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The writers realized that Georges character is so loved by us viewers that they had this genius idea of making sheldons mother roleplay, so Sheldon only assumed he cheated. They really did that to not ruin the imagine of the character, brilliant.
I thought they would go this route. Having the mother roleplay as a blonde means he may have thought it's next door neighbour. As a religious prude, Mary is not going to correct Sheldon. Also, If Mary was unaware of Sheldon's presence, she would believe the cheating based on George's previous history and not put 2+2 and think the other woman was her. If George dies soon after, she doesn't equate the other woman as being her roleplaying, so she actually does believe he cheated on her based on Sheldons story
Considering current sheldon still thought his father cheated on his mother (even after he died) :( it was never made clear. Either that or sheldon was too stubborn to accept it.
@MKVlogs-oo7tw doesn't fit at all. The only part that's is common to the story told on TBBT is sheldon walking on his father having sex with an unidentified woman. The rest was changed
@@capeto08 I just saw an old episode when Sheldon tells Penny, "My dad had an affair with a blonde barkeep." Yes, it had to be Rhonda, who else? But they decided to clean it up so that George wouldn't end up like an unlikable character.
But it does show us how a misunderstanding might have so tragically altered his view and relationship with his father that he could only see the relationship in the most negative light imaginable.
The difference between Sheldon as a dumb dude in his 20s then looking back after he became a father and realizing what his father was actually doing and saying and playing dumb at times...
Im beyond confused, it is very unlikely he was misremembered as Sheldon kept saying he has eidetic memory and he once said everything he says is the truth implying he never lies. Why is he protrayed very differently from what he described in BBT?
I mean he really is,He always acts and thinks he is the best around and everyone around is wrong, trash, and etc cause literally he mocks engineers for no reason and howards like they are monkeys who only just recently learned to use a wrench I mean the earth thing hate has a bit of justification cause who dfuq cares about rocks whereas arent engineers doing the designs of buildings and shet soo wtf? So yeah sheldon living in his own world is right in every way and aspect
Since YS has voiceovers by adult-Sheldon (who's clearly older than he is in TBBT since he mentions having children), presumably future-Sheldon learned the truth from his mother some time after TBBT ended. Maybe we’ll learn the specifics of that conversation. Maybe not. Either way, he spent decades mistakenly believing that his father cheated.
@@gamesgames3318but, if you look in other perspective (*YS viewers perspective), in the series She's a Nut. even tho Mary said she's right or other things but in her eyes she is right. but the story goes with others perspective too it just a matter of perspective. same with other people too
I actually quite like this as a retcon! It greater emphasizes that Sheldon is emotionally vulnerable, tragically to the point that he never confronted his father about something that could’ve been cleared up rather easily.
@@danielpritchard510If we see Sheldon in TBBT and YS too he always seemed to me an unreliable source. His view of seeing things is not normal. If something is good for him, it's good else bad. He lacks emotional intelligence since the beginning.
I stopped watching YS a while ago, but I am glad they found a way to get around the cheating thing, George was too good of a father to have it ruined that way.
And it makes sense that Mary is dressed up like an oktoberfest girl - she did just get back after a few months in Germany!! And from the back that blonde wig could look somewhat like Brenda's hair.
I was so glad to see that the “other woman” was Mary!! He and Mary had become so sweet together and I just couldn’t bear the thought of him being unfaithful. I just wish Sheldon could have talked with his father. It’s a good lesson for us all.
This is without a doubt, the best misunderstanding Ive ever seen. Throughout the big bang theory, they talk about how dumb and crazy Sheldon‘s father was. But in young Sheldon, it’s almost the opposite. He’s genuinely a caring and honest man.
It should be noted that even in BBT, there were TONS of signs that he was a good dad, showing everything he taught to Sheldon and how much he missed his dad. Sheldon has the mentality of a 5 year old.... and he remembers everything....
This has been the theory since the beginning. And he did knock once. But he didn’t wait for an answer. In big band he does wait for answer or someone opens the door.
@@WSwarthunder Yeah it wasn't clear in the short with the way they wrote it so I get the misunderstanding. But it doesn't say that Mary cheated it says "It was Mary!" Not meaning that Mary cheated, but meaning that the "other woman" that led Sheldon to think that his father cheated was, in fact, Mary. Don't know if it's clear so I'll present it as an equation It was Mary! = Mary was "the other woman"
I loved BBT and never thought a “spinoff” would be more than a curiosity to me. I was in love with Young Sheldon from the very first episode and did in fact like it more than BBT as the seasons went on. ❤
Im so glad i found this clip. This redemtion of both parents helps so much. Mary is a piece of work too but this shows that she clearly was trying to work on the relationship with her husband. Im almost tempted to watch young sheldon now.
So, what fixes the BBT scene that reveals the woman with whom George cheated bought Sheldon action figures to buy his affection. Are we supposed to believe he didn't recognize his own mother giving him action figures? The writers of YS seem to lack enough maturity to actually deal with canon in a straightforward way.
Both big bang their in my eyes crapped on the character, that he was wrong about everything he said happened to him, I think it would have been better and interesting if it was true, but people didn’t believe him because of who is, which is kind of realistic representation.
Nothing was actually retconned. The Whole Show of Young Sheldon was a flashback from Sheldon's perspective. Billy was meant to be a bully but in Sheldon's flashback, he's a brainless idiot. Makes sense right?
I've always theorized that Sheldon's father was not really that bad, and that his childhood memories are just warped because he tends to live in his own world
Exactly sheldon in big bang theory down plays his family constantly calls his brother a loser who sells tyres when reality is he's a extremely successful bussiness man with multiple stores
This was a super creative way to "change" the back story to fit what they had developed. Unlike anything disney touches where they just completely ignore it. Kudos to the writers
I wouldt call creating changing aspect of the original story @@baileycrombie2267 Creative woulde have been sticking to the original elements and pulling of the same results
Well actually I think the knocking three times was introduced by Sheldon later when lennard was dating the Korean spy and one knock wasn’t enough to let Lennard open the door as he was busy with Kim otherwise .. so Sheldon proceeded knocking further and right after three knocks lennard answered so I think in Sheldon’s head three knocks seemed the way to go for the rest of his life 😄 only in the later seasons the thing with his father cheating was the explanation for the knocking
No, it doesn't. The writers pussied out because they didn't want to make George unlikable. Despite that fact that Mary is awful and they set up his cheating for like 4 seasons now. It would have been way more impactful to have him cheat and deal with the stress that leads to his heart attack and death. But the writers are cowards.
@@williammccormick984yea but why make a good man into a villain just because of a throw away line in the show and this is a better direction to go because it shows even though sheldon has a perfect memory he can still mess up how he sees things and miss interpreters the situation he can remember everything but it doesn’t mean he knows what’s going on without context.
@@legacyplays6050 Because that wasn't clear from the entire 7 seasons of him misunderstanding social cues? You didn't get enough of that? They built up the entire character of George to be a cheater eventually, the crux of his character, and turned it into a joke. A fart after 6 plus seasons of buildup. I don't see why that's hard to understand. They wasted your time. It's weak writing. He's wouldn't be a villain. He's a human being. They pussied out. Plain and simple.
Bro when I heard that George cheated on Mary and scarred Sheldon, I was mad, especially since everyone talks about how great the father is, but im glad it is cleared up.
@@shadenox8164ur just a terrible person if u think a person of his character would suddenly cheat in his home house... Smh. Maybe ur the type of person who would do that to ur family... after over 6 years of George being a loving caring father he would never act like you.
