your need to be saved from the penalty of your sins before it is too late.
@@skm-2024-Keith I think you have just revealed the answer as to where all the manure went.
@@PatTheChurchGirl The Ark encounter proves that you can fit a certain number of plastic animals into a large box, propped up with concrete and pillars, hundreds of miles from any ocean. Or perhaps I am being unfair... They could be fibreglass animals.
It sure is odd that there’s a disproportionate number of fossils laid down by water and not land, I wonder why? Is it because of a giant global flood that covered literally everywhere? Or could it be that water areas are just better at fossilizing than land?
@@Woopor no, it's not because of a global flood 🥴
Amen Ken! AiG is a great and much needed ministry for our day.
Ken Ham is a big liar about the holy angels being created along with humans in the 7 day week! WTH? Even as a brand new Christian i never believed that crap! The reason Genesis does not go into detail about Lucifer and 1/3 angels turning on God in heaven is because Genesis is written for mankind not the angels. Lucifer turned bad in heaven way before humans were created. Bible says Satan was kicked out of heaven and brought down to earth. Later Adam and Eve were created, then later Satan tempted Eve.... Ken is a liar and is wrong here!!!
The gift of the rainbow itself is a problem. This statement in the Bible would imply that light would have been fundamentally different before the flood.
before the flood there was no rain !
@@akkafietje137 says who?
@@waterboy330 Who cares as long you don't believe the bible (Gen 2:5)
@@akkafietje137 i don’t believe in a literal translation. Even still, it would seem this is verse is a direct contradiction against Genesis 1:11
@@akkafietje137 this is all still beside the point too. Rain has to have existed before the time of the ark. The possibility of a rainbow still must have had to exist with or without rain. You can generate a rainbow without water at all. If the rainbow did not exist until after, then light would have to be fundamentally different before the flood.
Even worse than all of this, if rain did not exist as you say the Bible says before the time of the ark, then physics would have to of necessity be fundamentally and incomprehensibly different before the time of the Ark.
Ken, mate, you are spot on about those who refuse to accept God. However, when they see Jesus coming, they shall regret it and some who are not marked, even if they be far and few between shall repent and pray and love instead of hate Him.
But you are 100% spot on, the deed has been done and many shall simply refuse to accept Jesus.
I am praying for you, your faithfulness is definitely a great example of the difference between having faith vs having faith and being faithful.
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God bless.
@@rstevewarmorycom Where is your evidence? Is it in your head along with your narcissistic trolling self indulgences?
Lunatic!
If you make the existence claim of your particular god, it is up to you to provide falsifiable evidence in support of that claim.
@@philhart4849 Ken and the crew of accredited professionals are doing that just fine.
Likewise, anyone claiming any different interpretations of what we observe need to back their claims with evidence from all the different fields of knowledge and historical records. So far, the inconsistencies and outright contradictions among those denying Creation seems to be an utter discord of opinions and theories of which all are dependent on theories which rely upon even further theories and all of which debunk aspects of each other.
General Patton (RIP) was asked by a German POW "How the heck did we lose to you guys?" after seeing how buggered up the Yanks were. General Patton replied "We were/are less F'd up than your mob, that's why we won'..
If Patton were to have been a scientist supporting Creation, he would have said the exact same thing to the fool asking him the question!
@@HillSummitHomestead "Ken and the crew of accredited professionals are doing that just fine." Your logical fallacies are legion. Thanks for the laughter. 😀
Interesting that he says that the biblical story is the original, yet the Sumerian account of Gilgamesh is about 1000 years (or more) older than the text that Genesis quotes. Just sayin'...
That is not factual.
I believe everything Ken Ham says...💯✝️
Why?
@@elilane8627 He knows his heart, not like you
I don't believe everything that anyone says.
@@chimmy___ your problem
@@YECBIB Why should we think "his heart" is accurate? You realize the heart isn't where thought happens, right?
So, whatever You believe, is the truth to You, So...
Yea but how can you explain to an atheist about biblical accounts when he/she doesn’t believe in the Bible? It’s hard to use the scriptures as my resource when they don’t believe the Bible
Don't worry about that. Just give them the gospel and let God do the changing.
Hey! I see what your saying. Just remember that you can stand on a hill while defending the hill that your standing on. If someone didn't believe in air, would you hold your breath? It's okay and even necessary to use the scriptures to show someone that God's word is truth even if they don't believe it. Hope this helps.
As an unbeliever, I can tell you that clever argument simply invites clever refutation whichever side of the divide you inhabit. Neither gets you anywhere. If you want to know the truth of that statement, simply read the polarised comments in this thread. Perhaps a better place to start is to understand how much you share in common with the person you are conversing with. You have, after all, spent both your lives coming to your individual understanding of the world. Be interested in what they have to say and the insights they have to give. If you do so I think you will have much more engaging and fruitful discussions whatever the topic.
@@jimdrummer816 God does something? That would be a first. Rather, it's people making a decision to make a lifestyle change, join the Christian club so to speak. That can be very beneficial but it certainly seems that there is no God doing anything about anything, that is an observable fact.
@@arc001 No. Actually, it's a fact that your heart wouldn't beat without Him.
Great stuff as always!
Here's my question about God's Flood, if it really happened: What did that event actually accomplish? It did not stop evil As, ironically, the one who committed the first evil , according to Genesis, was Noah himself. Cursing his grandson into slavery for no reason at all. And he was God's chosen? So all the Flood did was kill everything accept a select family and select animals. Something to think about
I'll try to answer your question. First of all, there is a tipping point beyond which humanity cannot come back as far as evil is concerned. The entire world was so corrupt before the flood that it could only yield bad seed. In Noah's time, it was very close to that tipping point. God set up a test, 120 years, Noah preached of a flood to see who would believe God and who would not believe God. Who was going to believe his message? Those who did not get on the Ark, were destroyed and the human race was given a second chance through the genes of Noah's family. We are now approaching yet another critical tipping point and just like in Noah's day, God will give the world another test to see who serves God and who serves man. The test was simple but effective. Get on the ark and live or don't get on the ark and die.
As for Ham, we're not sure what Ham did to his father while he lay drunk and naked but it was inappropriate for him to mock his father to brothers instead of being respectful and doing like his brothers did. The curse wasn't from Noah. Noah was a prophet. He was relaying God's curse to Ham, the father of Canaan. The Canaanites were known for their debauched and perverted sexual practices. Honoring your father and mother is one of the big Ten. Ham broke that commandment.
@@danielcristancho3524 Wrong Noah was not a prophet. It was his fault for exposing his shame for all to see. Maybe Ham wasn't sure what to do so he tells his brothers. No mention or indication of malice or disrespect from Ham. But instead of punishing Ham, Noah put the curse on his grandson, who was innocent in this. The evil is on Noah for bringing conflict, resentment, and division in his own family. Nobody should be cursed into slavery. By this act of dishonor, Noah throws away any good reputation he had.
@@jstube36 That's noahs fault, not Gods. Just because the bible records evil deeds of people and events, that dosen't mean that it endorses it. The people in the earth was so wicked, that God had to wipe them out. I'd say that if He didn't, which He had every right to do by the way, then the world we live in right now would be very diffirent. Jesus came through the line of people in Isreal, God's chosen people. Well, they might not of been God's chosen people for very long if God didn't wipe out with a flood all those especially wicked people that might of convinced the isrealites to practice their evil deeds. How much harder it would have been for Isreal to follow God if the flood didn't happen.
The flood also serves as an example to us later generations as to how seriously God takes sin and evil. He's not going to let it go unpunished. Hope that makes sense.
