Should We Make Military Service Mandatory in the USA?

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  • @mikeg9b
    @mikeg9b 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    One thing not mentioned is that when people are forced to do something, they tend to have a bad attitude about it. The people in the military by choice shouldn't have to put up with that.

    • @blitzy_girl
      @blitzy_girl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Michael Gainey in finland you can either choose military service or working for the government owned jobs for 1 year (teaching, taking care of old people etc jobs)

    • @thetrapofthejoker955
      @thetrapofthejoker955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@blitzy_girl let me guess, women don't have to do anything of it?

    • @nickbrock2107
      @nickbrock2107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jokes on you, the people who sign up for it voluntarily hate serving too. But they still do it and are proud of it.

    • @mikeg9b
      @mikeg9b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@nickbrock2107 Why is the joke on me? A lot of people like it. I didn't like it that much, but I stuck with it for 20 years and retired in 2016. I'm 50 years old and I'm getting $2,300 in military retirement pay every month for the rest of my life.

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you don't support the draft like me?

  • @XiaosChannel
    @XiaosChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    "peace isn't old enough to run for president" lol. what a saying. did you invent it?

  • @andybird3956
    @andybird3956 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    In the free market it's more productive to let people pursue what they are good at

    • @jimgritty7064
      @jimgritty7064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except when nazi menace appears

    • @김소희쨔응
      @김소희쨔응 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about a situation where national security isn't strong enough to support free market? Hire mercenery and make strong alliance? Nah I think making it madatory or voluntary depends on country by country. National security is public service/infrastrucure for everything that makes our daily life doable including free market unless you want stronger nation to make others subordinate

    • @andybird3956
      @andybird3956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@김소희쨔응 I agree with you 100% if it was in order to keep your nation stable (instability disrupts the free market) but I don't think that's the case in the USA right now

    • @김소희쨔응
      @김소희쨔응 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andybird3956 I apologize that I thought you are one of those radical leftees

    • @johnwinthrop2702
      @johnwinthrop2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freedom isn't free.

  • @HorrorMetalDnD
    @HorrorMetalDnD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    13th Amendment, Section 1:
    “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
    As far as I’m concerned, forcing law abiding citizens to “serve” in any capacity is both unconstitutional and illiberal.

    • @irony373
      @irony373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      But we need more people to die for corrupt greedy politicians!

    • @TorySlusher
      @TorySlusher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LoL, the Constitution. They abandoned that years ago.

    • @TorySlusher
      @TorySlusher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@irony373 die for finance and hidden MIC. The political class is a dog and pony show.

    • @snehavora3507
      @snehavora3507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Except as a punishment for crime" --------- So what is crime? Being unvaccinated is a crime. Being Latino or black person is a crime. Not paying your credit card debt is a crime. All of these are suitable definitions for crime, and the Govt can always enforce laws to make anything a "crime". Once you have been convicted of that crime, you can be forced to slavery in prison.

  • @StacksFacts
    @StacksFacts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Oh boy, what a question. I signed up for the US Navy in October 2007 and shipped out March 2008 right before the the economy crashed (I got lucky), and I did active duty as a Chinese & Spanish interpreter/intelligence analyst until 2014, and it's amazing to think about how I'd have answered that question differently during those 6 years, and even after.
    Right after boot camp, I think my answer would have been a simple, "no, military service definitely isn't for everyone," just based on how many folks struggled and didn't make it through. The idea of an alternative national service that wasn't the military wouldn't have even crossed my mind at that time (otherwise I might've gone for that instead). A couple of years in though, it DID come to mind and I actually wrote a letter to one of my elected representatives saying, "I believe there should be a mandatory national service requirement!" to which he replied, "nah bruh." At the time I was definitely disappointed in his response, but as time went on and I got older, I realized that actually, a mandatory requirement actually wasn't a great idea -- for the same reasons I didn't think a mandatory draft would be.
    For one, when you force folks to do things that they don't want to do, they might do it... but they won't do it well. That's one of the reasons that the military works so hard in bootcamp (and throughout one's career) to indoctrinate servicemembers. That sacrifice in quality of work, on a national level, could have some major consequences. At least with things like the Peace Corps and Americorps, you have folks who are invested that are doing the thing.
    But another thing is, I've talked to enough folks who did Teach for America who left highly jaded, for reasons very well covered by The Onion: just google "the onion teach for america" and you'll see what I mean. Don't get me wrong, a lot of folks go into it with the best of intentions, but... a lot don't. And flooding the "market," as it were, with not-really-teachers isn't necessarily good for the students OR the volunteers.
    So now, I find myself more in line with AnnMaura: I think we aught to foster a CULTURE of service, rather than mandate it. This can be done as early as middle school, but after as well: my high school had a service requirement to graduation, and I think I had to finish something like 10 hours a year. It's not a lot, but it's a lot more than nothing & has the opportunity to expose people to ideas and places they might never end up at. For me, that was the local Boys and Girls Club, and eventually a county-funded, youth-serving-youth advocacy program. I ultimately clocked way more than 40 hours, and now I'm in grad school to become a librarian and do TH-cam videos to help spread the good word about libraries for their communities. I 100% believe my experience with community service in high school are to blame/thank for where I am now.
    I gotta say, this is probably the first video that popped up on a notification on my phone that I then dashed to my computer to comment to. Well-played, Toussaint (and all the AFS team!)

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you SO much for your well thought out comment. We're glad the video made you think and want to respond!