@@wallieb4325 Out of curiosity ( nah not really, its sarcasm ), why would you blatantly lie like this? Lack of attention? Boredom? Miserable life so you decided to just go around fucking with people by lying?
@@wallieb4325 First of all, my guy, it is stated in TBBT that Sheldon dad died of a heart failure, not a suicide, so thats the thing you lied about. Secondly, even if it wasnt stated in the show, and we would give you the benefit of a doubt that you just somehow remember it wrong, common sense would have already given you enough clues that a COMEDY show wouldnt bring up a heavy subject such as suicide into it. This isnt to say not every comedy show wont but it should at least make you ponder enough to recheck your information about how Sheldon's dad died.
@@wallieb4325 So, i am a guy, and that last statement of yours shows both that youre quite sexist, and thats coming from me, i dont usually even take those things seriously, and it also shows that you dont just find it funny to make people triggered over a show, but just in general. I dont usually waste time trying to talk with a troll, but since you seem like you can still be reasonable, ill do it. People "losing their mind" over a show, id say its more likely because youre ruining it for them by either spreading false information, or saying "its just a show" etc. People can enjoy a fictional media and be passionate about it, thats a joy for them, the same as you find joy in triggering people for whatever reason. I advise you to stop doing that, because its not a healthy hobby, as its literally finding joy in other people's suffering ( getting triggered and angry in this case ), quite a sadistic and, to be frank, very sadistic, pathetic and miserable. You can listen to me, or you can stop and have stopped reading half way because this is a long paragraph, its your call, but you wont be truly happy just trying to bring people down. I hope you will understand this. I believe youre a good person too. Have a good day, and life.
People in the comments out here thinking the writers did something big and genius, but they really didn't. It's a simple retcon, Sheldon specifically mentioned that it was with Brenda and not just any woman. They realised this and made him not do that anymore.
With the blonde wig, and how quickly he ran out of there he very easily could have thought it was Brenda. You have to keep in mind that Sheldon's brain doesn't work like a normal person's. He has an insane IQ and doesn't feel or see things like everyone else does. Being a genius doesn't mean you get everything right. Edison was a genius, but he had to make 99 mistakes before the 100th worked.
Well it seems like the whole purpose of the show with Sheldon narrating is because its his auto biography. Maybe his mother reads it and tells him what really happened.
@@zebafarheen6281he really only emotionally cheated with Brenda because both himself and Mart weren't speaking nothing physical ever happened between the two.
I think they forgot the bit where he said "My father and I locked eyes, I ran to my room and we never ever spoke of it". Specifically, the "My father and I locked eyes" part
what did they forget? the dad didn't think he needed to go tell his son that him and his mom were roleplaying. and Sheldon never confronted him about what he believes was him cheating with anyone ther woman, so the dad had no reason to assume that is what Sheldon thought had happened. the dad knows he woman was his wife, so he had no reason to believe Sheldon thought it was another woman. so the dad believes Sheldon just never talked about the time he walked in on his parents. which is completely normal.
@ge2719 Think you forgot the parts "We locked eyes" and "I ran to my room". Now you can say they still locked eyes but never showed it (even though Sheldon was very quick in and out to even lock eyes successfully and he KNOCKED before entering which would have alerted Mary), but you can't say Sheldon walking out of the house instead of running to his room isn't them forgetting. And I'll give you why he didn't talk to Sheldon. George isn't one for confrontation or *those* kinds of talks and was probably embarrassed like Sheldon was. But you can't deny those other things I mentioned are glaringly obvious. Plus, again, why didn't Mary turn around? She would have heard Sheldon knock and open the door, both of them would've.
@@S-Maniahave you had sex? Ever? It’s very much plausible Mary didn’t hear him and there wouldn’t really be any reason to talk to Sheldon about what he might’ve saw since he knows more about biology then they did
@tomatosoup1304 Oh I know that. That scarred Sheldon for life, no telling what George felt. He's not one for uncomfortable talks like that. But Mary definitely is. She would have also heard Sheldon knocking and opening the door and would want to clear up the situation as Sheldon understandably might have thought (and did think) it was another woman and his dad was cheating on her. Right? 🤔
This was brilliant writing. Ps. Sheldon 20 years later will peep through the window with Howard in the car and see Mary having relations on the couch. HA!!!!! 😂
Retcon is not fixing it. There's also a scene in BBT seasons before where Sheldon talked to Leonard about the disintegration of his parents' marriage and how his father took up with a bottle blonde who tried to buy his affection with action figures. So, even if someone buys into the scene of Mary in a blonde wing that totally looks fake and would've fallen off during sex, who was buying Sheldon action figures? Mary could've bleached her hair blonde and handed Sheldon action figures, and Sheldon would've still recognized it was his own mother giving them to him, therefore it *must* have been another woman with the action figures. This "Young Sheldon" scene is just a pathetic attempt by YS writers to whitewash George, like they've whitewashed much of BBT canon. But to me, since BBT was first, it is canon, and George was a rotten husband/father, and a cheater.
I do like what they did for Sheldon‘s dad in the show because we got so attached to George as a character for being a good dad. He’s trying his best even when he doesn’t fully understand things. But I don’t like the taking away Sheldon‘s character depth, and making it a misunderstanding when in reality, this traumatized him and explained a lot of his behaviours when he was an adult. In Big Bang theory, Sheldon loved his dad, but had a very complex relationship with him because George in Big Bang theory was not the best father to Sheldon. He didn’t understand Sheldon and did get frustrated with Sheldon easily and in the show Mary (older) did call George a cheater, and said, while she did love him and honoured him as her husband, she and him did not have the best relationship as a result of his infidelity and some of his behaviours towards the kids. He was meant to be the standard Texan man in the 80s. At this point, I’m starting to think of young Sheldon as an entirely separate show that has taken away a lot of Sheldon‘s actual backstory from the show in order to make it into something that is more digestible and shows more functional, but loving family, as opposed to the complex nature of adult Sheldon Childhood traumas reflecting in him as an adult. I think that the young Sheldon writers are choosing to ignore some of the times that adult Sheldon would actually break and talk about his childhood and would say what his dad would say to him and some of those things were not nice and truly hurt Sheldon.
This also could be a matter of perspective. The stories Sheldon tells are through his eyes, and he doesn't view the world the same way most people do, so the stories we hear in TBBT are warped by his perception, while YS shows them how they actually were. I can definitely believe, with how awkward talking to Sheldon seems to be in both shows, George tried to give him helpful words of encouragement, but Sheldon viewed them as hurtful and traumatic. Or it could just be YS writers retconning TBBT to make George a good father figure for a fun and entertaining show, rather than what would have probably ended up more of an upsetting and traumatic show that wouldn't have been as successful. I don't think anyone would want to watch George get drunk and verbally (and possibly physically) abuse Sheldon and his other kids.
@@slovnicurling9808lmfao. The irony for someone who says, "More simple people" , while TRYING to insulting others😂😂😂 Your simple mind is showing in ur terrible use of English while trying to insult others.😅🤣😅🤣
@@shadenox8164umm... lmfao. Same character. Same incident. Sheldon just did not realize it was his mother with his father. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?...🤔🤨🤨
"Fixed" is a bit strange here. There was nothing to "fix" regarding Sheldon's backstory. His character was shaped, in part, by his dad's infidelity. This isn't a plot hole or inconsistency. There's nothing to fix. Sheldon's dad was a decent, likable guy. Men like that sometimes have affairs. There's no contradiction there. Good people sometimes do bad things. I don't get this idea that good people can't ever be shown to have significant flaws or doing bad things, that in order to be "good", you have to always be good and never make bad decisions that have serious consequences. Sheldon's dad could be a man who was a good father and, for most of the marriage until he and his wife started to grow apart, a good husband, and still have had an affair. Good people sometimes do bad things. This wouldn't have ruined the character, it would have given him more depth.