@@II_Timothy My question about the Flood, as told in Genesis, was about the purpose of it. Wickedness was punished but not wiped out entirely. By evidence of what Noah did. Putting the entire purpose of the Flood either in vain or at least highly questionable. And did God punish Noah for cursing his innocent grandson? Did he punish Jacob, a most despicable character, for selling out his own daughter? So apparently not all evil went unpunished. Or maybe God gives a pass to his "Chosen". And that was just Genesis.
Psalms 120:7
I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
John 14:27 (KJV)
I can.
The timing of the Flood is the problem. In 2350 BC the Giza pyramids were already standing for 200 years. The evidence through Egypt for a flood at the turn of the 5th and 6th Dynasties is there for objective researchers everywhere. There is also a vessel from before the Flood, which was buried near the Great Pyramid (one of two in fact). It was built BEFORE Noah’s Ark as a funerary boat for Pharaoh Khufu. It is on display today. Simply put, the ‘world’ of Noah and the patriarchs who lived at that time was limited. They described the local scene. The flood is now known from the scientific evidence to have been global flooding, but did not cover the entire earth to depth. It was massive flooding, but in a way we would understand it, with typhoons in Asia and tornadoes in the West.
Thank you Ken Ham.
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But Noah’s ark has indeed be found, as you say, in the Mountains of Ararat, currently in Turkey.
No it hasn’t
@@RealHooksy Of course it has. Are you blind? All it takes is a simple online search for Noah’s ark and Ron Wyatt and you’ll find all the evidence and studies that have been done at the site since then, including most recently with ground-penetrating radar. The evidence is undeniable. You could even travel to Turkey and see with your own eyes; it’s easy to find! The find made it so obvious that Turkey even named it Noah’s Ark National Park. However, we know that there are those who can be slapped in the face with the truth and yet they will still deny the truth
@@RealHooksy yes it has. Only a blind person would say what you did
@@svoncampe I’m not blind
@@RealHooksy well then don’t say it doesn’t exist when it clearly has been found
Thx Ken. Amazing how many people choose to misunderstand the Bible.
@guitarrens4912 you ok?
God's word confronts us with our sin, we try to hide from the truth of our wickedness.
@cervboy How do you explain Jesus? Was he also fooled by "ancient mythology "?
@@patmacd330 one day this will become clear to you.
You know what's really amazing? This bible has provided a comfortable living for millions upon millions of people with doctorate-level educations for the sole purpose of explaining what it means to the masses...and even they disagree with each other constantly...as do all the people that follow them...to the point that christians have merrily argued, fought, and killed each other over it from the beginning of this religion until right now today. And yet we're supposed to believe that it's direct communication of a magical all-knowing superbeing who desperately, desperately wants to be clearly understood by everyone. It's completely laughable, except for the oceans of bloodshed christians have committed over it.
I really don’t find the Noah story that relevant overall to the Christian story. I don’t really understand why one would need to take it literally for Christianity to be true?
Any geologist can certify that the geological record with its strata cannot be interpreted as the result of one flood. This is just bending the evidence to a preconceived idea.
Note also that for example the layers with dinosaurs in them (the Jurassic and Chalk formations) give way to strata no longer containing these animals. Please do not tell us that the heavy dinosaurs were sinking to lower strata of deluvial mud. The same layering applies to small juvenile dinosaurs and eggs.
Also, rain comes from the sea and earth's surface and is not ultimately a source of rising sea levels. It's a cycle.
The story of Noah is just a story!
You should read "The Genesis Flood" by Dr. Henry Morris. Everything you said is factually, scientifically, and biblically incorrect.
@@crunchyhippo8957 Oh well, this appears to be mainly the type of bending the evidence that I meant to preempt already. The layering is attributed to different strength and size of the individual animals. This book was classified as pseudoscience already at the time of its publication and has cultural relevance only for the development of the evangelical churches in the USA.
“Biblically incorrect” is a hilarious category. Have you recently read Genesis 1? They are actually putting the creation of plants before the creation of the sun! In addition, bats and whales were created on Thursday, but other mammals on Friday. Also, the sun and the stars are just “lights” in the sky meant to illuminate the Earth. It’s unfair to point out the nonsense as the authors had no way of knowing at the time, but it’s strange to see this as relevant now.
@@erikt1713 As I said earlier, only a regenerate heart will believe the Bible and the life-giving message within it, however, I think it requires far more faith to believe in the religion of evolution. Even as an unregenerate, I could never believe that the Earth and all that we see and experience happened by chance and that there isn’t any purpose to any of it and that it is all random. Take for example the human eye, or even one single cell and consider how complex are the functions of these. Man cannot make anything that even comes close to an eye, heart, lung, brain, etc. There is so much beauty to behold on this planet, and yet, there are many scars and evidence of a catastrophic event. Maybe, just maybe, this world WAS CREATED by a being far more intelligent/advanced than the inhabitants HE put here who HE claims are made in HIS image. As a human, I can make many things like a soup and I can even grow many of my ingredients, but I can’t make a seed. It was already here. Humans can build a house or a camera or a computer but no human can build a tree or an eye or a brain, all of which are far more complex than the aforementioned things. Humans always try to copy what they see in nature that already exists. Humans are really smart and have made some amazing things, but never has a human made anything as complex as whatever or ,in my opinion, Whoever made nature. A Creator who made us and loves us and has an eternal purpose for us makes far more sense to me and is far more logical to me than randomness and explosions causing the Earth and everything else to form. Only the creationists viewpoint satisfies the question of origins for me. To create is to make something from nothing. God brought the raw materials into existence. Now, can I explain God? No, I cannot. He simply was, is, and always will be and therefore deserves our respect and our worship. He is also loving and wants a relationship with those He created. This Earth is cursed at the moment and under judgement due to sin, but one day will be made new. This God who made us also became a man himself and dwelt among us and lived a sinless life and died and rose from the dead showing us His power over death. If we believe in our hearts that Jesus is the Son of God and confess with our mouths that God has raised Him from the dead, we shall be saved. We will live in a new heaven and a new earth. We will obtain new bodies that aren’t affected by disease or death. This is good news! I hope you will believe it.
@@debrathomas2704 Thanks for the long reply. I met Christians earlier in my life, and it always puzzles me how they can believe in an invisible God who is clearly fine with human suffering, including of children, and never intervenes or does anything even in war, famine or natural disasters ("acts of God" in legal language).
As a child, Iiked looking for fossils in an old quarry and I learned the names of dinosaurs. I like learning about animals, for example the wondrous evolution of the whale or the strange lifecycles of some parasites.
I would never trade the beauty of understanding for a childish story like Genesis 1. They are creating the plants before the sun has been created, can you believe it? (I cannot).
A man as a god is utter nonsense and blasphemy even in Judaism and Islam.
@@erikt1713 I always find it amusing how religious people argue in favour of evidence when it suits them, but dismiss evidence when it doesn't.
I'm so glad God promised to never drown and kill millions of babies ever ever again. Gives me hope for the future!!
So was it in the days of Noah.
You can see it in these replies! His coming may well be soon!
Ham intentionally ignores the extensive disproofs of the flood of Noah to feed the gullible and those entrenched in the need to believe. Chemistry, oceanography, dendrology, genetics, speleology, ice core sampling, and millennia old continuous cultures all show Ham to be just one more of the many apologist shysters.
That is mental logic. "I can travel in time and singularly won a war in the iron age while defeating 10,000 men". Researchers have proved there was a war fought in the iron age.
Therefore, fact, I time travelled and won that war.
Was the biblical account of the flood the greatest act of genocide of all time?
Relative to the total population of the (supposed) period, undoubtedly. For a god who could (also supposedly) create everything without so much as clicking his fingers, it was also an extremely cumbersome - and above all supremely cruel - method of exterminating everything and eveyone.