    • @jimgritty7064
      @jimgritty7064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My country has mandatory military

    • @MarcusCollins69
      @MarcusCollins69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If school in my voluntary of Canada ever starts trying to indoctrinate the military during school to my kids(if I ever have any)
      I'd be pulling them out and home schooling them or getting them a tutor

    • @Deltasquadformingup
      @Deltasquadformingup ปีที่แล้ว

      If america would to do it we'd have like 30 million troops

    • @babecat2000
      @babecat2000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Deltasquadformingupnot really a lot would not go

  • @Brambadger
    @Brambadger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    In this context it might be worth looking at my home country Germany. We used to have mandatory military service until a few years ago. If you didn't want to go to the military for religious and/or ethical reasons you had the option to do a civil service instead, where you would for example work in foster homes and stuff like that.
    When the government decided to change this and get rid of the mandatory military service there was a big public discussion on the pros and cons of that idea.
    Those who were in favor of the mandatory military service said that this idea would connect the military and the public which would cause the military to be more in touch with the people. This should prevent an army that is disconnected and elitist. Also because a lot of men chose the civil service rather than the military service it helped the society as well.
    On the other side, those who wanted to get rid of the mandatory military service said we do not really need this anymore. It would be more effective to have a smaller but more professional army. Many also argued with freedom - here the freedom of the men affected by this to choose what they want to do rather than spending 2 years of doing a job they don't want to do.
    Personally I am mixed about this. On the one hand I think people would care much more about the activities of the military (either good or bad) if they are personally affected by it, i.e. have to fight in the military if necessary. On the other side such a system is expensive and it adds nothing to the efficiency of the military. I also don't think it is a good idea to force people to do military or civil service if they don't really want to.

    • @daraka1754
      @daraka1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bulgaria had Mandatory military service until 2008, and maybe ot will be returned in 2021..

    • @nucleartaco04
      @nucleartaco04 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, not everyone will want to contribute to society. A small portion (eg, drug lords, corrupt politicians, etc) will end up harming society. Think of the inevitable.

  • @DylonMark
    @DylonMark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I support not only repealing the Selective Service Act, but passing a full constitutional ban on conscription with no exceptions.

  • @1996squareenix
    @1996squareenix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    considering the fact that war is now fought more with machines than​ men, this doesn't sound necessary.

    • @joshglover2370
      @joshglover2370 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm thankful for that. Let robots do the dangerous work and keep our brave guys and gals safe! 👍

    • @hungedteddy7971
      @hungedteddy7971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@janitorjohn5746 Also gives them new skills if they choose a particular MOS

    • @normanmonrow7554
      @normanmonrow7554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Military service SHOULD be mandatory, every man should be required to serve their country for at least 10 years, we need a soceity of warriors

    • @normanmonrow7554
      @normanmonrow7554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Brian Mino LOL better to be a 'bootlicker' than a spineless, useless coward whos not capable of killing for his country. Hail Trump.

    • @butterboiii9810
      @butterboiii9810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Norman Monrow Well I’m not capable of killing for my country unless we are actually under attack like WWII. Either way I would never be able to shoot someone because it wouldn’t be the other soldiers fault that the country is at war.

  • @franticranter
    @franticranter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    In the uk, we used to have mandatory service (called national service) that continued after ww2 because we were scared of russia, but we realised it wasn't needed and that we'd need more technical jobs rather than just infantry.

  • @ShawnRavenfire
    @ShawnRavenfire 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Even though we don't have mandatory military service for all citizens, we do have mandatory sign-ups for the draft. (It used to be just men, but now women have to sign up as well.) The usual defense of the draft is that it hasn't been activated since Vietnam, but to me, that raises the question of why have it at all. (It would be like if I walked around with a loaded gun pointed at somebody all day, and my excuse was that I hadn't pulled the trigger recently, so you're "probably" safe.) I think if we were to pass an amendment abolishing the draft, now would be the right time to do it, when we're not reliant on it, and it would be less controversial.
    Also, I always wondered, when people were being drafted into military service, did anyone ever try to object on the grounds of the thirteenth amendment? The amendment was passed to abolish chattel slavery, but if you look at the exact wording, it prohibits "involuntary servitude except as a punishment for crime." It seems to me that military conscription falls under the definition of involuntary servitude.

    • @joefitzgerald2762
      @joefitzgerald2762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Women dont have to sign up. The supreme court ruled it unconstitutional that men had to draft and women didnt, thats all that happened. They are working towards it but as of right now women dont need to register.

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It IS involuntary servitude but don't expect the government to care.
      Whatever the case I'm not fighting. My life, my choice everyone should refuse to fight in fact.

    • @Central_Intelligence_Agency_
      @Central_Intelligence_Agency_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Cacowninja Of course you won’t fight, I understand and respect your point of view. However some are willing to put their civilian lives on hold to defend our country. While others cower behind the American screen of politics and life.

    • @thejarjosh
      @thejarjosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well now that WW3 is possibly starting. NATO won't back down from provoking Russia to protect its den of corruption in Ukraine.
      I personally think if the US tries to draft people when there is this much anger and distrust towards it from the 2020 election abnormalities to the covid lies and trying to cover up the lab leak theory, that the US will find itself with a fight at home as the 2nd American Revolution starts. That or many states secede and fight the federal government to put an end to it once and for all.

    • @eliasziad7864
      @eliasziad7864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, woke US army would get obliterated if they had women in their ranks...

  • @macvena
    @macvena 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Young people might benefit from doing public service, but it's likely too cost prohibitive, most aren't qualified, many just couldn't cut it, many wouldn't do it.
    Conscription is understandable in the event of a national crisis, but volunteers simply make better servicemen.
    If you need to be made to work, fight, or serve in some fashion, then you probably aren't actually mature or responsible enough to be trustworthy and useful.

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for these points Mac Vena! We appreciate you adding to the conversation. -Scratchy The Eagle

  • @username5502
    @username5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Forcing people against their will to fight for a country they don’t necessarily care about just because they were born in that specific country violates human rights and is forced labour. Military service should be 100% optional and NEVER compulsory!

    • @gforce97
      @gforce97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordfoxgamingyt5579 oh shutup boomer!