I almost wish they hadn’t “fixed” it. Real life is very messy, very contradictory, and good people can sometimes do horrible things. Understanding that your parents are flawed, human individuals who can do both good and bad is a pretty important life lesson for a lot of people having to endure trauma from family in their lives.
George did cheat, in another episode sheldon says that his mom gave the “pre marital s*x” speech to his family, “even to his dad’s girlfriend”. (I dont remember the exact context but he did talked about george’s lover
Always thought it was a shame that young Sheldon didn’t portray the father character as he’s actually presented in big bang. The alcoholic lout as an imbecile could have been the reason Sheldon is so dysfunctional. Instead of the drunken maniac we get the loving and unappreciated father.
It's crazy how the show young sheldon shows the reality of the story of Sheldon growing up instead of us just having his version of things. It's obvious Sheldon being Sheldon sees things only his way, like how he said his brother would bully him all the time when most of the actions his brother took was to care for and look out for him. Or how he painted out his father in various references then we get to see the other side. In big bang theory were always shown Sheldon over exaggerates things to suit his narrative and understanding whether it's for his ego or otherwise. This show builds on that.
Mary literally supported a lot of those comments, like him being a drunk and a cheater. This just isn't the same continuity because they wanted to make it lighter.
The fact that they tried to redeem his father is sad. Him cheating played a role on Sheldon’s life and to take it away is pathetic. God forbid a prequel stays on script.
In the last TBBT episode Sheldon gets congratulation messages from his brother's two different ex wifes. I know, I dig Mandy and Georgie too, but it is not a seperate series, it's a spin off, I really hate the rewriting of the history
@@rplenkers9240 Clever? In what world? Sure, Sheldon's been wrong before but this is a sitcom that's like 2 decades old. Changing that sad storyline into something so utterly brainless is mockworthy.
@@shadenox8164 ugh forgot about that, that makes it even worse. Unless they are just trying to imply Mary assumed George cheated with the neighbor even though he technically didn’t (kind of an emotional affair tho)
After 7 seasons with this character I would do some writing acrobatics too to keep this character like he is portrayed. Kind of like how George RR Martin kept wanting to kill off Tyrian Lannister, but liked the character too much and kept his story going, or how Jesse was supposed to be killed off at the end of season 1 of Breaking Bad but him and Walt's chemistry was too good, or how in the show Chuck, "Captain Awesome" was supposed to be discovered to be a Russian Spy, but the writers liked his character's personality too much to make him turn traitor, arguably making for a better show.
I got goosebumps when they revealed and I felt it was brilliant plot twist I was waiting for the Brenda + George thing since season one because of what I thought I knew because of the Big Bang theory and when they showed us it wasn’t what we were expecting I felt it fit like a glove and was a masterpiece scene! Loved the twist!
I love that the season before we all thought that he will cheat with the neighbor and now we know, that they still love each other and the time they were away make their love strong again (those letters, so romantic, and the photo George send 🥰)
I hope it's the episode before last tbh that way it can lead into the final episode and end the show with Sheldon leaving for California as the show comes to its end though the actors for Older Sheldon and Amy are making an appearance since it will be the last ever episode.
It wasn't just adult Sheldon that recalled his father's cheating... Mary on TBBT refer to George as her "cheating husband". The writers of YS certainly gave it's fans what they wanted though with this resolution.
Tbf with how she is she might have thought he was cheating on her with Brenda whenever he would hang out with her in the chicken coop venting his relationship issues with her like in the previous seasons, so she also could just be assuming he was when he never really did. Or worse case scenario she ends up cheating on him later on and instead starts projecting onto him that he's cheating when she is to justify it but I'd rather it just be the first one were its just a misunderstanding honestly.
They didn’t “fix” it. They ruined it. The fact that Sheldon suffered the trauma of seeing his father cheat on his mother and that he still learned to forgive him and continue to remember him fondly was a big part of Sheldon’s lore. They basically reduced this life altering moment to a blunder. Also the dad had always been portrayed on Big bang as a flawed but ultimately good man. On young Sheldon they made him overly virtuous when they could have given the character lot more layers.
Nope. Because at this point YS and TBBT aren't the same continuity. At this point even Mary's stories about George are wrong, you think she would have talked like that if he was actually like this?
@@AzureKyle i told my son a long time ago that he needs to knock before entering as a part time single dad for the same reason he needs me to knock, with a look that says i know what goes on in there. i do it too.
wait but i don’t understand.. in another episode (the one where sheldon tells his mom he’s living with amy) sheldon says that his mother talked about george jr’s girlfriend, missy’s boyfriend, and GEORGE SR’S OTHER GIRLFRIEND (but that conversation had less christian words) so was he still a cheater??????
I bet that if the writers of YS would have done young HOWARD instead.. they would have say that his father was lost in the amazon jungle with memory issues or prisioner in afghanistan.. to explain why he abandoned his son. LAME!. Old sheldon struggles and loneliness were the main reason to empathize with him (given how annoying and difficult he was)... and to like even more his friends that accept/support him and became his family by choice. To give him an extremely cool and caring family doesn't fit that old sheldon... it just make him an even selfish and annoying jerk. I do like young sheldon.. but as an independent show.. not as a prequel of TBBT.
This completely ruins Sheldon's backstory, what once was a sympathetic and sad story that genuinely caused Sheldon trauma is retconned to simply be a mistake. Lazy storytelling
I really hate this This was a serious scene and they made it into a joke. I know George is such a lovable character, however he can still be love able while doing something morally wrong. I think they should have kept the cheating instead of trying to baby the audience. Good people do bad things all the time and I think this was a bad decision to retcon this
@@shadenox8164 The character the wrote for Young Sheldon, may have issues with his marriage but his character didn't seem as if he would cheat on his wife. And the relationship with the neighbors was a friendship even if she made a pass at him. I don't think he would have taken her up on it. So yes I knew George wouldn't have cheated. Plus it was coming from Sheldon. You didn't know half the stuff going on in his home. He hadn't talked to Georgie in years.
The Big Bang description of Sheldon's family was not positive in the beginning of Big Bang before Young Sheldon came out. Was it even known that Sheldon was a twin before Young Sheldon came out? The original description of Gerorgie was that he was a criminal. These characters developed and for the better. Sheldon talked about his relationship with his grandfather in The Big Bang. He is barely mentioned in Young Sheldon, and it does not seem as if the young kids knew who he was. So things changed as they were developing the show. It seems like they gave Penny the family they were going to give Sheldon.
I'm kind of sad they switched it up like that. Even tho Young Sheldon is a kid show, we knew since TBBT that Sheldons' father cheated. It was an important moment on the show and something that happens regularly in real life. A lot of people would have been able to relate to that. And it shows that good people mess up too.
@@genera1013 it's funny you mention a retcon yet can't admit they changed how it happened as well. Pretty certain Sheldon is going to remember correctly LOCKING EYES with his dad, as well as running to his room. And generally altering such things is to make it LESS traumatic, not worse.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Again. Trauma. Are you a psychologist? Our minds fool us all the time. Especially in cases of trauma. All you did in the first part was repeat yourself.
i hate this so much, to make it a gag instwad of the actual heartbreaking moment literally everyone was anticipating is such a copout, like, so sheldon just thinks his father is a horrible cheater all these years for nothing?
