So I Played a 500,000+ Points Warhammer Apocalypse Game! | Warhammer 40,000
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00:00 - Intro
2:15 - Thank Yous
4:15 - The First War
11:20 - Prelude to the Second War
18:58 - Hive Primus
28:08 - Underhive
39:53 - Manufactorum
51:37 - Ostland Shield
1:04:11 - Spirit of Yarrick
1:12:53 - Gardens of Kadesh
1:22:32 - The Deepwoods
1:39:16 - Inquisition Quarantine Zone
1:52:45 - Results
1:57:46 - Summary & Outro - เกม
Perhaps next year the captains and officers should have secret personal objectives - perhaps an imperial officer who wants the areonautica to take heavy casualities to reduce the influence of the imperial navy, or a noble who wants to protect their uncle's promethium refinery more than the shield generator they are meant to be defending.
I would like this. I'm in charge of the Arbites/Penal Legion, and we have been put through the grinder both years 😂
This sounds like a great plan.
Great idea, will take this on board :)
Another really cool idea would be to have an armada table for the orbital defenses. No idea how that would play out though.
You could take this even further-
Salamanders players could be focussed on defending civilians while Black Templars want to take the heads of enemy leaders. I don’t know how you’ve organised it, but if you are recording what armies people are bringing beforehand then you could craft the narrative quite cunningly with this.
Do you have any plans to run large scale events for The Old World?
Super cool idea and execution Mordian. This is peak 40K play, imo, I totally get the importance of competitive/tourney play, but the narrative playing with the guys and having fun is the heart of the hobby.
Couldn't agree more!
The Dark Angels have heard your distress signal. Prepare to be boarded.
"Hooray, it's the Dark Angels!"
-"We've heard you're harbouring the Fallen!"
"Oh no, it's the Dark Angels."
My favourite pickup line in Bugmans Bar
“REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING! AND YOU WILL MAKE IT BACK ALIVE!”
WOOOOOOOO!
Lies
Or better yet, die for the emperor. Like a good guardsman.
My mech suits in the drop ships landing for the assault on the imperial ritual
@@ScottTheBot07 They look phenomenal! Remind me of Edge of Tomorrow.
props to you for not being afraid to make changes and do fun experiments like the Spirit of Yarrick to make the event the best it could be!
20:37 Oh boy that artillery superiority. 2nd year getting shelled to bits by the renegade Baron, and it was glorious. We were doing the maths - attrition rate of 120 penal legionnaires an hour from the basilisks alone. 😂
Don't worry, you can always find more criminals if you look hard enough!
I never got a good overhead shot of the artillery park. How did no one deep strike and attack it?
@@rogue0909 It was just screen out. Our own counter-battery fire was too busy stemming the tides, and putting out fires wherever the Night Lords showed up.
@@rogue0909 30 Tarantula Sentry Turrets were there to prevent that very threat
15:31 look mum I'm famous
I'll never forget you, what a star!🤩👍 so wish you could see my sisters boyfriend your his double😃
one of my favourite moments of the weekend was brainstorming ways to save the under hive after day 1 with the under hive commander, and well... we sure came up with an idea which saved my skin, and at the end of the day that's how I'm forging my narrative at Thanatos my Govonorship must be protected id become a laughing stock back at Pretoria if it goes pair shaped. Side note all available forces are to make all due haste to Hive Secundus - my Royal person demands your fealty and protection. And Emperor forbid if evacuation is necessary, Know that I your Governor shall be brave enough to take the first ship.
Gelt Road is now a state of mind 😂
@@A.Matt.Finish if it works it works 💪
Sounds like an absolutely epic event and a great narrative. Love it!
Cool concept of giving players more freedom in how they can affect the battlefield and overall outcome. Also love the idea of apocalypse at any scale. I've only ever done a 3K point game and I am still planning my first crusade with some friends. But narrative play seems the way to play to me. Thanks for the content and fun, Keep up the good work Mordian, watching from the treasure state here.
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As one of the guardsmen on Ostland, let me say, we really did take every punch the chaos team threw at us, and we wound up to hit back tenfold. The Krieg 150th Artillery Pit and the Marine Detachment is now en route to return to Thanatos
so the empire ended up aiding xeno goals by shoting at pillars on two different boards? that is funny
Haha yep, I think they knew what would happen but they were quite curious to see how it would unfold, which is peak narrative attitude :)
So imperial logic, burn a planet of trees to keep the population in energy😂 classic! Ave imperator, new 40k faction incoming; GREENPEACE!
Congratulations on another epic Apocalypse battle!
I'm aiming my future army building purely on the premise that I'll hopefully be able to attend the next event.
"Primarch-Progenitor, to your glory and the glory of Him on Earth!"
(By the time finished watching the recap the tickets had sold out 🤣)
Definitely would love to join some future event. This looks absolutely amazing. Wonderful job, Mordian, as well as everyone else involved!