    • @justinratcliffe947
      @justinratcliffe947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen. Someone with a brain in their head

    • @nhatan2511
      @nhatan2511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @USAFORBETTER
      @USAFORBETTER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xavierlauzac5922 no just cause you don’t want to serve. Not being forced to serve is a privilege. For what I understand these woke mindsets let the young kids complain about their many freedoms. Maybe some discipline would be good. They’ll be fighting for something. And they’ll learn to value the USA more because they fought for it. Mandatory military service raises nationalism.

    • @BIGDADDYRAY18
      @BIGDADDYRAY18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@USAFORBETTER how could anybody agree with that statement

  • @robertstarkey5828
    @robertstarkey5828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Women should be required to serve as nurses. They shouldn't have to serve in a combat situation.

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They shouldn't be required to do anything, nobody should.

    • @justinratcliffe947
      @justinratcliffe947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Youre sexist

  • @rebeccaanne9863
    @rebeccaanne9863 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I am against government mandated anything and as Barry mentioned already a standing army is unconstitutional except in times of war. So, I'll say no to mandatory military service. But I would like to see more people involved in civic services. So how about instead of making civic service compulsory we make it rewarding? Oh, wait we already do! I'm currently looking into a few volunteer opportunities that would forgive part of the student loans I so stupidly incurred. Maybe the government should be more concerned with making the citizens aware of the benefits of Civic Service rather than making it mandatory?

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good points! Thanks for your thoughts!

    • @sashes375
      @sashes375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution of the United States
      The Congress shall have Power...
      To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
      To provide and maintain a Navy;
      To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
      To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
      To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

  • @sampawli7985
    @sampawli7985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think that establishing an expectation of non-military service could be a good idea, and integrating it into public education could be one way to implement it. If high school students spent a week out of every year helping out around their local community, it could do some real good both in terms of helping the community and helping the students develop as individuals.
    For example, in my high school (a private school located near the city) we would have "service retreats" as a class one or two times a year. Basically, we got divided into teams of 5 or 6 students and were sent to various charities and non-profits in the surrounding community to help out for a day. It was fun, and it gave me a better appreciation of the community outside of how I typically experienced it.

  • @markburks9084
    @markburks9084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is another way to ensure young men get responsible gun ownership training among learning other values that many young people aren’t getting from their parents.

  • @XiaosChannel
    @XiaosChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    and what a great video with a diverse range of perspectives. thank you! I'm not american but it's interesting to learn about it.

  • @cjthibeau4843
    @cjthibeau4843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Peace in America is not even old enough to run for President.
    Damn, that's powerful.
    Also no mandatory military, end military industrial complexes and new age neo imperialism

  • @chandlersleziak6416
    @chandlersleziak6416 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If anything we don't need any kind of "mandatory service" unless if it truly was/is necessary for the better of our country and or our allies. If anything people should just be allowed to do whatever they are good at without having to "serve" for the government. If anything we "serve" each other by helping our economy out by working, not by serving for the government and throwing away our lives for our government. If we want to serve our country, then we must do so on the economic scale, not by the government scale. If our economy is great, then our country is stronger.

  • @gardevoirtrainer4526
    @gardevoirtrainer4526 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    All drafts and national services should be voluntary. Who's going to be a better soldier or community worker, someone who wants to of their own volition or someone who's forced to against their will?

    • @bladedninja8853
      @bladedninja8853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you meant to say "someone voluntary"?

    • @Yosyjr10
      @Yosyjr10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And you can't have sjws that are against guns go to wars.

    • @jeffrose2105
      @jeffrose2105 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww need a Draft and they dumb comments about Left and Right are just dumb that why we need a Draft lost a losers who want to fight there own people let’s send you off to fight eve because we’re we send you there will be plenty of it.

    • @rari2xx
      @rari2xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffrose2105 ?

    • @jeffrose2105
      @jeffrose2105 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rari2xx $

  • @Ibeturhot42069
    @Ibeturhot42069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Short answer is no, long answer is hell no!

  • @ignacioc.delacruz1042
    @ignacioc.delacruz1042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm happy that the US does not mandate military service. I for one would have objected against it. I do not believe that the US should never reinstate the draft because they will simply force and drag people who do not want to be in the military and this will in turn cause resentment.

    • @snehavora3507
      @snehavora3507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would cause a Civil War that would provide the perfect opportunity for Russa, North Korea, Iran to attack US when it sees its enemy weakened from inside.

  • @robertlytle5574
    @robertlytle5574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No matter what we did, the rich, powerful, and upper class people would find a way to keep their kids out of the military. Look at the draft during Vietnam. The vast majority of those who served were from the lower middle class, the lower class, and the boys from the rural areas. Those in the upper middle class and upper class were for the most part found ways to avoid serving.
    USMC 1969-1971

    • @ireneswackyjournals8810
      @ireneswackyjournals8810 ปีที่แล้ว

      But that’s because we didn’t shame them. 1940s World War II shamed men if they didn’t go to war. This is how it should have been for Vietnam. The country started having issues in the 60s and 70s and then came Reagan and we are in this hole. Btw same applies to tax

  • @torche72
    @torche72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What right do you have to force two years of servitude onto others? Nope

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have the barrel of gun and prison

    • @MarcusCollins69
      @MarcusCollins69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdamSmith-gs2dv prison it is for me

    • @danielpearse9875
      @danielpearse9875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdamSmith-gs2dv A gun? Yes please.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarcusCollins69Feeble mind

  • @4knewt505
    @4knewt505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Say It Loud brought me here, but I stayed because this content is pure intelligence!

  • @omabrax0555
    @omabrax0555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This sound like federal service from Starship Troopers
    "Would you like to know more"

  • @YoFreshWiggy
    @YoFreshWiggy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hmmm... There's more Peace now then there ever has been in human history; so much Peace that there's mutiple countries with out an army to conscritp for.