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Everyone missed the fact that Sheldon kept it gangster cause he ain't snitch on pops even tho he thought he cheated
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what season and episode was it?
This person has way too much time on their hands to be making videos like this.
They’re tv shows detective it’s not that deep.
The writers realized that Georges character is so loved by us viewers that they had this genius idea of making sheldons mother roleplay, so Sheldon only assumed he cheated.
They really did that to not ruin the imagine of the character, brilliant.
I thought they would go this route. Having the mother roleplay as a blonde means he may have thought it's next door neighbour. As a religious prude, Mary is not going to correct Sheldon. Also, If Mary was unaware of Sheldon's presence, she would believe the cheating based on George's previous history and not put 2+2 and think the other woman was her. If George dies soon after, she doesn't equate the other woman as being her roleplaying, so she actually does believe he cheated on her based on Sheldons story
I figured that happend anyways
Bravo Vince
Not really. They pussied out
But didn't George actually cheat on his wife with the whole chickens thing?
Honestly it feels even sadder. Sheldon lived the rest of his life thinking his father cheated.
The season finale is said to clear this up.
I was just going to say that.
@@car998Hopefully.
@@car998Of TBBT or YS?
Considering current sheldon still thought his father cheated on his mother (even after he died) :( it was never made clear. Either that or sheldon was too stubborn to accept it.
I love how the writers came up with the idea to clean up George's image before he passed away.
Is called bad retcon
@@capeto08its not bad
It fits with ys George to not cheat
@MKVlogs-oo7tw doesn't fit at all.
The only part that's is common to the story told on TBBT is sheldon walking on his father having sex with an unidentified woman. The rest was changed
@@capeto08 I just saw an old episode when Sheldon tells Penny, "My dad had an affair with a blonde barkeep." Yes, it had to be Rhonda, who else? But they decided to clean it up so that George wouldn't end up like an unlikable character.
it fits now. Boohoo too bad you're wrong lol@@capeto08
Sheldon's father is so VASTLY different from how he often described him on BBT, but honestly I love this version of him more
But it does show us how a misunderstanding might have so tragically altered his view and relationship with his father that he could only see the relationship in the most negative light imaginable.
The difference between Sheldon as a dumb dude in his 20s then looking back after he became a father and realizing what his father was actually doing and saying and playing dumb at times...
And THIS explains how that happened 😂 Sheldon is myopic. We were supposed to take all his stories with a grain of salt.
We all have a different versions of ourselves in someone else's eyes.
Im beyond confused, it is very unlikely he was misremembered as Sheldon kept saying he has eidetic memory and he once said everything he says is the truth implying he never lies. Why is he protrayed very differently from what he described in BBT?
This kind of proves that Sheldon really lives in his own reality
the point is he never discussed about this.this happens.
@@ghgkuhkjhkhhli Because in his head he knew what happened and it would be an uncomfortable conversation
I mean he really is,He always acts and thinks he is the best around and everyone around is wrong, trash, and etc cause literally he mocks engineers for no reason and howards like they are monkeys who only just recently learned to use a wrench I mean the earth thing hate has a bit of justification cause who dfuq cares about rocks whereas arent engineers doing the designs of buildings and shet soo wtf? So yeah sheldon living in his own world is right in every way and aspect
@@mikeruryuji1916that’s because I think apparently he has some type of condition
@@LuisPerez-5no he didn't he was wrong
It's a shame though that Sheldon grew up convinced that his dad cheated on his mom, and never found out the truth
Since YS has voiceovers by adult-Sheldon (who's clearly older than he is in TBBT since he mentions having children), presumably future-Sheldon learned the truth from his mother some time after TBBT ended. Maybe we’ll learn the specifics of that conversation. Maybe not. Either way, he spent decades mistakenly believing that his father cheated.
Anyway it's kinda a plothole cuz Sheldon's mom hated her ex presumably cuz he drank too much and was a shitty husband in the original tbbt
@@gamesgames3318but, if you look in other perspective (*YS viewers perspective), in the series She's a Nut. even tho Mary said she's right or other things but in her eyes she is right. but the story goes with others perspective too
it just a matter of perspective. same with other people too
"Good things come to those who wait" 👁
@@theadamabramsso what really happened on that day he thought his father cheated? also sheldon has children? are they... you know, not like him?
I actually quite like this as a retcon! It greater emphasizes that Sheldon is emotionally vulnerable, tragically to the point that he never confronted his father about something that could’ve been cleared up rather easily.
Not a retcon cause Sheldon's been provin to be an unreliable source
@@danielpritchard510If we see Sheldon in TBBT and YS too he always seemed to me an unreliable source. His view of seeing things is not normal. If something is good for him, it's good else bad. He lacks emotional intelligence since the beginning.
No because it wasn’t spring break and Mary was fired from the church
Soo.... what would make this conversation easy lol
@@NewAdam-cc5wzwhat does bible study have anything to do with working for the church?
I stopped watching YS a while ago, but I am glad they found a way to get around the cheating thing, George was too good of a father to have it ruined that way.
It didn’t ruin lol it’s his wife they doin role-play
thats exactly why he is saying hes glad...
@@Joeljacob12445 Yes that's literally his point..
@@Joeljacob12445they did role play but if you watched or of young Sheldon George did cheat on Mary with Brenda
@whitneyrhodes9602 he should've have left her she was a horrible wife and terrible mother
And it makes sense that Mary is dressed up like an oktoberfest girl - she did just get back after a few months in Germany!! And from the back that blonde wig could look somewhat like Brenda's hair.
Basically Sheldon's version of "I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus"
I was so glad to see that the “other woman” was Mary!! He and Mary had become so sweet together and I just couldn’t bear the thought of him being unfaithful. I just wish Sheldon could have talked with his father. It’s a good lesson for us all.
Fuck Mary. Worst character
Exactly! Especially when they were exchanging letters all I could think of was ohh noo he's supposed to be cheating on her soon
They changed that part because it didn't fit in with George's character in YS.
It would have fit with Brenda tbf I thought he was goi by o actually sleep with her because of all the emotional heating going on.
@@mufaddal2152 Yes, it did. They pussied out.
This is without a doubt, the best misunderstanding Ive ever seen. Throughout the big bang theory, they talk about how dumb and crazy Sheldon‘s father was. But in young Sheldon, it’s almost the opposite. He’s genuinely a caring and honest man.
It just becomes a matter of Sheldon just viewing the world differently
Retcon
@@Kctcreeper Exactly, Sheldon's POV is his reality hardly agrees with someone else's, behaviour not dictated by his logic it's dumb and crazy.
Seeing Sheldon dad in clips and reels was the reason why I started watching young Sheldon. Love that guy
It should be noted that even in BBT, there were TONS of signs that he was a good dad, showing everything he taught to Sheldon and how much he missed his dad.
Sheldon has the mentality of a 5 year old.... and he remembers everything....
So is this implying that the dad never cheated and the mom was just role-playing??
Yes
Fantastic
This has been the theory since the beginning. And he did knock once. But he didn’t wait for an answer. In big band he does wait for answer or someone opens the door.
@@albertelnen9144wait but what about Brenda and George? I thought he cheated with her? And how did Mary cheat then like the video said?
@@WSwarthunder Yeah it wasn't clear in the short with the way they wrote it so I get the misunderstanding. But it doesn't say that Mary cheated it says "It was Mary!" Not meaning that Mary cheated, but meaning that the "other woman" that led Sheldon to think that his father cheated was, in fact, Mary.
Don't know if it's clear so I'll present it as an equation
It was Mary! = Mary was "the other woman"
It's crazy how much more entertaining I find Young Sheldon.