Emperor bless you. You guys are what make the game great
Tyranid guy was great fun.
Ive only started watching and have so many questions and im totaly enthralled, narative apocalypse! Winters must have been praying
And so it comes to this… the great battle of our time
Chaos team was devious.
Very! Team Imperium had the tactics/gameplay edge, but team chaos was very sneaky and clever in their own way :)
"we are taking the enemy with us! It is better to die for the emperor than live for yourself!!!!" 37:40
Going to watch this later, but I think it's pretty safe to 'pre-like' it, now!
NO PITY, NO REMORSE, NO FEAR!!
I love the way the chaos team broke the curtain wall.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
You know it’s a good battle when baneblades look small.
The Night Lords of The Nox Mortis will return! Ave Dominus Nox!!
Got a ticket for next year, I'll have to figure out the logistics of coming from the Netherlands with a big army but I'll figure it out
Ferry from Rotterdam to Hull - bring your car along ;)
I love the idea of battling through a giant city in ruin
That looks even more awesome then last year!! I really hope I can find some friends to come over for next years game from Belgium and make a giant roadtrip xD
Excellent summary and some excellent photos here. Well done to all involved.
Shoulda told the Imperium the common sense consequence of destroying pillars. Methinks an Alpharius type swayed their assessments.
They never actually took out any of their own pillars in the end, it was such a laugh though
The campaign season is over for Thanotos, till next year!
The drummer from ACDC made the absolute correct choice, I hope he got extra narrative points for shunning rhe other chaos sacrefices!
Rip fhe McDonald's penal workers....shouldn't have forgotten my straws
Omg! Mordian...I was there playing guard......and I missed meeting you there. You sound older, but your so young looking lol
One minute of silence for the poor lad that in the next tournament would had really needed that combat inefective hopa that it still reamins something in the organization but players maybe not be told about that would be the best IMHO
Amazing! I would love to attend an event like this.
Hey @Mordian Glory.
I would like to introduce the "Tournament Racing community" to the concept of Real combat.
Mordian Corrupted by the chaos ritual, Burn the Heretic.
You outdo yourself sir! This is amazing!
Thank you kindly!
49:41 based chaos side
Good stuff love hearing about these events!🤙👍🦑🦑🦑🦑🦑🦑
Is there a Thanatos one battle report? I really got into the channel about a month after it and would love to see the narrative.
Question regarding how the lists and games are ran. How many points does each person bring and for the turns is it one side goes for an hour than the other or is it player by player (I’m assuming per side)
Little unfortunate not to see much other Xenos besides orks and nids.
"Imperials used a mechanic we gave them to replenish their forces and we didn't like that, so they can't do that again and we penalised them with a major narrative loss.
On an unrelated note, we gave the chaos team a free second wave of attackers because we liked what they did"
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It's not that we didn't like the mechanic, it's just on 1 or 2 boards it created an unfair advantage and definitely had a negative impact on the players fun.
Also it encouraged players in some cases to just throw away their armies because they they could just respawn, removing a lot of the risk/reward.
On some tables it worked well, but it was used to helped a team keep playing without tipping the balance of the game.
But overall, the reinforcements pool mechanic has kinda been unnecessary. It was designed to help players with less points keep playing, and to be honest most people brought way more then they needed.
As a result, we are going to radically scale the back the mechanic to encourage players to manage their resources, but keep it in the back pocket so it can be used in special circumstances.
All of this has been run by the players of the last event and the overwhelming response to the change has been positive :)
@@MordianGlory that is perfectly understandable and logical. My confusion comes from then providing the Ork players on another table a bunch of free reinforcements after they got decimated. It seemed a bit counter to what was happening on the other table.
I know we're lacking a lot of context, but just on the description given on the video it seemed like two conflicting decisions, so I was asking for clarification on the different approaches to these two seemingly similar situations.
@repthe21st66 that's totally fair! To give a little more context, We gave the orks a load of reinforcements because honestly, it would have been over day 1 without it. They got a second wave (which was nowhere near as big on the first wave) to keep the game rolling and to give them opportunities to do some cool narrative stuff, like Gaz fighting a Knight in single combat :) In all honesty this was not even via the Reinforcment mechanic, it was a joint decision made by all captains to give them a lump of extra forces in one go for the second day, and those extra forces did not effect the tables outcome.
In contrast, the manufactorum imperials used the reinforcements mechanic 3 times, and then this was essentially done again using a Super Strat (another mechanic) which got them about an extra 10,000pts. Considering this board was very very closely fought, these extra points were too impactful and there is a chance it changed the outcome of the table. That is absolutely not what the reinforcements are meant for, as essentially one team (the Traitors in this case) has been punished for doing really well, and they did not get any reinforcements themselves because they never really got close to being "combat ineffective ".