  • @jonathankrailler1255
    @jonathankrailler1255 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think we need a better system of tracking and acknowledging community service and volunteer work. Also if there were any monetary benefit to social work such as decreased insurance rates or low interest loans I think more people would take part, but currently almost no institution cares whether someone has performed volunteer work.

  • @-_-353-_-
    @-_-353-_- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let’s just say that forcing doesn’t end well

  • @jackdamenace13
    @jackdamenace13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I’m not fighting for the rich man’s stock accounts. Draft Dodger for life!

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do you agree with Ron Paul, when he called "conscription and drafting a totalitarian idea"?

    • @falconJB
      @falconJB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Conscription and drafting are forms of enslavement.

    • @jackdamenace13
      @jackdamenace13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      America From Scratch 100% They’ve been exploiting the poor and bailing out the rich since the Civil War. Even war hawks like John McCain acknowledge it now. Good Question to ask.

    • @derianschmidt7252
      @derianschmidt7252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's a very good excuse to escape the guilt of not helping your nation

    • @o.h2202
      @o.h2202 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falconJB Here in Finland we have conscription and Putin as our neighbour. Do you think its still enslavement? Same goes for South Korea. DPRK would enslave them If they didint have suchs as big military. I think If being deployed overseas was only volunteerly then i think conscription vould work in USA. And public service vould Be alternative to military service. You learn lots of useful stuff and gives you new mentality. USA allso has a lot of enemies.

  • @AaronJShay
    @AaronJShay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Considering how much our country's infrastructure and parks are disintegrating, a national service mandate, perhaps incentivized rather than required, would be a boon for the USA.
    But we'd have to get funding for it, first. And right now, the military is soaking up all of the funding for necessary civil projects. Little of that military spending is actually going to paying soldiers fairly for their labor nor supporting them once they return to civilian life.

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think shifting that military money to more domestic service would be a good thing?

    • @AaronJShay
      @AaronJShay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely. So much of our military money goes towards fighting interventionist wars overseas and maintaining bases where we desire influence, not to mention private military contracts.
      Our military spending is out of control and no politician seems able to bring sense into its budget, regardless of party.

  • @ubcroel4022
    @ubcroel4022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hell no, conscript armies are always awful.

  • @LetAmericaBurn
    @LetAmericaBurn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will never comply with a draft or fight in a war. I am not property of the U.S government, and I have no obligation to fight.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pathetic. Bet you love your freedom to type on your little screen from your bedroom, but you aren't willing to do anything about it.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @NewCoke-PepsiMan84I'm not your "bruh", and you wouldn't know zionism if it was right in front of your eyes. The media has your feelings in a bunch.

    • @babecat2000
      @babecat2000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bbqpitmaster1324pathetic war monger. Forcing people to fight is immoral.

  • @crimson90
    @crimson90 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    No.

    • @Soumya_Mukherjee
      @Soumya_Mukherjee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Any reason?

    • @edwardliu111
      @edwardliu111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the question postulates that if we made America from scratch TODAY. As has been repeatedly pointed out, it'd be impossible to fund such an endeavor and furthermore, there'd simply be no need for it. However, as an aside, I do think we should become more knowledgable of both what our military is doing and what it's like to be in the military. I believe a large part of the difficulty of going back into civilian life is just losing that unit cohesion and closeness that you become accustomed to.

    • @edwardliu111
      @edwardliu111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PART 2 I don't think we should any sort of national service that is mandatory. We are citizens and we pay our taxes, we vote and help drive the country forward, culutrally, economically and politically (hopefully). We already pay our dues by paying taxes and obeying laws. I don't think it's really the government's place to demand that we forfeit our time for the benefit of the country without any compensation. I thik the free market has its problems sure but I don't believe in taking away young people from the job market or denying them their free time/youth in the name of a potentially good cause is wise.

    • @Will-xl7xp
      @Will-xl7xp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it builds unity among us all.

  • @romanhoptlite8532
    @romanhoptlite8532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nope to mandatory conscription, but, what about mandatory government service, I think yes

  • @HeyJaymye
    @HeyJaymye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Service opportunities can be increased by defunding the military and reallocating those funds to things we can do here in America as a post to overseas. We keep fighting useless wars in the wars are simply not popular yet we continue to fight, why? The funding easily be used to find service work here they could rebuild our infrastructure, educate the most populous and create new jobs with fair wages.

  • @dragonspight
    @dragonspight 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Providing a national service is a wonderful opportunity for all young adults. It's the perfect counterpart to tertiary education. Making it universally mandatory would be a bit much, though. I think what would work well is expanding tuition benefits of college to those who take a year to do some sort of public service rather than just military service, or even requiring public service before you can get federal student loans and grants.

  • @RonanWan4032
    @RonanWan4032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God bless America from Australia💙

  • @Talik13
    @Talik13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Patriotism for no reason is dangerous, and being proud of your country simply because you served in it's military is almost tribal. One should not be proud simply for being part of, there needs to be worth found/earned before you can be proud to be a part of something. That's why choice is better than mandatory military service (in times where we aren't needed). That's why so many veterans are proud of their service and I am proud of them. Because they found worth or reason to serve, not because they had to.

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great point! Any ideas on how we get more citizens to find that worth?

    • @Talik13
      @Talik13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately I don't think it's anything quick or easy. Appreciation tends to come from knowing what you have and don't have, as well as how you perceive your own happiness and quality of life. And in a country so large that can be hard to pin down. Ultimately it comes down to keeping people happy, like any civilization-building game.
      However I think it's more important to value other people than the land you live on.

  • @swordwhale1
    @swordwhale1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I strongly feel many people are utterly unsuited to military service (me, for one). It may be physical or mental but some do NOT belong there. Perhaps another sort of "service to country" as a young person would be a good way to contribute to society.