Not really, in a lot of ways, it is a superior show.
I loved BBT and never thought a “spinoff” would be more than a curiosity to me. I was in love with Young Sheldon from the very first episode and did in fact like it more than BBT as the seasons went on. ❤
Cause the main cast, besides Sheldon, are entertaining. Sheldon is annoying in it still, but not as bad as BBT.
Not really. I enjoy it way more then big bang theory because in young sheldon it felt like every episode truly matter
@@motherurck7542
Everyone else is what makes YS such an entertaining show. Sheldon just sours it for me whenever he's on screen.
Im so glad i found this clip. This redemtion of both parents helps so much. Mary is a piece of work too but this shows that she clearly was trying to work on the relationship with her husband.
Im almost tempted to watch young sheldon now.
You should. It’s a good show!
It’s Rlly good and emotion
I like how YS retconned how good George was as a father. Also outlines Sheldon’s emotional immaturity.
So, what fixes the BBT scene that reveals the woman with whom George cheated bought Sheldon action figures to buy his affection. Are we supposed to believe he didn't recognize his own mother giving him action figures? The writers of YS seem to lack enough maturity to actually deal with canon in a straightforward way.
❤
Both big bang their in my eyes crapped on the character, that he was wrong about everything he said happened to him, I think it would have been better and interesting if it was true, but people didn’t believe him because of who is, which is kind of realistic representation.
Nothing was actually retconned. The Whole Show of Young Sheldon was a flashback from Sheldon's perspective. Billy was meant to be a bully but in Sheldon's flashback, he's a brainless idiot. Makes sense right?
@@silkwind7618I don’t remember anyone calling Billy a bully
I've always theorized that Sheldon's father was not really that bad, and that his childhood memories are just warped because he tends to live in his own world
We never see the dog Sheldon talks about in TBBT, the 3 knocks didn't exist in season 1 of TBBT and George should already be dead in YS
Mary was also supposed to leave Sheldon in Germany during the storm
@@Umbzard No, the twins are 13 in the latest season. George dies when they're 14.
@@plumdutchess they're 13? They look and act around 15/16
Exactly sheldon in big bang theory down plays his family constantly calls his brother a loser who sells tyres when reality is he's a extremely successful bussiness man with multiple stores
This was a super creative way to "change" the back story to fit what they had developed. Unlike anything disney touches where they just completely ignore it. Kudos to the writers
they built up to this scene for 7 seasons just to cop out at the last second
Now retcons are called "super creative"? Huh
@@capeto08 the way that they pulled it off was, for a sitcom
I wouldt call creating changing aspect of the original story @@baileycrombie2267
Creative woulde have been sticking to the original elements and pulling of the same results
Dos nobody remember Mary telling Penny "good cooking" will jeep a man faithful but he'll die at 50?
Awesome way of learning why Sheldon first created his compulsive but iconic door knock. 😆😆
Well actually I think the knocking three times was introduced by Sheldon later when lennard was dating the Korean spy and one knock wasn’t enough to let Lennard open the door as he was busy with Kim otherwise .. so Sheldon proceeded knocking further and right after three knocks lennard answered so I think in Sheldon’s head three knocks seemed the way to go for the rest of his life 😄 only in the later seasons the thing with his father cheating was the explanation for the knocking
@@rorylorelai1594he kept adding more and more knocks every time something like that happened I guess
I think they realized that George Sr had become such a beloved character that they needed to change it somehow.
Holy shit they managed to pull it off and NOT have George end up being the bad guy in a classic Sheldon misreading of a situation.
Nop
@@capeto08lol @ “Nop”
@@westmcgee9320??
@@capeto08 it’s not hard to figure out.
Look at what you said.
@@westmcgee9320 is not hard for you to explain whats did you found funny.
that makes more sense, because george is a very sweet man, who loves his family...
No, it doesn't. The writers pussied out because they didn't want to make George unlikable. Despite that fact that Mary is awful and they set up his cheating for like 4 seasons now. It would have been way more impactful to have him cheat and deal with the stress that leads to his heart attack and death. But the writers are cowards.
@@williammccormick984yea but why make a good man into a villain just because of a throw away line in the show and this is a better direction to go because it shows even though sheldon has a perfect memory he can still mess up how he sees things and miss interpreters the situation he can remember everything but it doesn’t mean he knows what’s going on without context.
@@legacyplays6050 Because that wasn't clear from the entire 7 seasons of him misunderstanding social cues? You didn't get enough of that?
They built up the entire character of George to be a cheater eventually, the crux of his character, and turned it into a joke. A fart after 6 plus seasons of buildup.
I don't see why that's hard to understand. They wasted your time. It's weak writing. He's wouldn't be a villain. He's a human being.
They pussied out. Plain and simple.
@@williammccormick984nah this way will make his death even sadder
@@farid-frederick Explain to me how
Ik george would of never cheated he may not be a perfect husband but hes still a good man im gonna be sad when he dies
He is going to die in later year from the heart attack
Would have *
But what about the things he did with Brenda I mean he basically did cheat
@@shakariminor7106 did what
@@Fixer48he went to a bar to drink with Brenda with incitations of "dating" when he had his first non lethal Heart Attack
Next they're gonna tell us that George never died, that he was just "death" to Sheldon 😂
"Somehow, George Cooper returned...."
@@thebighoney9034 DB Cooper hahaha.
boy do I have news for you.. lol.
@@NaNa-cq8ck Do you?
This aged well
i googled for the definition of "cop-out" and this video came up for some reason
Bro when I heard that George cheated on Mary and scarred Sheldon, I was mad, especially since everyone talks about how great the father is, but im glad it is cleared up.
They just copped out.
@@shadenox8164ur just a terrible person if u think a person of his character would suddenly cheat in his home house...
Smh.
Maybe ur the type of person who would do that to ur family... after over 6 years of George being a loving caring father he would never act like you.
They played us so well 😂 with the neighbor and youth pastor last season
Sheldon was damn lucky to have a father like that....
@@wallieb4325 Aren't you trolls supposed to at least *try* to be funny? Your attempt is just pathetic
@@wallieb4325 Out of curiosity ( nah not really, its sarcasm ), why would you blatantly lie like this? Lack of attention? Boredom? Miserable life so you decided to just go around fucking with people by lying?
@@xEmpo04 in the show of the TBBT Sheldon’s stats his dad hung himself suicide means death and your souls goes to hell. Sooooooo what did I lie about
@@wallieb4325 First of all, my guy, it is stated in TBBT that Sheldon dad died of a heart failure, not a suicide, so thats the thing you lied about.
Secondly, even if it wasnt stated in the show, and we would give you the benefit of a doubt that you just somehow remember it wrong, common sense would have already given you enough clues that a COMEDY show wouldnt bring up a heavy subject such as suicide into it. This isnt to say not every comedy show wont but it should at least make you ponder enough to recheck your information about how Sheldon's dad died.
@@wallieb4325 So, i am a guy, and that last statement of yours shows both that youre quite sexist, and thats coming from me, i dont usually even take those things seriously, and it also shows that you dont just find it funny to make people triggered over a show, but just in general. I dont usually waste time trying to talk with a troll, but since you seem like you can still be reasonable, ill do it.
People "losing their mind" over a show, id say its more likely because youre ruining it for them by either spreading false information, or saying "its just a show" etc. People can enjoy a fictional media and be passionate about it, thats a joy for them, the same as you find joy in triggering people for whatever reason. I advise you to stop doing that, because its not a healthy hobby, as its literally finding joy in other people's suffering ( getting triggered and angry in this case ), quite a sadistic and, to be frank, very sadistic, pathetic and miserable. You can listen to me, or you can stop and have stopped reading half way because this is a long paragraph, its your call, but you wont be truly happy just trying to bring people down. I hope you will understand this. I believe youre a good person too. Have a good day, and life.
