This deck is INSANE NOW... the new Phoenix Force feels OP!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- Phoenix Force just got a major change that makes it feel like one of the most powerful plays in the game when combined with Multiple Man. This deck feels crazy strong.
Decklist: snap.untapped.gg/en/decks/Arn...
Power Estimate: This deck feels very strong right now. It had a monster win and cube rate on my climb. It was already an underrated archetype, and with the recent bug fix for Phoenix Force, it has another way to absolutely steal games rather often. I suspect this will likely be a top tier meta deck once the data on this latest patch has settled.
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0:00 Deck Introduction
3:06 Deck Gameplay
Marvel Snap | This deck is INSANE NOW... the new Phoenix Force feels OP!! - เกม
I used the auto-builder with Phoenix Force and it gave me this exact deck
That speaks volumes for that feature
Lmao i just tried it and it really does
It does because it’s been a deck for a while and the deck builder collects data. From different websites. So it will definitely show you the most popular deck that goes with phoenix force
Literally same
Wish i had nimrod 🙁
You could say that this deck lets you summon multiple larger men.
Wish I could do that irl lol
and that'll allow me on a future turn to summon an even LARGER man
perhaps one made of jade?@@zakmaniscool
If you don't have shuri and/or nimrod, I recommend you try Hulkbuster! If you play it into an empty location and move a pheonixed card into it, the Hulkbuster will merge with the card "before" the move happens, allowing you to get extra mileage out of MM or human torch effects!
You can also do some really tricky stuff with Hulkbuster and Nico like using her to move/destroy/pump a card you already played or using it with her double self effect. Hulkbuster is also good with Deadpool which is a great plan B replacement for Nimrod.
Wouldn the hulk buster remain as a diff card on the location if it is revealed first n cannot merge ?
If you mean move pheonix force into a lane where you play hulk buster, then yes it will merge with pheonix force before multiple man returns to his original lane. I needed to clear that up for myself lol
What if you don't have Nico?
Wasn't this fixed in this patch, rn?
Started playing this game around a month ago you are by far my favorite content creator, love the way you talk through the games and break down the decks. Keep up the amazing work❤
Havent played snap in a while, glad to see you still makimg videos to help me catch up!
Hope your baby is doing well!
LOL I was so busy losing my mind that I matched into you that my brain turned to mush mid game. I had a Shadow King IN HAND the entire time.
GGs, made my night 🙌
Been loving this deck. Ty for bringing it back and updating it
Btw wanted to mention a fun interaction between nico and gamma lab, when nico turns into a hulk via gamma lab, and she had her double power ability up, she goes to a 24 power hulk. :)
24:41 Nico here was on the X2 power spell, if you destroyed this Nico with carnage you would've had an 18 power Nico on turn 4 when you summon it back with Phoenix, or you could make that a 28 power Nico if you played Shuri on 4 and then Phoenix on 5, this 28 power Nico can become a two 56 power Nicos if you played Zola on the Phoenix...
This line is really cool but it rarely happens cause it needs a lot of stars to align at the same time.
You actually had it in this game and I was really sad that you missed it.
That is perfect combo 😮
6:47 "yeah, that's multiple man" lmao, beautiful game
I love this deck because it makes Nimrod viable 😂. Haven't tried it after the bug fix but I can't wait to. Great showcase, thanks
That first game tickled my brain in weird ways ngl.
Regis's thumbnail game continues to be the best in the business
Had a lot of difficulty climbing the last 90 to 100 this season and resorted to this deck as well to get to infinite last week, but i cut out the human torch, nico robin and forge and played magik, enchantress and crystal - and the deck win rate become a lot more stable
all this time I thought they intentionally make the Phoenix interaction that way in order to avoid busted combos and turns out it was a "bug" all along?!
Man your card draw luck amazing since you shared old phoenix deck with Chavez I'm playing this deck even with old Chavez you can't believe how many times i ended up with no cards to play in turn 4 without shuri and Phoenix 😂 this is still my favorite deck to play
32:32 - I can't believe you didn't say "I'm gobblin' up the Goblins"
Man this deck slaps. I just zolad a 38 power torch to smoke em. So much fun
I used auto deck builder for groot and it built me a full discard deck with just groot randomly in there lol
2 hours after you post this and I get three back to back mirror matches lol
I'm convinced Regis has a dev watching his streams. The amount of times he'd say " if I draw X into X it'll be perfect" or " come on X one time" then ends up drawing it is insane lmao.
I tried something very similar early today, however destroy being a pretty popular deck means you mostly just insta lose to it, you have zero control, torch dies to killmonger every time, destroying stuff just buffs their knull and makes their death cheaper. Other than that matchup it's a good deck.
This mixed with the lack haze is scary
Something was definitely odd @ 5:06. Phoenix force not leaving a copy at Shuri's lab? Hmm..
I think that happened because Regis played Ghost Spider before moving Multiple Man. Because of that, MM's effect resolves after being moved by Ghost Spider, so it doesn't see that it was originally at Shuri's Lab.
