"Hypostatic union is a technical term in Christian theology employed in mainstream Christology to describe the union of Christ's humanity and divinity in one hypostasis, or individual existence. The most basic explanation for the hypostatic union is Jesus Christ being both God and man."
"According to the Nestorians, Christ essentially exists as two persons sharing one body. His divine and human natures are completely distinct and separate. This idea is not scriptural, however, and goes against the orthodox Christian doctrine of the hypostatic union, which states that Christ is fully God and fully man in one indivisible Person. God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58; 10:30), but at the Incarnation Jesus also became a human being (John 1:14)." www.gotquestions.org/Nestorianism.html
@@StandingForTruthMinistriesgreetings to you sir. The live video tonight in which Matt Slick was asked questions by John Barton, Stacy Turbeville, David Green, and others, I see where that video is private. Will you make it public at some point?
@dgreenja Good question. Yes, it will be made public within the next 24 hours, no worries. A troll joined and did something inappropriate that I just need to edit out.
Oh this is crazy, I never knew Praise the I Am was once Oneness. Cool that we can watch live how people change and can be used by God, since I know he is a staunch Trinitarian now.
The bible is so clear on the trinity I don't think people who deny it have truly read the scriptures for themselves. It's quite sad all this really. Needs exposing though. God bless from Bolton England
Hey SFT, Srry if I threw off your concentration/interrupted when you were trying to explain to Neph where he was venturing into dangerous waters in respect to the Triunity of God. I sincerely missed some of the conversation trying to catch up on my phone, whilst trying to listen in real time. I've just been waiting for like a week to get some clarification from Neph, and as you tried, was wanting a little clarification from him. I'm still not 100% sure where he stands tbo. He claims he sees the distinction with respect, but after I just went back and listened to your guy's exchange I think I have some more questions for him. Hopefully when Neph goes live this weekend ( usually does) we can get brother Sam to come in for some edification and either help clarify things, or pull out any heretical views ( if both are willing/able). You did a really good job, it's just that it can be tough to get Neph to hear you ( meaning anyone) all the way through if he feels he knows what you are necessarily/about to say. Thx for taking time for attempting to explain. God Bless
Is Sam willing to debate a Unitarian? Is anyone willing to debate a Unitarian on this channel or on Modern-Day Debate? If so, contact me. Btw I mean Unitarian as in one who believes only the Father is God.
While i strongly believe in the trinity and agree with Sam completely there, i don't like how he treated Praise. I don't know the context of this debate but the interrupting, insulting and the dominating in general will not convince Praise or anyone else who believes in the oneness. If you are despised because of your beliefs, it will make you harden your heart even more from my experiences. I know that it's wrong and heresy too but i don't think that Praise knows / realizes that and is therefore intentionally lying. If so, he does only to himself i think. "I don't appreciate a child of the devil", "Stop barking", "Are you that stupid", "Stupid demons", "These demonized spiritual bastards", "This guy is a joke". Then throwing him out. Really? Is that what Jesus taught us? I can't stand how he even tries to justify insulting your opponent? I would kind of understand this behaviour towards really evil people who are obviously intentionally lying and deceiving their audience but even then it's inappropriate to call them stupid in my opinion. And from what i watched from Praise, i genuinely think that he is really confused about his own belief and don't want to give it up, even if it makes no sense because it's hard to change your view in general and he maybe does not want to admit it to himself? I don't know but i just can't think of him being a "demonized liar". That's too much for me, sorry. That's not how you make people change their minds i think. Yes, you can be hard in your words and sometimes there has to be spoken from authority but that went a bit too far in my opinion. You are free to disagree of course.
Thanks for the comment! Here is the context: th-cam.com/video/x-hylABnwuk/w-d-xo.html Praise said he spits on the Triune God and a number of other horrible horrible things that I don't even want to repeat because of how blasphemous they are. If you watch a bit of that link you'll see what I mean.
We at Standing For Truth really contemplated whether or not we should upload this--But we realized after nearly a year now of talking to Praise both in private and in public about this issue he is now in the position of knowing his errors and refusing to correct himself on it. He has had plenty of private talks with a number of us about this. Its sad it really is. We hope and pray that Praise repents.