  • @ericvilas
    @ericvilas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While I agree that mandatory community service of some sort (definitely not military service though) would help foster a sense of caring for the place you live in (and I agree with AnnMaura about the "social expectation is better than government mandate" idea), I think we need to think about how it would impact people who can't do it before we implement it, in the same way that people who can't pass a physical exam can't be drafted into the military in most countries with a draft. Allow varied options and accomodations so that, say, someone with physical disabilities doesn't need to walk around in the heat picking up trash, someone with mental disabilities doesn't have to constantly be overwhelmed with deadlines, stuff like that.
    Other than that, it's a neat idea!

    • @tannerwilson4843
      @tannerwilson4843 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Eric Vilas We don’t want mandatory service for anything.

  • @Gillestrations
    @Gillestrations 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We didn't really have time to tackle it this episode, but I also wonder what would be the best age range for mandatory service. When we toss out this idea, most people assume we're talking 18-24-ish, but what if it was older? 40-50-ish? How would that change things? Or perhaps one year out of every decade? Maybe we'll do another on that aspect of it someday...

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes let's send 40-50 years who are fat and have tons of health issues into the military great idea!

  • @sunnyboi2461
    @sunnyboi2461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Answer: No

  • @aaronanderson8268
    @aaronanderson8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes we should still have a draft

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically we do. We just don't use it because it's not necessary. The military has changed and is too technical now to have amateur soldiers.

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Claire Francis you claim to be a feminist, but you are clearly against equal rights for men and women.

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Claire Francis yes, but those are still generalizations. Do you believe ALL men are the same? Do you believe ALL women are the same? We are not all interchangeable, which is why gender roles will never be ideal.

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Claire Francis plus, being against equality of the sexes makes you, by definition, not a feminist.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xavierlauzac5922Sounds to me exactly why gender roles are precisely ideal. Men and women are NOT the same.

  • @infected7258
    @infected7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe everyone should do at least 2 years of some sort of Military Service, simply because the military will teach the average American a lot of useful things they can use in life

    • @infected7258
      @infected7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavierlauzac5922 and you have to defend those rights by fighting for your country

    • @infected7258
      @infected7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavierlauzac5922 because people fought to protect those rights, and make sure no other country invades you, this is exactly my point, you have no love for your country, I’m Mexican American and I would give my life to protect the people from this country, no matter what ideas they have, that’s the beauty of US you have freedom thanks to those who serve and protect our Nation

    • @infected7258
      @infected7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavierlauzac5922 you have all those rights thanks to the Military, being in the military doesn’t mean having a weapon and fighting, but as we have seen in Ukraine we all need to be prepared, also If you’re 18 you have to sign up for selective Service or the Draft.

    • @infected7258
      @infected7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavierlauzac5922 by your statement you have showed to have no love for your country, if you’re not willing to fight for those freedoms why do we have them? They’re not there for nothing, they are there because people have their life and fought for us to have them, we should do the same, plus all the stupidity going around in our country will be erased if we just had a little discipline and a little military bearing

    • @infected7258
      @infected7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavierlauzac5922 the reason this country has lasted that long is because people willing to fight for what they believe, and that’s freedom

  • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
    @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering I'm not even qualified to be on a jury (I have autism and anxiety as a result of said autism) I doubt the military or any "mandatory service" will want me

  • @TalysAlankil
    @TalysAlankil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The dude going "when the economy gets bad more people turn to the military as an option"…sounds like a problem with capitalism not a perk of the military lmao

    • @philibertlehardi8054
      @philibertlehardi8054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So if we abolish capitalism we can abolish the military as well

  • @JarrodBaniqued
    @JarrodBaniqued 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Certain countries like Russia and Singapore have only 11 grades in their education systems after kindergarten. I would suggest that Congress pass a law allowing the option of one year of national service (or a higher-paying apprenticeship in the private sector) in place of twelfth grade, if students pass a high school exit/matriculation exam early, meaning their spots at college are saved for one year. If not, then I’ll accept the usual proposal of two years of national service after the eighteenth birthday.

  • @qposton25
    @qposton25 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In today's political climate the default of the government seems to be restricting the rights of its citizens more and more every year. In a nation full of soldiers the government would be more apprehensive to squeeze and squeeze the population. Many have forgotten this country was founded by people who overthrew an oppressive monarchy . At least that's the story that was told to me.

  • @rickness1706
    @rickness1706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am from New Zealand and we don't have national sevices or army drafts as such but we have a limited draft sevices for six to eight week's. But that would good for the young people to keep them out of the gangs off drugs and out of prison. Draft is a good thing that would help the unemployed as well.

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes away from essential liberty. It’s forced labor.

    • @GhostOfArtBell0935
      @GhostOfArtBell0935 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to be in the Army. Then Labour came along. Wanna force me to get the clot shot? Pass. Chinese already own most of Auckland too. Whats the point?
      Boomers should go and fight. Its their stupid system and values that are dying.

  • @Strega222
    @Strega222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Making national service a requirement necessarily rests upon the notion that human beings belong to the state. Government is an evil we have to tolerate to some extent because anarchy would be worse; but fostering an environment "national cohesion" or "unity" is not a legitimate function of the state, much less pushing me toward what it would define as a "fulfilling" life.

    • @username5502
      @username5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly, the government always abuse their power and do what ever they like to people against the people’s will which is very undemocratic and wrong! I would much rather have an anarchy!

    • @sashes375
      @sashes375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution of the United States
      The Congress shall have Power...
      To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
      To provide and maintain a Navy;
      To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
      To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
      To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

  • @deborahpollitt7533
    @deborahpollitt7533 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    During my childhood I was a military brat and as an adult was a Vietnam era veteran. The opportunity live within diverse communities here and aboard has prepared me with the necessary 21st century skill of with diversity. My service gave my job transferrable to civilian life, as well as directing, instructing, and organizing skills. The country would benefit from the public service of our citizens. And the experience of living and working with people raised differently is an opportunity for learn about each other.
    E
    Most importantly few citizens would be indifferent to the sacrifices of military personnel and their families if more citizens served. If the draft returned for all able bodied adults more ppl would be effected when troops are sent to occupations or wars.