That second game was downright criminal. 😂
Don’t have niku, so what are some replacements I could slot in for her in this deck?
I think I found my place for marvel snap content 👍💯
Hey, I'm just here for the many ways people pluralize Multiple Mans/Men/Mens.
5:05 it's bugged, why multiple man doesn't added to shuri lab
Afaik it's not a bug, it's ordering. "When this moves" effects happen when the movement resolves, in play order. Since Regis played Ghost Spider before moving the Multiple Man, Ghost-Spider resolved first, moving MM from swer system to muir island, and then when the MM move action resolved the card added a copy to the last place it had been in, which at that point was sewer system. If Regis had moved the MM first, it would've added a copy to Shuri's before being moved by Ghost Spider.
Imagine playing Regis excited to see the stream only for him to call you a bot lol
Totally regretting not grabbing phoenix force now.
Many people feel the same. I'll add that I regret not getting Ravonna instead of Alioth.
We have to agree that Second Dinner's balance and economy is top-notch. /s
Is this playable without ghost spider and Nico? Any ideas for replacements?
I'm glad they fixed this bug; Phoenix Force is super fun.
Haven't played Marvel Snap in a while, is it impossible to get cards out of collectors reserve now? Do i have to wait for spotlights everytime or something.
What's a good replacement for Ghost Spider?
ok hear me out... change Kingpin's ability to: change this location to Fisk Tower" thoughts?
That would be better
What would you use instead of nico?
What can I replace with Nimrod (since I dont have him yet)?
what can i use for nico? i have to wait for the next spotlight to get her.
I actually met you on the ladder. I saw you destroyed Human Torch and threw down phoenix on turn 4 and bounced. you were gonna kill me. 😂
Multiple power descaling by playing ghost spider before moving the PF on the last turns. Always move your multiple man before using ghost spider.
The Multiple Man fix coinciding with the America Chavez rework is unfortunate. I understand why they didn't like Chavez being run in decks that had no intent of playing her, but I'd really want to run her prepatch form in a Phoenix Force deck.
I played against this last night and got absolutely dummied by it on the final turn. It makes a shocking amount of power
The thumbnail is so hard ngl
Really hope this doesn’t become meta this is my favorite deck in snap
Funny, I tried this deck after watching this. Looked fun. Nearly every opponent had their dream combo cards. I really hate the matchmaking in this game. Kills my enthusiasm
Did you know if the location is gamma tag and nico minaru dose bubble you can make the hulk 24
This was good even bugged
I dont have ghost spider is there any other card I can use?
I got to 85 so fast from 60 with this deck. It even can out power shaw decks at times
I had a game where they got an 84 power shaw with Taj-surfer - Odin shenanigans and I still won with a board full of 24 power nimrods (thanks to raft destroyer and pf reviving the same destroyer)
Played this deck and couldn't do the combo once, it bricks a lot. I don't know now if im just unlucky or if the deck is trash
I don't have Shuri or Ghost Spider. My deck version had Dr Strange and Killmonger/ Deadpool, Hulkbuster, Death and Knull (minus the Nim & Zola). Definitely didn't put out the power. I wonder if Galactus would work well?
If you do try Galactus, try to Iron Fist then Shuri on turn 5 into an empty lane. That way your Shuri gets booted out and you get to drop a 10 power Galactus.
In the first match Multiple Man didn't leave a copy when you moved him the first time from the left lane, so you missed out on 30 more power.
Not to mention the 50/50 on the Phoenix Force.
@@jeremiahvillarreal3230so was a 50/50? Great. I was so confused why he seemed confident that he’d hit multipleman with force. Like surely i must be missing something. Guess not xD
17:14 he he he he he he he he he
I played a phoenix force /multiple man/torch deck before the change. And I could only ever draw either the move cards without the destruction part, or the destruction part without the move. I got very annoyed.
What should I put instead of Ghost Spider?
Any card I can substitute for Nico?
I was honestly surprised that the interaction change was listed as a bug fix and not a buff considering that one of phoenix’s strongest synergies is with a card whose entire purpose is to create copies of itself. If this was intended from the start you’d think they would’ve noticed it sooner.
That is why they noted it with the other balance changes rather than the list of bug fixes. It has been noted as a bug since the card released but now that they fixed it they also noted it as a balance change since it's such an impactful fix.
when you play the deck and you still can’t draw both win conditions 😭😭 i hate my luck with draw
I do like Dr strange in this deck another out for moving Nimrod out of Armour/turn 5 ghost spider/strange after phoniex is busted
I often play 0 cards on turn 6 with thos deck lol - but I run task and strange myself
This is exactly what Phoenix Force should of been on release. Those unintentional glitches with multiple man/sinister london imo killed the card and kind of made it really niche. It went from low B tier to the top of A tier borderline S imo.
Don’t make me break out my anti-destroy evo list!
Kinda off topic but why does regis always use the default variant with infinity border on his cards? I don't mind gameplay with him flexing his collection
He said that it makes it easier for people to understand what cards he's playing with the base art
Nooo Regis!! My deck!! What have you done!?
what was wrong with it before? Like what was the bug?