You would rather have people whose only thoughts were evil all the time running the planet and indoctrinating their children with their attitude for all time?
God removed the corrupt and evil people. He was disappointed in His creation so much that He started over. Guess what? We are doing it again now; the evil corrupt people are being taken down. Because if they aren't they will corrupt the world further. Which side are you on?
@@BruceFox-Lefriche If you're going to assume what happened in the Bible is true you should also assume the why it happened is also true. The people that died were not nice people. Just like many barbaric cultures that have existed more recently like Native American ones. Aztecs, Mayans and many others sacrificed children. What happened in the ancient cultures that god punished is supposedly even worse.
@iriemon1796 probably if you don't even have a basic understanding of what genocide is and why the flood happened in the first place.
Technically we are all on death row anyway according to the Bible.
Nice story but the flood story goes back thousands of years before Noah was born. The Sumerians wrote about it. One of their Hero’s was called Gilgamesh. He searched for the person that created the the ‘Ark’ He was called Utnapishtim, in one era, and Ziusudra in another Atra Hasis in yet another all going back long before anyone thought to write the Bible. Which is a collection of old stories told and retold over generations. Look what happens to Chinese Whispers in just one day. Imagine then what happens to a story retold for 6,000 years,
Perhaps the book called “The 12th Planet” by Zechariah Sitchin should be perused. Not that people deeply indoctrinated in The Bible would be inclined to believe a word of it.
Wrong. The true record of the Genesis Flood--given by inspiration of God to Moses, the author of the first five books of the Bible, including Genesis, from the time of creation to the world-wide flood of Noah--is supported not only by God’s providence in preserving His inspired, infallible Word over the centuries until it was finally compiled, edited, and written down by Moses, as evidenced by the accuracy and credibility of its details, but also by the One-Source Theory that leads back to the historical event of the Flood and Noah’s Ark, by the fact that the Hebrews were well known for handing down their records and tradition, and also the fact that the Book of Genesis is viewed for the most part as an historical work, even by many liberal scholars, while the Epic of Gilgamesh is viewed as mythological. On the other hand, it is quite inconceivable that the details of the Epic of Gilgamesh, as well as those of this subsequent Babylonian tablet, could be handed down for hundreds of thousands of years (Gilgamesh cuneiform tablets date as far back as 4,000 years), to be fully incorporated in the Gilgamesh Epic of the Babylonians or even later Babylonian clay tablet without being corrupted.
It makes more sense that Genesis is actually older--that it was the original and the pagan myths arose as distortions of that original account. While Moses lived long after the event, he probably acted as the editor of far older sources. For example, Genesis 10:19 gives matter-of-fact directions, ‘as you go toward Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboiim’. These were the cities of the plain God destroyed for their extreme wickedness 500 years before Moses. Yet Genesis gives directions at a time when they were well-known landmarks, not buried under the Dead Sea.
It is common to make legends out of historical events, but not history from legends. The liberals commonly assert that monotheism is a late evolutionary religious development. The Bible teaches that mankind was originally monotheistic. Archaeological evidence suggests the same, indicating that only later did mankind degenerate into idolatrous pantheism. Stories of a gigantic global flood that nearly destroyed all humanity are found all over the globe (over 200 non-biblical historical accounts from tribes and nations around the world. The most detailed accounts come, as we would expect, from countries nearest to Ararat, where the Ark landed (Genesis 8:4). Other versions turn up in Persia (modern Iraq and Iran) , India, Burma, Indonesia, Sarawak, New Guina, Tahiti, Hawaii, China, Japan, Siberia, Australia (among the aborigines), and New Zealand (Maoris), Alaska (Eskimos), North America (Red Indians), South America, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Congo, South Africa, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Finland, Lapland, Wales and Ireland. This agrees with Genesis 9:19: “These are the three sons of Noah, and, and of them was the whole earth overspread” ( or the populated). Of course, now the Bible has come to all these countries , but the “legends” were independent of the Bible, passed down over centuries in scores of tribal languages , and understandably corrupted and distorted in details of the original biblical account. Some details are very interesting. For example, Lxtlilxochitl , the native historian of the Aztecs, says that the world lasted 1716 days before it was destroyed by a flood (This figure is only 60 years different from the 1656 years which the Bible gives us by addition of the ages in Genesis 5--taking into consideration the overlapping of each subsequent generation by birth. The Chinese character (symbol) for a large ship is a combination of a figure 8 and the symbols for “mouths” or “persons” (recall Noah +Shem + Japheth + their wives = 8 “persons” aboard the Ark ). The Hottentots of South Africa believed they are descended from “Noh” , and the Hawaiians report a flood which only “Nu-u and his family were saved. I could mention many more that give details that parallel the biblical account, though clearly distorted and corrupted over generations of time.
Liberals often claim that the Gilgamesh epic was embellished from a severe river flood, i.e. a local flood. This might work if there were similar flood legends only around the ancient near east. But there are thousands of such flood legends all around the world. Even the Australian Aborigines have legends of a massive flood, as do people living in the deep jungles near the Amazon River in South America. Dr Alexandra Aikhenvald, a world expert on the languages of that region, said: ‘… without their language and its structure, people are rootless. In recording it you are also getting down the stories and folklore. If those are lost a huge part of a people’s history goes. These stories often have a common root that speaks of a real event, not just a myth. For example, every Amazonian society ever studied has a legend about a great flood".
This makes perfect sense if there were a real global Flood as Genesis teaches, and all people groups came from survivors who kept memories of this cataclysm.
Wrong. The true record of the Genesis Flood--given by inspiration of God to Moses, the author of the first five books of the Bible, including Genesis, from the time of creation to the world-wide flood of Noah--is supported not only by God’s providence in preserving His inspired, infallible Word over the centuries until it was finally compiled, edited, and written down by Moses, as evidenced by the accuracy and credibility of its details, but also by the One-Source Theory that leads back to the historical event of the Flood and Noah’s Ark, by the fact that the Hebrews were well known for handing down their records and tradition, and also the fact that the Book of Genesis is viewed for the most part as an historical work, even by many liberal scholars, while the Epic of Gilgamesh is viewed as mythological. On the other hand, it is quite inconceivable that the details of the Epic of Gilgamesh, as well as those of this subsequent Babylonian tablet, could be handed down for hundreds of thousands of years (Gilgamesh cuneiform tablets date as far back as 4,000 years), to be fully incorporated in the Gilgamesh Epic of the Babylonians or even later Babylonian clay tablet without being corrupted.
It makes more sense that Genesis is actually older--that it was the original and the pagan myths arose as distortions of that original account. While Moses lived long after the event, he probably acted as the editor of far older sources. For example, Genesis 10:19 gives matter-of-fact directions, ‘as you go toward Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboiim’. These were the cities of the plain God destroyed for their extreme wickedness 500 years before Moses. Yet Genesis gives directions at a time when they were well-known landmarks, not buried under the Dead Sea.