    • @janefelix3821
      @janefelix3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Problem is there are around 4.3 million who turn 18 each year, so if there is a 2 year commitment that is about 8.6 million. That is about four times the size of today's force, including reserves so how can that be handled? There is talk about a National Service, the commission on that concluded their 3 year study last March and suggested that all Americans do some sort of service, where the military is just one option, they know forcing someone into the military is not practical or realistic today.

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nobody is entitled to my labor not even the government.

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No conscription.

  • @moogiibat5845
    @moogiibat5845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Public service is a great idea.

  • @bereftspud279
    @bereftspud279 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would you like to know more?
    -> Yes
    -> No

    • @irony373
      @irony373 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this a starship troopers reference?

    • @unit97thinblueline20
      @unit97thinblueline20 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      irony yup 😂😂😂 it looks like we’re heading for that kind of future

    • @irony373
      @irony373 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unit97thinblueline20 well ig a good bug is a dead bug

  • @ipomoea3067
    @ipomoea3067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree with mandatory military service (though I like the idea of a mandatory civil service that allows exceptions for disabled people and those in critically important jobs), but it is true that Americans as a whole have no idea what it's like to be in the military. I think people tend to view those who join the military either as infallible heroes or violent monsters and forget that they are imperfect, human, and often experience moral injury from any violence they inflict even if they thought it was the right thing to do at the time. I don't think mandatory military service is the right response to this disconnect, but it would be nice to do something to shift American culture towards a more down-to-earth and compassionate view of veterans.

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We really appreciate that you entertained this idea and were able to think about it critically!

  • @andrewrockwell1282
    @andrewrockwell1282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The term service is loaded.
    If you are getting paid (at least well paid), is it service?
    In times of economic hardship more people turn to military employment. It is a guaranteed steady job with pay and benefits. Is that service?

  • @MechanicWolf85
    @MechanicWolf85 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not just give military experience and training, you know like a boy/girl scout, they don't have to join the military but they have the basic experience
    Experience alone helps alot keeping a society active and healthy since you want to promote fitness and cooperation

  • @DuluthTW
    @DuluthTW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned so much from this video. Thanks!

  • @animecity9678
    @animecity9678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell no

  • @poison3602
    @poison3602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well it would solve obesity in the states and probably immigration.

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't need the military to solve that.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CacowninjaBetter ideas?

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bbqpitmaster1324It's at people's discretion on how to be healthy plus discrimination has been used as a scapegoat for years for society being out of whack.
      You know rather than the actual problem of government policy like with the drug war.
      If people want to not be obese they can exercise and if people want defense against bad people immigrant or not they can be armed.

  • @aritakalo8011
    @aritakalo8011 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big problem of voluntary military is that it detaches large portion of society from the horrors of war. Thus making war more likely. If one has all volunteer military one can send them around for flimsy reasons, because the public isn't affected. The professionals are paid to not protest and "you volunteered".
    Conscious objectors are actually kinda important part of conscription systems, even though the military might not admit it. They keep the pulse and balance of "should we be fighting this war". Because even under conscription in modern democracy one can't really force the people to fight. If they have hard enough reason, they will just conscious object and then possibly get a prison sentence. If lots of people are willing to choose this or do other dodging, well that is pretty good indication nation shouldn't be fighting the war in first place.
    Where as in professional military there is no such safety valve of making sure the military isn't used for bad reasons or too lightly. Instead there is the rather bizarre incentive of "well more war is good, that means more bonus pay and career promotions".
    War shouldn't be a career ladder. It should be a burden to whole society. Otherwise we fight too many wars for bad reasons.

  • @zedfan4598
    @zedfan4598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Conscription is slavery.......... any questions?

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No questions, a statement: You're wrong.

    • @zedfan4598
      @zedfan4598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bbqpitmaster1324 No, you are wrong. Conscription is slavery.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zedfan4598Is primary school slavery?

    • @zedfan4598
      @zedfan4598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bbqpitmaster1324 Have you served?

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zedfan4598Answer my question, and we'll talk.

  • @rhlopez2694
    @rhlopez2694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching propaganda movies in boot camp. But, I was happy to because it was a break from the abuse.

  • @dabberdaffy256
    @dabberdaffy256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That how you get a military made up of 300 million meat shields

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BS. That's a way to teach millions of young adults patriotism and skills. The last people on the front lines will be the compulsory recruits.

    • @babecat2000
      @babecat2000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@bbqpitmaster1324nope forced military service makes poor soldiers

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@babecat2000 Nope, makes disciplined men.

    • @babecat2000
      @babecat2000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bbqpitmaster1324 wrong look up vietnam war drafts and how people protested it. I bet a lot of people drafted didn't do a good job.

  • @scootertooter6874
    @scootertooter6874 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe we should have it...and yes, I was in the military 29 years-- 4.5 active, 24.5 reserve. Should be two years service in the Army or Marine Corps, 4 years in the Navy or AF, due to the greater cost of technical training in the latter two branches. However, my rationale has nothing to do with national security or military readiness...Rather, American society is currently a declining, fragmented "soup sandwich" purposely divided into special interest "victim" groups who are pitted against each other for the gain of politicians. We need a catalyst to provide a common experience under adversity for the bulk of the population, so that most people are forced at a young age to take responibility for their actions, work towards a common goal with others, and exhibit signs of maturity before the age of 45 or 50. The Peace Corps, manning a soup kitchen, or singing Krishna songs at the airport should not be an alternative offered to national serivce...while worthy endeavors, they wouldn't require the level of intensity, disicpline and teamwork the military could bring into the little snowflakes' lives in a short period of time.