As the main guy who plays the deck, I won't lie the deck is in a worse spot with the bug fix as the loss of America Chavez really REALLY REAAAALLY hurts the consistency of the deck. The Shuri Nimrod portion is way better and that's the thing we should focus on. Phoenix Force is just way too inconsistent. Human Torch feels awful as too many Killmongers are running amok with the Surfer decks. Just not a fan of the Phoenix force rn. But hey glad you had a great showing with the deck Regis.
Came to say the same thing. If you draw the exact right cards in the exact right order you can get an easy win. One your opponent should easily see coming and retreat. More often than not I missed a key card and ended up retreating myself. Nimrod was much more reliable than PF. I have to think the deck would be better focusing on him.
It's only over power if you can actually have pheonix forse copy multiple man I played that same deck for an hour and only did that once i won most games with shuri into nimrod
What has changed from before the new patch?
fck i dont have nico. i heavily regret not pulling her and WBN during their release.
Phoenix merges with a random destroyed card? Why did you destroy both Forge and Multiple Man at the beginning of the video then? Wasnt that too risky?
Wait till you get Hercules. This deck would explode.
Absolutely fiending for some HS vids 😢
Yeah, I know, I'm sorry. Baby Regina has teeth coming in and is miserable and not sleeping well and I am staying up with her, so I'm super behind on everything.
@@RegisKillbin it's all good, it has to be a very stressful time for ya. Marvel Snap does nothing for me, but I'll happily wait for more HS. A week or so might seem like forever in TH-cam time but it's really nothing lol
i cant ever trust phoenix force anymore, everytime i try to play this deck i never get the combos to phoenix a multi man or torch and i seem to get plagued with central park location or yondus everytime i bring it out, i swear im cursed with that card 😭like i literally tried it again after a couple of months and i still get super unlucky.
What is good nico sub?
Nimrod is an elusive card
the romek deck
Why don’t you use your sweet variants in your videos
Can we talk over turn 6 here at 30:32 : he has 2 multiman one left, one middel. He played "spider" right than he draged the left "multi" in the middel and the middel to the left.
After this he played "Venom" left.
Normally i would say you have: 2 "Multi" left "Venom" eat them. You have 2 "Multi" middel and one draged from "spider" to the right. But in this turn was only one "Multi" left and 3 in the middel.
I think it is because of playing spider first and than switch the positions from "multi mans", but why is the "multiman" pulled by "spider", moved from right to the middel and not from right to left?
Because that is where the spider pulled it from. The multiple man copy ends up at the location where the man was most recently, so that is why you have to order your cards so that the multiple man copies before the ghost spider pulls it, if you want to add a copy to the man's original location.
I was confused on this also. Thanks for the explanation.
@@GrapeMousse thanks but this was what I thought also. If I understand you right drag multi Frist than spider?!
@@ar0x754 Yes, that is the best way to do it. Move effects trigger in the same step as on reveals so you need to order them in the order you want them to happen.
Hi everyone! I miss Nico, how can i replace her?
Multiple man & Human torch is OP card
HT is easily countered by Killmonger
@@ciciosweepthe hell do you mean bad take its correct?
@@unkle_jo yeah but as long you have armour It won't destroy it
Then you can't move it, which means the card loses its entire purpose.@@walter_white3247
@@walter_white3247what there's no way you sitting in one location using torch they need to move to get buff
Great fun, but I am too stupid to play this one for more than a 50/50 winrate 😵💫😁
I played this deck for a while there is also another more conditional Victory with X2 Nico spell, this Can grow very Big with shuri, phoenix Zola
Let’s get some auto builder videos soon! 😂
What if you don't have nico
I made a random deck pulling from Multiple Man and it copied this deck list exactly. Weird.
Why is Forge a 1/1 in your deck? Mine is 2/2.
Yeah that not ok hot fix is coming
This deck fun when it hits but I feel like it never does
This list is tough to play right now with the amount of Shadow Kings, Killmongers, Cosmos and the Chavez nerf. Fun list but the current meta just dumpsters Phoenix. Shame, cards fun.
It kinda sucks having a 3 card combo
Still as inconsistent as ever when I'm trying it.
I am missing Nico, that's about it.
😂. Why? Why would they do that? Lol. This is the most "Multiple" that Multiple Man has ever been.
This is absolutely absurd. I hope this doesn't become popular.
Mmmmm. I’m not sure how everyone else is finding this deck but I’d say for me it’s not performing in the current meta.
I’ll be honest with you, this deck really sucks for me. Everybody I’ve played against does a turn five or six Killmonger and I’ve been playing against mostly destroy decks or Discard
This deck isn't OP at all. Gets wrecked by Lockdown, Surfer, and anything else with a Shadow King
Marvel snap likes broken shit
this deck is absolute trash, you depend so much on your draws that you have to retreat like 80% of your games because you drew poorly early turns. If you combo you bust a nut, otherwise... absolutely garbage
and everyone playng this deck today GOD :D