It is common to make legends out of historical events, but not history from legends. The liberals commonly assert that monotheism is a late evolutionary religious development. The Bible teaches that mankind was originally monotheistic. Archaeological evidence suggests the same, indicating that only later did mankind degenerate into idolatrous pantheism. Stories of a gigantic global flood that nearly destroyed all humanity are found all over the globe (over 200 non-biblical historical accounts from tribes and nations around the world. The most detailed accounts come, as we would expect, from countries nearest to Ararat, where the Ark landed (Genesis 8:4). Other versions turn up in Persia (modern Iraq and Iran) , India, Burma, Indonesia, Sarawak, New Guina, Tahiti, Hawaii, China, Japan, Siberia, Australia (among the aborigines), and New Zealand (Maoris), Alaska (Eskimos), North America (Red Indians), South America, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Congo, South Africa, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Finland, Lapland, Wales and Ireland. This agrees with Genesis 9:19: “These are the three sons of Noah, and, and of them was the whole earth overspread” ( or the populated). Of course, now the Bible has come to all these countries , but the “legends” were independent of the Bible, passed down over centuries in scores of tribal languages , and understandably corrupted and distorted in details of the original biblical account. Some details are very interesting. For example, Lxtlilxochitl , the native historian of the Aztecs, says that the world lasted 1716 days before it was destroyed by a flood (This figure is only 60 years different from the 1656 years which the Bible gives us by addition of the ages in Genesis 5--taking into consideration the overlapping of each subsequent generation by birth. The Chinese character (symbol) for a large ship is a combination of a figure 8 and the symbols for “mouths” or “persons” (recall Noah +Shem + Japheth + their wives = 8 “persons” aboard the Ark ). The Hottentots of South Africa believed they are descended from “Noh” , and the Hawaiians report a flood which only “Nu-u and his family were saved. I could mention many more that give details that parallel the biblical account, though clearly distorted and corrupted over generations of time.
Liberals often claim that the Gilgamesh epic was embellished from a severe river flood, i.e. a local flood. This might work if there were similar flood legends only around the ancient near east. But there are thousands of such flood legends all around the world. Even the Australian Aborigines have legends of a massive flood, as do people living in the deep jungles near the Amazon River in South America. Dr Alexandra Aikhenvald, a world expert on the languages of that region, said: ‘… without their language and its structure, people are rootless. In recording it you are also getting down the stories and folklore. If those are lost a huge part of a people’s history goes. These stories often have a common root that speaks of a real event, not just a myth. For example, every Amazonian society ever studied has a legend about a great flood".
This makes perfect sense only if there were a real global Flood as Genesis teaches, and all people groups came from survivors who kept memories of this catastrophic event.
Do you know when Noah was born? Remember they measured time differently back then; they did not have the Gregorian calendar we use today. We also don't know when the stories in Genesis were first written down. As you implied, they were first oral accounts passed down through the generations. But the main idea of the story is preserved - God's love for His creation and His choice to give them another chance because of that love.
@@RobinPM86 “love for his creation” which is of course why he committed genocide on millions of people and literal quintillions of animals because the humans specifically weren’t worshipping him
Prayer for me In Jesus name
How do fossilized animal tracks and footprints happen to exist between the rock layers if the flood was a single and quick catastrophic event? There should be no signs of animal activity within the strata, just their corpses, if the sediment was deposited underwater by a flash flood.
An animal moving through stiff clay / mud would leave tracks behind while a swell of water carrying sediment would deposit it into the depression left by the print. Water would back wash over again as the chaotic movements of the water proceeded over the face of the earth. In this way tracks can be preserved.
@@Gamaliel7 But how do animals make tracks swimming?
@@itsJPhere You realize that the flood progressed. That the people and animals were not INSTANTLY under water. As it began to rain, and the fountains were broken up mass panic would have occurred with these running from the lowland to the higher elevations to seek shelter from the rising waters.
@@Gamaliel7 You're telling a story, not giving evidence.
@@itsJPhere Your problem is with the your understanding of flood processes, and I'm giving you a plausible explanation.
Your original question showed that you do not understand how the flood worked. It was not an instant rise in water levels in all places.
So because it was not an instant rise of water levels in all places it would be reasonable to assume that populations and animals would flee those areas and move to higher ground.
If you believe that God created earth topography as a giant plane, then again you are misunderstanding the pre flood world.
You are the one with presupposition, a story, without evidence.
Thank you Dr Ham 🥇
Notice, by way of comparison to the Genesis account of Noah’s flood, that lines 29 and 30 of the Gilgamesh Epic state about the Gilgamesh boat: “her dimensions all shall be equal: her length and breath (width) shall be the same”. Now line 57 tells us her height was ten rods (“ten rods the height of her sides”) and line 58 that the length of her sides was also ten rods, and if her length and breath (width) were the same, that means the ship was 10 rods long x 10 rods wide x 10 rods high (“her dimensions all shall be equal,” line 29). This vessel would not have been very stable according to modern shipbuilders. It would have looked like a square box 165 ft long by 165 ft wide by 165 ft high ( 1 rod = 16 ½ feet).
Now, compare this to the dimensions of Noah’s Ark. ”And this is how you shall make it: Genesis 6:15: “ The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits.” Shipbuilders have calculated that the dimensions of Noah’s Ark-300 cubits x 50 cubits x 30 cubits = 450 feet long x 75 feet wide x 45 feet high-would give a ratio of 6:1 which, with a rectangular barge or box-like shape and a very low center of gravity, would produce an extremely stable ship-so stable in fact that when they did experiments using a scaled-down prototype of the ark in a water tank (Laboratory) producing assimilated ocean waves, they found that the ark could upright itself from a 90 degree tilt. In other words, it was a rectangular barge shape 450 feet by 75 feet by 45 feet wide with a Catwalk on top. They concluded that a ship the size of Noah’s Ark built to the biblical specifications could easily have stayed afloat in 150-foot waves, much larger than average oceanic waves today . They estimated that the extra weight of all the animals, which would have put the ship lower in the water, would have made it even more stable. The U. S. battleship Oregon was built around the turn of the century using the same ratio (6:1) in construction as that of Noah’s Ark. There are many other significant differences between the two accounts.
As for the 2014 film, Noah, directed by Darren Aronofsky and starring Russell Crowe; that is nothing but a mockery of the biblical account of Noah and the Flood, which was anything but a pile of crude logs bound together that would not have been seaworthy in waves in the Atlantic (some over 75 feet), much less typical Hollywood. If you want to focus on major discrepancies , how about comparing the far more credible and believable details of the Genesis Flood of Noah with the Babylonian Gilgamesh Epic. I did this research one week at the public Library and here are some of my findings:
Noah’s Flood (Genesis 8: 7-11):Notice that the ship in the Gilgamesh Epic had 6 decks (line 60) whereas the ark in Genesis had 3 decks. Also, the flood in the Gilgamesh Epic lasted one week only (lines 127-130)-hardly sufficient to bring about a global catastrophic flood , as evidenced by the worldwide distribution of billions of fossils of all life-forms. The Genesis Flood, on the other hand, lasted 150 days (including the 40-days and 40-nights of rain) before the flood waters abated or receded. Finally, the Genesis account tells us that a dove brought a freshly plucked olive tree to Noah-tangible evidence that the flood waters had receded from the earth-whereas the Gilgamesh Epic tells us that the raven, which saw the waters receding and found food, did not return to the ship (line 156). How then did Uta-napishti know for sure that the flood waters had actually receded? He could only have assumed because the raven did not return that it saw the flood waters receding and found food, but he could not have known for certain, as did Noah, without some tangible evidence.
Some skeptics and liberal theologians would have us believe that the Jews who wrote the Bible actually borrowed myths of Babylonian origin concerning the Genesis Flood from the Gilgamesh Epic (and others) to include with their own writings. However, the big problem with this assumption, as we have observed in our comparison of the details of the Epic of Gilgamesh with the Genesis Flood, is that the latter is far more reasonable and believable than the former. The details of the Gilgamesh Epic, which merely reflects the true record of the Bible, are the ones that have become corrupted and distorted, due to the limitations of human fallibility.
Obviously stories handed down generation after generation that are not carefully preserved-particularly if they are handed down by word of mouth-do not improve with age. The truth is lost and the stories degenerate markedly. On the other hand, the biblical records have been handed down in written form (though there was a slight period of oral transmission in its early history), carefully preserved by the superintendency of God and have not been corrupted.