  • @CHULAIa4-6667
    @CHULAIa4-6667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not everyone can take orders nowadays, they play the blame game of your picking on me. It takes a certain breed to want to go into the military. Look what’s going on at the colleges today with all these protest, they wouldn’t last a day in Boot Camp. I enlisted in the Marines in April of 1965 while it was still in high school and went active on JULY 1st 1965. I spent 19 months in Vietnam and got discharged in April of 1969. I don’t regret it one bit, it made me a better person and was proud to serve.

  • @infroma6745
    @infroma6745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For things like Northwoods operation and Iraq war, people don't want to go to the conscription.

  • @douira
    @douira 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a hybrid service would be acceptable

  • @falconJB
    @falconJB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We we force people to labor or kill against their will, NO.

  • @daveotuwa5596
    @daveotuwa5596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    North Korea and other Asian nations have been subject to it for a very long time since the negative ages (B.C. years). What is feels like to be transported back to the Old Testament if military fighting weren't modernized.

    • @daveotuwa5596
      @daveotuwa5596 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean Joshua, Esther and the books in between.

  • @miketrudelle769
    @miketrudelle769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please help vets or v.a. hospitals. I herd the vetern suicide is 50 a day. Not good. I hate texting.

  • @recession2009
    @recession2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad this conversation is being held- I only hope it’ll be part of our discourse on a normal basis so that we can reimagine civic engagement in the US. We’re too divided at this point in time, hopefully national service can bring us together. As a Return Peace Corps Volunteer, I also hope our society will be expected to uphold service on some capacity.
    Also- someone pls educate me here... but when we talk about military conscription, is this with the expectation that conscripts will engage in combat roles? I’m sure there’s more to military service than that (education and pipeline recruitment to high paying jobs in the private sector) or that may very well be the idealist in me...
    thank you for providing this forum! great video

  • @ardi1606
    @ardi1606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely, too many snowflakes these days.

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you want all those snowflakes defending our country?

    • @ardi1606
      @ardi1606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shrimpflea Service mandatory would make them realize this world isn't as beautiful as disney.

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shrimpfleaDo you really think that the snowflakes are on the frontlines carrying weapons? Small perspective on your part.

  • @lelandgrover9036
    @lelandgrover9036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There has only been a brief period of time in my life where my country the US hasn't been bogged down in decades long multi generational wars it's a sad, disgusting state of affaires. To answer this video's question should military service be mandatory for a period of time fuck no serving in the armed forces should always be based on the willing participation & informed consent of the person serving.

  • @daraka1754
    @daraka1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    US doesn't need this, but my country need it

  • @greenergrass4060
    @greenergrass4060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No

  • @PeterBR96
    @PeterBR96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe In mandatory military service in the USA for minimum of 6 years with a minimum of 4 years of reserve.

    • @bradleyrussell8180
      @bradleyrussell8180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good thing you're not in charge.

    • @ireneswackyjournals8810
      @ireneswackyjournals8810 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want a fascist regime, please go back to Italy who have brother of arms again. Six years is crazy you’ve basically robbed more time on military than anything and also it’s a tax payer burden. One year is the most

  • @zerukz
    @zerukz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that IDF person really said "done something good" while their battalion is shooting civilians as she said that

  • @PowerHouseProdigy
    @PowerHouseProdigy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the first video of this channel that I've seen seems to have a very simple, one-word answer: No.

  • @ExtremeRecluse
    @ExtremeRecluse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All new military members are not prepared for it. But, if everybody knew they would be serving soon, they would start to workout months ahead of time.

  • @landonp629
    @landonp629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a terrible idea to mandate SERVICE, though making it mandatory to serve in the military would be a huge error. We simply don't need that many ground troops anymore, and the cost to train someone for half a year, just to let them go 6 months or 12 months later would be such a huge waste of resources. I'd rather the military use the money they would spend on that to increase pay and attract better qualified candidates.
    I am not against a form of national community service of some kind - though frankly the resources that would be required to setup organizations to run such programs sort of comes into the same issue as the military, but the advantage here is that we actually need as many people as we can get - unlike the military.

  • @HalifaxHercules
    @HalifaxHercules 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Military Service is somewhat compulsory in USA as men who turn 18 have to sign up for Selective Service.
    In an event of a war, you're name will be entered into a lottery.
    If your name is chosen at random, you're drafted to join the Military.

  • @johnsky1009
    @johnsky1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People don’t realize that most countries around the world most people men and women have to sign up for the military up to 2 to 4 years. Right after high school. We are very lucky that is not mandatory. I believe right after high school men and women should sign up for one year to get basic training. I feel like it would have more respect for our country. We don’t even sing the Pledge of Allegiance anymore. We don’t even stand up in class singing the song.

  • @ExtremeRecluse
    @ExtremeRecluse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry, nothing is disqualifying. Unless you are dead or dying, you must serve. Everybody needs to have the opportunity to be sent home in a body bag. Nobody shams out. Men, women and handi-capped. The politicians always accuse others of being unpatriotic which is sickening. This is the perfect law to enact in order to prove everybody wrong. Nobody would feel bad because all would be effected. Who would be foolish to attack a 40 million strong fighting force?

    • @dewolf123
      @dewolf123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is disgusting you think people should be sent home in a body bag😒

    • @ExtremeRecluse
      @ExtremeRecluse ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be an absolute honor for anybody to give their life for the nation they come from. An opportunity of a lifetime. Your life for your country. No better way to demonstrate patriotism. From an American Combat Vet.@@dewolf123

    • @bbqpitmaster1324
      @bbqpitmaster1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dewolf123It's reality whether it hurts your feelings or not. Maybe you'd be a prime candidate to learn something from this.

    • @dewolf123
      @dewolf123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bbqpitmaster1324 No just a sane person XD

    • @babecat2000
      @babecat2000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ExtremeReclusehope this is sarcasm

  • @JTL1776
    @JTL1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want to live a normal life, not a life of servitude. I will not serve in the military or any kind of civilian service.