People in the comments out here thinking the writers did something big and genius, but they really didn't. It's a simple retcon, Sheldon specifically mentioned that it was with Brenda and not just any woman. They realised this and made him not do that anymore.
Maybe the genius thing was making Young Sheldon have more heart, therefore making people see more nuance in the character. Credit where it's due there
He assumed it was Brenda.
When did he say it was Brenda, I specifically remember him saying “another woman”
Please explain
With the blonde wig, and how quickly he ran out of there he very easily could have thought it was Brenda. You have to keep in mind that Sheldon's brain doesn't work like a normal person's. He has an insane IQ and doesn't feel or see things like everyone else does. Being a genius doesn't mean you get everything right. Edison was a genius, but he had to make 99 mistakes before the 100th worked.
I like that young Sheldon is showing his past without his ego or PoV mudding it up, this was a brilliant way to fully illustrate that fact
Now explain why Mary calls him a cheater and how it strained their relationship?
@@shadenox8164 She believed Sheldon without any explanation, because she already had the possibility set in her mind.
I hope Sheldon finds out someday that his father never cheated
Maybe he will find the costume in a box when mom dies. In a tv movie maybe.
@@medicaresolutionsturning6584yaa exactly i also think Mary doesn't want to Sheldon finds out that his father didn't cheat on her
They're not even the same continuity anymore.
an old picture from an album from his vast storage of collections he has.
Well it seems like the whole purpose of the show with Sheldon narrating is because its his auto biography. Maybe his mother reads it and tells him what really happened.
I am happy that they did not spoil George's character. Since, he was such a nice guy, I was having hard time thinking he would do such a thing.
Because "Nice guys" never cheat.
But he was with brenda for sometime
@@zebafarheen6281he really only emotionally cheated with Brenda because both himself and Mart weren't speaking nothing physical ever happened between the two.
@@LawfullSpookcheating is cheating
This isn't the same George as mentioned in TBBT though.
I think they forgot the bit where he said "My father and I locked eyes, I ran to my room and we never ever spoke of it". Specifically, the "My father and I locked eyes" part
what did they forget? the dad didn't think he needed to go tell his son that him and his mom were roleplaying. and Sheldon never confronted him about what he believes was him cheating with anyone ther woman, so the dad had no reason to assume that is what Sheldon thought had happened. the dad knows he woman was his wife, so he had no reason to believe Sheldon thought it was another woman. so the dad believes Sheldon just never talked about the time he walked in on his parents. which is completely normal.
@ge2719 Think you forgot the parts "We locked eyes" and "I ran to my room". Now you can say they still locked eyes but never showed it (even though Sheldon was very quick in and out to even lock eyes successfully and he KNOCKED before entering which would have alerted Mary), but you can't say Sheldon walking out of the house instead of running to his room isn't them forgetting.
And I'll give you why he didn't talk to Sheldon. George isn't one for confrontation or *those* kinds of talks and was probably embarrassed like Sheldon was. But you can't deny those other things I mentioned are glaringly obvious. Plus, again, why didn't Mary turn around? She would have heard Sheldon knock and open the door, both of them would've.
@@S-Maniahave you had sex? Ever? It’s very much plausible Mary didn’t hear him and there wouldn’t really be any reason to talk to Sheldon about what he might’ve saw since he knows more about biology then they did
Well it's not like George would say anything either. From his pov, his son just caught him doing it with his wife. There's no foul play there
@tomatosoup1304 Oh I know that. That scarred Sheldon for life, no telling what George felt. He's not one for uncomfortable talks like that. But Mary definitely is. She would have also heard Sheldon knocking and opening the door and would want to clear up the situation as Sheldon understandably might have thought (and did think) it was another woman and his dad was cheating on her. Right? 🤔
O man ...sheldon thought his father was a cheater and he wasn't 😢.
The amount of shit sheldon talked about his dad during TBBT makes zero sense when you watch Young Sheldon. It doesnt sound like his dad at all.
You can tell by George’s reaction to Mary in that costume that he wouldn’t cheat on her. He was READY! 😂
This makes so much sense 😂 George is too good of a father and husband to cheat on Mary.
Did u forget abt Brenda lmao
There is still the dialog in TBBT where Sheldon mentioned about his father's gf giving him gifts
Its brenda, the neighbouring woman
George kinda took her on a date
Because his mom was wearing a wig, he may have thought it was Brenda.
She looks amazing with the wig
He says that from then on he added extra knocks....but during the initial episodes of TBBT we see Sheldon using single knock.
but this still means that the timeline of George dying is approaching soon 😢
Maybe he faked his death maybe maybe
But wasn't Sheldon supposed to remain in Germany after the tornado? Things are still getting changed, right?
@@lauinrahe did stay for a while he came back months after the tornado
No way he would fake his death in this reality tv sitcom 😭
@@Gummyz25 but he was supposed to remain there alone, with the German lady and the language misunderstandings, after Mary return home
This was brilliant writing.
Ps. Sheldon 20 years later will peep through the window with Howard in the car and see Mary having relations on the couch. HA!!!!! 😂
Uh no it wasn't? They just didn't want to do the harder plot and copped out
Lol I'm not gonna lie George definitely didn't seem like the type to cheat but his death is wats gonna hit hard
At this point, I see TBBT and Young Sheldon as different shows.
Umm... they are different shows.
But same characters appear in both. Do a DNA good job at keeping things making sense and going together just fine.
Retcon is not fixing it. There's also a scene in BBT seasons before where Sheldon talked to Leonard about the disintegration of his parents' marriage and how his father took up with a bottle blonde who tried to buy his affection with action figures. So, even if someone buys into the scene of Mary in a blonde wing that totally looks fake and would've fallen off during sex, who was buying Sheldon action figures? Mary could've bleached her hair blonde and handed Sheldon action figures, and Sheldon would've still recognized it was his own mother giving them to him, therefore it *must* have been another woman with the action figures. This "Young Sheldon" scene is just a pathetic attempt by YS writers to whitewash George, like they've whitewashed much of BBT canon. But to me, since BBT was first, it is canon, and George was a rotten husband/father, and a cheater.
I do like what they did for Sheldon‘s dad in the show because we got so attached to George as a character for being a good dad. He’s trying his best even when he doesn’t fully understand things. But I don’t like the taking away Sheldon‘s character depth, and making it a misunderstanding when in reality, this traumatized him and explained a lot of his behaviours when he was an adult. In Big Bang theory, Sheldon loved his dad, but had a very complex relationship with him because George in Big Bang theory was not the best father to Sheldon. He didn’t understand Sheldon and did get frustrated with Sheldon easily and in the show Mary (older) did call George a cheater, and said, while she did love him and honoured him as her husband, she and him did not have the best relationship as a result of his infidelity and some of his behaviours towards the kids. He was meant to be the standard Texan man in the 80s. At this point, I’m starting to think of young Sheldon as an entirely separate show that has taken away a lot of Sheldon‘s actual backstory from the show in order to make it into something that is more digestible and shows more functional, but loving family, as opposed to the complex nature of adult Sheldon Childhood traumas reflecting in him as an adult. I think that the young Sheldon writers are choosing to ignore some of the times that adult Sheldon would actually break and talk about his childhood and would say what his dad would say to him and some of those things were not nice and truly hurt Sheldon.