Assuming our ancient past was very primitive and over a long period of time, we must ask ourselves how certain details of the story of the Great Flood or Deluge (we looked at same) could have been handed down from one primitive stone-aged culture to another purely by oral tradition, for hundreds of thousands of years, to be fully incorporated into the Gilgamesh Epic of the Babylonians. That such a thing could have happened for several thousand years is remotely conceivable. That it could have happened over a hundred thousand years is quite inconceivable. “The Gilgamesh Epic alone, rightly considered, administers a fatal blow to the concept of a vast antiquity for Noah” (quote by Dr. John C. Whitcomb in The Early Earth).
Conclusion: The Epic of Gilgamesh is a distorted and corrupted reflection of divine revelation-the true record of the Genesis Flood
#1: Wrong, there is no evidence of a global flood -- more accurately, there exist mountains of evidence contrary to the possibility/actuality of a global flood happening... EVER! #2: There is ample evidence of LOCAL floods worldwide, at vastly different times, not to mention repeated stories because floods are cyclic by nature. #3: It isn't only "some skeptics and liberal theologians" who advocate for plagiarism committed by those at the Council of Nicaea... it's the consensus among unbiased 1st century Historians (ref. Richard Carrier, et al.)
You're not remotely credible -- you've clearly been brainwashed into believing in conspiracy theories instead of understanding how to analyze actual evidence.
Exactly. I was going to say the same thing about the "epic of Gilgamesh"; a fictional contrivance of later peoples who deviated from the Biblical account as did hundreds of other civilizations. But even though their stories are fanciful and unscientific; the very presence of legends of the earthwide flood is cause for examination of a great disaster that affected all descendants of Noah's family down thru the subsequent centuries. Thanks for lending that insight!
Ken, I'm always inspired by your teachings. My family and I have visited both the Ark, and the Creation Museum. What an amazing ministry!!
You simply visited Ken Sham’s Religious Fantasy Sideshow and got injected with the kool aid of stupidity
I am an atheist and I do deny it.
I'm a Christian and so do I.
@@joshuakohlmann9731 How come?
@@johnsmit5999 Because (a) there's no evidence for it, (b) it's impossible on many levels, and (c) not all Christians take every single story in the Bible literally. The Bible itself says that parts of it are allegory.
The history part isn't allegory though. You must study the difference in a good commentary and not guess.
Three seconds after you die, you will not be an atheist. But it will be too late. Why don't you care about your own soul, my friend? It's really all you've got. Its what is looking out of your eyes, reading this post. It lives in your body. When your body dies, your soul departs and lives on. Make sure you return to the God who gave it, and not be cast away from Him into the place where the God haters choose to go. You have to choose where you spend eternity. The devil wants you. God wants you. Choose God.!!!
You can find fossilized sea creatures in the middle of south dakota
There are also fossilized marine organisms on top of Mt. Everest, showing it was also once underwater, though before God "lifted up" the mountains to their current height (Psa. 104:8).
@@crunchyhippo8957 Plate tectonics, 'cuz the Core of the Earth burns and churns~
If all those animals that became fossils had died in that single event that would not fit with the layers we find their fossils in. There are a couple of reasons for this.
1) While hydraulic sorting would keep it somewhat in an order it would not be 100% consistent.
2) Hydraulic sorting would be based on the density of the dead critters and objects. So we would find human tools mixed in with dinosaus for example, but we don't. Also, to get those layers you need sediment deposition, then a period where that layer hardens. Then another layer of sediment accumulates, then it hardens, and so on. Thousands of such layers. That's not happening in a chaostic global flood in one single year.
3) Hydraulic sorting would not produce the consistent dating we get through radiometric dating. You can rail against radiometric dating's accuracy all you like, but it is consistent. The fossils and the material we find them in dates consistently to over 64million years ago in the case of diinosaurs. Every T-Rex, for example, is at least older than that. Same for all the other animals, they fall into very well defined date ranges. Hydraulic sorting doesn't care about age, just density.
Also, for what it's worth.... The Bible is not the evidence for anything. It is the claim. The evidence to support those claims needs to be found elsewhere. This might be via archaeology, or geology, or biology, but all of those refute this flood story.
Last thing... The Epic of Gilgamesh was the forerunner of the Genesis Flood story. This is blatantly obvious. The early writers of the genesis version would have known about that story as it predated them by hundreds of years if not longer. It was part of Sumerian culture. It was not simply 'yet another flood story', it was the multigod version of this new monogod verison.
Wow no. All of that's debunked. Read up at their site, and CMI, etc.
First of all, Gilgamesh cube ark is obviously unstable. It's "blatantly obvious" that it's the later distortion. Noah's ark has ideal proportions for stability. Come on.
As for layer sorting read up on ecological zonation. A more recent study showed the layer order would be preserved. Also it's not ENTIRELY inconsistent, and the idea that they needed time in between to harden is just nonsense. There are vast numbers of layers that all show soft bending!
@@logicianbones I have no doubt AIG has excuses to cover all this, but no, it has not been 'debunked' in any legit way. Their group of PhD holders are paid to create these plausible (to the scientifically illiterate) apologetics to try and bend reality to fit their narrative.
I'm answering your multiple comments in this one comment, otherwise this gets to be a confusing nasty mess.
Regarding the gilgamesh story while the shape of the boat is different, a number of details are the same. Details that are nonsensical to such a story. In both stories, for example, they release 3 birds to determine if there is dry land. Such a thing is not needed, just look over the side. Neither boat had the capacity to be guided or powered, so if you aren't parked on dry land you aren't there yet, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Regarding the sorting, well, let's break that one down because you said a lot of wrong things:
You: As for layer sorting read up on ecological zonation.
Me: This doesn't solve your problem. This relates to different biomes and the life in those biomes. Lowlands, highlands, tundra, desert, tidepools vs pelagic vs shallow oceans, etc. If you introduce the planet, as a whole, to the torrential flow of water that would be needed to flood it to the point it covered the tallest mountain, even if the tallest then was half as tall it is now, that amount of water in the 40 days in the story, or even in a year, would thoroughly stir everything up and there would absolutely be overlaps.
You: A more recent study showed the layer order would be preserved.
Me: recent study by who? AIG or someone similar? Or real scientists?
You: Also it's not ENTIRELY inconsistent,
Me: Not sure what you mean here, I think you are refering to the dating that I mentioned: "You can rail against radiometric dating's accuracy all you like, but it is consistent.".. If that is what you are referring to yes, it is consistent. I mean that in two ways.. First, when samples are properly collected and prepared, and submitted for the correct tests the dating is consistent. It is a reliable technology. Second, if we stumble across a layer with multiple fossils of the same kind of critter they will each test to the same time period. It is important to know also, and AIG does not explain this ever, is that they don't just do 1 test and call it good. First they collect multiple samples of both the object in question and the surrounding material. Second, they submit those samples, once prepared, for multiple tests. With radiometric dating there are lots of different tests based on what is being tested and the date ranges the test is reliable for. Think of this like having a 12" ruler, a micromete, a yard stick, and a rolled up tape measure. Each has an ideal range for it's use. Some RM tests are good for say 100 to 50,000 years. Some are good for 10,000 to 100,000 years, and so on. They overlap in many cases. If you have a thing to test and you expect it to be say 65Million years old, you would submit it for a test where that material can be tested accurately and well within that test's range. You would also submit it for the test that is a little younger, and one a little older. When you get the results you should see that the middle one shows a clear date reading somewhere in the middle, the younger test should show it at or beyond the range it covers toward the older side, and the older test should show the opposite. In this way they corroborate one another. If they don't then that discrepancy needs to be explained. Contaminated samples, or perhaps they have the date estimate wrong, perhaps they found something new and unexpected.