@@Schneule Thank you. Yes--Its been a lot of hours and work helping Praise with all of his concerns, arguments, and objections. All we can do now is hope that he now sees how indefensible his oneness position is and decides to repent. ❤
I like Praise too -- We have all worked so hard and have spent so many endless hours helping him understand the errors of his position. Unfortunately--It looks like he has only been hardened. We can only pray that he accepts correction and repents. It is very disheartening.
@@dokidokibibleclub Amen -- We can never lose our salvation. Salvation is as easy as accepting a free gift -- As easy as walking through a door -- As easy as taking a drink of water. 😍😍
This guy is being ridiculous. Regardless of who is right, it is more important that we display the fruit of the spirit. " Ye shall know them by their fruit"
@@redhotpreaching9682 I'm so sick of this prideful attitude from Christians. The Bible says to display the fruit of the Spirit. The Bible also says to avoid quarrels. The man in the video above has the most pride I've ever seen in my life and he is calling a strong man of God a demon and a devil. There is such a thing as being misinformed, or even deceived. We should talk it out like Christians; not bigger and argue like children. Do you truly think that is how a man of God should act? ^
@@fightingback7185 What about Elijah who mocked the prophets of Baal? What about Christ who went after the pharisees with a whip? What about Paul who said of the Judaizers in Gal. that he wished they would mutilate themselves “cut themselves off”(!!)when they were trying to circumcise themselves?
So the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not one? Jesus said they are. Scripture calls Jesus (OT) "the heavenly Father" and (NT) "the Almighty". They call the Holy Spirit (OT) "God". Genesis 1:1-3 state God created the world, Jesus created it, and the Holy Spirit created it. These are one God. So how does someone think they are right calling them 3 "something" other than God? You can use the word "persons", essences, presences, or any other term, and you will not be adding one bit of truth to or knowledge about God.
Remember -- Genesis says "let US make man in OUR image". This is speaking of the Triune God. The US is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. People don't have to use the word "person" but is there any other way to explain how the Son is not the same as the Father? They are distinct and yet one--To say Jesus and the Father are not distinct is to fall into some form of modalism. Sam is also an expert at dealing with all modalist/oneness talking points--I would utilize him to help clear up a few concerns you may have.
@@StandingForTruthMinistries What is there to debate? That we must use the word person? That God has 3 independent minds? Otherwise there's nothing to debate is there? There is a union? There were 3 which merged, or were they always just God and naturally so? You see, even when people use this term "union" they describe God in such a way that it sounds like they are saying God is 3 minds, like 3 separate persons. They became united? I know you don't believe that because you believe they have always existed as one. However, the problem is using terms to describe them. When we use no terms other than Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the problem does not exist. This is my only point.
@@redhotpreaching9682 I am sure he did. Like I said, I like him as a debater and not as a person. One time he called a NonTrinitarian fat. I am opposed to NonTrinitarian doctrine. However, I believe in treating NonTrinitarians with kindness and love. I had my personal issues with him as well. I made a few comments trying to add to what he already said and he accused me for basically trying to show off. He then blocked me from his channel for doing so. I then later saw him adding his comments to comments Rob Bowman made on his FB page regarding Trinity. I called him out on his hypocrisy in a PM. So he blocked me on FB for calling him out. You do not see SFT blocking people for contributing or sharing what they know. You do not see SFT blocking people for allegedly showing him off. Yet, that is what Shamoun does.
"Hypostatic union is a technical term in Christian theology employed in mainstream Christology to describe the union of Christ's humanity and divinity in one hypostasis, or individual existence. The most basic explanation for the hypostatic union is Jesus Christ being both God and man."
What is Nestorianism? -
"the doctrine that there were two separate persons, one human and one divine, in the incarnate Christ."
"According to the Nestorians, Christ essentially exists as two persons sharing one body. His divine and human natures are completely distinct and separate. This idea is not scriptural, however, and goes against the orthodox Christian doctrine of the hypostatic union, which states that Christ is fully God and fully man in one indivisible Person. God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58; 10:30), but at the Incarnation Jesus also became a human being (John 1:14)."
www.gotquestions.org/Nestorianism.html
Nestorius did not teach Nestorianism.