This also could be a matter of perspective. The stories Sheldon tells are through his eyes, and he doesn't view the world the same way most people do, so the stories we hear in TBBT are warped by his perception, while YS shows them how they actually were. I can definitely believe, with how awkward talking to Sheldon seems to be in both shows, George tried to give him helpful words of encouragement, but Sheldon viewed them as hurtful and traumatic.
Or it could just be YS writers retconning TBBT to make George a good father figure for a fun and entertaining show, rather than what would have probably ended up more of an upsetting and traumatic show that wouldn't have been as successful. I don't think anyone would want to watch George get drunk and verbally (and possibly physically) abuse Sheldon and his other kids.
I'VE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY FOR A RETCON
At least you admit it is
Not surprised considering you use capslock. More simple people are easier to please.
@@slovnicurling9808lmfao.
The irony for someone who says,
"More simple people" , while TRYING to insulting others😂😂😂
Your simple mind is showing in ur terrible use of English while trying to insult others.😅🤣😅🤣
Yes. Yes. Yes. George senior is innocent.
In YS he is, in TBBT he isn't.
@@shadenox8164umm... lmfao. Same character. Same incident. Sheldon just did not realize it was his mother with his father.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?...🤔🤨🤨
@@Obelov then why does Mary keep saying george is a cheater in tbbt then? lol the writers just got scared of geroge stans
"Fixed" is a bit strange here. There was nothing to "fix" regarding Sheldon's backstory. His character was shaped, in part, by his dad's infidelity. This isn't a plot hole or inconsistency. There's nothing to fix.
Sheldon's dad was a decent, likable guy. Men like that sometimes have affairs. There's no contradiction there. Good people sometimes do bad things.
I don't get this idea that good people can't ever be shown to have significant flaws or doing bad things, that in order to be "good", you have to always be good and never make bad decisions that have serious consequences.
Sheldon's dad could be a man who was a good father and, for most of the marriage until he and his wife started to grow apart, a good husband, and still have had an affair.
Good people sometimes do bad things. This wouldn't have ruined the character, it would have given him more depth.
I almost wish they hadn’t “fixed” it. Real life is very messy, very contradictory, and good people can sometimes do horrible things. Understanding that your parents are flawed, human individuals who can do both good and bad is a pretty important life lesson for a lot of people having to endure trauma from family in their lives.
They wrote George so good and lovable, so they have to make a way out of TBBT canon and I love it!!!
Sucks how sheldon never knew the truth and im surprised he didnt tell his mum that his dad cheated on her
These aren't the same canon anymore. Mary in TBBT confirmed cheating
Oh my god! I called it! I knew it would be Mary with a wig!!
Me too! It was a reasonable explanation and he said he never talked about it, so no explanation.
George did cheat, in another episode sheldon says that his mom gave the “pre marital s*x” speech to his family, “even to his dad’s girlfriend”. (I dont remember the exact context but he did talked about george’s lover
Always thought it was a shame that young Sheldon didn’t portray the father character as he’s actually presented in big bang. The alcoholic lout as an imbecile could have been the reason Sheldon is so dysfunctional. Instead of the drunken maniac we get the loving and unappreciated father.
I like how they made it so that George didn’t cheat , but the story that Sheldon told, he and his dad actually made eye contact
and .... if my son walked in on me and wife roleplaying but never saw the face of woman..........
Perhaps brown eye?
It's crazy how the show young sheldon shows the reality of the story of Sheldon growing up instead of us just having his version of things. It's obvious Sheldon being Sheldon sees things only his way, like how he said his brother would bully him all the time when most of the actions his brother took was to care for and look out for him. Or how he painted out his father in various references then we get to see the other side. In big bang theory were always shown Sheldon over exaggerates things to suit his narrative and understanding whether it's for his ego or otherwise. This show builds on that.
Mary literally supported a lot of those comments, like him being a drunk and a cheater.
This just isn't the same continuity because they wanted to make it lighter.
I was sure it was Brenda
We all did. So happy it was Mary
I was leaning towards Paige's mom (Linda Swanson).
It's funny how the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon had different versions of George. Sheldon really lived in his own world.
The fact that they tried to redeem his father is sad. Him cheating played a role on Sheldon’s life and to take it away is pathetic. God forbid a prequel stays on script.
Now they just gotta find a way to keep Georgie with Mandy
They did, Georgie now owns and runs the tire shop.
@@stevola1012 Yes, but in TBBT, they said that Georgie had been married and divorced twice.
@@bobbuethe1477Hopefully that's Mandy and him going on again off again. For me, Young Sheldon is much better than TBBT and TBBT is pretty good.
They'll break up because he's too young. He will eventually marry someone else, divorce and get back and marry Mandy
In the last TBBT episode Sheldon gets congratulation messages from his brother's two different ex wifes. I know, I dig Mandy and Georgie too, but it is not a seperate series, it's a spin off, I really hate the rewriting of the history
Writers are genius
Yes but no
Nah. Ruining the plotline of such an old show for kiddie viewers is a horrible idea.
I've been saying this for a few years. Maybe I gave them the idea.
@@afailedabortiontf you on about? Its a clever retcon and its not like Sheldon has never been wrong before anyway.
@@rplenkers9240 Clever? In what world? Sure, Sheldon's been wrong before but this is a sitcom that's like 2 decades old. Changing that sad storyline into something so utterly brainless is mockworthy.
writers are cowards, too afraid to do something real so they just washed the story clean
So true. This is a stupid retcon
@@ssgg23 It also villianises TBBT Mary, because now she's lying about her dead husband?
@@shadenox8164 ugh forgot about that, that makes it even worse. Unless they are just trying to imply Mary assumed George cheated with the neighbor even though he technically didn’t (kind of an emotional affair tho)
After 7 seasons with this character I would do some writing acrobatics too to keep this character like he is portrayed. Kind of like how George RR Martin kept wanting to kill off Tyrian Lannister, but liked the character too much and kept his story going, or how Jesse was supposed to be killed off at the end of season 1 of Breaking Bad but him and Walt's chemistry was too good, or how in the show Chuck, "Captain Awesome" was supposed to be discovered to be a Russian Spy, but the writers liked his character's personality too much to make him turn traitor, arguably making for a better show.
I don’t like this retcon because it takes away from the emotional reveal at the end it just felt like a lazy cop out
I got goosebumps when they revealed and I felt it was brilliant plot twist I was waiting for the Brenda + George thing since season one because of what I thought I knew because of the Big Bang theory and when they showed us it wasn’t what we were expecting I felt it fit like a glove and was a masterpiece scene! Loved the twist!
Respect for George 📈
I love that the season before we all thought that he will cheat with the neighbor and now we know, that they still love each other and the time they were away make their love strong again (those letters, so romantic, and the photo George send 🥰)
Sheldon lives in his own world he only sees things from his perspective and he thinks he is always right. It’s no shock he was wrong about this
This is line with Sheldon character, he is smart but also so dumb
But George is dying soon.. 😭
i think they gonna end the season at a very emotional note💔
I hope it's the episode before last tbh that way it can lead into the final episode and end the show with Sheldon leaving for California as the show comes to its end though the actors for Older Sheldon and Amy are making an appearance since it will be the last ever episode.
@@LawfullSpook seems you know the script altogether😂👏🏻👏🏻
The fact that Sheldon never spoke of it to his mom and allow her to clear it up is saddening.
Mary literally calls him a cheating bastard.
@@shadenox8164 Based on Young Sheldon, we see that Mary has many cheating thoughts.