You: and the idea that they needed time in between to harden is just nonsense.
Me: The layers are more than simply color changes in the rock. They are separate layers, if you take a hammer to them they will usually separate along that layer line. This is because one layer hardened before the next was laid down. If this was all done in one deluge it would be one massive chunk of rock or clay.
You: There are vast numbers of layers that all show soft bending!
Me: The bent layers weren't bent while soft. But they were under great pressure. AIG and others will tell you they are bent with no cracks, and they will use pics from a distance to show the wild patterns of bending. But when you walk up to them they are very clearly bent. The cracks then fill in with sediment over time because rain and erosion continued to happen, and the cracks allowed the water to flow through. These happen for various reasons. If you want to learn about them properly I would say start with wikipedia, look for Fold_(geology). (I don't think I can post links here, not chancing it.)
How did the dinosaur soft tissues and carbon 14 last for 64 million years?
There are polystrate fossils(trees, jellyfish, whales, nautiloids) that throw the dating methods for a loop.
Ken Ham, how do we go to heaven?
Oh please, get real
You don't. Heaven is coming here.
Personally I don't believe in such a concept as "heaven", but speaking to some Christian friends, for whom I have considerable respect, the answer would seem to be something along the lines of "under no circumstances should you take any notice of what Ken Ham tells you". Sounds pretty plausible to me.
You don't - it doesn't exist. It's a fairytale. Sorry to burst your bubble. Focus on this life because it is the only one you get.
@@williamgreenfield9991 There are many Near Death Experiences. Some are positive; some are negative. There are numerous books and movies documenting what people have experienced. Your soul and spirit continue to live after you leave your body. There are documented cases of people who did not believe in Jesus calling on Him after they died and were saved. If you don't believe and die, remember that you can still call on Jesus to save you.
Praise the Lord, so true!
I suggest mint tea for trapped wind. Also an infusion of senna pods with lemon juice for severe constipation. Always consult your doctor.
I suggest you stop your mocking and become more humble. Who knows what a day may bring? No one is promised tomorrow - not even you. Eternal lives matter!
~ John 3:16, John 14:6
@@mlamber7780 Even if that "Eternal life" is a lie you're fighting for?
Doesn't seem too noble or humble to me.
We dream
Ron Wyatt found it
Wyatt found a way to hustle money from investors. He was nurse (NOT an archaeologist) who claimed to have discovered various biblical artifacts and sites, including Noah's Ark. There is currently no scientific evidence to support Ron Wyatt's claim that he discovered Noah's Ark. Many experts have pointed out inconsistencies and lack of verifiable evidence in his findings. All he did find was a natural rock formation any professional geologist would recognize as a doubly plunging syncline and nothing more.
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No -- he didn't!
@@EuclidFusionSupernovawell it was a Turkish Air Force pilot who first found and photographed the ark but it was then Ron Wyatt who brought more attention to it culminating in the studies being done to this day. There is zero doubt Noah’s ark has been found and anyone denying it is just blind or otherwise refusing to acknowledge the evidence you can go see for yourself TODAY in Turkey, if you wanted to
@@svoncampeNope -- Wyatt lied and got caught lying about his alleged discovery. Now what do you think that says that he uses fraudulent claims to prop up his god-ark-story? And yet here YOU are propagating his lies??
I hope to see your ark, I like comic books. Your ark is a great tribute to fantasy and engineering.
The funniest thing about the ark encounter was when they claimed on their insurance for water damage, 😂🤣😂
Japanese history has no flood thru that time , Chinese history talks about a flood about the right time ,but folks survived by living in trees
I do wonder where all the dead humans are in the fossil layer.
A little reading can inform you about the Neander valley in Germany, Cro-Magnon in France, Omo Kibish in Ethiopia etc.
Hoax all of these place , all a Hoax these places
@@markfarrell6103 what places?
god magic is the answer to anything and everything these cultists don't want to (or can't) answer.
@@EuclidFusionSupernova God actually is the answer to everything. What turned you off to Him?
You Can Not Deny The Firmament Once You Realize This: it's likened to crystal!!!!!!! Ezek 1:22
For its clarity, not hardness.
Also that's in Exodus, not Ezekiel. The Ezekiel one isn't the sky raqia (expanse, what's mistranslated "firmament"). It's a square area over the four angelic creatures that moves around like a litter in Ezekiel, carrying the throne around. Read context.
Crystal is a hard substance. We just have space up there.
I deny it
Thank-you Ken, for adding your voice to the thousands of scientists, archaeologists, and geologists who have been forced to admit the facts and truths about fossils, the sedimentary layers indicative of a powerful flood moving huge amounts of mud and rock and burying many different species of animals in the same layer! Sea animals, fish, and land animals all on the same grave! Only a powerful flood beyond local proportions could explain this.
But by the way, there was a documentary put out in about 1976 that showed videographic and real "gopher wood" hand hewn planks (from the Querkas Oak tree species prevelant in the area; don't know if I'm spelling that right, sorry!) recovered from many expeditions to the Ararat mountains from the 40's thru the late 60's when the Turkish government permitted expeditions to the mountains. NASA and satellite imagery has captured the Ark on multiple occasions, and Air Force pilots from Britain photographed and recorded their seeing the prow of a large ship protruding out from a crevice at high elevation. It was found that during the Armenian earthquake in the late 1800's I think it was; that the Ark broke into 2 pieces and was covered in ice at the high section; and at the lower elevation, it can be seen in the summer months.
Numerous eyewitness accounts exist detailing the expeditions to Mt. Ararat, and describing the physical measurements and shape of the boat; exactly mirroring the Bible's description of how God wanted Noah to construct the vessel! Unfortunately, these expeditions have been swept under the rug of science in order to perpetuate atheism and the evolution paradigm. Also, the Russian government stepped in in the 80's and stopped allowing all expeditions to the mountain areas. so there's political opposition to those who want to climb the mountain areas; preventing current testimony and evidence from being collected.
I think I feel genuinely sad for you.... But I might change my mind 🙄.
There is a layer of iridium in the Earth from when asteroid struck the Earth. All dinosaurs are found under the layer, all modern mammals are found on top. The flood doesnt explain that.
"Thousands"? AHHHHahahaha!
@@plainsman Ok, hundreds! That was a bit exaggerated from my studies.😆
I went to a museum in Hillsboro Texas a really small museum on fossils and you can learn more Scientific facts than you would if any at the Ark Encounter Museum becasue they teach the actual science that should be taught in schools.THE GLOBAL FLOOD NEVER HAPPEND!!
I listened to a speach by martin luther king. in this speach he said :" if i can help somebody, if i can do my duty as a christian! my living has not been in vain!"
ive never heard ken ham say anything remotely close to that!
ken ham is not so much pro Jesus, as he is anti evolution.
When you start your argument with "the Bible says ..." you've already lost everyone except those who are already true believers, so why bother?
The message of the Bible is that the Creator has come to earth to save us and that required Him to die for you in order for you to be able to spend all eternity with Him. You will never hear any message remotely as important as the Bibles message. It behooves you to believe the message or spend the rest of your life investigating if it's true or not because if you reject Gods love you will be without hope and without God forever.
@@j.f.h.holybible6492 No I am not without hope, love, compassion and all the rest just because I don't believe in a God. Neither am I immoral. I am not vain enough to think that somebody up there thinks I'm special. My true belief is that man created God in his own image and we should be humble enough to accept that we are a just part of nature and that it looks like we are so harmful to nature that the planet unfortunately would be better off without us. Just look at the beautiful parts of the planet that have managed to avoid our interference.