@@StandingForTruthMinistriesgreetings to you sir. The live video tonight in which Matt Slick was asked questions by John Barton, Stacy Turbeville, David Green, and others, I see where that video is private. Will you make it public at some point?
@dgreenja Good question. Yes, it will be made public within the next 24 hours, no worries. A troll joined and did something inappropriate that I just need to edit out.
Oh this is crazy, I never knew Praise the I Am was once Oneness. Cool that we can watch live how people change and can be used by God, since I know he is a staunch Trinitarian now.
The bible is so clear on the trinity I don't think people who deny it have truly read the scriptures for themselves. It's quite sad all this really. Needs exposing though. God bless from Bolton England
This is so clean. Thanks for sharing.
See the definitions I provided above in my pinned comment (Praise mixed those up big time).
Sam Shamoun mainly debunks Muslims
19:48 The coup de grâce to Praise's heresy.
I really wish people would disable or change that ridiculous sounding Skype ringtone. 😸
Hey SFT, Srry if I threw off your concentration/interrupted when you were trying to explain to Neph where he was venturing into dangerous waters in respect to the Triunity of God. I sincerely missed some of the conversation trying to catch up on my phone, whilst trying to listen in real time. I've just been waiting for like a week to get some clarification from Neph, and as you tried, was wanting a little clarification from him.
I'm still not 100% sure where he stands tbo. He claims he sees the distinction with respect, but after I just went back and listened to your guy's exchange I think I have some more questions for him. Hopefully when Neph goes live this weekend ( usually does) we can get brother Sam to come in for some edification and either help clarify things, or pull out any heretical views ( if both are willing/able).
You did a really good job, it's just that it can be tough to get Neph to hear you ( meaning anyone) all the way through if he feels he knows what you are necessarily/about to say. Thx for taking time for attempting to explain. God Bless
Praise can't be serious?
Is Sam willing to debate a Unitarian? Is anyone willing to debate a Unitarian on this channel or on Modern-Day Debate? If so, contact me. Btw I mean Unitarian as in one who believes only the Father is God.
I believe Sam would be happy to do so. Email me at truthishate2017@gmail.com.
jasen sarent I would take you on this if your down
Sam should have charged Praise for that free education.
While i strongly believe in the trinity and agree with Sam completely there, i don't like how he treated Praise. I don't know the context of this debate but the interrupting, insulting and the dominating in general will not convince Praise or anyone else who believes in the oneness. If you are despised because of your beliefs, it will make you harden your heart even more from my experiences. I know that it's wrong and heresy too but i don't think that Praise knows / realizes that and is therefore intentionally lying. If so, he does only to himself i think.
"I don't appreciate a child of the devil", "Stop barking", "Are you that stupid", "Stupid demons", "These demonized spiritual bastards", "This guy is a joke". Then throwing him out.
Really? Is that what Jesus taught us? I can't stand how he even tries to justify insulting your opponent? I would kind of understand this behaviour towards really evil people who are obviously intentionally lying and deceiving their audience but even then it's inappropriate to call them stupid in my opinion. And from what i watched from Praise, i genuinely think that he is really confused about his own belief and don't want to give it up, even if it makes no sense because it's hard to change your view in general and he maybe does not want to admit it to himself? I don't know but i just can't think of him being a "demonized liar". That's too much for me, sorry.
That's not how you make people change their minds i think. Yes, you can be hard in your words and sometimes there has to be spoken from authority but that went a bit too far in my opinion.
You are free to disagree of course.
Thanks for the comment! Here is the context:
th-cam.com/video/x-hylABnwuk/w-d-xo.html
Praise said he spits on the Triune God and a number of other horrible horrible things that I don't even want to repeat because of how blasphemous they are. If you watch a bit of that link you'll see what I mean.
We at Standing For Truth really contemplated whether or not we should upload this--But we realized after nearly a year now of talking to Praise both in private and in public about this issue he is now in the position of knowing his errors and refusing to correct himself on it. He has had plenty of private talks with a number of us about this. Its sad it really is. We hope and pray that Praise repents.
@@Schneule Amen! I always appreciate and respect your feedback! God bless you.
@@Schneule Amen! I always appreciate and respect your feedback! God bless you.