I knew that George cheating sounded like a regrettable storyline. Glad they retconned it
It wasn't just adult Sheldon that recalled his father's cheating... Mary on TBBT refer to George as her "cheating husband". The writers of YS certainly gave it's fans what they wanted though with this resolution.
Tbf with how she is she might have thought he was cheating on her with Brenda whenever he would hang out with her in the chicken coop venting his relationship issues with her like in the previous seasons, so she also could just be assuming he was when he never really did.
Or worse case scenario she ends up cheating on him later on and instead starts projecting onto him that he's cheating when she is to justify it but I'd rather it just be the first one were its just a misunderstanding honestly.
They didn’t “fix” it. They ruined it. The fact that Sheldon suffered the trauma of seeing his father cheat on his mother and that he still learned to forgive him and continue to remember him fondly was a big part of Sheldon’s lore. They basically reduced this life altering moment to a blunder. Also the dad had always been portrayed on Big bang as a flawed but ultimately good man. On young Sheldon they made him overly virtuous when they could have given the character lot more layers.
It also makes TBBT Mary look horrible for lying about her dead husband.
So Sheldon's extra knocks are waste of time for years😂😂
Well, walking in on his parents-even if had realized that it was the two of them-might well have lead him to the same knocking system.
@@theadamabrams Exactly. As he says at the end of the clip, the extra knocks are to give people time to put their pants on.
@@theadamabrams maybe be not, if he realized it was his parents. Because there is not any intimacy there, it's just a role play is happening.
Nope. Because at this point YS and TBBT aren't the same continuity. At this point even Mary's stories about George are wrong, you think she would have talked like that if he was actually like this?
@@AzureKyle i told my son a long time ago that he needs to knock before entering as a part time single dad for the same reason he needs me to knock, with a look that says i know what goes on in there. i do it too.
I was so glad they fixed it!! It would have hurt a lot if George actually cheated on Mary. ❤
They chickened out you mean.
wait but i don’t understand.. in another episode (the one where sheldon tells his mom he’s living with amy) sheldon says that his mother talked about george jr’s girlfriend, missy’s boyfriend, and GEORGE SR’S OTHER GIRLFRIEND (but that conversation had less christian words)
so was he still a cheater??????
I bet that if the writers of YS would have done young HOWARD instead.. they would have say that his father was lost in the amazon jungle with memory issues or prisioner in afghanistan.. to explain why he abandoned his son. LAME!. Old sheldon struggles and loneliness were the main reason to empathize with him (given how annoying and difficult he was)... and to like even more his friends that accept/support him and became his family by choice. To give him an extremely cool and caring family doesn't fit that old sheldon... it just make him an even selfish and annoying jerk.
I do like young sheldon.. but as an independent show.. not as a prequel of TBBT.
Mary wearing a dirndl is something I didn't know I needed.
Bro IS so sad, George died and Sheldon Will always think he cheat his mother when he didnt.
In TBBT he did.
I'm down with all retcons that reveal Sheldon to be a twit.
He really does not understand people and the complexities of relationships. I’m glad George was with Mary.
Next time, we will find out that Beverly Hifstader was actually a caring mother and that Leonard was also exaggerated his childhood
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No, because we have independent evidence of her being a bitch. And Leonard is a far more reliable reporter than Sheldon.
@@teencritik5512
I'm pretty sure we'd find out Stalin was really a great boss to work for before THAT happened.
😂
Thank god. I thought I was the only one who hates adult Sheldon.
O_o Big Bang Theory contradicts itself. He did it because Leonard wouldn’t open the door when he was making out with the spy.
This completely ruins Sheldon's backstory, what once was a sympathetic and sad story that genuinely caused Sheldon trauma is retconned to simply be a mistake. Lazy storytelling
I was so happy that George wasnt a rat bastard. I had been wondering how they were going to resolve that.
In TBBT he was.
Tbbt owes George an apology.
No? YS rewrote the character to something completely different.
🎉🎉🎉 Best twist ever
ok but mary cosplaying.... 👀👀👀
I really hate this
This was a serious scene and they made it into a joke. I know George is such a lovable character, however he can still be love able while doing something morally wrong. I think they should have kept the cheating instead of trying to baby the audience. Good people do bad things all the time and I think this was a bad decision to retcon this
I knew Gerorge never cheated on Mary.
No you didn't you just wanted it to be true and they chickened out.
@@shadenox8164 The character the wrote for Young Sheldon, may have issues with his marriage but his character didn't seem as if he would cheat on his wife. And the relationship with the neighbors was a friendship even if she made a pass at him. I don't think he would have taken her up on it. So yes I knew George wouldn't have cheated. Plus it was coming from Sheldon. You didn't know half the stuff going on in his home. He hadn't talked to Georgie in years.
@@magoo9279 But Mary said that George cheated on her in "The Big Bang Theory". This is just a cop-out.
The Big Bang description of Sheldon's family was not positive in the beginning of Big Bang before Young Sheldon came out. Was it even known that Sheldon was a twin before Young Sheldon came out? The original description of Gerorgie was that he was a criminal. These characters developed and for the better. Sheldon talked about his relationship with his grandfather in The Big Bang. He is barely mentioned in Young Sheldon, and it does not seem as if the young kids knew who he was. So things changed as they were developing the show. It seems like they gave Penny the family they were going to give Sheldon.
@@magoo9279 In the Big Bang Theory, Sheldon said that he and his sister were twins in the first season.
I kept thinking it could've been Brenda, but damn that was the save we never expected...
I'm kind of sad they switched it up like that. Even tho Young Sheldon is a kid show, we knew since TBBT that Sheldons' father cheated. It was an important moment on the show and something that happens regularly in real life. A lot of people would have been able to relate to that.
And it shows that good people mess up too.
Was soo happy and relived it was Mary during the 2nd season I wondered when and if George would cheat so happy it was a misunderstanding.
In Sheldon’s defense Mary to Sheldon’s knowledge was at bible study and last time he checked his mom is not blonde
A retcon and misunderstanding that actually makes sense? I didn't think it was possible!
I don't think it makes sense. He talks about how him and his father locked eyes. I believe he also stated he ran to his room, not ran outside lol.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Oh you mean a child subconsciously altering traumatic memories?
@@genera1013 it's funny you mention a retcon yet can't admit they changed how it happened as well.
Pretty certain Sheldon is going to remember correctly LOCKING EYES with his dad, as well as running to his room.
And generally altering such things is to make it LESS traumatic, not worse.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Again. Trauma. Are you a psychologist? Our minds fool us all the time. Especially in cases of trauma. All you did in the first part was repeat yourself.
@@genera1013 Are you one? No? Guess you can't make assumptions either.
Good job being a hypocrite.
Here’s the problem with that. His mother holds bible study ar home. So if she was at bible study she would be at home.
You know that he probably didn’t know that bible study is cancelled. You can cancel a session or two for certain reasons
Yes and no. Bible study could’ve been at the church as well, or it could’ve been at someone elses home
But in YS, Mary isn’t going to Bible study anymore.
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True. I guess these are two separate universes
Sheldon isn’t an idiot… I mean he is but Mary was in a German costume he didn’t know it was her
@@Romeo089 fine a costume of a stereotype of another race
i hate this so much, to make it a gag instwad of the actual heartbreaking moment literally everyone was anticipating is such a copout, like, so sheldon just thinks his father is a horrible cheater all these years for nothing?
I never thought he did cheat. Even when he tells the story, it has holes. He saw and left. It was well written.
PERFECT retcon
A logical reason that makes sense to change something. It doesnt ruin the story and makes it real.
Exactly!
@@ms.milliner Except it now makes future Mary seem extremely unreasonable? Talking about her cheating husband.