@@neilcorbett5057 I think it's important for people such as yourself to realize that you have absolutely zero proof that what you believe is true. For all you know God could have a mansion on the far side of Pluto. But for me, God is more real than anything could possibly be. God is my best Friend and my Boss. I have worked for God for over 40 years. I am more certain that the Gospel is true than I am the sky is blue on a sunny day. God has done amazing miracles in answer to prayer in Jesus name. To know the God of the Bible is eternal life.
If the flood was global then how did all the animals get on all the islands in the sea? Did the kangaroos swim to Australia?
Yes, and the Polar Bears walked from the desert to the sea, and swam north.
They knew they were white and their food was over there.
The siblings of Noah got Asian, black, Indian in a few years, and got blue, green and brown eyes.
As a polar bear I can confirm, really inconsiderate of Noah not to at least drop us off on the right continent, we’ve held a grudge ever since, it’s why we hunt you guys, you know since all of you are his descendants
Ken ham needs to have a conversation with Richard Dawkins Hill Street in route
There is an overwhelming amount of archeological evidence that confirms the word of God. Truth cannot be determined apart from the Scriptures.
@@kevinkelly2162 Did you not watch the video at all?
@@II_Timothy this video had no evidence, just more assertions for a flood we know didn't happen.
@@bobwilkinson2008 Expect for his recap at 4:49
Evidence: God‘s word is true!
There's plenty of evidence supporting SOME incidents and people recorded in the Bible.
There is also evidence contradicting SOME incidents and people recorded in the Bible and statements in the Bible that contradict other statements. There's also plenty in the Bible - such as the story of Noah - that are literary creations, not historical accounts.
"We start from the bible, then we cherry-pick bits and pieces of science done by real scientists (none of whom work for us) and sledge-hammer it into our Genesis box...and discard the parts we can't beat into the desired shape...and then cover it all with magic, 'cuz the bible says so."
You're obviously doing religion, not science, you and all the other YECs, why not just admit it and be a preacher?
Because - obviously - it would ruin the scam. Liars like Ken Hamm and Lies in Genesis, and the Anti-Discovery Institute (which has no laboratory, not even a single microscope) and the like need to pretend they're doing science because their real goal is to wedge their particular sect of their particular religion into the public school system - and thereby indoctrinate everyone's children into their sect at taxpayer expense. It is pseudo-science done using dishonest means by dishonest people for an evil purpose.
The only problem that I know of still being worked on is the heat problem. Every other argument for the big bang and evolution can be refuted.
@@jefferygoldthorpe919 The heat problem is a by-product of the half-life of U238 by which we measure the age of the earth...YECs simply have no good answer for that, so they end up with the heat problem in their laps, for which they respond "god-magic." The second heat problem is a product of limestone all over the earth, for the formation of which there is an upper speed limit...they have to pretend that upper speed limit gets magically waved away, which lands then with their second heat problem...which they also wave away with "god-magic." Then of course there is continental movement...they are required to insist that it all happened in one year, which lands them with their third heat problem, which they once again wave away with "god-magic." So it's not really the heat problem, it's the unwillingness to accept facts that don't fit their bronze-age magic book.
The claim that all fossils were laid down at once by a world-wide flood - in fact the claim that that's the only possibility - is ridiculous. It's impossible as well as being evidence-free. Once again, "god-magic" to avoid direct evidence. The universe in its current form is at least 13.5 billion years old...which YEC's get around by "god-magic" changing the speed of light. They don't have a way of explaining the DNA relationships between all living things and how those match up so brilliantly with the evolutionary tree (because, unlike god-magic, evolution is an actual scientific theory that makes these things called "predictions," a completely foreign idea in god-magic-land). So they just cry out "god-magic" and "for the bible tells me so." And this nonsense is what they want to force down our children's throats in our public schools. No F-ing way.
By definition, it is impossible for anyone to truly be an Atheist.
Why?
What’s your reasoning here?
You’re probably confused what atheism is.
Which definition ?
A hatred for God is often confused with atheism.
Why is it impossible for anyone to truly be an atheist? Atheism is simply a lack of belief in a god or gods. Whether you agree with that point of view or not, it is obviously possible. Atheism has nothing to do with evolution either, despite what creationists like to say. They actually know this, but obviously it suits their argument to pretend otherwise. Unfortunately, lying for Jesus seems like an extra commandment.
@@jamesrecknor6752 I can't hate something that doesn't exist.
The idea that the Ark would have been dismantled for its timber is a compelling one. Never thought of that before. All the trees would have had their timber ruined by salt water.
Yes, the people and animals needed shelter of varying degrees. The new trees may have been too small to yield lumber suitable for building. Even if they were, the time needed to turn trees into boards using hand tools would have been far too long. People have "recycled" what they have since animal hide, wood and stone could be turned into a hammer.
The ark would have sunk beneath the waves by week 2 of your mythical flood. You're a fool to believe these utterly ridiculous biblical conspiracy theories.
So where did all the water come from and where did it go after the rain stopped?
Just read Genesis account of the flood.
@@shanebell2514That's the claim. The water cycle is evidence against it.
It went into the earth, and scientists have detected water deep beneath that is way more than that of the ocean.
How bout if the world is billions of years old and water is from space why didnt earth dry up or flood by now
Other then clouds i have never saw film over water landing on earth
If heat didnt rise it would never rain
@@0i7PX72Nga I do not believe this claim unless you can provide the original cite please.
Not a theological question mate just want to know why you haven`t got a `stache. And good to see you kept your Aussie accent after all those years in yankland
His accent is the only thing which distinguishes him from all the other grifters out there.
It’s a competitive game, so you have to have an edge.
@@RealHooksy But get a `stache matey you look like a religious maniac
You said the magic word..... strata. Not one layer of sediment with all the dead animals in it.... but many layers of sediment with different types of dead animals in them, and the lowest sediment layers have animals that didn't exist at the time of the so called Noah's flood. In fact some fossils are as little as a few thousand years old, while others are many, many millions of years old. There are NO human fossils buried in the same layers as dinosaurs, and there are some layers with only sea creature fossils in them.
Your explanation amounts to: The Bible says so, and I believe it. Ken Ham is willfully ignorant.
That's circular reasoning. Obviously we believe they DID exist at the time...
@@logicianbones What? are you serious?
Certainly some organisms could have gone extinct before the Flood.
How old are the dinosaur fossils containing soft tissue and carbon 14?
@@logicianbonesyou believe without evidence... you must be MAGA supporter🤣
@@logicianbones Well, that's beyond stupid!
Weal answer: Basically he says, "We Know it happened because we believe the Bible which is God's Word."
How exactly did kangaroos get to the ark? Polar bears? Where did the extra billion or so cubic km of water come from, to raise sea level 2 km? Where did it go, after? Just curious...
Hey, good question. For the water, the bible says that the fountions of the great deep burst open. So there seems to be water that came up from below the earth, which is something that is talked about now days with regards to the hollow earth theroy. Once the flood ended, the water would've seeped back into the earth. Also it talks about the flood gates of heaven being opened and rain coming down. Perhaps God brought down rain from heaven to fill the earth.
You forgot about T-Rex, Titantasaur, Giganotosaurus, and all the thousands of other "kinds" of dinosaurs this guy claims was on the ark. According to him, the "kinds" on the ark morphed into all the species of dinosaurs that ever lived and then all died out in just 6000 years.
@@iriemon1796 I never forgot about them, because you never asked about them. But if you want to bring them up, can you show me where this guy says that all those different kinds were on the ark?
Pretty sure it was just two animals of every kind. So only two baby t-Rex’s. There’s no issue there at all.
@@iriemon1796 and when you say that they are morphed into different species, isn’t that pretty much what evolution is?