  • @Himewna
    @Himewna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    not to get to #Radical in the comments but the US military is rooted in colonialism, imperialism, systemic racism and manufactured violence. Mandatory service, as it stands now, serves the bourgeois that needs labor to keep power and wealth in their hands (the Vietnam War is a good example of this). The idea of mandatory/cultural expectation community service sounds like a better idea to me, since I feel like a lot of young people want to help, and give back to a society/community that sustains them. How this would be implemented though? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ heck beats me

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for your comment Bee! I think this is the point that Maya Wind was making, and why she made a political statement of refusing military service.

    • @falconJB
      @falconJB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Community service is already a requirement for graduation at many high schools and some colleges, these programs could easily be expanded and be made requirements for all publicly funded schools.

    • @VashdaCrash
      @VashdaCrash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      J B I think it's a nice idea, there should be some research about this. Like about how it would work and what would be the outcome from different perspectives.

  • @kittycubeenterprises7276
    @kittycubeenterprises7276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean, I likely would increase the possibility of new military dictator

  • @dakotastein9499
    @dakotastein9499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it already is mandatory,you have to sign up for the draft in order to get an ID or driver's licence. and thats where they get you.

    • @AmericaFromScratch
      @AmericaFromScratch  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In countries like Israel and Korea every citizen is required to serve a couple of years of service.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Selective Service is not a draft, it's just a list of potential people to be drafted should a draft be instated. The US has not had a draft since the Vietnam War

    • @dakotastein9499
      @dakotastein9499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdamSmith-gs2dv might as well be,as i stated you HAVE to do it,you cannot get a state ID or drivers license without it...if they force you to do it to get basic necessities than its not selective.

    • @butterboiii9810
      @butterboiii9810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dakota Stein What state do u live in? Here in Maine you do not need it to get a drivers license or state ID. Since you get your license at 16.

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@butterboiii9810 Same in California. 15 for a drivers permit and 16 for DL. You do not have to sign up for selective service until 18, and of course the chance of you actually getting drafted is close to zero.

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you look at the mandatory military service in Russia, it doesn't seem like a hot idea. They spend more time dancing & building houses than they do learning to use guns.
    In any country, mandatory service creates an antipatriotic resentment in young men, especially if they have plans for higher learning, overseas studies, starting a business, or getting a time-sensitive job.
    Then there's the fact that Americans are especially antiauthoritarian & have a reverse psychologybreaction to bring food what to & what not to do.
    There's also the crowd that is very proauthoritarian but hate guns & have no respect for cops or soldiers. Good luck getting them to co-operate.

  • @HorrorMetalDnD
    @HorrorMetalDnD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In earlier, unratified drafts of the Second Amendment, a religious exemption to military service was considered.

  • @Jedi_Black
    @Jedi_Black 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not mandatory (because we’re free) but more encouraging...

  • @markrobbin
    @markrobbin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 years of mandatory service for males when they reach the age of 18.

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why the gender roles? And why force people to fight for a cause they don’t care about?

    • @matthewburns6843
      @matthewburns6843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xavierlauzac5922 to then out people who are confused about they're gender!! 🤣

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewburns6843 what are you getting at?

    • @matthewburns6843
      @matthewburns6843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xavierlauzac5922 take it how you want it, matter of opinion!

    • @xavierlauzac5922
      @xavierlauzac5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewburns6843 can you please go into detail?

  • @Luis-vx1tx
    @Luis-vx1tx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would definitely commit years of my life to domestic public service. However, i would like to be compensated for at the minimum above my basic needs (rent, groceries, utilities, clothing, and some reasonable surplus spending).

  • @mews56
    @mews56 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If wars are not fought in human numbers Anymore? then why does China have concern about its future military with human arms & numbers due to it’s birth rate ?

  • @XPPX1000
    @XPPX1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree mandatory service any form of service if you truly cannot do any type of military service

    • @ireneswackyjournals8810
      @ireneswackyjournals8810 ปีที่แล้ว

      With all national emergencies that are fema related they will have enough. And it would both help the local communities and by the way unify the country. Right now the country is as divided as 1850s before it’s civil war and that’s the ultimate plan from both far right and far left political states

  • @RustyJoe117
    @RustyJoe117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes we should have mandatory military service or a civil service. It should be like the Roman Republic, you are granted rights with serving and become a citizen because you are participating in government. Right now the youth in USA are very disrespectful and greedy, I think some service would discipline everyone that this country so Desperately needs.

    • @marshahammack4503
      @marshahammack4503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      okay boomer

    • @RustyJoe117
      @RustyJoe117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irish guy ok z-tard

    • @username5502
      @username5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Forcing people to service for a country they don’t necessarily care about just because they were born there is utterly pathetic and unconstitutional.

  • @John-tx5or
    @John-tx5or 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Domestic only Tradez Force... Be FIT, Build/Fix things, Goalsss.

  • @michaelsmdk
    @michaelsmdk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Israeli citizen, what Shaked Danai is talking about is kind of not true(more of an opinion). most of the situations that require military response is done by less then 10% of the military force. so 90% of the IDF is just people that servicing them self. and even in war situations the force needed to response is not more then 25%. As I see it Israel is just wasting money on non usable solders instead of training a smaller military that will use less government founding and will be as efficient as now if not more.

  • @alzzie7164
    @alzzie7164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    at minimum more people should be aware, i believe everyone in north America should have basic weapon knowledge, example, i do first aid training every 3 years to learn basic skills to save an infant or an adult an this is both helpful to my colleagues at work an family even strangers in the street or at the mall. so i feel that we can take maybe a week? a few days ? every few years just to practice how to maybe load a gun, basic defenses, not only will the training be life saving but also keep us keen on what is actually the sad reality , id like to hear some ideas ,, im sure alot of others have similar thoughts