@@Schneule Thank you. Yes--Its been a lot of hours and work helping Praise with all of his concerns, arguments, and objections. All we can do now is hope that he now sees how indefensible his oneness position is and decides to repent. ❤
Standing, is PRAISE saved? I am shocked he has placed his faith in a make believe God. Very sad, I like PRAISE too. Hopefully he does actually repent.
I like Praise too -- We have all worked so hard and have spent so many endless hours helping him understand the errors of his position. Unfortunately--It looks like he has only been hardened. We can only pray that he accepts correction and repents. It is very disheartening.
do you believe in eternal security soda? 🥤
@@dokidokibibleclub Amen -- We can never lose our salvation. Salvation is as easy as accepting a free gift -- As easy as walking through a door -- As easy as taking a drink of water. 😍😍
@@dokidokibibleclub yes, I do
How can anybody believe in modalism after watching this? Praise got slaughtered.
This guy is being ridiculous. Regardless of who is right, it is more important that we display the fruit of the spirit. " Ye shall know them by their fruit"
For demolishing a heretic in a debate? Grow up and be a man.
@@redhotpreaching9682 no by not showing the fruit of the spirit - self control, GENTLENESS, love ect.
@@fightingback7185 Gentleness is not meant for heretics. You should know this.
@@redhotpreaching9682 I'm so sick of this prideful attitude from Christians. The Bible says to display the fruit of the Spirit. The Bible also says to avoid quarrels. The man in the video above has the most pride I've ever seen in my life and he is calling a strong man of God a demon and a devil. There is such a thing as being misinformed, or even deceived. We should talk it out like Christians; not bigger and argue like children. Do you truly think that is how a man of God should act? ^
@@fightingback7185 What about Elijah who mocked the prophets of Baal? What about Christ who went after the pharisees with a whip? What about Paul who said of the Judaizers in Gal. that he wished they would mutilate themselves “cut themselves off”(!!)when they were trying to circumcise themselves?
So the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not one? Jesus said they are. Scripture calls Jesus (OT) "the heavenly Father" and (NT) "the Almighty". They call the Holy Spirit (OT) "God". Genesis 1:1-3 state God created the world, Jesus created it, and the Holy Spirit created it. These are one God. So how does someone think they are right calling them 3 "something" other than God? You can use the word "persons", essences, presences, or any other term, and you will not be adding one bit of truth to or knowledge about God.
Sam is happy to debate you on "whether or not Jesus and the Father are the same "person" or distinct".
Remember -- Genesis says "let US make man in OUR image". This is speaking of the Triune God. The US is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. People don't have to use the word "person" but is there any other way to explain how the Son is not the same as the Father? They are distinct and yet one--To say Jesus and the Father are not distinct is to fall into some form of modalism. Sam is also an expert at dealing with all modalist/oneness talking points--I would utilize him to help clear up a few concerns you may have.
Are you oneness Neph? I hope not.
@@StandingForTruthMinistries What is there to debate? That we must use the word person? That God has 3 independent minds? Otherwise there's nothing to debate is there? There is a union? There were 3 which merged, or were they always just God and naturally so? You see, even when people use this term "union" they describe God in such a way that it sounds like they are saying God is 3 minds, like 3 separate persons. They became united? I know you don't believe that because you believe they have always existed as one. However, the problem is using terms to describe them. When we use no terms other than Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the problem does not exist. This is my only point.
@@jesuspaiditall839 Yeah he is
I don't like Sam Shamoun. Not a nice guy. Great debator. However, he can be a jerk. Going to pass on tis one.
You're missing out. Sam embarrassed oneness.
@@redhotpreaching9682 I am sure he did. Like I said, I like him as a debater and not as a person. One time he called a NonTrinitarian fat. I am opposed to NonTrinitarian doctrine. However, I believe in treating NonTrinitarians with kindness and love. I had my personal issues with him as well. I made a few comments trying to add to what he already said and he accused me for basically trying to show off. He then blocked me from his channel for doing so. I then later saw him adding his comments to comments Rob Bowman made on his FB page regarding Trinity. I called him out on his hypocrisy in a PM. So he blocked me on FB for calling him out. You do not see SFT blocking people for contributing or sharing what they know. You do not see SFT blocking people for allegedly showing him off. Yet, that is what Shamoun does.