@@II_Timothy Seems like you have a major problem with the hydrostatics then. You need to come up with two plausible world-wide forces, one acting on earthborne water to squeeze it out as part of the flood, and one acting 40 days later to force it to soak back into earth. The amount of earth required to soak up a 2-km high column of water, simply doesn't exist.
BTW "Hollow Earth" is not a viable theory. There is no place at all where significant underground voids could hide from seismometric measurements.
Any thoughts on how kangaroos made it across hundreds of miles of open ocean, then overland thru Burma, India etc. to the Middle East to get on the ark? And ofcourse the return journey...
Also a problem with God bringing water "down from heaven". Where exactly is "heaven"? If it's a place somewhere just "up there", why can't we see the water when we point a telescope "up"?
I don't mean to be attacking your beliefs, but i seriously question that God requires us to believe plainly impossible things.
So incredibly true and I study mouse brains. Scientists believe this like me, they are not in the frontl ines. Same with the research papers that prove it.
Why are you not mentioning that Ron Wyatt discovered and proved the existence of the remains of noah's ark on the hills of mount Ararat and that even all of the anchors, etc were found in the valley along with the tombstone of the eight survivors on board the ark?
And that The ark encounter was copied from those remains and evidence.
Because no such thing happened and Ron Wyatt was an amateur so wildly out of his depth that even Christianity's most revered archaeologists would have laughed him out of the building.
What Mr Wyatt found on the side of Mount Ararat was a bunch of randomly shaped rocks and dirt created through wind and water erosion.
@@VisshanVis Can you point to coordinates of rocks of similar attributes around there...? It wasnt even on the side of the Mt.
You are disinformed.
@@i7Qp4rQ No I'm not as there was no ark it never happened.
@@VisshanVis You are swinging into air then. Typical atheshit. Find a similar anomaly, and provide coordinates. Ive looked the google satellite images there around, and havent. I heard there was, but when asked, the results are the same as yours - none.
Where did all the dinosaurs fit 😂😂😂😂
The Bible says “God told Noah to take two of every kind of animal…”. Most of the dinosaur “kinds” weren’t as big as Brontosaurus or T-rex, and even of those kinds, Noah likely brought a younger and much smaller male and female aboard the ark.🦕 🦖
@debrathomas2704 WOW!!! Fancy that and is the earth 6000 years old????
@@desmondirwin200 Sounds reasonable to me! Scientists say that the earth gets a little farther away from the sun each year. If the earth were billions of years old, it would have started out so close to the sun that it would have been destroyed and couldn’t have existed. The sediment layer that scientists measure in the oceans is consistent with an earth that is only thousands of years old. The layer of dust that is on the moon is also consistent with a moon that is only thousands of years old. These are measurable things. I haven’t heard a good argument yet for an earth that is millions or billions of years old.
@@debrathomas2704 Yet nowhere in the bible does it mention man-eating lizards that could flatten entire cities in packs without ever breaking a sweat-
@@desmondirwin200 No The Earth Is 4.543 Billion Years Old
I could overlook Ken Ham saying these things if I thought he really believes it, but I'd bet my house he'd fail a lie detector test if hooked up to one and questioned about his honest belief in what he is saying in this video. ALL OF IT, not just most.
WHY ARE YOU HERE THEN? JESUS WARNED US OF THE MOCKERS IN THESE LAST DAYS. HELLO. JUDEGEMENT IS COMING UPON THIS WHOLE EARTH, GET ON THE ARK OF SALVATION BEFORE ITSTOO LATE.
Man, depending on the state of your house. I'd take you up on that. If it's junk I wouldn't bother. Ken Ham has spent not just money and time, he has spent his entire life invested in answers in Genesis. Your out on the street friend.
@snowman7820 he also sued his insurance company, when they refused to pay a flood damage claim on his "Ark Encounter", lol. Seems like God is trying to tell him something.
You will see it when you believe it!!
Of course. Many believe Trump is an honest, moral man. Thus that is what they see.
What's amazing is how the flood sorted the animals by species instead of by size or density. Almost like it happened over billions of years instead of 40 days.
I think the sorting was more by habitat.
@@johnsmit5999That is also amazing how different ecosystems and habitats are stacked upon each other.
i think there was more than 1 ark maybe 6 // thats how we get different races
I am 38 old when I was about 12 have seen a tv program in which ark was found. Satelite pictures with zoom to the place and the arc itself!!!!!!!!! Rulers of Russia organised endevours there in the past too!!! Even some gays closer to our times were there and confirmed what Bible says!!! Broken in few parts but still preserved incredible...program proofed all I know people who recorded that on vhs tapes. And here is the problem when I was about 15 I think 3 years later there was similiar program that """" shoooowssss""""" beyond all doubst that ark never existed hmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 the program about the ark found for real and its pictures and futage never ever repeated again. I wish to have those vhs
There’s no way the naysayers can prove the Ark never existed.
The movie was a hoax.
If they actually found an ark as described in the Bible, don’t you think it would be THE biggest archaeological discovery EVER?!
It isn’t real, they are lying to you.
I used to believe in it not so sure now I’m looking for someone to explain to me why wombats were here in Australia before the flood as we have a fossil record of them the size of houses. Something is not adding up because we still have wombats today.. the only way I can explain it is if there was a worldwide flood our dividing range which goes all the way from the top of Australia all the way down to the bottom of Australia. It’s 3 1/2 thousand miles long just maybe the animals were able to hang onto the tallest mountain here which isn’t very tall. I don’t know it’s doing my head in but I know that there was not a worldwide flood in Australia..
We also have what’s called the Wallace Line. The animals on one side are completely different to the animals on the other side and still to this day the animals will not cross over this pretend Line.
So how many different animals were on Earth then? How big would a ship have to be to get 2 of each animal on Earth on it now? I'd say it would be impossible to build one big enough
Scientists actually did the calculations in the 90s. The boat was big enough and had room for food. There were two of each type of animal. Not each subset of each type.
George Hergopian (i spelled wrong) saw the old Ark around 1906 as a kid. He saw it again a year or two later. He was with his uncle going up Mt Ararat in the summer and a big part of the Ark was seen as the ice and snow melted in some area. Others have seen the ark too! One guy saw it later on around 1950 after WW2 and the ark was broken in two! See the "Unsolved Mysteries Noahs Ark", tv show from the 90s.
@@nooneyouknowhere6148 And how did all the animals get there?
The fossil record does contain a large population of extinct animals. Thank God that He eliminated the dinosaurs!
It’s not 2 of every single animal on the earth. It’s 2 of each kind, that’s a big difference. Meaning you don’t take two of every type of dog. You would take 2 of the original dog kind that all of the dogs we have today came from. When they do the analysis it becomes very doable.
"...and so we start with God's word concerning the global flood.."
No we don't. We start all over the place. Some people start with the Bible, some start with the theory of evolution, and some start with something else entirely.
Also evidence is a fact that indicates whether a claim is true or not. If a fact doesn't change your credence towards a claim, then that fact doesn't indicate whether the claim is true or false aka not evidence.
By "we" he clearly means himself and those sharing his approach. (Probably presups, which I'm not one, but in a sense what he's saying is valid, and he clarifies that sense correctly. Basically using the Bible as the hypothesis to test, and he's right that the evidence does confirm it.)
@@logicianbones Ah. So he isn't talking to me.
If you want to find truth, you should first start with the (scientific) evidence. Not with a predetermined conclusion.
In science they start with the things called "facts." Not an approach Lies in Genesis will ever attempt.
@@logicianbones ["By "we" he clearly means himself and those sharing his approach."] Then he should stop being disingenuous and instead make his titles more accurate. For this one he should say "Biblical literal believers cannot deny the flood" instead of the more generic "You" which posits than anyone watching his video could not deny it.