Long story short, the point of the reinforcements was to allow people to keep having fun, not to change the outcome. However, it was not working as intended in places so we are scaling it back drastically based on player feedback :)
@@MordianGlory I understand. Thanks for explaining
@@MordianGlory Just an idea for the future (not next) apocalypse games, perhaps giving ALL players 500-1000pts back on the 2nd day would accomplish a similar idea of keeping people in the fight, without inviting gaminess. You should tune the actual point value to whatever the expected minimum loss is, and if anyone takes less losses then that, you could give them some kind of narrative bonus in exchange (which rewards husbanding the resources). That *should* also allow Rapid Reaction to come back. However, Rapid Reaction could also be improved by adding a reinforcement delay (roll for arrival), where the force has to actually *get there* before it can be effective in aiding the defense, which would again promote husbanding of resources in the meantime. You could also have them travel across another table on the way, where possible, with narrative goals of destroying/protecting them before they reach their destination, though its less doable than "roll for arrival."
1:38 look dad! I'm famous!!!
Looking sharp!
@@A.Matt.Finish thanks man!
O7 to all the players who demonstrated sportsmanship, because from the sounds of it, I would have been unimaginably salty at all the narrative shenanigans that popped up halfway. I guess one simply had to be there soaking in the atmosphere in order to see the fun in it.
I get that if a game looks like its going in favour of one side too early, the other side will feel frustrated and lose interest in playing for the next 2-3 days; hence the last minute twists to let them try and snatch some kind of victory from the jaws of defeat. But I can't help but feel frustrated at how one side would play well for 2 days straight, only to get blindsided by some new twist and have all their efforts wasted. I know its churlish for me to complain from an outsider's perspective. None of the actual players had any complaints after all! Still, that's the lingering feeling I had throughout listening to the after action report.
Once again, my hats off to all the players for rolling with it for the sake of making sure everybody had fun. I doubt I could have been anywhere near as gracious XD
I agree.
The whole manufactorum thing rubs me the wrong way. So he is mad that the defending side made more use do remember reinforcement mechanics that he made than chaos did.
@@dennisbatye1932 I am going to copy my reply to another comment here because another person expressed similar concerns regarding the reinforcements stuff :)
"To give a little more context, We gave the orks a load of reinforcements because honestly, it would have been over day 1 without it. They got a second wave (which was nowhere near as big on the first wave) to keep the game rolling and to give them opportunities to do some cool narrative stuff, like Gaz fighting a Knight in single combat :) In all honesty this was not even via the Reinforcment mechanic, it was a joint decision made by all captains to give them a lump of extra forces in one go for the second day, and those extra forces did not effect the tables outcome.
In contrast, the manufactorum imperials used the reinforcements mechanic 3 times, and then this was essentially done again using a Super Strat (another mechanic) which got them about an extra 10,000pts. Considering this board was very very closely fought, these extra points were too impactful and there is a chance it changed the outcome of the table. That is absolutely not what the reinforcements are meant for, as essentially one team (the Traitors in this case) has been punished for doing really well, and they did not get any reinforcements themselves because they never really got close to being "combat ineffective ".
Long story short, the point of the reinforcements was to allow people to keep having fun, not to change the outcome. However, it was not working as intended in places so we are scaling it back drastically based on player feedback :)"
Hope that helps!
@gandalf50shades So to add a bit more context, I believe this is a reflection of how each team approached the event. The Imperial Team had spreadsheets and other documents planning meticulously how to win each board. They had regular team meetings before and during the event to discuss the strategic situation. They made sure the right players and the right armies were on the right tables to give them the best possible chance of a tactical victory on each board.
The chaos team turned up, drank a load of beers and just went with it. They had way less focus on winning the boards and as a result they lost most of the games.
BUT, because they were not so focused on victory or a pre arranged plan, the chaos team on nearly every single board instinctly forged the narrative and just interacted with the story missions more.
What's really interesting is this also happened last year as well! I think it gives real insight into the different types of player in the Warhammer community, and what those different players want out of a game.
Hope that all makes sense and adds some helpful insight :)
What a pretty looking knight in the bottom left 4:00
What if for reinforcements you gave everyone a couple tokens to bring back units? that makes everyone carefully manage their resources without making players be overly conservative.
I dunno just want to help throw ideas out there.
by the few pics of them that I saw, I guess that Tau was on both side of the conflict?
Edit: Wow, tickets are alreard sold out. Damn it.
First shot let’s go babyy
how do you as an imperial guard player not bring any artillery???????????
maybe limiting the super strats to be once per event day would make it less gamey, if the whole team has to be consulted for a superstrat, you better have a good reason
Anyone know what ruleset they used here? Was this current 10th ed, or the latest apocalypse edition? I think that was 2019
Current 10th edition.
Found it!
Do killing nids empower chaos?
So where is Soirana?
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Second!!😅